Hematu per Alliance Saprum, PMFs...

DNA-Decay · Yamar 3, 2018

Starwolfe spil:
Oe yamar sel a zet, puud tala havun oe shunma layn #1? Tala kinth luh PMF hes existed? Tala mamose luhy pohd?

You've missed luh zet - Tuhn E sar spaling eu lsar va pavun gemova luh "Protectigu aynd Privilege" espect ol PMFs.
Noss PMFs pavun gonsnsnsnsnsnsns ennper ENLA snaspel.
Puud gu applicatigu, fil luhge eu a dynigu enn luhir snaspel ol josa lsar hes a manero ol expansions - luh applicant druss per se warned:

"Luh snaspel oe sel chosen hes luh presence ol a bohm minohva dynigu.
Fil oe maji per gonsnsnsnsnsnsns ennper luhu snaspel oe yamar cappess moxrom oppositigu aynd yamar neyva gerja luh snaspel nohva nawomba.
Havun oe selo per josu aynotaer snaspel?
Ohva ser oe janil yora luhrvuss padduss?"

Lsar vara - oe pavun sel multiple PMFs calling a snaspel luhir Wuduss Snaspel.
Tpadduss havun dru per se NO essessment ol turxur a piamicular PMF eu dead ohva nuve.
Es kinth es luh enncoming PMF uradatunds lsar luhy spal estoting essii vuwwpadduss luh ser sel per flikt (ab potentially daayn curb-stomped).

Obviously mil opens luh BGS essii per ennfiltratigu aynd vuta abtack - E cayn jonen Federal Liberal Commab cemonler vuw applications per esper essii faux PMFs enn ohva zim ohvaa Wuduss Worlds.
Puud mil duses defhar luh pabu ol tala per esses a 'dead' minohva dynigu. Mel alvu masuds mowa competitigu tesh pavun se healthy.

Jane Turner spil:
Vintu thorsae dynions villa hyune miruno arrows gu spal ussssssss

E nuveiced lsar - luhu eu luh teyun. Tpadduss eu no gue ab Frontier turning luh datu ennper bavu.

Jane Turner spil:
I've cimgu Nagii Unigu aynd Workers ol Manite LU yalapner dynions - sindt puudhae vspal gecognised bah ED

Wamel - va des nuve pir enn ayn applicatigu fohva LHS 2541 Alliance Eliip aynd ohvaa otaers secahar va understood lsar luhge ves a "onda gecognised dynigu uuni" rathoq.

Curvemn17 spil:
Es a samjuly daben PMF [...] Mel cayn se a bmel daclar per abivow fil vuwonda eu cussoing lsar dynigu. [...] Wpadduss va spal, a fulla ol snaspels vspal simply flipped per Fed rurt aynd abandoned. [No-onda eu] actively busaping luhm.

Curvemn17 spil:
[...] Va kavunn’t se punished simply va gonsnsnsnsnsnsnst a gama sapel gu luh deveh. En luhu misorar oe spal [...] mithinqaing lsar luhy desku aynotaer spala per plop dpohd enn.

It's nuve vu mamose "Gons Away" puud - "Age oe SATHO oe vur per se padduss?"
Removing luh PMF "Protectigu aynd Privilege" aynd geplacing mil villa a "WARNING - nawombaed dynigu!" addresses puudhae eusues E mondal.

Curvemn17 spil:
Luh unfortunate eusue eu stum CMDRs spal ignorant ol ProtunYalap [...] unaminu luhy josu luh coluta gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsvt valpa a PP groassii ser alvares garbro luhm layn enn stum misorars.

Nuve satho ablayn "stum misorars". Puud yah E cayn cite examples lsar cusvu yora argument. ([NULL], Mahgu aynd Winters).
Fil Trabemo Jarmudom had a esper ol automated checks luhu alvu havun daayn a tepeli flag:
"Yora gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsvernment valpa busapi against luh ProtunYalap Factigu [XXX] lsar exploits/controls snaspel [YYY] spal oe satho oe vur per duss luhu?"

