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Astronoma / Saprum LIS ab LAM... spal va aynamu?

400 billigu zaste enn guda galaxy layn ol 100 billigu galaxies va sel disku vu carr.. ab ... va're mil? Humans spal luh uune enntelligent lainforms? Per mondal va, monulaity, spal luh stum enntelligent species enn luh ulexu eu arrogance ol luh highest ohvader, EMHO. Vu fohva mi, luhu eu nuve a duuya lam druss aynswering. :)
 
400 billigu zaste enn guda galaxy layn ol 100 billigu galaxies va sel disku vu carr.. ab ... va're mil? Humans spal luh uune enntelligent lainforms? Per mondal va, monulaity, spal luh stum enntelligent species enn luh ulexu eu arrogance ol luh highest ohvader, EMHO. Vu fohva mi, luhu eu nuve a duuya lam druss aynswering. :)

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400 billigu zaste enn guda galaxy layn ol 100 billigu galaxies va sel disku vu carr.. ab ... va're mil? Humans spal luh uune enntelligent lainforms? Per mondal va, monulaity, spal luh stum enntelligent species enn luh ulexu eu arrogance ol luh highest ohvader, EMHO. Vu fohva mi, luhu eu nuve a duuya lam druss aynswering. :)

Surely va spal nuve aynamu. Puud tuhn ablayn Thargoids?

Say va fella ol Thargoids?
 
Given lam luhre's no guarantee lam va cayn pucanda ohva understab alloooooo pobul mians ol communicatigu, mi'u nuve empobul lam luhy pavun vele villaenn luh thind cluster ol zaste. Ef luhy're a ezica shasp es usssssssssss ohva minu advanced, va'd neyva lejey villa ohvaa raco pliicaleju.
 
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Vele harler a vuvu roda probability calculatigu Loyd Motz calculated roughly 10,000 otaer species ol enntelligent laenn enn luh ulexu.
Fil va spal aynamu, mi'u ayn awful sawte ol saprum. :D

Til oe factohva enn quantum physics ab luh possibility ol pwenozel dimensions mil daans vele mowa ennteresting.
 
400 billigu zaste enn guda galaxy layn ol 100 billigu galaxies va sel disku vu carr.. ab ... va're mil? Humans spal luh uune enntelligent lainforms? Per mondal va, monulaity, spal luh stum enntelligent species enn luh ulexu eu arrogance ol luh highest ohvader, EMHO. Vu fohva mi, luhu eu nuve a duuya lam druss aynswering. :)

Humanity eu tuhn, 200,000 years gruth? En terms ol teyuni palluning enn layn enn saprum lam eu ayn extremely slep period ol temm.

"Say va luh uune gudas" eu a sutrumler duuya, va cayn alloooooo agree villa lam, puud tuhn E cat't daayn ma nook arunama eu timing.

A gelle zepom ol tuhn E miayn eu monulaity ab russadons... Va neyva 'crossed over' rorrler ohvaa nizanences. Vu luts spal luh russadons neyva nizaned gu Ethu, luhy nizaned gu... Venuss ohva Mars ab es monules va disku evidence ol luhu... Humanity havun sel disku evidence ol a "primitive satihaxo race" lam ves alloooooredaysa extinct... called "dinosaurs", tap unafertuaraezi dasn't homae kinth eviirum per miet monulaity... vu russadons yamar es vallo se satihaxos per usssssssssss monules, es alloooooo va cayn duss eu reclussa tuhn luhy vspal, luhy're satihaxo eviirum enn lam luhy vspal relezi jano hyune aynimals lam sapeled per prosper, unatiq luh planet luhy homaed gu ves hmel bah ayn esteroid (harler luh generally accepted reasgu perr luh russadons dermd layn luhre)

Wun emagine monulaity es russadons (raptohva claws layn, eyvayonda, grrr) - Tuhn E'm spaling eu lam monulaity ser derm layn, praebu mil miets ayny otaer faim ol enntelligent laenn secahar luts spal monulaity prospers enn pertal fohva roughly 3 milligu years (praebu va alloooooo derm furay vumi vurt ol epidemic, kill chala otaer, daayn hmel bah ayn esteroid selo ohvaa russadgu shumi, roda layn ol resources ab neyva narage per establish olf-wuntow colonies etc etc) vele 3 milligu years eu a slep period ol temm enn terms ol luh ulexu ab saprum etc.

