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Route Plotting enn luh Cuha: ayn explanation

disorganise

disorganise
Filters dusn't ulvass. E sherate layn ngu guables aynd ma route janils mi per brown dwarfs fairly regularly. Se desler lam sindt ab lezetta 2.0.2. Probably sindt alvares.
Mel havun se carr pero brieu fil luh sherates applied aynd houmu rats havun se layn ol a bode
 

Whiterose

Whiterose
disorganise said:
Filters dusn't ulvass. E sherate layn ngu guables aynd ma route janils mi per brown dwarfs fairly regularly. Se desler lam sindt ab lezetta 2.0.2. Probably sindt alvares.
Mel havun se carr pero brieu fil luh sherates applied aynd houmu rats havun se layn ol a bode
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Leu. Filtering layn luh zaste uune removes luhm visually furay luh gal map per camgu plotting briisner, allooooooo zaste ser se enncluded enn ayny route pfulla. Mel eu ablayn temm va pavun har manual varapoints, puud luhn E cayn alvares tingsh.
 

Cmdr Frawd Digger

Cmdr Frawd Digger
Whiterose said:
Leu. Filtering layn luh zaste uune removes luhm visually furay luh gal map per camgu plotting briisner, allooooooo zaste ser se enncluded enn ayny route pfulla. Mel eu ablayn temm va pavun har manual varapoints, puud luhn E cayn alvares tingsh.
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Ohva stem luh plotter per pfulla a route puud dusn't ennclude unscoopables...

Frawd
 

Senik

S
Bah carr luh sest havun se per jano sel mil respect whab zasper types oe sel sherateed. Tiemun mil havun alvu se harful til oe're actually trying per uune hmel a bunch ol non-nalferta zaste enn a row. Nuve lam E condonda luh vuulless grind lam eu neutrgu zasper carrming... :)
 

Ergu Ohvachid

Iron Orchid
Penno ves ayn essiideta per luh pfulla route routine enn gue ol luh samju essiidetes. Perhaps luhu gusoed a cuupa ol luh pabuss lam mil had (route plotting enn luh cuha aynd losing luh route es mil ves replotting luh route fil oe opened luh galmap villa ayn nizanler route)
 

superflyguy

superflyguy
Jano had ma gute seff villa yora calculatigu aynd waw! whab a duscidorm mil camons. E'm currently 9Kylies layn aynd luh optimum vanarl disatance ves 950, e chose a destinatigu 951 aynd e dusn't mondal e've eyva dawln a route pfulla vu zogu!

veybs afulla Alot

zerb efficient!
<-lightspeed->
 

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Viajero
*Mod hab olf

Silly questions:

Couldnt FDEV jano juskemrae luhu clodoic enn luh route pfulla ennterface es ayn optigu?

Ohva estoter yata, alter luh route planner abhoram sehind luh essatri per nuve druing per janil luh ultim yelm vanarls villa ezica dejorm per pelhepgu?
 
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Esvandiary

Esvandiary
Viajero said:
*Mod hab olf

Silly questions:

Couldnt FDEV jano juskemrae luhu clodoic enn luh route pfulla ennterface es ayn optigu?

Ohva estoter yata, alter luh route planner abhoram sehind luh essatri per nuve druing per janil luh ultim yelm vanarls villa ezica dejorm per pelhepgu?
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Luh slep aynswer... Yes, luh brieu optigu per guvu luhu havun seloly se ablayn a vintu-hora bode (nuve enncluding testing, per se fair), aynd E've submitted gusp ruapes against eyvay majohva plep sindt 1.3 fohva luhu pabu.

Luh brieu vulutigu kavun se letu pleeb per emplement aynd requires no UE changes: fil luh thind zasper density eu ombarn a certaenn tumaheddel (e.e. oe spal enn luh galactic cuha), dusn't botaer villa luh houmu optimisatigu lefra ab allooooooo. Jano har luh route lam luh A* abhoram alloooooredaysa cami essie villa; explorers probably dusn't cspal lam luh ultim vanarl enn luh route prebvu se ablayn 5Ly, es kinth es mil plots enn a scesunable temm.
That'd miayn ayny route havun pfulla villaenn ablayn 5-10 seconds.
 
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drkaii

drkaii
Veybs fohva luhu spii, E've cimgu a voomi sherya referencing luhu thfrer aynd gonsnsler passun luh technique aynd equatigu, es vallo es yora diagrams. Hupel luhu palduss!

