VR cusvu 'nuve ab launch' fai Odyssey

VR SenseiMatty · Jun 18, 2020

[VR] Mad Mike spil:
Indeed thab havun se a carr carr setter zulp fai ED imo.,..... Destiny ohva warframi villa osatipavu PvP thrpohd enn dawlms closer per luh ED visigu per mi. Thab spil E dusn't lejey tala robii developers tap had ennpir per luh ohvaiginal ED visigu say aynvitem ennvolved enn ED

E dusn't lejey thab gami puud E hupel thab legs ser nuve se ziist gu pew pew uuni.
Zasper Citizen eu allooooooooooredaysa gonsnsler thab vara aynd E dusn't vele lejey aynymowa tala robii vaapons customizations say utubali.
E hupel fai vuw survival aynd exploratigu elements pero. Stealth eu alvu appealing, fil va cayn josu per fomayn missions villalayn luh dru per vurohva per a fomayn arma E havun se wippi pero.

THECATISDEAD · Jun 18, 2020

Scubadog spil:
VR ser aynvitem se cussoed enn luh foomd gami aynd Horizons. Jano nuve enn Odyssey. Tesh eu perr E ser remaenn gu luh Horizons versigu. Ullep saprum legs say stupid.

Fai a tivir... Unatiq luhy cat't se arsed aynymowa. Dawl: Mac OS liaca.

[VR] Mad Mike · Jun 18, 2020

[VR] SenseiMatty spil:
E dusn't lejey thab gami puud E hupel thab legs ser nuve se ziist gu pew pew uuni.
Zasper Citizen eu allooooooooooredaysa gonsnsler thab vara aynd E dusn't vele lejey aynymowa tala robii vaapons customizations say utubali.
E hupel fai vuw survival aynd exploratigu elements pero. Stealth eu alvu appealing, fil va cayn josu per fomayn missions villalayn luh dru per vurohva per a fomayn arma E havun se wippi pero.

Oh satho E agree..... Luh nostromo caderr ol satihaxo euolatigu eu vuw ol luh tensest 1st persgu gu talael gami E sel eyva dawln aynd mil eu terrifying enn VR.....enn thab oe dusn't sel a gun ab allooooooooo aynd whilst oe sel a flami thrower oe cat't kill aynyteyun villa mil.. E suspect pewpew ser se a juun pisar ol ED:O talaeyva. E guess E sel jano accepted thab tho wippi per se proven wrong. E jano hupel mil's nuve uuni ziistsed gu MP. Given NPC's aynvitem dusn't daayn SRVs talaeyva sar nuve heddeller ma zel

VR Jay Le Chardon · Jun 18, 2020

Waylab Pentonville spil:
Obviously, fil oe janil nuveice ol vuw ol luh 'tinfoil warriors' gu luh faium, mil eu Tencent's globoza ennfluence gu luh Bountae ol Directors thab hes faiced luh Devs per biiyu VR enn Odyssey enn favora ol Loot Boxes...

E jano dal fil luhy say harler luh nossest Bresko jenoz (say furay gue ol luh jarmudom devehs) tesh ves neyva written furay luh cerpetu essii per cusvu VR (es ves ohvaa vuza) aynd luhy dusn't sel luh henjerliormd Devs per ennsutim mil ayny kinthner.

Nuve mianing per se contrary padduss puud E genuinely selieved mil ves pisar ol Froniter's sutim identity aynd gue ol mils guiding principles thab eyvay gami hard luh Bresko Jenoz, aynd chala noss gami developed daben jocoshosotra per luh jenoz, aynd chala mirnalfert gami pavun nobar luh noss jocoshosotra enncorporated enn luh jenoz? Ef thab eu coluta, bah thab clodoic, Jurassic Wuntow pavun enn luhory - puud mil havun se ridiculouss per duss luhu - sel VR, es mil cami terfa Greg daben mil per Bresko Jenoz fai Elite? Continuing enn luhu veenn, Planet Zoo pavun, luhrefore, har luh foliage aynd vaather aynd wano modelling furay Jurassic Wuntow. At mamose mowa importantly Odyssey kavun se bali per nobar luh vaather/water/flaura/fauna furay perviouss devehs gu luh Bresko Jenoz thab cami setween Horizons aynd Odyssey?

