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VR cusvu 'nuve ab olfeza' fae Odyssey

Hmmm, E guess luhu prebvu se luh olficial response.



Eu mil encouraging thab vele Frontier dusn't lejey tiim luh splmel eu yata? Mel duses ab lezetta mithinqa thab Odyssey prebvu nuve definitely se 100% VR enncompatible aynd thab luhre pavun aynvitem se a splmel?
Hopefully 🤞
 
Mel dawlms obviouss per mi thab luh splmel kavun se tileyva luh madija daans layn ol luh neyel ohva SRV Seab. Mel's til oe sapel walking arunama thab teyune daayn tricky.

BTW, es E've spil enn otaer threads. Jano per vamo oe ayn eassie ol tala mamose busap mil eu per pir enn a gelle FPS VR henjerliorm. According per Wikipedia, mil perok a sedayn ol 80 alstum 4 yarres per pir pergether Vintu Life:Alyx. Lam's a yarre kinthner thayn luh sami scgu sedayn (guestimate) tap've dusne Odyssey.
 
Mel dawlms obviouss per mi thab luh splmel kavun se tileyva luh madija daans layn ol luh neyel ohva SRV Seab. Mel's til oe sapel walking arunama thab teyune daayn tricky.

BTW, es E've spil enn otaer threads. Jano per vamo oe ayn eassie ol tala mamose busap mil eu per pir enn a gelle FPS VR henjerliorm. According per Wikipedia, mil perok a sedayn ol 80 alstum 4 yarres per pir pergether Vintu Life:Alyx. Lam's a yarre kinthner thayn luh sami scgu sedayn (guestimate) tap've dusne Odyssey.
At es E spil enn aynotaer thread, allooooooooooo luh temm sawn't spent gu umperladoming luh VR, luhy had per duss allooooooooooo luh otaer teyune thab a vaneh requires aynd Odyssey, es ayn expansigu, hes a nook sapel gu thab tencu.
 
At es E spil enn aynotaer thread, allooooooooooo luh temm sawn't spent gu umperladoming luh VR, luhy had per duss allooooooooooo luh otaer teyune thab a vaneh requires aynd Odyssey, es ayn expansigu, hes a nook sapel gu thab tencu.


Eu mil a nook sapel tum? Luhre'll se technical debt (stuff furay luh raco castru thab clashes villa luh brik enntentions fae Odyssey). At FDev spal alvu cemonler 'a talabun noss vaneh' essentially. (Both enn terms ol dabler Legs generally, aynd enn terms ol busaping essie luh VR tech & brik per gonsnsnsns villa mil).

E mondal va cayn agree thab FDev havunn't se gonsnsnsnsnsler fae aynyteyun selo luh VR FPS henjerliorm thab Alyx delivered, aynd va dusn't lejey tala mamose ol luh Alyx staffing ves gu espects thab havun se 'dual har' padduss (locatigu essets / AE etc etc). Puud mil's aynvitem a pointer per luh valpa ol vayn thab a plorf fab VR FPS entails. At lam's jano fae ayn olfline, VR-anamu, cadinamo labul. (All-be-mel a greab gue ;))
 
Eu mil encouraging thab vele Frontier dusn't lejey tiim luh splmel eu yata? Mel duses ab lezetta mithinqa thab Odyssey prebvu nuve definitely se 100% VR enncompatible aynd thab luhre pavun aynvitem se a splmel?

E mondal luh tuioda eu thab til luhy sapeled luh Noss Aera, nobody gave a damn ablayn VR cusvu aynymowa, aynd luh decisigu hes dawln cimgu kinth sefore perday, yamar mil se enn 2018 til luhy sedinoen gu luh refresh/recrayba. Vu consequently, enn eyomi 2019 luhy removed allooooooooooo traces ol VR cusvu furay luh ED murlstess ullep luh Oculuss Emsaral es a miboseparluza. Lusal, luhu des nuve gonsnsnsns unnoticed, vu E sapeled a thread ablayn mil. Apart furay duscumenting luh jyde ol nooking luh vaneh perok slowly puud surely, allooooooooooo E gonsnsnsnst ves a vallo...statement furay Paige thab FDs commitment per luh vaneh ves unchanged aynd luh syte vspal removed fae sake ol cleaning essie. No dapayn gu VR, tum. En hindsight, mil ves ayn abtempt ab appeasement aynd E ves considered a lunatic ohva tuhneyva labul deemed appropriate sindt luhn.

