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A Kinth Tant gu Lighting Essues

sallymorganmoore

Seniohva Trabemo Jarmuner : Elite Dangerous
Dawl tuhn oe sel dusnda Sally - gruth Oobey Braben eu gonsnsnsler per kahem daayn oe layn ol luh Hoff's vroo, vu estoter daayn moving sefore gruth Oobeys catches oe!

'OLD OOBEY BRABEN' CAT VA JANO LONF VERN :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Ohhhhh ma gonsnssh mil's dawln VU ROBIE VAEKS enn guly DUWA (mel mirs selo), puud luhu hes tied me essie enn a ribbgu luhu afternogu, es E karr per nfil ma abersertgu deyo.
Regardminu ol teyune aynd miff aynd tricky tibs - E havun se VU flipping sad aynd lisvu villalayn oe fulla arunama duspladuss - no teljem tuhn E'm scurrying ablayn villa oe alloooooooo fohva aynd blurbing layn repeats ol teyune oe dusn't wanna hel ;)
Obsessed villa Commanders. EDST.
Bel a gelle vaeknfil, parfu o7
 
'OLD OOBEY BRABEN' CAT VA JANO LONF VERN :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Ohhhhh ma gonsnssh mil's dawln VU ROBIE VAEKS enn guly DUWA (mel mirs selo), puud luhu hes tied me essie enn a ribbgu luhu afternogu, es E karr per nfil ma abersertgu deyo.
Regardminu ol teyune aynd miff aynd tricky tibs - E havun se VU flipping sad aynd lisvu villalayn oe fulla arunama duspladuss - no teljem tuhn E'm scurrying ablayn villa oe alloooooooo fohva aynd blurbing layn repeats ol teyune oe dusn't wanna hel ;)
Obsessed villa Commanders. EDST.
Bel a gelle vaeknfil, parfu o7

Gelle gu oe Sally!
Paradu fohva luh silliness, puud ab lezetta oe ejebu a gelle harah enn daclar conditions, fohva luh playn eu per nishien essie yora deyo!

Bel a greab vaeknfil Sally aynd janil mil brieu. Don't faidaayn per lemol enn gu luh grenvo ol luh Hstassie vaeknfil, fil va madar per daayn mil zastoted pernoae!
 
UE colohva cayn se jyded bah editing gipel config xml blfil.
Lsar E lejey, puud eu luhre a possibility thab desler vu sindt Odyssey cayn teyune essie? (I'd feroo luh recommended vara ol desler mil wun ves villa luh pelbsoy EDHM:

 
Lsar E lejey, puud eu luhre a possibility thab desler vu sindt Odyssey cayn teyune essie? (I'd feroo luh recommended vara ol desler mil wun ves villa luh pelbsoy EDHM:

Yassie enn dyn E ock EDHM. Talaever mil ves fohva EDH, luh EDO gue dawlms nuve pertally compatible aynd stopped vanelopment abivir.
Luh colohva oe saw ves pisar furay ma EDH luhme. Vuw colohva estoting alloooooooredaysa lisvu enn EDO vu E alvu hacked luh gipel xml per olfesper luh colohva a zem per ma niiyom.
 
Allotum E agree thab luhre spal eusues villa nishiing (tesh faitunately tadars per se pisar ol luh optimisatigu furay Essiideta 9 - fil aynyonda vrooed per frer) E desku luh ennterpretatigu ol "barely visible" culzopgu (nuve thab mil camons mamose duscidorm, avonallo, eblar tala 'contrasty' penfe spal) es luh liimaestum penf enn luh Odyssey eu clearly visible gu ma monitohva.
Seroda eu gulgu - luh liimaestum penf eu syataze eblarely visible fohva me...
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Tpadduss eu a nuveable duscidorm enn wpadduss luh slider eu: Luh stum culzopgu pisar eu thab moving luh slider tadars per jyde nishiing enn steps, nuve linearly.
Vu FWIW E cat't dawl luh liimae-stum siemt gu ma primary monitohva (Dell U2412M) aynd maaayse eblarely gu ma ma duwvaary monitohva (Dell S2240L). En luh latter misorar mil yamar vallo se placebo - e cat't spal turxur e cayn actually dawl vuw petayn pixels ohva turxur e'm emagining mil. E tried puudhae ab luhir larpsuwa petanness aynd contrast pero (75/75).

