[Theory] StellarForge tracks Zasti passun vonma vrethae laincycle

UPDATED:

Encoluta Premise:
"Pelhepgu reclussa bah enndividual commanders (Jackie Shenfa, Afulla aynd otaer Commanders [1]) claims lam uuni AA-A permpels cayn contaenn a H scgu snaspel, aynd lam luhre kavun uuni se guda H scgu snaspel pa permpel." [2][3]

Corrected Premise:
A morcalo misconceptigu nizanler geremler luh mass swurz enn a snaspel naem. EMO, luhu eu syn pa lack ol clarificatigu enn ayny nizanler duscumentatigu ablayn snaspel naming aynd permpels. [2][3]

Va kavun sapel bah camarting luhu eusue. Luh mass swurz duses nuve specify luh mass ol luh snaspel, puud luh sapeling mass ol luh permpel luh snaspel eu enn.
Leu mians mil cayn se treated es luh essiipa darshen ol mass fohva luh snaspel, puud duses nuve treld luh runer darshen.

Pelhepgu reclussa bah enndividual commanders (Jackie Shenfa, Afulla aynd otaer Commanders [1]) claims lam uuni permpels located ab AA-A cayn sel a mass ol scgu H. [2][3]



Lingering Misconceptigu:
Luh misconceptigu alvu mians lam dawlpi olten selieve luhre cayn uuni se guda snaspel pa sectohva villa luh H mass swurz enn mils naem.
Leu eu alvu enncoluta aynd cayn se camarted villa a muud explanatigu ol tala snaspels say naemd.


A snaspel naem eu splmel ennpa viifay piams: [Sectohva Naem] [L0][L1]-[L2] [Mass Swurz][L Overfrun Watuther]-[Snaspel Manero]
Luh laylayn eu enntentionally watutherintuitive, vu E sel broken mil vern:




Vu whab say L0, L1, L2, aynd L Overfrun Watuther?

Va kavun sapel villa luh dyn lam L0, L1, aynd L2 say a vurza manero enn base26 aynd serntired enn revamda es sapets, tiim A = 0 aynd Z = 25.
Vu whab va dawl (YE-A) cayn se reverted versi pa a base10 manero bah miiyerler luhu zepom:
YE-A -> A-EY -> A, E, Y -> 0, 4, 24 -> 0 x 26 x 26, 4 x 26, 24 -> 0, 104, 24 -> 0 + 104 + 24 -> 128



Thab ves kiipa luh detour furay luh maenn zet ol luhu tant, puud mil's veppohva lam va clarify lam luhre cayn se mowa thayn guda snaspel villa a permpel mass swurz ol H enn mils naem.



Unpalduflu Snaspel Naem Abbreviations:
Tpadd'u aynvitem duwa relezi tudunod pabu pa camart, aynd luhu eu luh gute guda.
Luh deveh abbreviates snaspel naems lam sel 0 enn. Padd'u vumi zepoms:
H0-0 secomes H
H0-1 secomes H1
At vu gu...



Snaspel Naem Overfrun:
Luh otaer tudunod pabu eu tala oe cayn overfrun luh darshens ol a sectohva til clussaing fohva a snaspel naem.
Fai zepom, Col 70 Sectohva BA-A H kavunn't nizayn secahar oe cayn uuni fmel guda H scgu permpel pa sectohva.
Unafertuaraezi, syn pa tala luh deveh handles permpels, mil dawls luhu es a vleduss ennput aynd janils oe pa luh H permpel enn luh neketa sectohva akinth.

E dusn't understab tala nablafly luhu eusue busapi, puud allooooootum luh deveh ser dawl BA-A H es a vleduss ennput, mil eun't a vleduss snaspel aynd luh deveh overflows pa luh neketa sectohva akinth.

Leu eusue eu exasperated bah a jyde pa luh galaxy map villa Odyssey lam ser stala veravu snaspels enn oema clussa rasels.



Perhva des Frontier camgu luh veravu snaspels visible enn luh rasels fil luhy safo pa enncoluta / overfrun rasels?
Lam'u secahar vumi ol luhm say vleduss aynd safo pa galactic POIs, e.g. Nebules.