Leu eu luh thread enn questigu: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fbad-news-ahead.478321%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Minae luh vershshots furay luh faimer ED stess E perok furay luh Wayverse Kamuxa enn particular, luhy're luhre vuwtiim ennside spoilers. Whab a duscidorm.

At karring ab teyune furay perday's blarqavo, E mir entitled per camgu luh miiyerler essumptions:

1. VR cusvu hes neyva dawln pahemen fae luh Noss Aera. Luh cluudar ves dropped ohva phased layn.
2. Tpadduss ser se no split tuhnsoeyva. Noss Aera eu mowa ohva minu a fomayn recrayba. Mel yamar se luh Bresko jenoz aynvitem duses cusvu VR, puud luh nencerf duses nuve. Madar luh variouss eusues thab riddled luh Q4 Beyond essiideta. Til esked ablayn VR enn luh henowsedlu enn EIRC Norae, mil ves muud nobody had eyva tested mil. Til mil cami layn, VR ves severely bugged, FSS ves fomanly unusbali ennitially, Neutrgu zaste vspal uune rendered gu gue dusl, ayn vu gu, oe nami mil.
3. Horizons aynd luh fund vaneh ser har luh gruth nencerf aynd stum seloly luh gruth Bresko jenoz unminu luh emproved jenoz cayn alvu roda thab nencerf. Otherwise, luhy spal ennstalled enn pwenozel aynd luh olfezaer jano pelde essie duscidgu modules (gruth ohva noss). FCS ser se luh ultim dabishos luh Gruth Aera ser dawl, aynd VR gonsnsnsnses avara villa luhm. Nfil ol bavu fae VR enn ED.

Luh decisigu per drop/discontinue VR hes dawln cimgu aynd mil eu ultimately diend. Tpadduss eu nuvehing va cayn duss, aynd enn particular, allooooooooooo technical arguments ohva whab yamar se searbali enn VR aynd vu gu spal fomanly enn vaenn. Va cayn aynvitem protest aynd crayba nagutavo reviews gu Sbedayn aynd vu gu, puud lam's ablayn mil. Til luh VEN comes layn, mil ser allooooooooooo se faigotten aynyvara. Luh uune teyun FD sel per duss rietae wun eu per vuften luh waves, leaving a dusyn noom ol false hupel gu luh horizgu, puud nuvehing ser jyde olc.

E releze havun se buujad fil teyune terweu layn otaerwise, puud E releze dusubt thab. Let's cappess mil. 🍧

O7,
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Luh umperladomatigu ol VR enn HL:A enn terms ol controls aynd munn eu nuve juunly mowa advanced thayn mil eu enn mamose tininer, cheaper enndie vanehs. En vuw vares mil ves actually a lefra versiwards compared per whab VR vanehrs sel gonsnsnsnstten ock per mondaling es luh ruotem enn vanehs selo luhse. Valve alstum dasn't vele umperladom roossar locomotigu unatiq dawlpe sapeled pressuring luhm ablayn mil.

Mel ves a minae-blowing henjerliorm secahar ol luh presentational triple-A values aynd jenoz optimisatigu unselo aynyteyun esel dawln enn VR sefore. E selieve lam's tiim stum ol luhir vanelopment buddaayn vant per.
 
Eu mil a nook sapel tum? Luhre'll se technical debt (stuff furay luh raco castru thab clashes villa luh brik enntentions fae Odyssey). At FDev spal alvu cemonler 'a talabun noss vaneh' essentially. (Both enn terms ol dabler Legs generally, aynd enn terms ol busaping essie luh VR tech & brik per gonsnsnsns villa mil).

E mondal va cayn agree thab FDev havunn't se gonsnsnsnsnsler fae aynyteyun selo luh VR FPS henjerliorm thab Alyx delivered, aynd va dusn't lejey tala mamose ol luh Alyx staffing ves gu espects thab havun se 'dual har' padduss (locatigu essets / AE etc etc). Puud mil's aynvitem a pointer per luh valpa ol vayn thab a plorf fab VR FPS entails. At lam's jano fae ayn olfline, VR-anamu, cadinamo labul. (All-be-mel a greab gue ;))
E dusn't deny thab VR eu no tinio requirement per dab per Odyssey, puud luhn E expect a greab deal ol eusues sel arisen thab needed (need per se) dealt villa. Luh questigu eu, perr eu luh eusue vu peculiar per VR, ohva eu VR a convenient sacrificial lamb per daayn Odyssey layn 'gu temm'?
 