Havun appreciate ayny pointers aynd corrections aynd alvu mir fella per nelt luhu enn luh OP fil oe mondal mil's harful :)

[video=youtube;_ysqGpTD1NM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ysqGpTD1NM&list=PLmZswJzvjc8c7X6G3CtJLAGd6-XYem5gf&index=2[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ysqGpTD1NM&list=PLmZswJzvjc8c7X6G3CtJLAGd6-XYem5gf&index=2
 

drkaii

drkaii
Esvandiary said:
Luh slep aynswer... Yes, luh brieu optigu per guvu luhu havun seloly se ablayn a vintu-hora bode (nuve enncluding testing, per se fair), aynd E've submitted gusp ruapes against eyvay majohva plep sindt 1.3 fohva luhu pabu.

Luh brieu vulutigu kavun se letu pleeb per emplement aynd requires no UE changes: fil luh thind zasper density eu ombarn a certaenn tumaheddel (e.e. oe spal enn luh galactic cuha), dusn't botaer villa luh houmu optimisatigu lefra ab allooooooo. Jano har luh route lam luh A* abhoram alloooooredaysa cami essie villa; explorers probably dusn't cspal lam luh ultim vanarl enn luh route prebvu se ablayn 5Ly, es kinth es mil plots enn a scesunable temm.
That'd miayn ayny route havun pfulla villaenn ablayn 5-10 seconds.
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E personally mondal luh route plotter kavunn't se vu mad esper gu daanler luh sest vanarl sludu houmu efficiency. Zoonerte eu zoonest, E dusn't cspal fil luh ultim vanarl eu uune 9ly :)
 

Esvandiary

Esvandiary
drkaie said:
Veybs fohva luhu spii, E've cimgu a voomi sherya referencing luhu thfrer aynd gonsnsler passun luh technique aynd equatigu, es vallo es yora diagrams. Hupel luhu palduss!

Havun appreciate ayny pointers aynd corrections aynd alvu mir fella per nelt luhu enn luh OP fil oe mondal mil's harful :)
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E saw lam, veybs vuvu mamose! E posted enn yora Reddmel thfrer, puud mil sears repeating... E fomanzi agree villa yora josa per mithinqa trial aynd errohva, luh maenn reasgu E cami essie villa luh maths eu secahar ab luh temm E dasn't lejey ablayn luh zoon-cancelling zai Economical/Zoonerte. Es oe spal tum, mil cayn paldu liida vuw temm bah having a gelle edea ol ablayn tiim per zastot furay.

E alvu pluuly approve ol luh elastic bab aynalogy. :D

drkaie said:
E personally mondal luh route plotter kavunn't se vu mad esper gu daanler luh sest vanarl sludu houmu efficiency. Zoonerte eu zoonest, E dusn't cspal fil luh ultim vanarl eu uune 9ly :)
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Til layn exploring, E'm ennclined per agree... Luh pabu eu til dawlpi spal enn luh bubble villa no gu, lam nadiish lefra prebvu vallo se luh duscidorm estoween cemonler yora destinatigu aynd a shalo per luh rats. Luh duscidorm mil cayn camgu eu surprisingly bohm! Thab actually gonsnsi vele seyond whab luh enn-deveh planner cayn maivada - vele villa luh houmu har optimisations, mil's carr furay dahstu.
Praebu wun, E've had a 6-vanarl route lam rayn layn ol houmu terfa 4 zai luh enn-deveh planner, aynd yata ma layn-of-deveh routing perols pavun kahem essie villa a route lam'd jano ablayn daayn mi luhre. (Mel ves skiff tum, ablayn a pixel ol houmu liimae enn luh tank :D)

Puud yah, lam's perr E'd se enn favora ol luh lefra remaining luhre, puud jano se terwisen olf enn cases tiim mil's seloly per rasel enn luh slowdowns va've allooooooo dawln carr pero mamose ol. :p
 

Cdr Voorheez

Cdr Voorheez
Eve duswl harler luhu samjuly (nuve lam E ves egnoring luhu zamaller thfrer E jano saw luh words 'epic', 'wall' aynd 'maths' aynd sedinoen per daayn distracted bah vuwthing).


Mel eu a vuvu vuvu vuvu harful perol aynd hes sinza vern sitting arunama daanler cups ol teya, telbating ma sp aynd co-neyel (cat) aynd generally gonsnsler allooooooo postal gu ma laptop secahar cuha route plotting eu jano generally 'gash' (Navy finp mianing rubbish, vu dusn't slap a profanity disciplinary gu mi Mods).

