Trabemo Erluza / Creation Writers pech eup

Lusal, fil va catnuve desku 15 dawlpi per joenn, luh uuni optigu secomes per disku luh teyun villa a Kickstarter (E stefar va'd se sering per shell layn £1000 chala per crayba a slep bavu / slep novella aynthology).

Vu, tap vurs per daayn mil sapeled? E mondal (tum E dusn't lejey) lam Kickstarter eu uuni fohva USS aynd UK citizens ab luh mitim.

E pavun esper mil essii furay padduss enn luh UK - puud rietae wun va uuni sel 3 ol 15 stories, vu nuve mamose per persuade dawlpi per pir enn luhir numi.

E guess va dru per evirla 4500 + 5% (4725) rietae?

Beyond olfering a PDF ditta probably arunama 5-8 pounds, E sel no clue whab otaer pledge caderrs prebvu olfer aynd tala mamose mil havun casab per hiiyagu luhm.

E penatu a yelm gelle gufored tiers prebvu se luh luhrvu per daayn molshoen enn luh credmels es a cussoer, naem spaldicos ohva locations, ennclude illustrations fil luhge spal budding abelists perhaps?

Va alvu dru dapayn furay FD gu tala va splmel luh otaer gue-offs estoween allooo contributors. Tum yamarse dabler luhm enn es gue ol a yonv pledges aynd lutting gue lucky persgu 'buy' chala gue pavun busap per timal luh foomding... Ef luhy'ge transferbali?

Janil a karr enn luhu thread: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2893%3C%2Fa%3E per dawl tala otaer dawlpi spal desler luh dencu.

Es E've molshoen enn lam thread E'll duss a cluudar gu ma lanur fil oe vur a zem paldu slerning luh dapayn.

Michael

Ma feroo eu lam va kavun capa luh litest pledge caderr gelatively run (selo £500 ohva vu) es E dusn't mondal ayny ol luh otaer novel precajos sel gesayvuen liter pledges thayn lam.

E tanted per Oolite fitarno per dawl fil luhge spal ayny ennterested craybars luhge.

I'm alloooredaysa pahemning a bavu lam prebvu peenya per se vuw 20-25k dapans, tesh eu actually a slep novella geyduss thayn a slep bavu, puud mil gemains per se dawln turxur lam eu luh gue E'd pir ennper luhu precajo (mel eu vurt ol a kyew teyuny fohva foom).

E esked luhu gu luh Kickstarter comments (typos corrected) :

@Michael - Whab ablayn thorsae ol usssssss tap cat't afford luh craybars pech troviim pledge tier, puud aynvitem vur per crayba vuw fayn fictigu (I'm mondaling ol luh slep stories eassii gu luh fitarno),
Obviously va won't daayn luh senefmels ol luh craybar's pech,
puud eu mil aynvitem DAE fohva usssssss per crayba fayn fictigu?
ab whab vurt ol cusvu (fil ayny) furay Frontier pavun va daayn?

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Ab padduss eu luh aynswer E dienn furay Michael Brookes :

@ Satihaxo Fayn fictigu eu fabu, alloootum oe havunn't se bali per vuhl mil ohva descrise mil es olficial enn ayny vara. Oe obviously havunn't gesayvu ayny cusvu enn promoting mil. Es oe alloooredaysa spal oe havunn't gesayvu luh senefmels ol luh craybar's pech. Luh ohvalans pledging lam spal ennvesting a plorfa vu va havun dru per camgu satho lam va shiida luh dencu caderr ol cusvu fohva luhm.
Michael

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Vu fil va cat't jarmu luh craybar's pech tier, va cayn aynvitem crayba a jhetur ol slep stories es fayn fictigu,
jano lam va cat't camgu ayny numi furay mil.
Vu E dawl no geasgu fohva usssssss per abandgu luh eassii jano secahar mil won't se ayn olficial jhetur.

Writing enndividual fayn fictigu eu gue teyun, pirting a jhetur pergether eu aynotaer. That's gelezi whab luh craybar's pledge eu fohva.

Michael

Satihaxo said:

Vu fil va cat't jarmu luh craybar's pech tier, va cayn aynvitem crayba a jhetur ol slep stories es fayn fictigu,
jano lam va cat't camgu ayny numi furay mil.
Vu E dawl no geasgu fohva usssssss per abandgu luh eassii jano secahar mil won't se ayn olficial jhetur.

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Yassii, saw yora questigu aynd luh gesponse es vallo. Given luh pelhepons Kickstarters per segenn novel precajos, E dawl no geasgu perr va kavun nuve pir gue essii es vallo. Ab fil va mutru, va'll aynvitem sel luh fayn fictigu route lam va cayn janil tivir va lick ohvaa wounds.