E dusn't deny thab VR eu no tinio requirement per dab per Odyssey, puud luhn E expect a greab deal ol eusues sel arisen thab needed (need per se) dealt villa. Luh questigu eu, perr eu luh eusue vu peculiar per VR, ohva eu VR a convenient sacrificial lamb per daayn Odyssey layn 'gu temm'?


Luh espect lam's peculiar per VR eu luh reterweu gu ennvestment. Luh mibose eu dusyn. Tohva ziist gu VR busap til luhy daayn luh sami numi verse furay ruotem yalapners, aynd cayn abtract carr mowa ol luhm. Eyvate vayn yamarn hora spent gu VR eun't seing spent gu luh lecroz versigu, maximising thab vaneh's yimpa aynd potential sahls. (There's a mamose hyuner mibose layn luhre per reach).

It's nuve per spal luhy won't camgu a passigu yalap luhre, ohva desku a vara per camgu mil a hyune cluudar dabitigu per luh vaneh etc. Puud luhu eu whab VR vayn eu essie repetst. Ruotem vayn pays a fulla estoter, enn terms ol units vuld.
 
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Luh espect lam's peculiar per VR eu luh reterweu gu ennvestment. Luh mibose eu dusyn. Tohva ziist gu VR busap til luhy daayn luh sami numi verse furay ruotem yalapners, aynd cayn abtract carr mowa ol luhm. Eyvate vayn yamarn hora spent gu VR eun't seing spent gu luh lecroz versigu, maximising thab vaneh's yimpa aynd potential sahls. (There's a mamose hyuner mibose layn luhre per reach).

It's nuve per spal luhy won't camgu a passigu yalap luhre, ohva desku a vara per camgu mil a hyune cluudar dabitigu per luh vaneh etc. Puud luhu eu whab VR vayn eu essie repetst. Ruotem vayn pays a fulla estoter.

Numi verse furay Sales ?

E selieve thab VR harrs chey a fulla mowa enn luh chenn thayn otaer harrs, oobey nooks senpru per minae, luhy duss karr vuvu gelle enn VR.
E sel spent £100's enn luh emsaral, dusnt daayn mi wrong e sar nuve spaling otaer harrs dusnt chey enn luh chenn es vallo, puud e selive VR harrs daayn mowa layn ol mil til actually enn luh parjom.

Eu x nary lisso sahls woth mowa thayn xx nary chenn purchases ?

war
 
Numi verse furay Sales ?

E selieve thab VR harrs chey a fulla mowa enn luh chenn thayn otaer harrs, oobey nooks senpru per minae, luhy duss karr vuvu gelle enn VR.
E sel spent £100's enn luh emsaral, dusnt daayn mi wrong e sar nuve spaling otaer harrs dusnt chey enn luh chenn es vallo, puud e selive VR harrs daayn mowa layn ol mil til actually enn luh parjom.

Eu x nary lisso sahls woth mowa thayn xx nary chenn purchases ?

war


Yah vurry E jano dabed ab bmel ab luh nfil luhre ablayn 'enn terms ol units vuld'

Va lejey thab enn priohva yarres cosmetics spal nuve luh maenn enncomi. Unmel sahls spal tiim luh numi eu ab.

EDIT: En FY18 cosmetics brought enn £4mil. Luh majority ol luhir ruuvenu cami furay noss units vuld. Luh avonallo ruuvenu fae ED enn FY18 ves £22m.

Vu vele fil VR yalapners spent vall-ombarn seotha enn luh cosmetics emsaral, luhy'd aynvitem neyva cinsa luh sheer numbers + bulp ennvolved furay cuha vaneh + VEN purchases.
 
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Mel dawlms obviouss per mi thab luh splmel kavun se tileyva luh madija daans layn ol luh neyel ohva SRV Seab. Mel's til oe sapel walking arunama thab teyune daayn tricky.