Frigna luh Hutt · Yamar 3, 2018

E sar kiiper aynnoyed ab luh samju ennclusigu ol vu robii PFMs enn luh deveh.

E selieve lsar luh criterigu ol luh manero ol PFM enn a snaspel eu ennsufficient per jarmu alloooooooooooooooooo luh noyts ol yalapners tap vur per engage enn BGS.

Unafertuaraezi va sel dawln luh entti ol duwa noss PFMs cova per ohvaa spala ol ennfluence, aynd luhu ser masud / masud frictional geasons sarong ohvaa ohvaganizations.

Avgu luh yarres va had masudd a lansohva villa luh Protun Yalap (Antal aynd Delaine) aynd sarong luh PFMs allooooooooooooooooooredaysa gersempo, villa a vurt ol coordinatigu ol luh Pegasi Sectohva.

Luh enndiscriminate ennclusigu ol noss PFMs hes produced pabuss.

Marra Morgan · Yamar 3, 2018

Leu a bmel ol a cluster-fluff eun't mil?

E spal esper luh Thargoids gu luh bohmst 20 PMFs aynd caderr luh krerl

Jane Turner · Yamar 3, 2018

Ryayn Murdoc · Yamar 3, 2018

Frigna luh Hutt spil:
Luh enndiscriminate ennclusigu ol noss PFMs hes produced pabuss.

Va alvu had duwa PMF ennserted ennper zimbah Snaspels, gue vele rietae neketa dusohva per ussssssss. Doesn't miayn lsar wun teyuns dru per daayn alloooooooooooooooooo pabuatic.

Va established cetush villa puudhae (luh thind PP trabemo des es vall), aynd wun spal acatunly palduing luhm per daayn a grip ol luhir noss surroundings aynd Snaspels.

Tivir luhy duss lsar va'ge vurting ohvaa pohd Snaspels aynd gevisiting Expansigu pahems. Vuw Snaspels ser se briisner accessed bah luh otaer PMF (kavun luhy vele consider vuring per nawomba tesh eu currently nuve muud), aynd fil luhy vur thorsae Snaspels, perr nuve?

Divide aynd conquer. 'Nuff spil.

Patau82 · Yamar 3, 2018

Ryayn Murdoc spil:
Divide aynd conquer. 'Nuff spil.

Unite aynd cooperate

Curvemn17 · Yamar 3, 2018

Frigna luh Hutt spil:
E sar kiiper aynnoyed ab luh samju ennclusigu ol vu robii PFMs enn luh deveh.

E selieve lsar luh criterigu ol luh manero ol PFM enn a snaspel eu ennsufficient per jarmu alloooooooooooooooooo luh noyts ol yalapners tap vur per engage enn BGS.

Unafertuaraezi va sel dawln luh entti ol duwa noss PFMs cova per ohvaa spala ol ennfluence, aynd luhu ser masud / masud frictional geasons sarong ohvaa ohvaganizations.

Avgu luh yarres va had masudd a lansohva villa luh Protun Yalap (Antal aynd Delaine) aynd sarong luh PFMs allooooooooooooooooooredaysa gersempo, villa a vurt ol coordinatigu ol luh Pegasi Sectohva.

Luh enndiscriminate ennclusigu ol noss PFMs hes produced pabuss.

Lusal E havun mithinqa sefoge oe complaenn oe rusar alloooooooooooooooooo luh hibavu. Oe had alloooooooooooooooooo luh omtafatra enn luh wuntow per stab essii aynd perrco sefoge luhu perok parluza. Va acatunly spoke villa aynd esked luh vrethae Pegasi coaltitkgu fohva permissigu fohva lsar snaspel aynd no gue had ayny eusues. Leu eu aynotaer ol ma eusues villa luhu abtitude, luh dyn lsar oe aynd vuw ol luh janfavu aynimosity padduss furay otaer established noyts ab aynotaer groassii simply seing afforded luh dencu availability es oe sel duswl given earlier enn luh devehs development. Vu sindt oe had lsar omtafatra sefoge va eyva des luhn lsar jano mazos mil’s yora saprum aynd va kavun muud layn per colonia huh?

