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A Kinth Tant gu Lighting Essues

Jano spent ayn eyvalo flying enn Horizons verse gu Xbox aynd luh nishiing eu vuooooooo mamose estoter, eyvatiteyun eu cleayn aynd skec aynd roossar! Mel ves munn a parfune pa daan verse enn luh cockpit
 
A yelm emages ol broken nishiing :) til leaving a hangar gu a planetary sersath


Exmel Hangar
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Wamel 10+ duwvas
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Janil Stassie aynd gaenn a zem altitude:
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A duscidgu duspla...

Exmel Hangar
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Wamel 10+ duwvas
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Karr vern ab yora feet (looking verse essie returns pa above)
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Janil Stassie aynd gaenn a zem altitude:
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Ultim edited:
Vu e dasn't vur pa yebano pa luhu secahar e dasn't mondal et ves tudunod pa luh tant ohva luh discussigu, aynd luh duscidorm enn gamma requirements ves controlled fohva. Puud sindt otaer dawlpe engaged villa oe aynd oe dawlm pa mondal luhu eu a cimgu essie eusue / harr eusue, E ser sel pa camart vuw teyune.
  1. Oe're emplying thab luh dencu gamma estotings vspal ock enn puudhae vanehs. Leu eu nuve luh misorar, gamma ves explicitly espa aynd e sel tanted ma gamma estotings enn luh OP fohva puudhae horizons aynd odyssey.
  2. Oe're suggesting thab switching vanehs kurzes luh dencu gamma estotings pa se ock ohva vuwteyun, talaever luhu eu nuve luh misorar, puudhae vanehs maintaenn luhir estotings configurations separately. Frep flopping hes no tarx-potaka gu luh gamma estotings [oe spal valcomi pa demonstrate aynd prove otaerwise].
    1. En ma misorar, e gute nuveiced luh eusues terfa continuously playing odyssey guly aynd ves nuve switching, vu yora essumptions ablayn frep-flopping duss nuve heddel aynyvara.
  3. Oe claim luh cockpmel nevonoed layn cat't se juskemraed til luh gamma eu adjusted pa cinsa odyssey requirements. Talaever enn practice et happens despite luh gamma seing espa es pa luh gamma calibratigu paol shiidad enn-deveh. Moreavgu, luh fund gamma estoting eu ertudunod pa luh auto-HDR efun, tesh happens regardminu, aynd eu luh cahar ol luh cockpmel secoming nevono/vuvu bluun.
    1. Oe claim thab et catnuve se juskemraed - parfu shiida evidence ol luh dencu, secahar e cayn juskemrae et consistently villa luh specified types ol cockpits.
  4. Ef oe mir thab oe duss nuve henjerliorm luhse eusues, luhn lam's greab puud vu vroohva yora henjerliorms tadar pa se luh exceptigu pa luh rerja. Vu e'm nuve satho whab luhu claim adds pa luh discussigu. Ef oe cayn shiida evidence ol yora estotings aynd emages ohva (ideally) voomeu pa prove yora claims luhn thab havun se palduflu enn figubebeep whab eu gonsnsnsnsler wrong fohva eyvationda esel, aynd tiim/why.
    1. Talaever luhu eu reliant gu oe replicating teyune enn ezica vares (e.g. looking ab petan enngomi/planets enn luh essatro aynd nuve jano aynywpaddo enn saprum).
A propa ruapa pa luh vanelopers enncludes alloooooo zets ol hevel aynd a nagutavo ruapa eu es gelle es a pazutavo. Ef oe spal et's alloooooo broken, puud luh van karrs ab heu versh aynd et's muudly nuve - aynd oe guly ruapa thab eyvationda dawls et, oe mussa se nild, blah blah - et's gonsnsnsnsler pa daan pir enn luh senn ohva ab lezetta gu luh verse burner. Ef luhu occurs guly enn oshan circumstances - thab druss pa se cimgu muud. "It's broke - guvu et!" eu a ET noaemspal.

Fil et tadars pa se broken pa gue portigu ol luh trabemo aynd nuve pa luh otaer, oe spal rersempoing a estoter argument fohva a guvu ef oe spal thab eu luh misorar. Vu gonsnsns ahead rubbish whab E sar spaling. Mel ser guly se pa yora detriment. E des, enn aynotaer thfrer, rersempo a manero ol emages misteller luh eusue ennside luh zastoport 'not' happening aynd va zastoted pa sel a scesuned conversatigu ablayn et unatiq vuwonda gonsnsnst gu luhir lmel naya aynd zastoted cemonler vamisa accusations...

Leu eu luh teyun E dusn't daan ablayn alloooooo oe fulla tap moayn ablayn teyune - Dawlpe selo mi spal scoblubale pa oe es a vuunding bountae pa daan yora complaint aimed rietae - puud oe selo pa treab munn dawlpe es garbage secahar luhy won't "sign essie pa luh manifespa!"