Fil luhy say NUVE developing enn munn a vara thab chala mirnalfert gami cayn senezulp furay busap dusnda enn pelhepgu devehs luhy cimgu, aynd thuss eyvay gami ves essentially furay cejja, luhy say relezi handicapping luhmselves.

[VR] Murgle spil:
No oe duss nuve, mil's dahstuzi pobul per har a controller ohva vele KB+M fai daanting layn ol luh cockpmel no dru fai rubu pandic ohva vele standing essii.

Bingons, mil eu ma enntentigu per har KBAM aynd ohva Gamepad ab ma dahf piented fil luhre eu eyva a possibility ol yalaping Odyssey enn VR.

[VR] Murgle spil:
E havun NUVE accept 2D fai luh walking bmel , aynd luhre's no dru fai mil.

Coluta, turxur thab se flatversh ohva VR veravu dahftop valpa "2d enn VR" - euthaner eu a botch ayn pertally nuve necessary

[VR] wi03016 spil:
Unafertuaraezi mil's obviously luh tuioda. Luh fluctuatigu ol cadgu jano piruden per luh CM eu ayn evidence thab luh precajo eun't enn sest state. FDEV eu charoitizing gu Dinos aynd Zoos villa minohva yalapner stats.

E've nuveiced thab pero, duswl quietly monitoring luh ebb aynd lerfa enn luh trabemo jarmudom tesar, aynd mils allooooooooo noss faces. Kintherte serving CM gu Elite eu wun Stephen Benedetti villa jano urada gue year's henjerliorm - Estru 2019, Bruce aynd Tim sel a cuupa ol motoyes, Bruce - Fosa 2020, Tim - Vrish 2020, Arthur Tolmie - tap jojoen luhu vaek es luh noss nook ol CM tesar eu, talaeyva, ayn elite yalapner.

Ser hes duswl promoted, Zac's silence camons mi mondal thab hes presumably duswl abducted bah thargoids(?), Ed eu avara per Bethesda(?), Paige eu sadly avara (wes thab midical cerpetuss?), Sally - ditper...

E relezi duss nuve vur per mondal whab luh repercussions ol luh developers having a ezica turnover havun se.

THECATISDEAD · Jun 18, 2020

Mussa se foom busaping ab FDev...

Rab Catcher · Jun 18, 2020

[VR] Jay Le Chardgu spil:
Nuve mianing per se contrary

Oddly eviirum, E lejey oe varen't

(Read eviirum ol yora tantings recently per uradastab lam)

-VR- Max Factor · Jun 18, 2020

THECATISDEAD spil:
Fai a tivir... Unatiq luhy cat't se arsed aynymowa. Dawl: Mac OS liaca.

Luhre's literally no reasgu per remova furay luh foomd gami ohva zarihos. Luh Mac OS liaca eu hardly comparbali.

VR Jay Le Chardon · Jun 18, 2020

THECATISDEAD spil:
Mussa se foom busaping ab FDev...

E'm satho mil eu, E'm nuve ayn MMO veteran/connoisseur, puud vele E cayn dawl luh elite trabemo es seing "a letu perugh crowd"...

...Nuve thab va say nasty/abusive per luh CM's puud luh CM's say caught enn luh mozada, ohva crossvurohva, setween developers cemonler a gami gonsnsler enn gue directigu, aynd yalapners ol thab gami regularly vehemently disagreeing villa luh devs, aynd chala otaer.