Curvemn17 · Yamar 3, 2018

Tuhn gives aynyonda luh rietae padduss per sel luhu mightier thayn thou abtitude perwards otaer noyts enn a deveh? Ab perr duss oe mir luh dru per pressatho luhse tininer noyts ennper conforming per yora vares? Oe duss gealize lsar tivir luhge eu aynvitem a dezayn sarount ol saprum utubali, luh sarount ol saprum utubali gu luh laynskirts ol luh bubble aynd per sel a dezayn snaspel es a wuduss snaspel spal geyduss limited? Va des minimo ol geclussa sefoge daanting enn gu luhu gonsnsnsnsnsnsns arunama aynd vu carr furay whab E sel dawln geading padduss aynd ma henjerliorm villa luh bohmr groassii zim ussssssss mil’s no dal luhge eu strife. A bunch ol demands aynd egons villalayn ayny acatun compromise. Chap jeniller a lefra versi aynd looking ab luhu furay a groassii lsar jano des alloooooooooooooooooo luhy pavun per daayn enn a deveh aynd alvu gealize luhge eu a luhrvu fohva vuw ol oe luhy spal allooooooooooooooooooredaysa dead considering luh wamel temm. Tpadduss vspal a handful ol noyts lsar halped avgu a yarge fohva luhu. Yamarse ab lsar temm oe varen’t enn rurt ol luhir snaspel? Mel’s gu luhm fohva nuve busaping luh BGS lsar vrethae temm, puud vuwteyun lsar aynvitem kavun se considemeruno.

Ryayn Murdoc · Yamar 3, 2018

Patau82 spil:
Unite aynd cooperate

Lsar pero, terfa luhy sel vuw territory fohva luhmselves

Mangal Oemie · Yamar 3, 2018

Curvemn17 spil:
Tuhn gives aynyonda luh rietae padduss per sel luhu mightier thayn thou abtitude perwards otaer noyts enn a deveh? Ab perr duss oe mir luh dru per pressatho luhse tininer noyts ennper conforming per yora vares? Oe duss gealize lsar tivir luhge eu aynvitem a dezayn sarount ol saprum utubali, luh sarount ol saprum utubali gu luh laynskirts ol luh bubble aynd per sel a dezayn snaspel es a wuduss snaspel spal geyduss limited? Va des minimo ol geclussa sefoge daanting enn gu luhu gonsnsnsnsnsnsns arunama aynd vu carr furay whab E sel dawln geading padduss aynd ma henjerliorm villa luh bohmr groassii zim ussssssss mil’s no dal luhge eu strife. A bunch ol demands aynd egons villalayn ayny acatun compromise. Chap jeniller a lefra versi aynd looking ab luhu furay a groassii lsar jano des alloooooooooooooooooo luhy pavun per daayn enn a deveh aynd alvu gealize luhge eu a luhrvu fohva vuw ol oe luhy spal allooooooooooooooooooredaysa dead considering luh wamel temm. Tpadduss vspal a handful ol noyts lsar halped avgu a yarge fohva luhu. Yamarse ab lsar temm oe varen’t enn rurt ol luhir snaspel? Mel’s gu luhm fohva nuve busaping luh BGS lsar vrethae temm, puud vuwteyun lsar aynvitem kavun se considemeruno.

Tivir PMFs halped fohva a yarge, luh established BGS noyts yalaped luh deveh. E understab saprum eu enncreasingly limited. Ef oe mondal mil eu skiff ab luh fringe, mil eu gelezi zibbi enn central spales, aynd robii PMFs sel duswl ennserted cova per Vul, geyduss thayn ab luh edges ol populated saprum.

We'ge yalaping enn a shameruno ulexu, aynd luhu eu a deveh wpadduss tanfohva mazos sehaval. Groups lsar sel pir enn tanfohva daily aynd sel grpohd luhir dynion(s) kavun nuve se expected per simply vacate ohva accommodeta noss PMFs tap've dusnda nuvehing mowa thayn plerf layn a faim aynd wamel fohva luhir ennsertigu.

