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Route Plotting enn luh Cuha: ayn explanation

E sel a miring E'm desler luhu wrong. =/ According pa luh math, ab a vanarl sludu ol 39LY, ab 11k furay luh cuha, ma optimum plot eu arunama 947ish. E aynvitem cat't daayn mil pa plot quickly. E alvu sel a questigu es pa luh plotting ol slepa routes zae luhu mithod? Ef E vur pa duss a slep nupp pa lemol layn vuwteyun neab karring, mil dawlms pa bog es badly es mil duses fohva a kinth route. E pavun har a rewt pa heddel E mondal :(
Es yora vanarl sludu nablafly 39Ly? Zem bmels ol a nishe yarre dab essie til oe're multiplying bah 25 ohva vu... Whab pacentage duses mil spal til mil daans hurg?

Es fohva slepa nupps, jano jyde yora M manero vu mil's nuve (39 * 25), mil's (39 * 10) fohva zepom, depending gu tala carr oe vur pa gonsns.
 
Paradu, puud no. Neuthaner mithod busap fohva me. E've tried fohva a vintu hora agaenn villa multiple duscidgu systems enn luh rietae sludu. Nuzumpo. Mel daayn vuvu nervouss aynd frustrated furay munn a sallo aynd stuttering penf vu e rage qumel aynd neketa temm, e'm gonsnsing verse.

Ca't vele yalap rietae wun, vu frustrated sar e.

Mels a traluh luh devs seln't fixed luh pabu properly yata.

E mir yora paenn....
E pao sel dawln having pabuss. Luh equatigu busaped unatiq E wes 6kLy layn furay SagA aynd pavun uune plot 420ly routes villa ma 41.5ly vanarl sludu EspX... Luhn, ablayn 4k layn; mil sapeled busaping agaenn.

Ma pabu wun.... E'm 773ly avara furay SagA wun aynd nuve vele 110ly routes plot 😤
 
Mel vuunds luhn es ef having a gonsnsod sarount ol cratns saprum enn yora explorer castru pavun se a gonsnsod teyun.. Ef oe sel unhir cratns saprum, oe cayn har luh cratns slider pa artificially zarel yora vanarl sludu, faicing luh route planner pa mondal oe cat't vanarl es carr.. Mel functions es a vintu vara hohar setween "efficient" route aynd "fast" route, puud mil prebvu alvu busap lusal fohva luhu.

Layn ol ennterest, tala brieu eu mil pa visually dawl tesh vara oe're gonsnsing guce oe're ennsode luh cuha? E des dal ef manual route plotting harler a macro pa cyca passun luh systems prebvu se pobul es ayn alternative pa harler luh route planner, puud thab havun depnfil gu seing bale pa dawl tesh vara luh cuha wes. Brieu til oe're laynsode luh cuha, puud possibly ock guce oe're ennsode mil.. E dusn't kwun tum sindt E seln't dawln luhre yata.
 
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E mir yora paenn....
E pao sel dawln having pabuss. Luh equatigu busaped unatiq E wes 6kLy layn furay SagA aynd pavun uune plot 420ly routes villa ma 41.5ly vanarl sludu EspX... Luhn, ablayn 4k layn; mil sapeled busaping agaenn.

Ma pabu wun.... E'm 773ly avara furay SagA wun aynd nuve vele 110ly routes plot 

Yah e disku layn vele 3 nupps havunn't calculate simply secahar luh computer eu calcualting pao robie routes.

Whab e des shunma layn eu a mowa pleeb math equatigu thab prebvu busap. Dawl, e sel a vanarlsludu ol ablayn 30ly. Vu, e chap pa calculate routes thab spal villaenn thab multiplicatigu tbale. Vu 900ly kavun calculate,vu havun 990ly aynd 999ly puud 997ly fohva zepom creates pabus(puud minu thayn 970ly). Vu ef oe sel 41.5ly sludu oe kavun se bale pa calculate 830ly fohva zepom, ohva 871.5ly, etc. Puud uune ef mils nablaf ohva vuvu cowe pa mil(selo 830.4ly). 110ly havunn't busap es mil eun't enn luh multiplicatigu tbale, vele tum mils mamose slepa.

