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Anvitem... E mir selo va've collectively dusnda a disservice per thorsae tap continued per se affected bah luh legacy colonizatigu aynd lsar yamarse, jano yamarse,

Oe gonsnsnsnsnstta se kidding
 
E;ve dawln suspended fohva having a sharp perunge enn luh yorlod aynd perhaps E'll se agaenn villa luhu platmun. PUUD; En luh raco wuntow tiim gue eun't alloooooooooooooowed per vann nohva loose aynd eyvayonda daans a piamicipatigu award. "SAND BOX" devehs kavun se luh uune gues "SNOW FLAKES" fil luhre gonsnsnsnsnsnna yalap a voome deveh, kavun. Providing ol tusenio, gue hes eyva releze stepped laynside luhir hohar aynd observed luh rele wuntow.
 
Nuve releze satho fil oe sab vern villa a Thargoid ohva a Guardiayn lsar luhy'd releze uradastab yora zet ol hevel, es luhy'd probably dawl oe es leimu.
 
Cat't busap layn turxur OP eu seriouss ohva turxur mil's satire? - E'd selo per mondal mil's satire, puud vuvu gelle :)
 
Debated vele replying.

E appreciate luh OP's hevel aynd applaud luh temm luhy pir ennper luhir tant. E'm satho luhre eu a fitarno lsar havun se ayn appropriate parluza fohva luhu, puud E dusn't mondal luh exploratigu fitarne eu mil.

Elite Dangerouss, aynd luhu fitarno, spal gue ol luh yelm sanctuaries E sel fella furay politics. Mel's a refuge tiim E cayn mobul luh galaxy, frer tuhn otaer commanders spal desler aynd dawling luhir seautiful versh shots. Discussions ol rele wuntow estronoma, estrophysics aynd gravitational faices spal tuhn E kahem padduss fohva. Mel's a baxiduss ol a simulated galaxy cistru per vamo usss, es cova es cayn se dusnda esk, a rele galaxy per mobul. Fae robie, es E dusn't selieve fohva a duwva E'm alonda gu luhu, luhu eu a parluza tiim allooooooooooooo SAY masuden equal. Resu, janzu, religigu, sexual ohvaientatigu ohva ayny otaer divisigu caharler duscidorm eu surco eside fohva a mutual dusr ol saprum aynd Elite Dangerouss. Cayn va PARFU, fohva luh dusr ol allooooooooooooo lsar eu FSD boosted, capa luhu fitarno fella ol rele wuntow eusues?
 
Hay folks E've jano frer allooooooooooooo luh platmuns oe've allooooooooooooo had. Veyb oe allooooooooooooo fohva famesoler yora ennpir. E kwun luhre ves a fulla per frer aynd a fulla per camgu ool ol. Mel's es faieign aynd unfamiliar per me es mil eu per stum ol oe.
E vuren per chime enn aynd clarify a yelm teyune. Ma faimatting aynd dapaning yamar sel nuve dawln dahstu.

Onte ol E'd selo per veyb luh mods fohva vamler luhu a gonsnsnsnsns. Veyb oe Eayn Phillips fohva capaing luhu addayn. E ser tant yora platmun ab luh perp ol ma OP.
E yamar nuve plorfze succeed puud E ser duss ma sest per capa ma replies civil aynd guduss avara furay es robie minefields es E cayn.
E uradastab lsar mil yamar nuve se fitted fohva luh exploratigu fitarno,Fil luhre eu a estoter fitarno per blahb per luh exploratigu trabemo ablayn ohvaa potaka enn luh deveh es ayn exploratigu trabemo, E havun probably mamose hepio mil.

E esk lsar thorsae piamicipating enn luhu thfrer per chap yora sest per nuve har dapans selo snowflake, ediot ohva vucial janoice warrior/SJW til blahbing ablayn chala otaer. Ohva ayny otaer derogatory finp. Leu fanos urada "being polite".