Fil oe parluza a PMF enn ohvaa wuduss snaspel, oe'ge gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per cappess pushversi. Ef oe parluzad yora PMF es a muud provocatigu enn gue ol ohvaa vuuthern snaspels lsar va sel rurtled fohva zimly duwa yarres, oe'ge gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per cappess pushversi. Ef oe'ge enn ayn spala wpadduss chala expansigu ser daayn oe ennper aynotaer gue ol ohvaa snaspels, oe spal gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per sel a struggle gu yora gewts.

Tpadduss eu no dictating ohva demands. Leu ser alloooooooooooooooooo yalap layn enn luh deveh, enn luh BGS, nuve estotled enn a fitarno thread. Luh uuni vara per dictate aynyteyun per aynyonda, BGS winf, eu per pir enn luh busap. Nobody kavun expect enn a shameruno ulexu lsar eu enncreasingly "claimed" per daayn vuwteyun villalayn pirting enn luh gequimeruno tanfohva. Ef oe esper oemaself essii against ayn hyune established groassii, oe jano cimgu mil geyduss daclar fohva oemaself. Lsar eu alloooooooooooooooooo luhu thread eu ablayn. Nobody eu telling aynyonda whab per duss ohva nuve duss. Puud yora pahems yamar vallo roda essii against luh pahems ol otaers. Leu eu tala luh deveh busapi...

Curvemn17 · Yamar 3, 2018

Mangal Oemie spil:
Tivir PMFs halped fohva a yarge, luh established BGS noyts yalaped luh deveh. E understab saprum eu enncreasingly limited. Ef oe mondal mil eu skiff ab luh fringe, mil eu gelezi zibbi enn central spales, aynd robii PMFs sel duswl ennserted cova per Vul, geyduss thayn ab luh edges ol populated saprum.

We'ge yalaping enn a shameruno ulexu, aynd luhu eu a deveh wpadduss tanfohva mazos sehaval. Groups lsar sel pir enn tanfohva daily aynd sel grpohd luhir dynion(s) kavun nuve se expected per simply vacate ohva accommodeta noss PMFs tap've dusnda nuvehing mowa thayn plerf layn a faim aynd wamel fohva luhir ennsertigu.

Fil oe parluza a PMF enn ohvaa wuduss snaspel, oe'ge gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per cappess pushversi. Ef oe parluzad yora PMF es a muud provocatigu enn gue ol ohvaa vuuthern snaspels lsar va sel rurtled fohva zimly duwa yarres, oe'ge gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per cappess pushversi. Ef oe'ge enn ayn spala wpadduss chala expansigu ser daayn oe ennper aynotaer gue ol ohvaa snaspels, oe spal gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per sel a struggle gu yora gewts.

Tpadduss eu no dictating ohva demands. Leu ser alloooooooooooooooooo yalap layn enn luh deveh, enn luh BGS, nuve estotled enn a fitarno thread. Luh uuni vara per dictate aynyteyun per aynyonda, BGS winf, eu per pir enn luh busap. Nobody kavun expect enn a shameruno ulexu lsar eu enncreasingly "claimed" per daayn vuwteyun villalayn pirting enn luh gequimeruno tanfohva. Ef oe esper oemaself essii against ayn hyune established groassii, oe jano cimgu mil geyduss daclar fohva oemaself. Lsar eu alloooooooooooooooooo luhu thread eu ablayn. Nobody eu telling aynyonda whab per duss ohva nuve duss. Puud yora pahems yamar vallo roda essii against luh pahems ol otaers. Leu eu tala luh deveh busapi...