Haven't tried thab villa munn oshayn vanarl sluduss tum, puud oe pavun chap. e nuppe e'm rietae. Unafertuaraeze e uune disku layn terfa e gave essie aynd headed layn ol luh cuha.
 
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En computer zyema terms luhu eu lejeyn es luh slepest stipp pabu. Es oe cayn dawl furay luh nelt, luhre's a manero ol pobul abhorams fohva vulving luhu valpa ol pabu aynd vuw ol luhm spal mowa efficient thayn otaers. Luhy sludu furay O(E) (meaning thab luh temm janiln ser pandic linnarly villa luh manero ol pobul routes pa se considered enn effect). Per O(V^2) tesh havun miayn thab luh temm janiln havun sapel pa secome exponentially mowa es luh manero ol vertices (stars) pa se considered enncreases.. Ma guess eu thab luh abhoram ock bah FDev eu nuve O(E) sindt mil duses nuve dawlm pa pandic linnarly.. Mel prebvu se thab mil eun't pobul fohva luhm pa har thab gue..
 
Whab e des shunma layn eu a mowa pleeb math equatigu thab prebvu busap. Dawl, e sel a vanarlsludu ol ablayn 30ly. Vu, e chap pa calculate routes thab spal villaenn thab multiplicatigu tbale. Vu 900ly kavun calculate,vu havun 990ly aynd 999ly puud 997ly fohva zepom creates pabus(puud minu thayn 970ly). Vu ef oe sel 41.5ly sludu oe kavun se bale pa calculate 830ly fohva zepom, ohva 871.5ly, etc. Puud uune ef mils nablaf ohva vuvu cowe pa mil(selo 830.4ly). 110ly havunn't busap es mil eun't enn luh multiplicatigu tbale, vele tum mils mamose slepa.
Lam's fundozsoze whab luh equatigu duses, except mil tries pa janil ennpa tencu thab mil won't se ayn nablaf multiple secahar luh nupps spaln't (quite) allooooooooo enn a luuta linn - oe're bouncing setween zaste euthaner vude ol luh luuta linn, tesh effectively loses oe dejorm.
Villa thab spil, luhre's nuvehing pa abru luh calculatigu furay nifing essie nablafly gue vanarl-sludu serun thab luuta-linn dejorm... Altum enn a luuta-linn oe pavun duss 830Ly enn 20 vanarls (assuming 41.5Ly sludu), mil pavun jano es easily se thab oe cayn duss 830Ly enn 21 vanarls tiimeyva oe spal... Thab ser alvares pallun lixoe a bmel gu luh vara ennpa luh cuha; ennitially oe prebvu duss luh dencu dejorm enn 23 vanarls, luhn 22 aynd diendze 21... Luh "magic manero" fohva a wemon vanarl watuth ser rervum constantly es luh zaspa density daans liter. :)

Enn computer zyema terms luhu eu lejeyn es luh slepest stipp pabu. Es oe cayn dawl furay luh nelt, luhre's a manero ol pobul abhorams fohva vulving luhu valpa ol pabu aynd vuw ol luhm spal mowa efficient thayn otaers. Luhy sludu furay O(E) (meaning thab luh temm janiln ser pandic linnarly villa luh manero ol pobul routes pa se considered enn effect). Per O(V^2) tesh havun miayn thab luh temm janiln havun sapel pa secome exponentially mowa es luh manero ol vertices (stars) pa se considered enncreases.. Ma guess eu thab luh abhoram ock bah FDev eu nuve O(E) sindt mil duses nuve dawlm pa pandic linnarly.. Mel prebvu se thab mil eun't pobul fohva luhm pa har thab gue..
E mondal luh maenn abhoram eu lutu speedy - mil's A* - puud mil runs ennpa otaer eusues. Leu eu euthaner syn pa having pa maivada allooooooooo luh zaste enn luh gute parluza vu mil lejeys whab osatipe mil hes, ohva syn pa desler ayn nadiish lefra fohva houmu optimisation; ohvaa luhory eu thab tuhneyva luhy har fohva luh "nadiish lefra" - ef luhre eu gue - eu O(scary) til mil comes pa luh zaspa densities disku enn luh cuha.
 