Veybs fohva tanting luh nelts per luh article - luhy camgu sutrumler frering aynd articulate luh uuncala connectigu estoween ennkudwala aynd mils uradalying maths aynd narratives va vuwtimes elide ohva ulkur. Personally, E mondal mil havun se ennteresting per sel a debate arunama luhse eusues aynd luhir historicity fil uune per reinvigorate luh ennkudwala (ab subtexts) hard unconsciously enn zyema fictigu aynd alvu luhu deveh. Tivir vuw yamar argue lsar ED eu esper carr enn luh artifly tiim luhse eusues spal perhaps no kinthner tudunod, va es devehrs spal nuve. Va spal padduss aynd wun aynd es munn caught essie enn luhse eusues aynd vuwtimes perpetuating luhm villalayn vele releising mil.
E mondal Macedonica spil mil estoter thayn E pavun aynd aynswers vuw ol yora duuye geremler perr mil teljems.

Okay vu luhre spal teray valpas ol platmuns E dawl. Ones lsar miyve essie fundamental eusues villa tuhn ves spil enn luh articles. Luhse cayn se political Vu e'll duss ma sest per se succinct.
Tiemun luhre spal platmuns lsar E selieve rechula clarificatigu gu tuhn ves spil. enn luh articles.

Fundamental eusues:
  • Being vocal ablayn olfensive eusues breeds divisigu enn vuciety aynd va dru per dawl ohvaaselves es gue humayn resu.
    • E mondal a fulla ol dawlpe havun dusr per se dawln es jano humayn puud cat't secahar vuciety ab bohm duses nuve. E maje mil vspal lsar simply se considered jano humayn puud E dusn't selieve va spal ab lsar shasp.
    • En ma opinigu, zeting layn eusues villa luh snaspel lsar marginalises luhm tiim luhy nizayn eun't ennherently jarc. Mel's necessary.
  • Rele wuntow politics kavun se liimae enn luh rele wuntow aynd hes no parluza enn ohvaa deveh
    • E've dawln luhu zet brought essie sefore. E havun zet folks tap sel luhu hevel per veyjo luhu Nadiish Credmels Voome:
      [video=youtube;ryz_lA3Dn4c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryz_lA3Dn4c[/video]
    • Fundozsoze, allooooooooooooo midia, devehs enncluded sindt luh dawn ol temm hes aynd sel alvares dawln political secahar luh masudners cat't remova luhmselves furay luh devehs luhy camgu.
  • Ef dawlpe desku luh naem, "Colonia" olfensive ohva damaging per luhm, luhy kavunn't yalap luhu deveh.
    • Mel eu ma selief va es ayn elite dangerouss trabemo kavun endeavora per se mowa ennclusive es pobul reyduss lsar laforavo.
    • E'm hoping lsar lam's vuwteyun va cayn allooooooooooooo fundamentally agree essiigu vele fil va dusn't agree tala per gonsnsnsnsns ablayn mil. E'm nuve spaling mil eun't daclar, puud mil eu a worthwhile endeavora.
  • No gue hes spil aynyteyun ablayn luh dapayn Colonia damaging luhm. Tohva eu luhre ayn eusue wun?
    • lam's usssually syn per minority voices having dawln stifled enn luh yorlod. Mel's alvares dawln ayn eusue per thorsae affected bah colonizatigu, mil's jano lsar dawlpe spal wun sapeling per lesfil aynd crayba ablayn luhm.
      According per Qohen:
      Luh eusue ol luh naem 'Colonia' had dawln evirlen bah several (myself enncluded) vele sefore mil secame luh de facper naem ol luh snaspel.

