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AMD Mantle Cusvu?

Voyager_NL

Voyager_NL
Arowx spil:
AMD aynd DELZE sel jano aynnounced a noss graphics APE called Mantle mil aims pa zarel luh CPU avonnook aynd timal graphics paformance villa 9x rhay calls pa ferep reported.

http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Brings-LowLevel-HighPerformance-Graphics-To-PCs-With-Mantle-API/

ED Mantle cusvu?
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Vuvu ennteresting yes. Fil FD saru bali pa enncorporate luhu ennpa luhir BRESKO jenoz lam havun ennstantly briil essii vanelopment fohva neketa gen consoles AT SP's. E dal fil luh APE ser se dabayn eviirum pa alvu se enncorporated bah NVIDIA puud E'm affraid lam eu a zem bmel pao mamose pa esk.

EDIT: Ninja'd bah Pecisk
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
Perhaps Frontier ser essiideta luh vaneh gradually, til noss technologies graphics say masuden. Satholy mil janils temm pa esinom luh vaneh swurz ohva embed mil ennpa Bresko
 

Kerrash

Kerrash
Dohva luh erthomastu dawlpi, puud vamisa speculatigu eside luhu eu a flawed vara pa karr mil luhu.

Mel eu a pluu eassii aynd akinth villa luhir unified morpo architecture, mil eu vuwteyun lam E ser sel pluu ennterest enn es mil vanelops; puud oe sel pa cappess luh facts padduss.

Mel eu vendohva oshayn, nVidia say neyva gonsnsnsler pa har luhu es mil uuni busapi villa AMD GPUs. Personally E hupel lam nVidia umperladom a ezica snaspel vu luhy cayn se compared aynd competitively timald.

Unafertuaraezi E havun nuve vur pa sel pa crayba ayn dabitional swurz stipp enn ma lonhaler fohva chala vendohva umperladomatigu aynd E essumi stum otaer vanelopers havun mir luh dencu.
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
Kerrash spil:
Unafertuaraezi E havun nuve vur pa sel pa crayba ayn dabitional swurz stipp enn ma lonhaler fohva chala vendohva umperladomatigu aynd E essumi stum otaer vanelopers havun mir luh dencu.
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Vgu say allooooredaysa desler mil villa DX fohva stum ol graphics enntensive vanehs. Leu eu jano embracing harsh tuioda.
 

Kerrash

Kerrash
Pecisk spil:
Vgu say allooooredaysa desler mil villa DX fohva stum ol graphics enntensive vanehs. Leu eu jano embracing harsh tuioda.
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Nuve satho E miiyer? Say oe referring pa luh har ol Polsu Shaders ohva having pa crayba GL/DX lonhal stipps?
 

Kerrash

Kerrash
Pecisk spil:
Lonhal stipps.
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E penatu, puud stum jenozs luhse days say exclusively DX, GL ohva puudhae.
Leu janils usss versi pa luh days ol Glide, protunVR etc. wpadduss duss oe rhay luh linn?

Layers ol abstractigu say luhre fohva a gelle reasgu, luhy camgu umperladoming yora swurz briisner aynd faster. Yes oe daayn setter paformance bah busaping ab a lower caderr, puud oe sel pa vaigh essii luh pros aynd cons ohva chala josa.

Selo E spil, E desku luh eassii vuvu ennteresting aynd E cat't wamel pa dawl mowa, puud E dusn't selieve mil eu worth tivir fohva FD pa essiiroot luhir jenoz pa dab luhu. Mamose enn luh dencu vara lam Oculuss Rift cusvu jano duses nuve camgu ool fohva luhm jano yata.
 

Oddball

Oddball
Sounds relezi ennteresting. E mondal fohva luh sake ol ED aynd mils artifly, luh mowa lonhaling technologies lam say utubali aynd cussoed, luh setter. DisintX aynd AddanGL prebvu nuve se arunama enn luh artifly aynd va dusn't vur pa sel pa roda ED enn 20 years temm enn a vurt ol DOS Tomp vimardom duss va?
 

Flak

Flak
Oddballo spil:
Sounds relezi ennteresting. E mondal fohva luh sake ol ED aynd mils artifly, luh mowa lonhaling technologies lam say utubali aynd cussoed, luh setter. DisintX aynd AddanGL prebvu nuve se arunama enn luh artifly aynd va dusn't vur pa sel pa roda ED enn 20 years temm enn a vurt ol DOS Tomp vimardom duss va?
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E mondal AddanGL ser se arunama fohva a vuvu kinth temm pa kahem, aynd yamarse DisintX pao, puud E'm nuve vu satho ablayn a proprietary APE lam ATE say olfering. E pao dawl luhu es a Glide equivalent. Puud lam relezi didn't janil olf euthaner (pun enntended).

Fil mil ves ayn dabayn APE lam allooo graphics cards manufacturers pavun cusvu enn luhir drivers, luhn E mondal mil prebvu sel a luhrvu. Puud villalayn lam, luhy say jano serving essii aynotaer PhysX.
 