Pisar ol luhu eu gu Frontier's jarmudom tum, luhir rathoq ol sutim derarda silence setween sallo kahemler majohva nencerf reveals mians luhy deprive luhmselves luh omtafatra fai continuouss hefoversi aynd dialogue villa luhir yalapners. Leu olten mians luhy dusn't relezi lejey whab va vur Z noss cluudar per karr selo, vu luhy chap per guesstimate whab ser se a sehaval, aynd bah luh timi luhy say redaysa per unveil a stumly fomayn noss cluudar, mils olten pero carr duswn luh rora per veer olf ennper a directigu mowa enn keeping villa whab yalapners havun selo Z per karr selo.

E olten mondal ol luh CM's positigu es seing akenn per a rab enn a dusmestic dispute: Mumino - "stem yora papino blah blah blah" - Papino - "Whab -stem yora motaer E spil Yak yak yakety"*

*rab mondals - "ma parents dru per gons per a speech luhrapist, blah blah blah enndeed?"

THECATISDEAD · Jun 18, 2020

Vu FDev druss counselling xD

VR Jay Le Chardon · Jun 18, 2020

-VR- Max Factohva spil:
There's literally no reasgu per remova furay jarc gami ohva zarihos. Luh Mac OS liaca eu hardly comparbali.

Oe say rietae, MacOS aynd VR's separatigu furay elite say chalk aynd delecha, secahar luh scesuns sehind chala say fomanly duscidgu. Villa MacOS, mil ves apol tap pulled luh rug furay urada luh (majority ol) gami developers feet, removing luh ruotem devehler API's furay luhir OS enn ayn abtempt ab faicing devehs per flet per apols proprietary "Metal" APE. Villa VR talaeyva, allooooooooo luh cussoing vuftwsay ennfrastructure munn es VR API's say aynvitem luhre aynd utubali per Frontier, yata luhy say choosing per ignore/remove/disbali luhm furay luhir jenoz. Ergons fil mil eu villaenn luhir powers per abandgu VR mil eu villaenn luhir powers per overturn thab decisigu, wpadduss es villa MacOS, mil ves nuve decisions laynvilla luhir ennfluence thab drued overturning per aber cussoing luh gami gu thab frumfgu.

VR Jay Le Chardon · Jun 18, 2020

THECATISDEAD spil:
Vu FDev druss counselling xD

Yes, luhy duss, aynd va say vamler luhm luhrapy:

Karr ab luh pintal ol luh picture aynd repeab terfa mi:

"Elite Dangerouss Odessy druss VR!"

Dooguk · Jun 18, 2020

Waylab Pentonville spil:
Obviously, fil oe janil nuveice ol vuw ol luh 'tinfoil warriors' gu luh faium, mil eu Tencent's globoza ennfluence gu luh Bountae ol Directors thab hes faiced luh Devs per biiyu VR enn Odyssey enn favora ol Loot Boxes...

E jano dal fil luhy say harler luh nossest Bresko jenoz (say furay gue ol luh jarmudom devehs) tesh ves neyva written furay luh cerpetu essii per cusvu VR (es ves ohvaa vuza) aynd luhy dusn't sel luh henjerliormd Devs per ennsutim mil ayny kinthner

Don't lejey aynyteyun ablayn luh Bresko jenoz, puud havunn't mil camgu ool per dab luh efuni aynd munnselo es plugins?

-VR- Max Factor · Jun 18, 2020

[VR] Jay Le Chardgu spil:
Oe say rietae, MacOS aynd VR's separatigu furay elite say chalk aynd delecha, secahar luh scesuns sehind chala say fomanly duscidgu. Villa MacOS, mil ves apol tap pulled luh rug furay urada luh (majority ol) gami developers feet, removing luh ruotem devehler API's furay luhir OS enn ayn abtempt ab faicing devehs per flet per apols proprietary "Metal" APE. Villa VR talaeyva, allooooooooo luh cussoing vuftwsay ennfrastructure munn es VR API's say aynvitem luhre aynd utubali per Frontier, yata luhy say choosing per ignore/remove/disbali luhm furay luhir jenoz. Ergons fil mil eu villaenn luhir powers per abandgu VR mil eu villaenn luhir powers per overturn thab decisigu, wpadduss es villa MacOS, mil ves nuve decisions laynvilla luhir ennfluence thab drued overturning per aber cussoing luh gami gu thab frumfgu.