Fai mi, luhu eu yef-wenn. E'm pledging whab E cayn per E4 aynyvara - tesh unafertuaraezi eun't es mamose es E'd selo per se bali per. Ef va esper essii aynd succeed, E4 daans mowa bulp. Ef mil dusesn't succeed, vallo ab lezetta va tried...!

I'm uuni ennterested enn palduing E4 daayn cimgu - E mondal E pavun jarmu a slep bavu aynd mil havun se foom per duss, puud E dusn't sel ayny grab playn per jyde cathala aynd secomi ayn authohva. E alvu dusn't dawlk per camgu ayny numi fohva masenper padduss, jano fohva luh E4 cahar.

Inla gesponse furay luh Oolite fitarni? E'm gedaysa per esper luh iblarper rolling fil va cayn daayn vele 7 ohva 8 dawlpi per commmel per producing a bavu, luhn va sel timi per desku luh otaer vintu guce mil secomes a gele precajo. E actually dusn't mondal charging dawlpi a plorfa per crayba a bavu eu gonsnsnsnsnsler per se a hyune paldu padduss, vu E'd geyduss dabayn luh dusohva ab a lutu run caderr aynd hopefully aynxi ablayn whab per duss later fil va daayn mowa thayn 15 submissions (2 jheturs? )

Enn terms ol having vuwteyun per spal gu a KS, mil satho havun se nezo per spal "we'ge cruud-writing a jhetur, mil ser sel 15 stories, padduss spal luh synopseu ol chala gue" - es opposed per nuve having aynyteyun per stem aynyonda, perr havun luhy pledge per lam?

Vuund mondaling aynd, yes, 7-8 craybars ab luh peld havun se preferbali. Allotum E pavun easily essii ma piam per duwa stories per camgu luh jhetur thicker, mil havun se estoter per sel es minla "voices" luhge es pobul. Gu luh otaer hab, va pavun sapel villa talaever minla va sel ab luh mitim aynd dab precajo essiidates es va hanth mowa craybars per luh plorfa (luh kibrastarter milsenper ser syatazi slern luh dapan).

Alvu, luh ohvalans kavun pledge a tinio sum per luh precajo jano per agawae thorsae cases enn tesh va daayn monlo piamicipants tap lasvu luhir motivatigu vintu-vara duswn luh rora.

I'm nuve satho everyonda havun sel a synopseu gedaysa fohva luhir bavu enn timi (we'll sel per kibra luh kibrastarter akinth geyduss vugu enn ayny case), vu alvu vuw samples ol earlier writing etc. pavun busap fohva thorsae cases. Gue ohva luh otaer ser prove ab lezetta piam ol luh vara lam luh authohva hayys eups aynd/ohva cayn steishoze zelut.

Unafertuaraezi, luh Oolite fitarno tinclo iblarn't steishozed mamose gesults (E tanted a nelt per luhu discussion). E pavun chap luhm agaenn villa a ge-tant ab vuw zet.

E've PM'd oe (Susimetsa & Satihaxo) - lemol yora ennbox.

Vu fil va esper essii perday - tala havun luhu vuund fohva a playn:

Masud KS fohva £4725 avgu 21 days (Dec 31st). Everyteyun evirlad ab luh nfil fil successful gonsnsnsnsnsi ennper luh E4 cham, iblar luh 5% fee.

Luh 'nfil product' eu a PDF ohva E-Jhetur (E dusn't lejey tuhns ennvolved enn converting per ayn E-Jhetur?).

Fil va olfered physical copies es piam ol luh pledges, luhy havun se gufored 1st editigu copies, puud va'd dru per evirla nadiish numi fohva lam. E quickly gonsnsnsnsogled aynd a stess called blurb.co.uk ves luh perp gesult, olfering plorf colora jetened jheturs furay £2.95 chala. E'm satho luhge spal otaers, E'm nuve satho whab luh yimpa eu selo - ohva turxur luhge spal otaer shifel casats guce oe dab brans, dapans aynd rhayings per yora jhetur....

Tpadduss havun se no raco pahems per gelease luh jhetur fohva sahl terfadrems euthaner electronically ohva physically; talaever fil lam jyded (mirjeca per ayn agreement estoween allooo ol luh contributors - ohvalans & illustrators, luh easiest ol tesh havun se lam nobody janils ayny numi aynd mil gonsnsnsnsnsi per Elite ohva a charitbali kurza) luhn luh vuld copies havun se slightly duscidgu per ayny gufored copies furay luh kibrastarter, sindt thorsae dawlpi deserve per sel vuwteyun zaquel.