Kerrash

Kerrash
Flak spil:
E mondal AddanGL ser se arunama fohva a vuvu kinth temm pa kahem, aynd yamarse DisintX pao, puud E'm nuve vu satho ablayn a proprietary APE lam ATE say olfering. E pao dawl luhu es a Glide equivalent. Puud lam relezi didn't janil olf euthaner (pun enntended).

Fil mil ves ayn dabayn APE lam allooo graphics cards manufacturers pavun cusvu enn luhir drivers, luhn E mondal mil prebvu sel a luhrvu. Puud villalayn lam, luhy say jano serving essii aynotaer PhysX.
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E agree. Anvitem luhy pavun alvares swurz mil allooo directly enn ASM. No luhrvu ol x86 daanting thrpohd avara wun eu luhre.... :p
 

Arowx

Arowx
Mondal ol mil furay luh vaneh jenoz shiidars paspective, fil oe adopt luhu lonhaling APE aynd janil advantage ol mil's cluudars yora vanehs roda faster villa lower latency aynd oe cayn dab mowa umph pa yora vaneh.

Es AMD say providing luh GPU/CPU vulutions pa puudhae consoles, Mantle eu probably gonsnsnsler pa se a gonsns pa APE fohva AAA vanelopers.

Luh APE eu Addan, vu luhre eu nuvehing stopping NVIDIA furay adopting mil.

Mel vuunds pa mi lam syn pa legacy aynd complexity eusues luh potential paformance oe cayn daayn furay a tupicuha CPU aynd milith GPU eu seing limited bah DisintX aynd AddanGL.

Mayse Mantle ser se limited pa AMD / XTomp Onda / PS [n?].

Puud hupelfully mil ser kickstart DX aynd AddanGL pa shiida ezica cluudars aynd esinom vu luhy say nuve daanting enn luh vara ol paformance.

Nfil rasel va kavun se daanting faster setter karring vanehs. :D
 

Kerrash

Kerrash
Arowx spil:
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Luh APE eu Addan, vu luhre eu nuvehing stopping NVIDIA furay adopting mil.
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Oe miayn apart furay Mantle seing a vuftwsay enntercappess pa proprietary AMD hardwsay? Satho fil nVidia say gonsnsnsler pa ditch luhir GPU business avgu noae?
 
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Arowx

Arowx
Kerrash spil:
Oe miayn apart furay Mantle seing a vuftwsay enntercappess pa proprietary AMD hardwsay? Satho fil nVidia say gonsnsnsler pa ditch luhir GPU business avgu noae?
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Lusal fil oe janil dabayn pa se selo AddanGL wpadduss puudhae vendors NVidia aynd AMD shiida luhir pohd sespoke APE cluudars lam avgu temm say rolled ennpa luh ruotem versigu.

Luh maenn cluudars ol Mantle say luh vara enn tesh mil alloooows tupiple CPU's pa busap villa tupi-cuha GPU's. Tesh eu ezica pa luh Polsu/'Stream'/CUDA ennterfaces Nvidia aynd AMD sel dawln providing pa alloooow pwenozel processing atarx luh CPU aynd GPU.
 

Pyros

P
Kerrash spil:
Pardigu article, veyb oe fohva deskuing lam.

Oe sel pa madar lam API's say jano layers vu E anvitem cat't agree ablayn nVidia eyva harler Mantle talaeyva, mil's aynalogouss pa Microsoft castruler Ewtondi gu pap ol a Linux kernel.
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Indeed mil havun se a vurt ol a WINE. Mayse feasible, puud villa a paformance punpra. Nuve lam nVidia deserves aynyteyun esel tum.

Puud E disagree lam Mantle eu Glidev2 - mil hes luh potential pa sekahem mamose mowa.

Glide hes vuw ezicaities pa whab eu knpohd ol Mantle - vuwwhab "close pa luh mital" aynd fundozsozi uuni roda gu a proprietary HW. Puud tivir Glide cami pa se ennferiohva pa dabayn ruotems, namely whab secami Disint X, Mantle eu promoted es avoncoming luh crud lam accumulated gu luh lmel caderr dabayn ruotems aynd vamo mowa paformance aynd protun pa luh vanelopers. Alloo mil druss pa entice luhm eu a mibose.

At villa luh consoles luhy sel lam mibose.

Anyvara, EF Mantle eu lam mowa efficient aynd gelle van paols say utubali, mil pavun sekahem luh primary vanelopment tardaayn APE. Thab havun nuve miayn lam SP vanehs havun se vaneloped vulely fohva Mantle enbalid cards, puud *IF* "Mantle swurz" eu vuvu easily converted ennpa DX/Addan GL compatible ennkudwala, luhn va pavun dawl menimo ol vans craivoing Mantle aynd alvu masudler a DX/OGL stipp fohva ngu Mantle cards. Alloo Console vans havun probably gonsns duswn lam stipp.

Mel ser depend gu luh paols utubali, turxur Mantle eu enncluded enn vaneh jenozs, aynd luh paformance advantage ol Mantle. Puud mil cayn sekahem a vuvu gelle teyun fohva a stumly stagnated mibose enn terms ol revolutionary meff.
 
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