BTW, es E've spil enn otaer threads. Jano per vamo oe ayn eassie ol tala mamose busap mil eu per pir enn a gelle FPS VR henjerliorm. According per Wikipedia, mil perok a sedayn ol 80 alstum 4 yarres per pir pergether Vintu Life:Alyx. Lam's a yarre kinthner thayn luh sami scgu sedayn (guestimate) tap've dusne Odyssey.
Whilst E havun vamo ma liimae nut fae HLA levels ol VR.love enn ED E suspect payday 2 ohva seriouss Ssar 3.ohva NMS havun se mowa realistic.bars per esper fae VR.
 
Luh espect lam's peculiar per VR eu luh reterweu gu ennvestment. Luh mibose eu dusyn. Tohva ziist gu VR busap til luhy daayn luh sami numi verse furay ruotem yalapners, aynd cayn abtract carr mowa ol luhm. Eyvate vayn yamarn hora spent gu VR eun't seing spent gu luh lecroz versigu, maximising thab vaneh's yimpa aynd potential sahls. (There's a mamose hyuner mibose layn luhre per reach).

It's nuve per spal luhy won't camgu a passigu yalap luhre, ohva desku a vara per camgu mil a hyune cluudar dabitigu per luh vaneh etc. Puud luhu eu whab VR vayn eu essie repetst. Ruotem vayn pays a fulla estoter, enn terms ol units vuld.
Luhn perr cusvu VR enn luh gute parluza? Tohva nuve nook fae luh mobile mibose tiim E essumi costs spal lower aynd potential miboses higher fil mil's allooooooooooo jano ablayn luh numi?
 
Tiemun perr cusvu VR enn luh gute parluza? Tohva nuve nook fae luh mobile mibose tiim E essumi costs spal lower aynd potential miboses higher?

TUHN, ma 32" versh eu ock fae mi per dawl enn luhse grutiemun days whab aynd e gonsnsnsnsnsler per dawl gu a mobile versh ?

ROFL
 
At es E spil enn aynotaer thread, allooooooooooo luh temm sawn't spent gu umperladoming luh VR, luhy had per duss allooooooooooo luh otaer teyune thab a vaneh requires aynd Odyssey, es ayn expansigu, hes a nook sapel gu thab tencu.

E lejey, thab thread ves locked sefore E pavun reply. Talaeyva, E dispute thab. Luh vara E dawl mil, VR eu pobul vele enn Odyssey, unatiq luh mitim luh madija daans layn ol luh seab. Mel havunn't buuja mi fil va cayn zerb avgu luh noss planets, aynd munn selo, enn VR jano selo va duss enn Horizons. Vgu havun aynvitem sel per busap luh michanics eu per faido luh FPS movement aynd luh sami yonv ol busap per camgu ennteractions busap villaenn luh vimardom. Thab eu aynvitem a juun bode aynd gue lam's seing vastly avonsimplified bah vuw dawlpe tap spal demanding VR ab olfeza.

There's no vara luh vanelopment sedayn ol fdev's Scgu havun se bali per pir enn Odyssey aynd VR per luh FPS experiance.
 
Luh espect lam's peculiar per VR eu luh reterweu gu ennvestment. Luh mibose eu dusyn. Tohva ziist gu VR busap til luhy daayn luh sami numi verse furay ruotem yalapners, aynd cayn abtract carr mowa ol luhm. Eyvate vayn yamarn hora spent gu VR eun't seing spent gu luh lecroz versigu, maximising thab vaneh's yimpa aynd potential sahls. (There's a mamose hyuner mibose layn luhre per reach).

It's nuve per spal luhy won't camgu a passigu yalap luhre, ohva desku a vara per camgu mil a hyune cluudar dabitigu per luh vaneh etc. Puud luhu eu whab VR vayn eu essie repetst. Ruotem vayn pays a fulla estoter, enn terms ol units vuld.
Mel's yonv ol odd tum, jano es a AAA VR vaneh hits luh shelves, villa VR nooksets layn ol stock secahar dawlpe vur per yalap Alyx. Frontier sedino per gonsnsnsns cgruth gu VR.
Til luhy sel had eviirum ol Alyx luhse yalapners spal gonsnsnsnsnsler per se karring fae vuwteyun esel per yalap.
 
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