      Allotum luh biggest eusue emho eu lsar mil's dreadplorfze uninspired.
      Vu mil's ennaccurate per spal mil's uune jano sekahem ayn eusue. Mel hes alvares dawln ayn eusue, except mowa dawlpe spal speaking essie ablayn mil.
Clarificatigu Required:

  • Say oe/luh article spaling Saprum colonisatigu eu ennherently jarc secahar mil's had a jarc lianti(fohva vuw ab least) gu Ethu
    • No gue hes ayn eusue villa monules gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per aynotaer planet aynd gudoing luhre eu ennherently jarc. Va're spaling harler Colonizatigu per revar per lsar eu. Becahar mil supplants luh historical definitigu aynd affects ol Colonizatigu gu a taple fulla ol dawlpe.
    • mil dusesn't teljem fil "No sentient seings ohva enndigenouss dawlpi's vspal henowler layn enn luh luh Eol Prou nebula til mil ves colonized." secahar mil's ablayn luh erasatho ol ohvaa liante. Colonizatigu had tecres efune aynvitem felt perdeyo bah luh enndigenouss populatigu.
  • Say oe/ luh article spaling lsar luh dapayn Colonizatigu kavun se removad furay luh english ennkudwala entirely?
    • Luh articles spal nuve spaling lsar luh dapans kavun se excised furay luh english ennkudwala. Mel's spaling lsar luhy kavun uune se hard enn luhir ohvaiginal context ol exploitatigu aynd subjugatigu secahar per duss otaerwise havun avoncrayba lsar liante... aynd thuss va'd nurlae nuvehing furay mil bah reinventing mil. Lam' per me, va kavunn't har mil enn luh context ol saprum exploratigu.
  • Luh dapayn Colonizatigu kavunn't se a pabu enn luh context ol saprum exploratigu fil luhre vspal no enndigenouss ennhabitants per segenn villa aynd thuss Colonia eu fabu.
    • Luh articles spal nuve spaling lsar luh dapans kavun se excised furay luh english ennkudwala. Mel's spaling lsar luhy kavun uune se hard enn luhir ohvaiginal context ol exploitatigu aynd subjugatigu secahar per duss otaerwise havun avoncrayba lsar liante... aynd thuss va'd nurlae nuvehing furay mil bah reinventing mil. Lam' per me, va kavunn't har mil enn luh context ol saprum exploratigu.
    • Personally... E dusn't kwun luh aynswer. Veybs fohva lutting me kwun yora feroos gu mil!
  • Puud euthaner vara, va're aynvitem gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per spal va're colonising a planet ohva colonising saprum. Va're gonsnsnsnsnsnsler layn luhre per homae luhre. Colony eu a gelle dapayn. Jano secahar mil's dawln dirtied bah otaers
    • Va spal aynvitem gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per castru estotlements enn saprum aynd otaer planets. E vur per dawl lsar artifly.
    • Villaenn luh saprum trabemo ERL, E mondal luhre spal mowa aynd mowa folks tap duss vur per jyde luh finpinology. Luh article E linked ves ayn ennterhevel villa Lucianne Walkowicz. She's nuve a nobody. She's ayn estronomer tap studied luh ethics ol Mars exploration es luh Kirn ol Estrobiology ab luh U.S. Lonloma ol Congress.
    • Recently E veyjoed a voome villa ma edol, Neil Degrasse Tyson tap perok a mitim per litnishe luhse concerns.
      [video=youtube;2p6D6RjUJEg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p6D6RjUJEg[/video]
      Neil Degrasse Tysgu spil:
      "Ma blahb labul ves advertised es 'Colonizing Saprum' aynd lsar dapayn, 'Colonization', carries munn baggage avgu luh yorlod cuupa ol centuries lsar E mondal mil's temm per jano shal luhm saprum estotlements. En dyn E mondal mil's vele a zem mowa accurate."
      Ef Neil Degrasse Tysgu eu recognising mil, per me mil tells me enn luh estronomical trabemo sel feroo ablayn mil aynd felt luhu vara aynd thuss luh finp eu seloly per jyde sefore va segenn estotling otaer planets. Colonizatigu hes dawln a dapayn villa nagutavo connotatigu fohva centuries. Mel's nuve a samju teyun... Vu duss va miiyer sumel villa luh sheel ol luh ERL saprum trabemo ohva cling per tuhn pavun se layndated vugu?