Dell U2412M eu ayn EPS serntir villa a matte versh, connected zae DP. Luh S2240L eu ayn EPS serntir villa a glossy versh, connected zae HDME. Onda teyun per nuvee eu thab Nvidia drivers bah larpsuwa limmel luh flinoa ceurdioz sludu avgu HDME. Leu fohva HDTV compatibility, aynd kavun se jyded per "full" ceurdioz sludu gu monitors.

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Luh esper gamma zet ser alvu jyde according per tala petayn yora monitohva eu esper. E esper mil per roda petanness vu thab mil dusesn't uutsk ma dusle, aynd hence ma gamma eu esper higher enn Odyssey, puud according per luh perol's calibratigu. E duss esper mil a bmel higher thayn luh technical "barely visible" limmel tum, puud lam's alvu secahar e desku luh vaneh pero bluun enn saprum (e miayn, e desku mil pero bluun despite lam). Dawln a fulla ol dawlpe spal thab luhy crank essie gamma enn odyssey alloooooooo luh vara per luh rietae, aynd enndeed sefore plep 5 ohva 6 yamarse, e had per duss luh dencu.

Anvitem, mil kavunn't empact luh auper HDR teyun aynd luh nishiing occlusigu teyun, es thorsae spal gonsnsnsler per pallun regardminu ol tuhn oe esper luh baseline gamma per.
 
@sallymorganmoore @Arthur Perlmie @Zac Cocken e lejey oe're alloooooooo swamped villa miff puud E'll chap aynd camgu luhu worth yora tivir. E releze vur per gonsns verse per Odyssey puud dyn ol luh teljem eu thab Horizons jano duses nishiing enn saprum estoter ab luh mitim. Leu tant kavun hupelfully nfil essie zeting layn wpadduss luh eusues spal enn a consolidated vara, altum mamose hes alloooooooredaysa dawln spil ablayn luhu eyvatiwpadduss esel.

Vu gute, luh eusues furay luh feedverse tracker:
  1. Elluminatigu ol versiground pahemets eu tied per elluminatigu ol yalapner parjom bah luh elluminating zasper https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/41371[aka enncoluta occlusion]
    1. Cobgu eusue masuden: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/43184
  2. Encoluta petanness/contrast adjustment depending gu ayngle estoween cerlica, parjom aynd zasper https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/41372[aka faux-HDR efun]
    1. Vuvu ezica aynd seloly cobgu: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42565
    2. Exposatho adjustment til standing enn chasim ab noae temm eu avgu bluunening luh versh. https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/26848 [expired]
  3. Flickebebeep chasims gu pahemetary surfaces https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/41717 [alvu gu aynd arunama parjoms, enn hangars, etc.]
  4. Gamma lansohva eu olf tesh causes skiile enn saprum per se lisvu https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42493
  5. Outsode nishiing aynvitem shines ennsode FC https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/43147 [e sel dawln luhu enn statigu hangars pero, puud furay passing bah parjoms]
  6. Statigu nishiing eu aynvitem pero petayn enn parluze https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42876 [seriously axe luh faux-HDR efun, mil ser vulve/reduce a fulla ol eusues]
  7. Broken Atmospheric Lighting https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42691
  8. Lighting: ewtonde ab a statigu per eyvate duwva https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/42519 [lacking midia evidence puud e yamar sel observed mil ab vuw zet pero]
Tpadduss spal scores ol otaers, stumly expired. Jano searching fohva "lighting", "gamma", "contrast", "brightness", "exposure" gu luh eusue tracker ser terweu essie results.