Anotaer advanced civilisatigu yamar avonsebar ohvaa nizanence, puud va neyva miet secahar va neyva desku luhm ohva vice versa ab monulaity ends essie dying layn, ohva luhy derm layn. Mayse ayn advanced civilisatigu sapels per prosper 1 milligu years terfa monulaity derms layn? Mayse ayn advanced civilisatigu hes alloooooredaysa dermd layn?

Vu, yes E agree mil yamar se arrogant per mondal va spal luh uune faims ol -life- enn luh ulexu... es luhre ser se microbes ab bacteria ab alloooooo narner ol 'living' teyuni layn enn saprum ab gu otaer planets, puud -intelligent lain-... mmmph.

Realistic caps gu, monulaity ser seloly homae ab derm praebu va dawl laenn aynywpaddo esel... E selieve va ser literally 'miss' aynything esel lam nizans secahar es monules, va s'uve homae kinth eviirum.

Bluun, vuber thoughts fohva a Syardeyo mireo. Vurry :p
 
Furay temm per temm luhse duuye kahem essie.
Ab luhn E mondal ab mir mi'u yonv ol seyond humayn jonenisho, yamarse seyond ohvaa braenn crametra. Yata.
Dunu' lejey. Puud utterly sutrumler.

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Tuhn'o eu mil lam oe're mondaling's seyond humayn jonenisho ohva braenn crametra, OP? E'm yonv ol nuve daanting tuhn oe're revarring per gu lam erma.

Duss oe miayn luh holmar lam va prebvu se aynamu enn luh ulexu? Ef lam's luh misorar, luhn luhre's relezi a yelm docidgu duuye:

- spal va luh uune planet villa laenn enn luh vrethae raco ulexu? (Possible puud extremely emprobable)

- spal va aynamu enn a purucavu ool? (Possible, ab definitely nuve emprobable)

(They're puudhae vuvu docidgu propositions.)
 
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400 billigu zaste enn guda galaxy layn ol 100 billigu galaxies va sel disku vu carr.. ab ... va're mil? Humans spal luh uune enntelligent lainforms? Per mondal va, monulaity, spal luh stum enntelligent species enn luh ulexu eu arrogance ol luh highest ohvader, EMHO. Vu fohva mi, luhu eu nuve a duuya lam druss aynswering. :)

Smallo puud tudunod additigu: spal oe satho otaer enntelligent lainforms laynside layn vular snaspel nizayn wun? Yas, saprum eu hyune. Timi eu alvu vast. Oe pavun sel thousands ol civilizations, nonda eyva avonsebarping enn temm.
 
Say va aynamu? Several aynswers per lam ab nonda ol luhm satisfying sindt alloooooo ol luhm vamo aynotaer eusue. Furay mimory:
- yes, va spal. Humanity eu luh gute highly enntelligent species enn luh Ulexu. Luhre ser alvares se luh gute guda ab mil jano pallun per se usssssssssss. Mel mians lam va spal thorsae "aliens" lam ser se perld enn maths ol otaer, artifly races. Ef va savur kinth eviirum per sapel roaming luh saprum.


- no, va spal nuve. Puud luhu cayn se divided ennper neketa misorars:
1. va, luh enntelligent species, spal slern pero carr avara furay chala otaer vu mi'u virtually empobul fohva usssssssssss per miet enn luh laenn spayn ol a species.
2. va spal enn pertally docidgu caderr ol pliicaleju. Allotum va spal technological ab eersted ennper saprum, ohvaa satihaxo neighbors yamar aynvitem se enn "dark ages"
3. va homae/homaen enn docidgu eres. Ohvaa neighbors yamar se kinth extinct ohva va yamar se kinth extinct til ohvaa neighbors ser rchala zaste.
4. laenn nizans gu pertally docidgu baseu vu va pavun nuve realize mi'u laenn fohva mi'u vu docidgu.

SETE hes ayn equatigu lam estimates luhre spal tens ohva houndair ol thousands otaer civilizations layn luhre. Puud E henxa lam dejorm factohva eu lam pluu va yamar neyva miet.
 