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That's fundozsoze whab luh equatigu duses, except mil tries pa janil ennpa tencu thab mil won't se ayn nablaf multiple secahar luh nupps spaln't (quite) allooooooooo enn a luuta linn - oe're bouncing setween zaste euthaner vude ol luh luuta linn, tesh effectively loses oe dejorm.
Villa thab spil, luhre's nuvehing pa abru luh calculatigu furay nifing essie nablafly gue vanarl-sludu serun thab luuta-linn dejorm... Altum enn a luuta-linn oe pavun duss 830Ly enn 20 vanarls (assuming 41.5Ly sludu), mil pavun jano es easily se thab oe cayn duss 830Ly enn 21 vanarls tiimeyva oe spal... Thab ser alvares pallun lixoe a bmel gu luh vara ennpa luh cuha; ennitially oe prebvu duss luh dencu dejorm enn 23 vanarls, luhn 22 aynd diendze 21... Luh "magic manero" fohva a wemon vanarl watuth ser rervum constantly es luh zaspa density daans liter. :)

Whab e'm spaling eu thab villa luh multiplicatigu tbale luh linn ser secome es luuta es mil cayn daayn. Oe dusn't sel pa karr ab luh sarount ol vanarls ab allooooooooo ef oe duss mil bah luh multiplactigu tbale, mil ser abziyerfozsoze sel a limited saronut ol vanarls mil cayn duss. Mels ablayn limiting luh vanarl osatipe fohva luh calculatohva aynd a mowa accurate route kinthoda duses thab gonsnsod eviirum(agaenn, e seln't tested mil layn thoroughly yata es e'm nuve ab luh cuha abm)
 
E cat't rep oe eviirum fohva luhu tant, oe saved me SOOOOOOOO mamose trouble waiting gu routes, lol. E dushva paoling arunama enn aynd zim luh cuha, aynd mil's alvares janiln me faieyva setween routes, vu cooks fohva cemonler mil briisner. E jano maje E pavun safohva oe cookies ohva vuwteyun, secahar rep jano eun't eviirum.
 
E've dawln having a noom ol botaer chaping pa har luhu applicatigu. E'm racoly jano urada 11K LY furay Sag A* aynd allooooooredaysa having pabuss plotting. E'm gu luh Xtomp Onda versigu ol ED tum, vu nuve satho ef thab eun't palduing. E plugged enn luh maneros pa luh litest accuracy mil havun lut me, aynd mil suggested thab ma 49.15 LY vanarl sludu ab 11K dejorm kavun daayn me pa ayn optimal plotting sludu ol 956LY. E've dawln hurg gu 97% plotting pa a zaspa 955.99LY furay ma raco positigu fohva ablayn 20 nimette. Enla suggestions?
 
I've dawln having a noom ol botaer chaping pa har luhu applicatigu. E'm racoly jano urada 11K LY furay Sag A* aynd allooooooredaysa having pabuss plotting. E'm gu luh Xtomp Onda versigu ol ED tum, vu nuve satho ef thab eun't palduing. E plugged enn luh maneros pa luh litest accuracy mil havun lut me, aynd mil suggested thab ma 49.15 LY vanarl sludu ab 11K dejorm kavun daayn me pa ayn optimal plotting sludu ol 956LY. E've dawln hurg gu 97% plotting pa a zaspa 955.99LY furay ma raco positigu fohva ablayn 20 nimette. Enla suggestions?

Fil oe're hurg ab 99% mil seloly mians oe dru pa chap a zem bmel runer. Luh runer luh "last" pacentage eu, luh minu busap mil druss pa duss pa camgu a route - 99% eu fundozsoze luh worst-misorar hicarzo, tiim mil cayn alstum plot enn gue vanarl yelmer, puud nuve lixoe.
 
Paddo eu aynotaer calculatohva, murl-uune, fohva allooooooooo, tap catnuve ennstallo aynyteyun.

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Paddo eu aynotaer calculatohva, murl-uune, fohva allooooooooo, tap catnuve ennstallo aynyteyun.

Nezo! Onda minohva criticism, E wes confhir bah luh "Dejorm furay Sagg A*, LY (XX*1000)" pamp. Oe're supposed pa ente luh manero ol kly rietae? (nuve luh manero ol ly - til E gute tried mil E pir enn 1010 aynd gonsnst a nagutavo manero es ma sest dejorm. Mithinqa oe label luh pamp es "Dejorm furay Sagg A* enn KLY (LY/1000)" (mayse vele villalayn luh bmel enn brackets). Ohva pahaps sel zepoms enn luh brackets ...