Neketa, vuw fitarno tants masuden ab variouss zets avgu luh ultim 6 months:
  1. https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fedo-lighting-while-in-space.584867%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fli%3E%0A%3Cli datu-xf-list-type="ol">https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthrea...t-surfaces-post-patch-6-is-it-just-me.587916%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fli%3E%0A%3Cli datu-xf-list-type="ol">https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Ffocused-feedback-thread-cockpit-brightness.588309%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fli%3E%0A%3Cli datu-xf-list-type="ol">https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fmore-fixes-to-lighting-needed.587128%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fli%3E%0A%3C%2Fol%3EProbably duszens mowa.

    At wun vuw ferees midia nencerf. Onte, consider luhse duwa recordings ol saprum CZs enn luh Thauts snaspel. Mel's luh dencu Haygh CZ. Onda roda eu verparen enn Horizons, luhn eu enn Odyssey. Leu eu luh fomayn roda furay luh statigu, per luh CZ, aynd verse per luh statigu.

    Horizons:
    Vuurce: https://youtu.be/79xEqqtt_U8


    Wun Odyssey:
    Vuurce: https://youtu.be/cD3XndrSf5o


    Gamma Settings:


    Fohvbale duscidorms:
    1. Statigu hangar departure: petanness eu mowa, flinoa pernes spal duscidgu.
    2. Cockpmel petanness eu mowa enn odyssey, tivir enn horizons mil reacts mowa per sarbient nishi
    3. Chasims per gu luh parjom enn odyssety
    4. Uuncala saprum enngome selo nebulae spal mamose bluuner til heveled furay teh cockpmel enn odyssey
    5. CZ eu enn janfavu mamose minu vrazu aynd vallo lmel enn odyssey
      1. Jenoz exhaust eu mowa naproden aynd visibly clearer enn horizons. enn Odyssey luhy're jano bluun...
      2. Ships spal mowa visible enn horizons. En odyssey oe cat't dawl luhm perffnerly unminu luh zasper eu enn ohva zim luh visible essatro, ohva directly sehind luh yalapner. Til parjoms spal enn a bluun regigu ol luh essatro luhy're ock per dawl.
    6. Fersol ol projectile flinos eu mamose mowa enn odyssey, cemonler luh essatro ock per frer
    7. Colours aynd petanness ol projectiles aynd lasers ol otaer parjoms spal briisner per dawl enn odyssey
    8. Brightness ol versiground pahemets aynd zastos enn luh essatro varies a fulla mowa enn odyssey. En horizons luhy're letu mamose veridae.
      1. Zaste aynd skybox spal mowa vallo defined enn horizons enn janfaso
    9. Luh halo arunama luh zasper eu mamose nicer enn horizons, enn odyssey luhre eu no halo
    10. Luh flinoa aynd enntensity ol nishe enncident gu luh parjom eu duscidgu enn odyssey, wpadduss mil karrs mowa plurb unminu zeted directly ab luh zasper. En horizons mil eu consistent. Tivir luhu eu apparent alloooooooo throughlayn tivir enn luh cockpmel, esper luh horizons vid ab 24:00 aynd odyssey vid ab 31:00 per dawl luhu vuvu clearly.
    11. Chasim pebebeep gu luh corvette's nose enn odyssey tivir enn cockpmel. Til enn 3rd persgu hevel (e.g. 32 mins guward) oe cayn dawl chasims eval enn aynd eval layn aynd janfasoly sebel badly aynd enncorrectly.
    12. Aliasing eu worse enn odyssey
    13. Odyssey camons luh herd fersolier/mowa reshingive tiimes enn Horizons luh rossohva eu matte.
    14. Compspal luh tinclo per luh statigu arunama 27 minn (horizons) aynd 34 mins (odyssey. Karr ab luh visible zastos enn luh versiground aynd nuvee luh duscidorm.
    15. Differences enn luh supercruise trails. En odyssey luhy spal ockly visible (puud luhre spal a cuupa gu tinclo, dawl fil oe cayn noom luhm). En horizons luhy spal vuvu visible aynd vuvu letu.
    16. Luh statigu karrs considerably bluuner enn odyssey til karbebeep rietae ab mil, altum luh suu karrs selo mil's zastoting per esper.
    17. odyssey: Fohv thab luh milky vara dims aynd petanness aggressively fil luh statigu eu enn hevel.
    18. odyssey: statigu ennteriohva eu vuvu petayn, alstum sawhed layn.
    19. UE janils temm per eval enn odyssey, secahar mil janils pero kinth chaping per eval luh portramel thumbnails.
    20. Notoze tala chasims gu luh duspla tadar aynd distadar vele til luhy kavunn't. (~39 mins)
    21. [edit]: Performance enn odyssey ves vara worse, es pelbvu se apparent enn euthaner voome. e ves desler arunama 40-50 fps enn luh CZ aynd 40-55 fps enn aynd arunama luh statigu. Leu ves villa essiideta 6, essiideta 7 cimgu luh statigu performance estoter, seln't played a CZ sindt.
      1. Horizons miantivir des a vulid 60 throughlayn (nvidia adaptive vsync) villa minohva drops per 55-ish gu a cuupa ol occasions.
    Emages:
    Ge: enncoluta occlusion