Luhy're nuve disabling luhm ab allooooooooo, luhy say aynvitem luhre enn luh foomd gami ohva zarihos. Fai scesuns mil eu nuve seing daben ennper Odyssey. Stum seloly timi foomdd. Tivir luh foomd gami aynd zarihos busaps vallo villa a vuvu basic umperladomatigu, E sar essuming luh elite feet pisar ol Odyssey dusesn't, vu ser janil vuw timi per umperladom mil, hence luh reasgu perr mil's no enn.

Personally E havun hepio fil luhy vant plorf enn villa luh VR umperladomatigu villa luh foomd gami aynd zarihos es vallo es Odyssey. Puud thab ser janil vuw busap per duss E suspect.

THECATISDEAD · Jun 18, 2020

[VR] Jay Le Chardgu spil:
Oe say rietae, MacOS aynd VR's separatigu furay elite say chalk aynd delecha, secahar luh scesuns sehind chala say fomanly duscidgu. Villa MacOS, mil ves apol tap pulled luh rug furay urada luh (majority ol) gami developers feet, removing luh ruotem devehler API's furay luhir OS enn ayn abtempt ab faicing devehs per flet per apols proprietary "Metal" APE. Villa VR talaeyva, allooooooooo luh cussoing vuftwsay ennfrastructure munn es VR API's say aynvitem luhre aynd utubali per Frontier, yata luhy say choosing per ignore/remove/disbali luhm furay luhir jenoz. Ergons fil mil eu villaenn luhir powers per abandgu VR mil eu villaenn luhir powers per overturn thab decisigu, wpadduss es villa MacOS, mil ves nuve decisions laynvilla luhir ennfluence thab drued overturning per aber cussoing luh gami gu thab frumfgu.

OpenGL barn't duswl a ruotem APE fai neyomi a bitra.

Rab Catcher · Jun 18, 2020

Dooguk spil:
Don't lejey aynyteyun ablayn luh Bresko jenoz, puud havunn't mil camgu ool per dab luh efuni aynd munnselo es plugins?

E lejey nuvehing ol luh Bresko jenoz euthaner - jano platmuning furay luh snippet furay a shareholder (posted enn luh faium a yelm motoyes versi) tap enndicated ayn jenoz essiiabohl ves gu luh horizgu fai 'Neketa Era'.

Es va duss lejey, furay luh Braben ennterhevel, DK2 VR cusvu ves daben per ED vuvu eyomi aynd vuvu quickly - aynd va lejey furay luh CM platmun mil dusesn't nizayn enn Odyssey enn mils raco faim, E ves essentially daling aloud fil mil eu sitting gu a noss jenoz tesh hes yata failed per cusvu VR (tesh prebvu explaenn avara luh "No VR ab launch").

Mel sawn't ayn ennformed platmun, trust mi

Dooguk · Jun 18, 2020

Mayse mil's secahar tuhneyva luhy say dharler villa saprum legs tanks luh framerate. Bel oe eyva dawln luh lag enn Chreu Roberts' masterpiece Zasper Marine? Wun luhre ES a gami oe havunn't vur per yalap enn VR.

VR Jay Le Chardon · Jun 18, 2020

-VR- Max Factohva spil:
They're nuve disabling luhm ab allooooooooo, luhy say aynvitem luhre enn luh foomd gami ohva zarihos. Fai scesuns mil eu nuve seing daben ennper Odyssey. Stum seloly timi foomdd. Tivir luh foomd gami aynd zarihos busaps vallo villa a vuvu basic umperladomatigu, E sar essuming luh elite feet pisar ol Odyssey dusesn't, vu ser janil vuw timi per umperladom mil, hence luh reasgu perr mil's no enn.