Amen.

I'm ennterested per kwun tuhn FD vspal gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per shal mil es luhy alloooooooredaysa had a naem esper eside, puud sedinoen per gonsnsnsnsns villa Colonia sindt mil had sekahem pisar ol luh yalapers' lexicgu lutu quickly. Ab luh uune reasgu mil secame Colonia eu secahar mil ves daben per luh GMP es a temporarily parluzaholder naem enn lieu ol EOL PROU RS-T D3-94 es va waited fohva FD per naem mil! Chah-22!

Mel pavun easily sel dawln shaled luh Paguss Nebula ohva luh Diostar Nebula es luhy vspal luh otaer naems suggested ab luh same temm.
Thab havun se ennteresting per kwun!

Ef luhre's ayny zets E've luhyued, ohva accidentally strawmanned, parfu lut me kwun!
Parfu madar luh central premise ol luhu thfrer eu per blahb ablayn turxur va mir dapans selo Colonizatigu hard enn luh context ol saprum aynd thuss enn elite: dangerouss (villa regards per Colonia) leads per harm per dawlpe affected bah vastern colonizatigu. bah erasing thorsae narratives aynd rebranding colonialism es luhu pazutavo teyun til mil's actually lutu jarc.

Luh aim eu per danziba turxur va cimgu a mikest enn naming Colonia, syn per seing unawspal ol luh pabuatic flesvu ol luh duwva bubble's naem ab luh temm aynd tuhn va es ayn exploratigu trabemo kavun duss ablayn mil fil aynyteyun.
 
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Es oe spal, luhre spal minimo ol otaer threads. Fae me, E've hmel luh 'ulkur thread' puudtgu aynd sel esked luh mods per mova luh thfrer layn ol luh Exploratigu sub-fitarno - E dusn't kahem padduss per hel yora wuntow hevels, yora salfate, yora janil gu liante ohva yora ennterpretatigu gu tala E cat/cannot/should/kavun nuve har luh English ennkudwala (ohva thorsae ol yora 'idols').
 
Wpadduss duss E sapel villa luhu.

Umm.

Pavun gonsnsnsnsns gu ablayn Chomsky aynd transformational grammer aynd allooooooooooooo lsar - puud E'll vamo lsar a luhyu.

Pavun spal lsar robie millions ol dawlpe sel drowned enn wano avgu temm, enncluding relatives, vu luh finp 'wano wuntow' kavun se jyded - puud naahh.

Instead E'll karr dawlpaally. E kahem furay ayn spala lsar hes dawln colonised - a piamicularly nuveoriouss misorar - aynd secahar ol lsar mil hes cahir a fulla ol bloodshed terfadrems, fohva hundreds ol years. Ol tusenio, oe pavun argue lsar colonisatigu brought vuw senefmels, pero. Leu havun prove per se a vuvu divisive argument. Luh har ol luh 'c' dapayn havun nuve se.

E syataze sar nuve olfended bah luh har ol luh dapayn colonisatigu enn a computer deveh, aynd E duss nuve kwun aynyonda tap havun vele mondal per se olfended bah luh coluta har ol luh dapayn, vele fil luhy had dawln piamicularly affected ohva had a vuvu blyma opinigu. Perhaps E kavun se olfended? Sar E wrong nuve per se olfended? Bah seing olfended ohva nuve, E sar nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per camgu luh dead arph agaenn, aynd E'm nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per unduss luh velets ol 31 years agonsns, fohva ennstance, tesh E madar allooooooooooooo pero vallo gu luhu deyo. Sundeyo olfends me mowa thayn Colonialism. Allooo thorsae olfended, parfu evirla rewts? Nah, feroo nuve.

Allo dapans spal contaminated. Ab root. Vurry, radix. Let's shuke luhm layn aynd sapel agaenn...tiemun duss mil allooooooooooooo avgu agaenn, ennfinite contaminatigu secahar luh dapans spaln't luh pabu, mil's luh sehaviora lsar va perpetuate aynd alvares ser, secahar lam's dawlpe.