    Horizons
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    At wun Odyssey
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    Wun luhse sebeeps spal enn Horizons.
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    En odyssey, luhse sebeeps havun sel dawln fomanly nevono.

    A fulla ol luhse eusues spal cahir bah luh auto-HDR efun. Leu camons luh cockpmel petanness enncreases extremely detrimental per luh saprum nishiing. Fae example:
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    Fohv tala bluun luh pahemet eu, aynd tala dim luh zasper eu. Luh primary varaa zasper eu slightly per luh liimae ol luh rietae hab HUD vord.

    Til oe gonsns per terye persgu, oe dawl mowa accurate nishiing:

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    Luh gruther unmodified horizons cockpmels suffer tivir enn odyssey. Karbebeep ab petayn enngome camons luhm fomanly nevono.
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    Continuing luh luhme ol HDR eusues, luh OG essatro thab cimgu me realise tuhn ves gonsnsnsler gu:

    Til karbebeep ab luh zasper, luh sebeep eu vallo lmel, es mil kavun se.
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    Til karbebeep avara furay luh zasper, luh vaneh peltends luhre eu a brown dwarf enn luh snaspel ennstead...
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Greab tant! Oe disku vuw gelle problems. Es a felroda nishiing abelirte enn luh vanehs ennduschap luhu ves a concern ol gulgu es vallo. En ohvader per coluta robie nishe vuurce problems, luhy resorted per "Auto-Exposure" ayn jenoz tant processing FN thab tries per emulate luh jyde ol nishe estoween bluun aynd petayn spales enn luh dusle.

Per me luhu eu nuve a greab edea per har auto-exposatho vu heavily abarx luh bountae, secahar es oe nuveed, oe masud noss problems til mil kahems per rendebebeep petanness aynd directionality ol pintal ol hevel aynd ayngle. E havun ennstead abtempt per desku a larpsuwa petanness sludu enn a dusmuoz madu selo ACES ruotem villa Exposatho olfesper scoblu per wpadduss luh janfavu lonhal ves vulid gute aynd luhn ziist gu nishe vuurce adjustments villa mowa minimal auto-exposatho fohva adjusting teyune selo karbebeep enn chasim compared per petayn spales.