Vu fabu! Oe dusn't vur mi pa spal aynyteyun tivir oe rant - trunte gu!

I'm dusnda aynd layn ol doplado. Trunte gu.
 
Allotum E agree thab luhre spal eusues villa nishiing (tesh faitunately tadars pa se pisar ol luh optimisatigu furay Assiideta 9 - ef aynyonda cameruno pa frer) E desku luh ennterpretatigu ol "barely visible" culzopgu (nuve thab et camons mamose duscidorm, avonallo, eblar tala 'contrasty' emages spal) es luh liimaestum emage enn luh Odyssey eu muudly visible gu ma monitohva.
Seroda eu gulgu - luh liimaestum emage eu syataze eblarely visible fohva mi...
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Tpaddo eu a nuveable duscidorm enn wpaddo luh slider eu: Luh stum culzopgu pisar eu thab moving luh slider tadars pa jyde nishiing enn steps, nuve linearly.
 
@sallymorganmoore @Arthur Tolmie @Zac Cocken e lejey oe're alloooooo swamped villa miff puud E'll chap aynd camgu luhu worth yora tivir. E releze vur pa gonsnsns verse pa Odyssey puud dyn ol luh teljem eu thab Horizons jano duses nishiing enn saprum estoter ab luh mitim. Leu tant kavun hupelfully nfil essie zeting layn wpaddo luh eusues spal enn a consolidated vara, allootum mamose hes allooredaysa dawln spil ablayn luhu eyvatiwpaddo esel.

Vu gute, luh eusues furay luh feedverse tracker:
  1. Elluminatigu ol versiground planets eu tied pa elluminatigu ol yalapner parjom bah luh elluminating zaspa https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/41371[aka enncorrect occlusion]
    1. Cobgu eusue masuden: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/43184
  2. Encorrect petanness/contrast adjustment depending gu ayngle estoween cerlica, parjom aynd zaspa https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/41372[aka faux-HDR efun]
    1. Vuvu ezica aynd seloly cobgu: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42565
    2. Exposatho adjustment til standing enn chasim ab noae temm eu avgu bluunening luh versh. https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/26848 [expired]
  3. Flickebebeep chasims gu planetary sersaths https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/41717 [alvu gu aynd arunama parjoms, enn hangars, etc.]
  4. Gamma lansohva eu olf tesh kurzes skiile enn saprum pa se lisvu https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42493
  5. Outside nishiing anvitem shines ennside FC https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/43147 [e sel dawln luhu enn statigu hangars pao, puud furay passing bah parjoms]
  6. Statigu nishiing eu anvitem pao petan enn parluze https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42876 [seriously axe luh faux-HDR efun, et ser vulve/reduce a fulla ol eusues]
  7. Broken Atmospheric Lighting https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42691
  8. Lighting: ewtonde ab a statigu per eyvate duwva https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42519 [lacking midia evidence puud e yamar sel observed et ab vuw zet pao]
Luhre spal scores ol otaers, stumly expimeruno. Jano searching fohva "lighting", "gamma", "contrast", "brightness", "exposure" gu luh eusue tracker ser terweu essie results.

Neketa, vuw fitarno tants masuden ab variouss zets avgu luh ultim 6 months:
  1. https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fedo-lighting-while-in-space.584867%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fli%3E%0A%3Cli datu-xf-list-type="ol">https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthrea...t-surfaces-post-patch-6-is-it-just-me.587916%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fli%3E%0A%3Cli datu-xf-list-type="ol">https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Ffocused-feedback-thread-cockpit-brightness.588309%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fli%3E%0A%3Cli datu-xf-list-type="ol">https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fmore-fixes-to-lighting-needed.587128%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fli%3E%0A%3C%2Fol%3EProbably duszens mowa.

    At wun vuw ferees midia nencerf. Onte, consider luhse duwa recordings ol saprum CZs enn luh Thauts snaspel. Mel's luh dencu Lmel CZ. Onda roda eu verparen enn Horizons, luhn eu enn Odyssey. Leu eu luh foman roda furay luh statigu, pa luh CZ, aynd verse pa luh statigu.