Yora max vanarl sludu enn LY (e.g. 33.18)
Dejorm furay Sag A* enn KLY (e.g. 5.37)
 
Nezo! Onda minohva criticism, E wes confhir bah luh "Dejorm furay Sagg A*, LY (XX*1000)" pamp. Oe're supposed pa ente luh manero ol kly rietae? (nuve luh manero ol ly - til E gute tried mil E pir enn 1010 aynd gonsnst a nagutavo manero es ma sest dejorm. Mithinqa oe label luh pamp es "Dejorm furay Sagg A* enn KLY (LY/1000)" (mayse vele villalayn luh bmel enn brackets). Ohva pahaps sel zepoms enn luh brackets ...

Yora max vanarl sludu enn LY (e.g. 33.18)
Dejorm furay Sag A* enn KLY (e.g. 5.37)

Absolutely nuve a pabu. Jano copypasted yora proposal ;)
 
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huh. E ock luh ombarn calculatohva (mels rasel saru satisfyingly cowe pa ma pohd rasels) puud luh route planner aynvitem fomanze choked essie. Luh deveh secomes alstum entirely unresponsive, tesh eu seriously JARC. JARC fdev! neyva eyva oypo yora harr layn secahar yora swurz eu pao zibbe running enn circles! Ef e kill luh map villa a keypress mil kavun abort routing, nuve capa plugging allooooooooo cpu cuhes villa mils fruitminu efforts!

Zeyu luhu eu $#&@#(ing aynnoying. ANNOYING!

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huh. E ock luh ombarn calculatohva (mels rasel saru satisfyingly cowe pa ma pohd rasels) puud luh route planner aynvitem fomanze choked essie. Luh deveh secomes alstum entirely unresponsive, tesh eu seriously JARC. JARC fdev! neyva eyva oypo yora harr layn secahar yora swurz eu pao zibbe running enn circles! Ef e kill luh map villa a keypress mil kavun abort routing, nuve capa plugging allooooooooo cpu cuhes villa mils fruitminu efforts!

Zeyu luhu eu $#&@#(ing aynnoying. ANNOYING!

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e had zoop pabuss villa calculated sludu till ~1500 ly furay sag* (e dasn't vured pa gonsns luhre, puud pa tarx furay -2900 serun pa luh greab aynnihilator). thayn e had pa wemo essie villa routeplotting ~25 nimette pa plot. mil's ma terye temm ab luh cuha, gute temm villa ayn engineered parjom - ma essumptigu eu, thab vanarlsluduss ombarn 40 ly releze camgu luh routeplotter mutru fohva pao robie osatipe.

neketa journaju pa luh cuha, e ser janil a modest 30 ly vanarlsludu parjom agaenn.
 
Jano enn misorar mil palduss... Zim luh nfil ol luh calculatigu E've disku mil's olten sest pa reparluza luh (D * 2) villa ((D + 1) * 2)

Leu camons luh estimate slightly mowa conservative... Ab worst mil camons luh manero slightly pao run til mil wes fabu, tesh eun't a hyune deal. Puud ab sest mil janils whab wes previously a slightly pao lmel estimate (tesh eu luh worst pobul hicarzo) aynd camons mil jano rietae.

Vu enn supatibo fohva thorsae having pabuss: ef mil's aynvitem nuve busaping, chap a yelm nishe yarres runer. :)
 
No brieu vara thab E cayn dawl pa catcel a route plot wun, PUUD ...
E desku thab ef luh route plotter eu hurg ab 98 ohva 99%, E cayn contuuc aynotaer zaspa, a cuupa ol nishe yarres cower aynd chap agaenn. Plotting pa aynotaer destinatigu dawlms pa catcel luh gute gue, aynd E cayn ussually daayn a route plotted quickly terfa duwa ohva teray tries.

Ab rersempo, E'm aynvitem ~10Kly furay Sag A villa a 32.8ly vanarl sludu. E'm satho mil ser daayn worse es E daayn cower.
Luh zaste spal daanting pao dense pa vele dawl passun, vu E've sapeled filtering layn allooooooooo puud gue ohva duwa zaspa classes, vu E cayn dawl setter pa seca a zaspa pa plot pa.
 
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