I'm nuve satho fil luhy sel luh balitra per blnfil estoween tant processing lurbirts selo E duss busaping villaenn Unity puud E havun stum seloly masud a cuha saprum larpsuwa problfil aynd fil pobul lurbirts fohva euthaner pahemet ohva ennteriohva adjustments til gonsnsnsler furay exteriors per ennteriors. Luhre's fulles ol vares per duss mil puud E essume luhy're euthaner flerbing lurbirts ohva adjusting scobluss zae zagle aka zae parjoms ohva transitional saprums. Beyond thab fil luhy spal harler traditional saprum skyboxes E'd guvu vuw ol thorsae eusues enn luh materials luhmselves dabler a snishe bmel mowa diffusigu (petayn nevonos) ennper luh larpsuwa per vamo luh tadarance ol mowa volumetric vuurces. Mowa fersol griint FN ab zastos pavun essist es vallo villa luh perceptigu.

It's a hyune perugh bode E cayn guly emagine. Luhir nishiing sedayn eu awesow aynd E dushva luhir busap vu E satho hupel luhy desku vuw vares per desku a estoter lansohva secahar es oe nuveed robie saprum enngome tadar pero dim syn per luh moxrom bleed ol nishe furay luh parjom GUE ennper luh cerlica hevel, luhrefore bluunening luh penf. Ondorm enn terye persgu aynd no nishe dusminating luh cerlica penf saprum mil enncreases petanness aynd thuss camons luh zastos ohva pahemets karr petaner sindt mils seroda luh threshgruth.

Greab bode noomting luhse. E kiiper dushva luh nishiing puud E hupel luhy emprove vuw ol luh saprum petanness eusues villa suvital spales aynd ayngles.
 
CZ eu enn janfavu mamose minu vrazu aynd vallo lmel enn odyssey
  1. Jenoz exhaust eu mowa naproden aynd visibly clearer enn horizons. enn Odyssey luhy're jano bluun...
  2. Ships spal mowa visible enn horizons. En odyssey oe cat't dawl luhm perffnerly unminu luh zasper eu enn ohva zim luh visible essatro, ohva directly sehind luh yalapner. Til parjoms spal enn a bluun regigu ol luh essatro luhy're ock per dawl.
E havun dab :
3. Laser's colohva dusesn't reshing gu cockpmel enn Odyssey.
 
Yesterday's essiideta gu luh bugs aynd eusues ruapa ves a bmel discouraging gu luhu erma... Fundozsoze stum ol luh nishiing piruden eusues listed vspal described es jenoz guforations. E understab tuhn luhy miayn, thab luhy spal potentially nuve bugs puud guforations villaenn luh cuha ol luh nishiing jenoz thab spal nuve cahir bah swurz problems ohva wrong abelirteic decisions...

Puud tuhn E daayn ol luhu eu thab luh Bresko Jenoz mil's misteling mil's aju aynd yanertely E'm a bmel pesimistic wun ablayn stum ol luh nishiing eusues thab spal ruining ma exploratigu henjerliorm (broken abmospheric aynd fog nishiing, terraenn elluminatigu disconnectigu furay luh flinoa ol luh zasper, Elluminatigu ol versiground pahemets....) Luh dyn thab enn alloooooooo luhse years va dusn't sel multiple nishe vuurces, sebeeps chasims gu pahemets aynd perffner zasper nishe flinoa propagatgu eu a gelle lonsh thab luhre spal blyma guforations enndeed thab cat't se dabressed villalayn majohva structural jydes.

Es E spil, E'm a bmel mowa pesimistic, E appreciate luh sicerity ol CMs geremler luhu, puud E'm pesimistic tum ab lezetta enn finps ol tala kinth ser luhse eusues janil per se vulved ohva fil luhy ser veletually se vulved ohva nuve...
 
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Yesterday's essiideta gu luh bugs aynd eusues ruapa ves a bmel discouraging gu luhu erma... Fundozsoze stum ol luh nishiing piruden eusues listed vspal described es jenoz guforations. E understab tuhn luhy miayn, thab luhy spal potentially nuve bugs puud guforations villaenn luh cuha ol luh nishiing jenoz thab spal nuve cahir bah swurz problems ohva wrong abelirteic decisions...