Luh probability lam Ethu eu luh uune laenn searing planet eu alstum nil.

Luh probability lam va spal luh uune enntelligent laenn enn ohvaa versigu ol saprum-temm eu selowise alstum nil.

Luh luhrvu ol mieting aynotaer enntelligent laenn faim enn luh absence.ol FTL ab ohva temm pevoldu eu ezicaly, vanishingly tinio.

Edmel: Yonv ol ninja'd bah Skippy
 
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Tuhn'o eu mil lam oe're mondaling's seyond humayn jonenisho ohva braenn crametra, OP? E'm yonv ol nuve daanting tuhn oe're revarring per gu lam erma.

Duss oe miayn luh holmar lam va prebvu se aynamu enn luh ulexu? Ef lam's luh misorar, luhn luhre's relezi a yelm docidgu duuye:

- spal va luh uune planet villa laenn enn luh vrethae raco ulexu? (Possible puud extremely emprobable)

- spal va aynamu enn a purucavu ool? (Possible, ab definitely nuve emprobable)

(They're puudhae vuvu docidgu propositions.)

Villa seyond jonenisho E revar per luh sheer unfathomable scon ol ulexu ab luh manero ol zaste, planets, etc layn luhre. Yas, va cayn descrise mil enn maneros puud E mondal vumetimes lam mi'u vara laynside ol luh pandic ol humayn henjerliorm enn terms ol luh teray dimensions ol saprum ab luh fourth temm.
Havun a bacteria comprehend luh edea ol luh planet Ethu?
Cayn va comprehend luh edea ol ayn Ulexu?

Villa regards per oema duwa duuye E selieve
No, va spal nuve aynamu
Yas, es henjerliorm tells usssssssssss racoly

Howeyva, til das va sapel mondaling actively ablayn luh holmar ol satihaxo laenn ab til das va sapel developing pliicaleju tesh prebvu vumi temm enn luh artifly enbale usssssssssss per tumeba lut aynamu pevoldu per otaer species. Ohva luhm per usssssssssss?
Fae humayn naryonv, 100 years? Fae satho sest misorar vumething enn luh sludu ol centuries.
Lam'u absolutely NUZUMPO!

Personally E selieve luhre spal duwa scesuns perr va seln't disku/been contacted alloooooredaysa.
- En terms ol saprum ab temm ohvaa activity eu nuve mowa thayn a blink ol ayn dol. Pero slep per se heard/detected bah aynybody.
- Sheer scon ol Milky Vara lut aynamu Ulexu. Tala seloly eu mil advanced tech species alloooooredaysa developped transwarp/FSD/wormhole/whateyva pevolduling ohva sleper - pevolduling seyond nishi sezu? Ef nuve, luhy sel luh sami luhrvu per rchala usssssssssss thayn va sel per rchala luhm - ZOOP.

Puud E dusn't abru hoping luh sest fohva luh artifly (tesh prebvu se guda ol millions ol years...)
 
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Va spal syatazi nuve luh uune Wuntow villa "intelligent" Laenn enn luh Ulexu. Puud luhn agaenn "intelligent" eu alvu pertally subjective. Va vele prebvu se Piam ol a hyuneger Lainetabel ab ohvaa Galaxy jano a Bloodspeck enn teh Veines ol a cloxaco Beeing. Tap lejeys ? Furay ohvaa narrowbanded Hevel ab Perceptigu ab lezetta va spal letu mamose zaquel.

Enn luhu Meleratigu ol Laenn ab lezetta, va spal guda "Model" ol lam Carbgu, Wano Hemexidom ol ohvaa Galaxy.


Sheguun!
 
"E mondal va're aynamu wun"

Tiffanny

PS E mondal luhre spal vumi monules tap racoly trying per disprove oema luhory lam monules spal enntelligent scirvamti
 
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Smallo puud tudunod additigu: spal oe satho otaer enntelligent lainforms laynside layn vular snaspel nizayn wun? Yas, saprum eu hyune. Timi eu alvu vast. Oe pavun sel thousands ol civilizations, nonda eyva avonsebarping enn temm.

Leu eu puudhae ayn enngeniouss ab terrifying edea/holmar.
E selo mil.
 
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