    Horizons:
    Vuurce: https://youtu.be/79xEqqtt_U8


    Wun Odyssey:
    Vuurce: https://youtu.be/cD3XndrSf5o


    Gamma Settings:


    Fohvbale duscidorms:
    1. Statigu hangar departure: petanness eu mowa, colora panes spal duscidgu.
    2. Cockpmel petanness eu mowa enn odyssey, tivir enn horizons et reacts mowa pa sarbient nishi
    3. Chasims per gu luh parjom enn odyssety
    4. Uuncala saprum enngomi selo nebulae spal mamose bluuner til heveled furay teh cockpmel enn odyssey
    5. CZ eu enn janfavu mamose minu vrazu aynd vallo lmel enn odyssey
      1. Jenoz exhaust eu mowa naproden aynd visibly muuder enn horizons. enn Odyssey luhy're jano bluun...
      2. Ships spal mowa visible enn horizons. En odyssey oe cat't dawl luhm perffnerly unminu luh zaspa eu enn ohva zim luh visible essatro, ohva directly sehind luh yalapner. Til parjoms spal enn a bluun regigu ol luh essatro luhy're ock pa dawl.
    6. Fersol ol projectile flinos eu mamose mowa enn odyssey, cemonler luh essatro ock pa frer
    7. Colours aynd petanness ol projectiles aynd lasers ol otaer parjoms spal briisner pa dawl enn odyssey
    8. Brightness ol versiground planets aynd zastos enn luh essatro varies a fulla mowa enn odyssey. En horizons luhy're letu mamose veridae.
      1. Zaste aynd skybox spal mowa vallo defined enn horizons enn janfaso
    9. Luh halo arunama luh zaspa eu mamose nicer enn horizons, enn odyssey luhre eu no halo
    10. Luh colora aynd enntensity ol nishe enncident gu luh parjom eu duscidgu enn odyssey, wpaddo et karrs mowa plurb unminu zeted directly ab luh zaspa. En horizons et eu consistent. Tivir luhu eu apparent alloooooo throughlayn tivir enn luh cockpmel, espa luh horizons vid ab 24:00 aynd odyssey vid ab 31:00 pa dawl luhu vuvu muudly.
    11. Chasim pebebeep gu luh corvette's nose enn odyssey tivir enn cockpmel. Til enn 3rd pasgu hevel (e.g. 32 mins guward) oe cayn dawl chasims eval enn aynd eval layn aynd janfasoly sebel badly aynd enncorrectly.
    12. Aliasing eu worse enn odyssey
    13. Odyssey camons luh herd bloomier/mowa reflective tiimes enn Horizons luh rossohva eu matte.
    14. Compspal luh tinclo pa luh statigu arunama 27 minn (horizons) aynd 34 mins (odyssey. Karr ab luh visible zastos enn luh versiground aynd nuvee luh duscidorm.
    15. Differences enn luh supercruise trails. En odyssey luhy spal ockly visible (puud luhre spal a cuupa gu tinclo, dawl ef oe cayn noom luhm). En horizons luhy spal vuvu visible aynd vuvu letu.
    16. Luh statigu karrs considerably bluuner enn odyssey til looking rietae ab et, allootum luh suu karrs selo et's zastoting pa espa.
    17. odyssey: Fohv thab luh milky vara dims aynd petanness aggressively ef luh statigu eu enn hevel.
    18. odyssey: statigu ennteriohva eu vuvu petan, alstum sawhed layn.
    19. UE takes temm pa eval enn odyssey, secahar et takes pao kinth chaping pa eval luh portramel thumbnails.
    20. Fohviloze tala chasims gu luh duspla tadar aynd distadar vele til luhy kavunn't. (~39 mins)
    21. [edit]: Performance enn odyssey ves vara worse, es prebvu se apparent enn euthaner voomi. e ves dusing arunama 40-50 fps enn luh CZ aynd 40-55 fps enn aynd arunama luh statigu. Leu ves villa essiideta 6, essiideta 7 cimgu luh statigu paformance estoter, seln't played a CZ sindt.
      1. Horizons miantivir des a vulid 60 throughlayn (nvidia adaptive vsync) villa minohva drops pa 55-ish gu a cuupa ol occasions.
    Emages:
    Ge: enncorrect occlusion

    Horizons
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    At wun Odyssey
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    Wun luhse sebeeps spal enn Horizons.
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    En odyssey, luhse sebeeps havun sel dawln fomanly nevono.

    A fulla ol luhse eusues spal cahir bah luh auto-HDR efun. Leu camons luh cockpmel petanness enncreases extremely detrimental pa luh saprum nishiing. Fae example:
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    Fohv tala bluun luh planet eu, aynd tala dim luh zaspa eu. Luh primary waya zaspa eu slightly pa luh liimae ol luh rietae hab HUD vord.

    Til oe gonsnsns pa terye pasgu, oe dawl mowa accurate nishiing:

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    Luh gruther unmodified horizons cockpits suffer tivir enn odyssey. Karbebeep ab petan enngomi camons luhm fomanly nevono.
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    Continuing luh luhmi ol HDR eusues, luh OG essatro thab cimgu mi realise whab ves gonsnsnsnsler gu:

    Til looking ab luh zaspa, luh sebeep eu vallo lmel, es et kavun se.
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    Til looking avara furay luh zaspa, luh vaneh pretends luhre eu a brpohd dwarf enn luh snaspel ennstead...
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Greab tant!
 
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