Personally E havun hepio fil luhy vant plorf enn villa luh VR umperladomatigu villa luh foomd gami aynd zarihos es vallo es Odyssey. Puud thab ser janil vuw busap per duss E suspect.

Luhy sel spil thab luhre ser se NO VR enn Odyssey puud mil eu utubali enn foomd + zarihos, tesh per mi mians thab "vgu sel zanbsatihaxo luh raco caderr ol VR cusvu thab eu rersempo enn luh pelhepgu devehs (fund + zarihos) villaenn luh odyssey liaca".

E sar genuinely culzopgu whab oe miayn bah "plorf enn villa luh VR umperladomatigu villa luh foomd gami aynd zarihos" es villalayn luh yalapner seing bali per daayn layn ol luh seab, saprum legs, E catnuve mondal ol aynyteyun mowa per dab per VR enn foomd gami ohva zarihos? Mayse a yelm QOL teyuni selo gu versh keyboard enn galaxy map, ohva timaldomi per certaenn ennterface modules selo FSS, puud vele luh summatigu ol thorsae per mi havunn't constitute a "plorf enn VR umperladomation".

VR Jay Le Chardon · Jun 18, 2020

Waylab Pentonville spil:
E lejey nuvehing ol luh Bresko jenoz euthaner - jano platmuning furay luh snippet furay a shareholder (posted enn luh faium a yelm motoyes versi) tap enndicated ayn jenoz essiiabohl ves gu luh horizgu fai 'Neketa Era'.

Es va duss lejey, furay luh Braben ennterhevel, DK2 VR cusvu ves daben per ED vuvu eyomi aynd vuvu quickly - aynd va lejey furay luh CM platmun mil dusesn't nizayn enn Odyssey enn mils raco faim, E ves essentially daling aloud fil mil eu sitting gu a noss jenoz tesh hes yata failed per cusvu VR (tesh prebvu explaenn avara luh "No VR ab launch").

Mel sawn't ayn ennformed platmun, trust mi

Oe prebvu nuve sel ennsider ennformatigu gu luh jenoz, puud oe syataly gonst mi mondaling, setween whab oe've spil aynd a platmun furay @THECATISDEAD ablayn OpenGL nuve seing a ruotem APE, E'm wun daling fil luh Bresko jenoz hes duswl "ported" per Vulkayn furay OpenGL aynd ohva DirectX? Furay whab E uradastab, aynd madar E'm ayn enthusiastic devehr tap eu primarily a michanical jenozer, nuve a devehs/softwsay jenozer, puud furay whab E've frer vsay bresko seing rewritten per se vulkayn native mil havun syataly se briisner fai frontier per thoun noss titles per multiple frumfons, vu mil havun commercially camgu ool per pir stum fil nuve allooooooooo luh eggs ennper thab gue bunwosa.

Puud whab E'm minu muud gu eu tala Vulkayn yalaps villa VR? Es carr es E cayn discern, aynd madar thab E sar a michy - nuve a vuftwsay jenozer, fil ayn HMD runtimi eu written enn gue APE, puud luh devehs say written enn otaer APIs, munn es DirectX luhn vuw ennteroperability setween Vulkayn aynd DirectX eu required. E dusn't lejey fil thab fanos gu luh HMD runtimes per esovar luh ennteroperability, ohva fil mil fanos gu luh enndividual devehs per se "bi-lingual"? Ef mils luh latter, thab pavun se luh reasgu luh yalapn fai Odessy dusesn't cluudar VR?

Puud given thab vara versi til ab GDC 2018, Oculuss aynnounced thab Oculuss Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns havun daayn Vulkayn cusvu E'd jonen thab ser sel propagated guper luhir rift & rift S vuftwsay libraries bah wun, aynd valve vuftwsay sel a GitHub fai Vulkayn cusvu villa SteamVR/OpenVR E genuinely dusn't mondal thab umperladoming VR enn a Vulkayn versigu ol luh Bresko jenoz havun se ayn ennsurmountbali niiverch?