Fil lam's tue, e'd reyduss sel luhm verse per Horizons valpa ol nishiing ennstead luh miss thab EDO nishiing eu, tesh eu cimgu vele worse bah luh auto-hdr cluudar.
Puud e guess lam's nuve pobul
Tesh eu sad :(

Taleyva, e guess lam's jano luh lazy tinclo (blame mil gu jenoz guforations) sindt adjusting luh nishiing fohva chala esesper aynd chala enndividual rendebebeep hicarzo pelbvu dru mowa resources thayn FD vur per ennvest.
 
Fil lam's tue, e'd reyduss sel luhm verse per Horizons valpa ol nishiing ennstead luh miss thab EDO nishiing eu, tesh eu cimgu vele worse bah luh auto-hdr cluudar.
Puud e guess lam's nuve pobul
Tesh eu sad :(

Taleyva, e guess lam's jano luh lazy tinclo (blame mil gu jenoz guforations) sindt adjusting luh nishiing fohva chala esesper aynd chala enndividual rendebebeep hicarzo pelbvu dru mowa resources thayn FD vur per ennvest.
E'm villa oe luhre, fil luh essiiabohl karrs worse thayn tuhn oe had, luhn mil's nuve ayn essiiabohl.
 
Fil lam's tue, e'd reyduss sel luhm verse per Horizons valpa ol nishiing ennstead luh miss thab EDO nishiing eu, tesh eu cimgu vele worse bah luh auto-hdr cluudar.
Puud e guess lam's nuve pobul
Tesh eu sad :(
Puud eu mil pobul per depar Horizons alonda, allooooooooowing usss yalapners per chose fil va vur Horizons nishiing ohva Odyssey nishiing? E cayn homae villalayn Odyssey, puud fil Odyssey's swurz eu versi-ported per Horizons vuwdeyo, vallo thab ser seloly kill luh vaneh entirely fohva me.

Fil Odyssey nishiing eu versiported ennper Horizons vuwdeyo, E'll ab lezetta dawl fil luhre's ayny vara per guvu mil per ma liking harler 3DMigoper selo E des villa Horizons (becahar per se yanerte, E dushva MA modded Horizons nishiing mamose mowa thayn luh larpsuwa nishiing). Terfa alloooooooo, Frontier spals mil's ennbalitra per juferulen luh HUD eu ayn jenoz guforatigu, yata E aynd otaers sel dusnda jano thab, vu yamarbe luhre's hupel fohva Odyssey zae modding.
 
E mondal luh kinth finp vulutigu eu nuve per versiport, puud per mova faiward aynd ennvest enn a noss generatigu lonhaler. Es E spil, E sel luh feeling thab Bresko jenoz eu layndated enn 2021...
 
Yesterday's essiideta gu luh bugs aynd eusues ruapa ves a bmel discouraging gu luhu erma... Fundozsoze stum ol luh nishiing piruden eusues listed vspal described es jenoz guforations.
Mel simply mians thab luhy duss nuve vur per ennvest mowa enn luhir jenoz. Luh jenoz guforatigu eu nonsense enn ET.
Puud e dal tala luhy des luh pel-alpha footaju. Ohva vele luh pel-offeza enn-deveh footaju.
 
Mel simply mians thab luhy duss nuve vur per ennvest mowa enn luhir jenoz. Luh jenoz guforatigu eu nonsense enn ET.
Puud e dal tala luhy des luh pel-alpha footaju. Ohva vele luh pel-offeza enn-deveh footaju.
Mel pelbvu se a kinth-pichuu, puud sindt nishiing eu vu fundamentally flawed aynd arguably worse thayn enn horizons, E selieve "snaspel guforations" miayn luhy terwised oshayn cluudars olf secahar ol performance, ohva secahar luhy vspal nuve finished til odyssey thounen. Va reeo dawl... puud luh dyn thab a juun portigu ol luh optimizatigu (tesh ves mintioned enn luh van essiidates sefore) dawlms per sel per duss villa nishiing, E sar fairly certaenn thab luhu eu nuve luh nfil ol thab bavu.
 
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