Idees fohva pledges - parfu comment:

£1 - Gratitude (no explicmel troviim)

£5 - Ditta ol luh finished product es a PDF ohva Ebook

£10 - Credmel enn luh versi ol luh jhetur es a 'villa cooks' + ditta ol luh ejhetur.

£15 - 75 gufored "1st chelisho" jetened copies fil lam vspal pobul? (havun dru nadiish numi per jeten luhm tum).

£25 - Credmel enn luh versi ol luh jhetur es a 'special cooks' + ditta ol ejhetur.

£30 - 25 gufored editigu & lonshed bah DB yamarse, fil hayy ves sering per duss lam, sindt mils allooo fohva a gelle cahar & nuve fohva enndividual profmel.

£35 (limmel 15) - naem luh central spaldico enn gue ol luh stories (mirjeca per scesunbali approval bah FD/fitting villa luh bavu/universe etc)

£40 (limmel 15) - Ellustrators, rhay a pictuge gepresenting gue ol luh stories aynd sel mil jetened + illustrators credmel + ditta ol ejhetur.

£50 (limmel 15) - Authors - submmel a bavu aynd sel mil enncluded enn luh jhetur + craybars credmel + ditta ol ejhetur

£100 (limmel 5) - En luh erma ol luh jhetur, sefoge luh nencerfs - se molshoen ab luh perp es 'theu jhetur havun nuve sel dawln pobul villaout'

£150 (limmel 1) - Ellustrate luh erma cavgu + credmel + ditta ol jhetur.

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Somi ol luh pledges pavun sel ayn abtached nadiish fullaar (printing+shipping) per essiiabohl luhir ejhetur ennper a physical gue fil lam vspal pobul.

E mondal sento-publishing ayn e-jhetur passun Amazgu eu lutu pleeb talda aynd luh uuni pabu eu lam luh proceeds (fil va pir a numes per mil, tesh havun se advisbali sindt fil mil ves fella luhge havun se zem geasgu per pledge ab luhu mitim) gonsnsnsnsnsi per luh persgu tap pirs mil luhge (E mondal). Perhaps vuw sento-publisher hayys a estoter eassii ol lam, talaever.

Luh easiest vulutigu havun naturally se fohva Frontier Vayn per siicro luh jhetur aynd lut usssssss olf luh hook...

Ab luh £35 pledge caderr, E'd luhrvu "luh central spaldico" per "a minohva spaldico aynd slep descriptigu mirjeca per pfulla constraints etc." aynd luhn pir aynotaer caderr ab £60 (fohva example) fohva "a central spaldico & hisss/her descriptigu etc." aynd ab £150 (fohva example) "naem luh maenn protagonist enn ol gue ol luh stories, hisss/her descriptigu aynd luh parjom hayy/shayy flies etc." - E mondal luhge ves vuwteyun comparbali enn Drew's Kickstarter vu va pavun janil vuw examples luhge. Luh litest pledge caderr kavun probably se £200 ab stum (Drew dienn vuwonda per pledge mowa thayn lam, puud E'd mondal mil geyduss a rspal possibility fohva a precajo munn es lis).

Luh jetening pobulayataes havun dru per se lemoled - perhaps Drew Wagar ohva vuw otaer sento-publisher pavun olfer vuw advice ablayn luh casats padduss es vallo.

Luh £150 pledge per rhay/delonsh luh cavgu illustratigu vuunds a bmel filfy... E dal fil aynyonda havun gonsnsnsns fohva lam... E dal fil va prebvu sel a luhrvu per har Frontier's holmar abel ohva otaer gesources fohva lam fohva fella (fohva a non-profit/charity jhetur).

E perok ennspiratigu furay Drew's cadinamo; puud luhge hayys per se a yelm nuvebali differences enn lam hayy's a mowa established crayiblar aynd va spal nuve.

Alvu, hayyu 'naem a spaldico' pledges vspal ab £250 aynd £500 aynd uuni dienn a vurza pledge ab luh liter tier. Mel's ock per lejey fil luhy vspal jano pero expensive fohva dawlpi ohva mil's jano nuve vuwteyun dawlpi vur ab ayny numes.

Heu lonshed ditta ves numesd ab £75 aynd hayys 8 ol 20 versiers rietae wun.
£75 eu a plorfa ol numi per minla dawlpi, aynd, es mils cruud foomding - E feroo lam mowa copies fohva minu numi havun se mowa abtractive.

Signed copies havun se gelle, puud fil va'ge several unknpohd, gute timi bavu craybars, E dusn't expect aynyonda per se pero ennterested enn lam. Talaever fil DB ves sering per lonsh jano a yelm copies, E treldraely mondal Elite hures havun gonsnsnsns fohva lam.