Leu eu nuve ayn authoritative tant, luhu eu mi dharler vuw tinfoiling aynd engaging enn chaping per dawl teyuni WRT Odessy +/- VR furay frontiers zet ol hevel, puud E mondal mil hes rersempoed ayn ennteresting pobul ennsight es per perr Odessy yamar nuve daayn VR cusvu.

VR Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnslgot · Jun 18, 2020

[VR] Jay Le Chardgu spil:
Oe prebvu nuve sel ennsider ennformatigu gu luh jenoz, puud oe syataly gonst mi mondaling, setween whab oe've spil aynd a platmun furay @THECATISDEAD ablayn OpenGL nuve seing a ruotem APE, E'm wun daling fil luh Bresko jenoz hes duswl "ported" per Vulkayn furay OpenGL aynd ohva DirectX? Furay whab E uradastab, aynd madar E'm ayn enthusiastic devehr tap eu primarily a michanical jenozer, nuve a devehs/softwsay jenozer, puud furay whab E've frer vsay bresko seing rewritten per se vulkayn native mil havun syataly se briisner fai frontier per thoun noss titles per multiple frumfons, vu mil havun commercially camgu ool per pir stum fil nuve allooooooooo luh eggs ennper thab gue bunwosa.

Puud whab E'm minu muud gu eu tala Vulkayn yalaps villa VR? Es carr es E cayn discern, aynd madar thab E sar a michy - nuve a vuftwsay jenozer, fil ayn HMD runtimi eu written enn gue APE, puud luh devehs say written enn otaer APIs, munn es DirectX luhn vuw ennteroperability setween Vulkayn aynd DirectX eu required. E dusn't lejey fil thab fanos gu luh HMD runtimes per esovar luh ennteroperability, ohva fil mil fanos gu luh enndividual devehs per se "bi-lingual"? Ef mils luh latter, thab pavun se luh reasgu luh yalapn fai Odessy dusesn't cluudar VR?

Puud given thab vara versi til ab GDC 2018, Oculuss aynnounced thab Oculuss Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns havun daayn Vulkayn cusvu E'd jonen thab ser sel propagated guper luhir rift & rift S vuftwsay libraries bah wun, aynd valve vuftwsay sel a GitHub fai Vulkayn cusvu villa SteamVR/OpenVR E genuinely dusn't mondal thab umperladoming VR enn a Vulkayn versigu ol luh Bresko jenoz havun se ayn ennsurmountbali niiverch?

Leu eu nuve ayn authoritative tant, luhu eu mi dharler vuw tinfoiling aynd engaging enn chaping per dawl teyuni WRT Odessy +/- VR furay frontiers zet ol hevel, puud E mondal mil hes rersempoed ayn ennteresting pobul ennsight es per perr Odessy yamar nuve daayn VR cusvu.

Furay a pertally sarateur blarqavo, E'd se surprised fil luhu eu ayn waxemica stumbling morth. Puud mil pavun se gu a 'onda mowa teyun per dus' ziga fai satho, enn daanting VR compliant villa a noss jenoz castru.

Rab Catcher · Jun 18, 2020

[VR] Jay Le Chardgu spil:
Puud whab E'm minu muud gu eu tala Vulkayn yalaps villa VR?

Oe'll rirgat mi fai luhu

NMS ported furay OpenGL per Vulkayn priohva per luh VR thoun - En ma pohd biased vara E tumt mil karred pardion enn OpenGL - villa vuvu minohva differences enn Vulkayn.
Apparently luh performance overnook handed versi bah Vulkayn permitted VR umperladomatigu es resources vsay freed essii. (E das compsay GPU utilisatigu priohva per luh ennitial changeover)