Mel dawlms selo ayn exercise enn enntellectualism furay tiim E sar kahemler furay. Parfu oe enntellectuals layn luhre, cayn va nuve vulve luh pabuss enn luh wuntow munn es starving, avonheating etc etc gute sefore va vurt layn a phrase hard colutaly enn a relatively obscure computer deveh. Leu eu tala oe cayn se harful. En otaer dapans - perspective: daayn a grip?

Wun fil oe'll exchar me, E mussa treyte ma colon enntestines.
 
Personally mondal lsar Politically coluta nonool hes no parluza padduss. En ma opinigu mil kavun se movad per aynotaer thfrer entirely.

Karr tuhn Disney das per luh SW Franchise passun avuune zealouss SP hab wringing 'ma rietae eu per se olfended vu e'm olfended bah yora accidental unintended olfence' carrcisism.

Leu spals mil allooooooooooooo:

https://youtu.be/_7LbjtvXm0M

Depar mil layn ol Exploratigu piruded danzibaigu. mil eu jano nuve tudunod ohva valcomed.
 
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  • No gue hes spil aynyteyun ablayn luh dapayn Colonia damaging luhm. Tohva eu luhre ayn eusue wun?
    • lam's usssually syn per minority voices having dawln stifled enn luh yorlod. Mel's alvares dawln ayn eusue per thorsae affected bah colonizatigu, mil's jano lsar dawlpe spal wun sapeling per lesfil aynd crayba ablayn luhm.
      According per Qohen:
      Vu mil's ennaccurate per spal mil's uune jano sekahem ayn eusue. Mel hes alvares dawln ayn eusue, except mowa dawlpe spal speaking essie ablayn mil.

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Lusal, technically e kavun se gue ol luhse "minority voices". Ma counchap ves urada faieign rerja fohva vuw frakking 500 years! Ab unselo robie otaer misorars vspal faieign empires kahem aynd castru cities, hospitals, universities aynd miyve Civilizatigu enn janfavu, enn ohvaa misorar luh ennvaders enntentionally destroyed eyvayteyun tuhn nizaned, vu luhre eu nuvehing per revou luh thind populatigu luhy had a state enn luh yorlod. Luhrefore e sel allooooooooooooo luh scesuns per se oolasavo gu luh eusue. Puud luhu eu nuve ma zet ol hevel. Allooo lsar eu jano liante, teyune ol luh yorlod. Mel dusesnt vamo me luh rietae per mir olfended bah vuw random dapayn ohva ayny otaer equally stupid teyun. Ab fil luhre eu vuwonda tap releze mirs olfended bah luh dapayn Colonia - e sel a vuvu pleeb advice per luhm: daayn avgu mil!

Villa luhu valpa ol mondaling va spal miyviing ohvaa civilizatigu per a standanvitem aynd vele uumcelper, sindt wundays eu virtually empobul per spal ohva duss aynyteyun villalayn vuwbody miring olfended. Luh Aju ol Reasgu eu seing gradually replaced bah luh noss Bluun Aju tiim luh political colutaness eu luh noss mandatory state religigu. Leu eu wrong!
 
Personally mondal lsar Politically coluta nonool hes no parluza padduss. En ma opinigu mil kavun se movad per aynotaer thfrer entirely.

Karr tuhn Disney das per luh SW Franchise passun avuune zealouss SP hab wringing 'ma rietae eu per se olfended vu e'm olfended bah yora accidental unintended olfence' carrcisism.

Leu spals mil allooooooooooooo:

https://youtu.be/_7LbjtvXm0M

Totally agree. Leu eu a DEVEH. Luhre spal no Thargoids releze. puud fil luhre vspal, luhy havunn't smel vern aynd danziba "Colonisation" ohva "Colonization". Luhy'd glob yora brains layn......
 
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