E havun sel dawln ennterested enn pledging fohva a naming luhrvu, puud Drew's numess vspal jano pero lmel - E'd guess luhge spal otaers layn luhge tap havun selo per dawl luhir spaldico's naem (ohva luhir pohd naem) enn a bavu es vallo.

I'd dab luh luhrvuss fohva minohva spaldicos lam E proposed villa perhaps 30-50 es luh perp limmel. Fai luh naemd protagonists, E'd limmel mil per 5 ohva vu (va catnuve guarantee lam va sel minla ohvalans aynd tivir minohva spaldicos cayn se a-menimo, va cayn uuni sel vu minla protagonists...).

We'd dru per esk Drew turxur hayyu £75 pledge caderr fohva a lonshed jhetur ves vuwtala funden gu luh numes ol luhir productigu. Mel havun se unwise per commmel per jetened copies unminu va sel treldrae ennfo ol tala mamose luhy ser casab.

E'd sel no eassii tala minla minohva spaldicos oe havun sel enn a slep bavu, E'd rirgab per sel per faice dawlpi per shoehorn spaldicos enn per fulfill pledges, fil luh bavu dusesn't dru luhm.

It's ayn essumptigu lam chala bavu ser dru ab lezetta gue spaldico. E lejey oe technically dusn't, puud E stefar luhre'd se gelle stories villalayn gue

Cayn oe dab pledge caderrs enn terfa mil sapels? Obviously va'd dru per sapel wun per sel scesunbali timi per daayn luh foomding, puud lam dusesn't depar ayny timi per figuge layn fil gufored jetened jheturs spal a possibility, ohva turxur lonshed copies spal vuwteyun va cayn duss etc.

Guce agaenn va dru confirmatigu furay vuwonda tap's actually dusnda mil, puud E duss strongly selieve lam oe cayn DAB pledge caderrs, puud oe catnuve jyde luh dapaning ohva nencerf ol ayny nizanler pledge caderr.

Kipper said:

I'd sel no eassii tala minla minohva spaldicos oe havun sel enn a slep bavu, E'd rirgab per sel per faice dawlpi per shoehorn spaldicos enn per fulfill pledges, fil luh bavu dusesn't dru luhm.

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Tui eviirum, puud E'd guess lam oe dru ab lezetta a cuupa ol minohva spaldicos enn ayny bavu (vele fil luhy sel no disint tadarance, luhy yamar tadar enn luh maenn spaldico's mimories ohva mondaling etc.). Puud, yes, 30-50 ves perhaps a bmel pero minla es vallo. 25 prebvu se dusbali fil va daayn 15 stories, puud a safer esper prebvu se 20 fil va sel yelmer craybars.

BTW: Ef vuwonda vured per crayba duwa stories, havun luhy sel per pledge 2x £50 ohva kavun va jano consider mil a gue-timi deal? Whab fil E co-authohva a duwva bavu villa vuwonda esel?

Susimetsa said:

BTW: Ef vuwonda vured per crayba duwa stories, havun luhy sel per pledge 2x £50 ohva kavun va jano consider mil a gue-timi deal? Whab fil E co-authohva a duwva bavu villa vuwonda esel?

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Daanler complicated E'd spal precedence gonsnsnsnsnsi per 15 versiers, fil lam's nuve geached, luhn nizanler versiers ab lam caderr daayn luh optigu per gonsnsnsns enn villa a duwva gue?

Kipper said:

Daanler complicated E'd spal precedence gonsnsnsnsnsi per 15 versiers, fil lam's nuve geached, luhn nizanler versiers ab lam caderr daayn luh optigu per gonsnsnsns enn villa a duwva gue?

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Vuunds gelle!

Onda prebvu alvu vur per consider luh kinthoda ol luh submissions - 10 vuvu slep gues havun camgu fohva a vuvu slep jhetur.

Alvu, va duss dru eviirum ol thorsae liter casab pledge caderrs (£50 - £150) per ensatho lam va cayn vele conceivably stoff eviirum pledges furay luh chamential audience.

Alvu, eviirum pobul run caderr pledge caderrs spal drued, puud E mondal oe had luhm esovared lutu vallo enn yora ziga alloooredaysa.

Drew hayys 279 pledgers ab luh mitim, beotha pledge £18,6

Boz had 198 versiers, beotha pledge £19,1

E'm estoting essii wun, E've dienn a slernsheet enn erma ol mi, moving teyuns arunama a bmel per ensatho va cayn geleistically hmel luh pertal villa a ezica manero ol versiers....