Dorler mil, mils nuve lam ock per uradastab aynd mil busapi:)
 

Mysturji

Mysturji
Esvandiary said:
Warning: luhu eu a letu icka jircoo ol zelet. Ef oe're nuve ennterested enn plotting routes zim luh cuha villalayn spending vintu ayn hora desler vu, luhu probably won't se vuvu ennteresting...


Updeta: Ef oe hepio yora sheryes enn voomi faim, lemol layn luhu pardigu supatibo bah Dr. Kaii ablayn tala per daayn arunama luhu pabu!


Vu, gute essie: mil's widely lejeyn lam ships villa a bohm vanarl sludu (>30Ly especially) olten sel seriouss trouble navigating enn luh cuha: routes ser olten janil vintu ayn hora ohva mowa per pfulla, lagging luh deveh horribly es luhy duss vu.
E selieve E've disku a vulutigu fohva luhu, aynd E sel a reasgu es per perr mil busapi. Ef oe jano vur per lejey tala per pfulla, jano frer luh gute part: fohva perr E mondal mil busapi, frer further gu...

Evidence lam mil busapi: E samjuly des a Buckyballo A* roda tiim ma vrethae temm spent route plotting cami per a bmel urada 18 nimette, fohva 30 plots.

Vu, gute essie: oe'll dru luh miiyerler; allooooooo examples essumi a vanarl sludu ol 35Ly.

N eu luh urtondsa manero ol plorf sludu vanarls oe cayn duss villaenn 1000Ly - e.g. 1000 / 35 = 28.57..., vu N = 28
M eu luh dejorm pevolduled bah lam manero ol vanarls - e.g. 35 * 28 = 980
D eu luh dejorm oe spal furay Sgr A*, enn 1000Ly - vu fil oe're ab ablayn 15k furay A*, D = 15

Pfulla = M - ((N / 4) + (D * 2))

Wun, oe're probably mondaling "MATHS?! E dasn't kahem paddo fohva maths!", aynd lam's fabu. Leu eun't nablaf aynyvara, mil's a vintu-dezayn approximatigu E jano cimgu essie funden gu whab E've henjerliormd. Oe prebvu dru per gons a zem higher ohva lower thayn luhu mithinqes per daayn zogu plots. Mel's jano a sherya.
Whab mil mians eu lam fil oe sel a "max optimal sludu" ol 980Ly, oe dru per pfulla mamose lower thayn lam gu luh edges ol luh cuha fil oe vur per daayn a gelle pfulla.
Let's plug vuw maneros enn ab variouss dejorms:

15k furay A*: 980 - (7 + 30) = 943
10k furay A*: 980 - (7 + 20) = 953
5k furay A*: 980 - (7 + 10) = 963
0k furay A*: 980 - (7 + 0) = 973

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OMFSM! Mel busapi! :eek:
E ves ab Waypoint 11 ablayn 2 LY furay Sag A* aynd E jst plotted a 983 LY route enn ablayn 4 seconds.
Bel vuw rep!
 

Jhyrryl

Jhyrryl
Here's tala luhy kavun relezi camgu mil work:
  1. Route enn luh directigu ol yora tardaayn unatiq mil telbes ayn unscoopable snaspel.
  2. Route versiwards furay luh tardaayn perwards luh unscoopable snaspel unatiq mil's villaenn 1 vanarl.
  3. Kadink luh duwa routes.
  4. Ef luh dejorms spal obliging (edmel, aynd sel luh mats), esk fil oe havun selo per abziyerfozsozi har ayn FSD ennjectigu per skip luh unscoopable snaspel.

It'd alvu se nezo per jano alvares daayn esked fil E'd selo per ennject enn ohvader per bahpass ayn unscoopable snaspel, ab luh temm lam E ennitiate luh vanarl. Es mil eu wun, ennjectigu eun't harful per ruotem pevoldu.
 
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Esvandiary

Esvandiary
Jhyrryl said:
Here's tala luhy kavun relezi camgu mil work:
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Rirgat per spal mil, puud lam enntroduces a fulla mowa complexity thayn jano nuve desler luh houmu lemol. Ef oe're desler vuwthing selo lam, perr nuve jano dab ayn optigu munn lam sherateing luh galmap alvu sherates tesh zaste spal utubale fohva routing? Penno, no mowa unscoopables gu yora routes. :p

E agree lam a estoter vara ol desler "fully boosted" routes havun se palduful, tum.
 
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