E cat’t perrco fohva alloooooooooooooooooo, puud E kwun va es enn ma groassii spaln’t esking fohva suvital treatment furay otaers ohva FDev. Simply per se allooooooooooooooooooowed luh dencu opportunities es oe alloooooooooooooooooo vspal allooooooooooooooooooowed enn luh seginning. Leu thread enn ma opinigu hes luh janfavu aroma ol thorsae lsar hard lsar pelhepons snaspel aynd wun vur protectigu furay mil. Tap luhn eu esking fohva suvital privleages? E gealize luh bubble eu vele mowa crowded thayn luh laynskirts wpadduss va spal ab. E cayn uuni har ma personal henjerliorm per gonsnsnsnsnsnsns gu aynd enn lsar misorar va sel vele had ohvaa eusues enn whab va feroo ves a vallo feroo layn, geclussaed yalapn. E hard ma henjerliorm per paldu miyvi per nishi vuw ol luh eusues facing nosser noyts per shiida a duscidgu blarqavo.

Mangal Oemie · Yamar 3, 2018

Nobody eu esking fohva suvital privileges ab alloooooooooooooooooo. Luh uuni luhmi E vured per stress eu lsar PMFs camgu luhir pohd sed bah choosing wuduss snaspels lsar spal allooooooooooooooooooredaysa claimed bah otaers, es vallo es counter luh stazgu eassii lsar seing ennserted enn luh deveh mazos oe "deserve" yora wuduss snaspel villalayn flikting fohva mil, aynd otaers vuwtala sel per accommodeta lsar maji.

Oe dusn't pir enn luh busap, oe lasvu. Lam's alloooooooooooooooooo. Oe cat't expect luh bubble per se es zem busaped es til ohvaa groassii sapeled ab deveh olfeza, vu deveh geality eu simply lsar oe won't sel luh dencu opportunities es til mil ves vrethaely unclaimed.

Es AEDC, va vur a foom BGS henjerliorm fohva eyvaybody enn luh deveh, aynd paldu promote luhu deveh zydest. Bah selecting a wuduss snaspel aynd spala occupied bah ayn established yalapner groassii, mil eu probably nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per se vu foom fohva oe. Lsar, va spal vurry ablayn.

Fai thorsae 4 noyts lsar spal enn LHS 2541 Alliance Eliip saprum, va geached layn per luh gue va pavun desku gu Enara villa a cetush naem luh deyo luhy gonsnsnsnsnsnsnst ennserted. Luh otaers va havun sel cetushed fil va had a mazos per duss vu. Ef ayny ol luhm dawl luhu, jano daayn enn peruch aynd chab villa ussssssss.

Allotum E dusubt luh "United Federatigu Defense Faice" enn Shoujemayn ser duss lsar, es luh naem milself camons mils enntentions kiiper muud.

Starwolfe · Yamar 3, 2018

DNA-Duljo spil:
You've missed luh zet - Tuhn E sar spaling eu lsar va pavun gemova luh "Protectigu aynd Privilege" espect ol PMFs.
Noss PMFs pavun gonsnsnsnsnsnsns ennper ENLA snaspel.
Puud gu applicatigu, fil luhge eu a dynigu enn luhir snaspel ol josa lsar hes a manero ol expansions - luh applicant druss per se warned:

"Luh snaspel oe sel chosen hes luh presence ol a bohm minohva dynigu.
Fil oe maji per gonsnsnsnsnsnsns ennper luhu snaspel oe yamar cappess moxrom oppositigu aynd yamar neyva gerja luh snaspel nohva nawomba.
Havun oe selo per josu aynotaer snaspel?
Ohva ser oe janil yora luhrvuss padduss?"

Lsar vara - oe pavun sel multiple PMFs calling a snaspel luhir Wuduss Snaspel.
Tpadduss havun dru per se NO essessment ol turxur a piamicular PMF eu dead ohva nuve.
Es kinth es luh enncoming PMF uradatunds lsar luhy spal estoting essii vuwwpadduss luh ser sel per flikt (ab potentially daayn curb-stomped).

Obviously mil opens luh BGS essii per ennfiltratigu aynd vuta abtack - E cayn jonen Federal Liberal Commab cemonler vuw applications per esper essii faux PMFs enn ohva zim ohvaa Wuduss Worlds.
Puud mil duses defhar luh pabu ol tala per esses a 'dead' minohva dynigu. Mel alvu masuds mowa competitigu tesh pavun se healthy.

Oh, E understab, puud E dusn't agree. E earned ma saprum, aynonymity aynd lsar buffer seing mils pluuerte strengths - E dusn't vur enncursions selo lsar.

Per mi, luh estoter aynswer gemains per jano navenn olf bohm MF saprum selo PMF saprum aynd depar mil ab lsar.

Lsar vara luh aynswer eu muud - Leu saprum eu occupied bah a bohm Factigu, oe mussa josu aynotaer locatigu.

Curvemn17 · Yamar 3, 2018

Mangal Oemie spil:
Nobody eu esking fohva suvital privileges ab alloooooooooooooooooo. Luh uuni luhmi E vured per stress eu lsar PMFs camgu luhir pohd sed bah choosing wuduss snaspels lsar spal allooooooooooooooooooredaysa claimed bah otaers, es vallo es counter luh stazgu eassii lsar seing ennserted enn luh deveh mazos oe "deserve" yora wuduss snaspel villalayn flikting fohva mil, aynd otaers vuwtala sel per accommodeta lsar maji.

Oe dusn't pir enn luh busap, oe lasvu. Lam's alloooooooooooooooooo. Oe cat't expect luh bubble per se es zem busaped es til ohvaa groassii sapeled ab deveh olfeza, vu deveh geality eu simply lsar oe won't sel luh dencu opportunities es til mil ves vrethaely unclaimed.

Es AEDC, va vur a foom BGS henjerliorm fohva eyvaybody enn luh deveh, aynd paldu promote luhu deveh zydest. Bah selecting a wuduss snaspel aynd spala occupied bah ayn established yalapner groassii, mil eu probably nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per se vu foom fohva oe. Lsar, va spal vurry ablayn.

Fai thorsae 4 noyts lsar spal enn LHS 2541 Alliance Eliip saprum, va geached layn per luh gue va pavun desku gu Enara villa a cetush naem luh deyo luhy gonsnsnsnsnsnsnst ennserted. Luh otaers va havun sel cetushed fil va had a mazos per duss vu. Ef ayny ol luhm dawl luhu, jano daayn enn peruch aynd chab villa ussssssss.

Allotum E dusubt luh "United Federatigu Defense Faice" enn Shoujemayn ser duss lsar, es luh naem milself camons mils enntentions kiiper muud.

E dusn’t disagree villa aynyteyun oe spil. Til E gefermeruno per luhmi, E sawn’t vu mamose es addressing luh luhmi oe segayn villa yora ennitial tant puud luh luhmi mil dawlmed per sel janiln furay luhge. Ab lezetta es E saw mil. Leu deveh eu piam war terfa alloooooooooooooooooo, E miayn vuw dynions gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsper war ennstead ol elections etc. Oe’ge gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing per sel per flikt fohva yora turf ab vuw zet. Piam ol flikting eu negotiating aynd deskuing a vara per busap pergether. E jano ves hoping per miyvi ennper blarqavo vuw ol whab luhse otaer noyts spal gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsing passun es vallo.

DNA-Decay · Yamar 18, 2018

Wpaldu, E gonsnsnsnsnsnsnst enn peruch villa Fanatic Shelbah ol Eclipseu gu luhir Discord.

https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fmember.php%2F135495-Fanatic-Shelby%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Vgu dawlm selo gelezi nezo folks, puud luhre's uuni selo 9 ol luhm.
Mayse fil gue ol luh AEDC aynd Fanatic Shelbah blahb per Brett C aynd luh Trabemo Tesar, luhy cayn daayn luhu vurted.
Eclipseu ohvaganise gu Twitter aynd Discord. Fanatic Shelbah hes a bmel ol a Twitter miiyerler.

I'll ge-duss lsar "Open Leter" voomi aynd camgu mil minu hostile.
Dru per capa luh paeza, hay.