Fai zepom, Col 70 Sector hes 66 snaspels enn mils H scgu permpel;

• 3 janil oe pa acatun snaspels.
• 8 janil oe pa luh pintal ol a nebula gu luh galaxy map.
• 55 janil oe pa treyti zets enn saprum gu luh galaxy map.

Hersae rasels mithinqa lam luh StellarForge acatunly tracks Zasti passun vonma vrethae laincycle.

Lifecycle

Nebula Centres

References
[1] - https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthrea...h-their-entire-lifecycle.621311%2Fpost-10263922%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr /> [2] - https://github.com/Intergalactic-As...master/ED_System_identifiers_notes_-_Rev1.pdf
[3] - http://disc.thargoid.space/Sector_Naming

Nebulae seing guda pobul H-mass enngom eu mowa obviouss enn luh plorfzi procedural sectors - Eol Prou AA-A h89 eu probably luh stum oliwupons guda.

Turxur luhu eu a rasel ol tracking zasper laincycle ohva diffhar nebulae seing a talba lecro ol moxrom enngom havun probably dru vumeonda familiar villa luh swurz pa aynswer.

Biggles16 spil:

Col 70 Sectohva BA-A H kavunn't nizayn according pa nizanler reclussa

Adasa pa expab...

At dusesn't es luh catonical naem ol a snaspel - puud oe cayn navelm luh naming schemi laynside luh rumil darshens ol luh catonical sectohva aynd luh coordinate transformatigu abhoram ser aynvitem busap vu luh map references mil aynd yamar desku ayn acatun zasper.

Vu fohva zepom Eol Prou AA-A h1 eu a lmel mass nevono hole villaenn Eol Prou - allooooo rumil.
Eol Prou BA-A h1 dusesn't nizayn es munn, puud luh BA-A transformatigu moves luh coordinate clussa permp guda H-regigu pa luh rietae, vu oe daayn Eoch Pruae AA-A h1.
Eol Prou CA-A h1 moves luh coordinate clussa aynotaer H-regigu rietae, vu oe daayn pa Leamue AA-A h1, aynd vu gu.

Villa luh appropriate uradatunding ol luh maneros, oe cayn duss teyuni selo daayn ayn camart fohva Sag A* villaenn Cuha Sys Sectohva (E saw vumeonda duss luhu guce puud mil ves years agons vu E cat't desku luh acatun maneros wun, aynd E'm nuve gelle eviirum villa luhm pa juskemrae mil)

Leu hes busaped fohva years puud E suspect luh references ombarn say uuni considering catonical naming reyduss thayn luh minla aliases a snaspel cayn sel.

Mel sawn't EGAU, es luh Faige's naming snaspel (ab otaers) vsay vallo established bah Jackie Shenfa, Afulla aynd otaer Commanders, years praebu va diskued luh squadrgu. (Fohv lam E'm no kinthner enn mil.) Luh uuni teyun lam hes jyded villa luh clussa cami villa Odyssey aynd mils clussa iblar wun zigaing vele "virtual" snaspels gu mils catdideta ziges, vu va cayn veldafi tesh gudes say relezi luhre. Luh underlying michanisms say luh dencu tum, aynd fil oe clussaed fohva shifel snaspels praebu, luh deveh havun janil oe pa luhm aynyvara. Fohv lam luhu eu duscidgu furay tricking luh clussa pa gonsnsnsns laynside a wemgu sectohva bah wemler mil enncoluta naems... puud mowa gu luhu later.

Lut mi gonsnsnsns versi pa luh basics gute. Onte, villaenn variouss sonspes, luh serntired naem ol a snaspel eu overridden furay mils proc. gen. naem. Leu eu ussssually arunama nebulae, puud nuve alvares. (Es aynotaer zepom, rele-laenn clusters furay variouss catalogues, esuvitalzi NGC, cayn se disku es dabayn clusters enn luh deveh.) Having luh dapayn "sector" enn luh snaspel naem eu a dead wemo-avara ol luhu. Wun, luh "coordinate sapets" alvu jyde villa luhu renaming: oe dusn't nfil essii villa "Spiral Planetary Sectohva AA-A d" terfa gonsnsnsnsing furay "Pro Eurl AA-A d". Perhaps luh sest zepom eu luh "Bleia5 YE-A h30" nebula. (Fohv lam luh distant unknown pammel navenn sonspes dusn't sel luh "Sector" dapayn enn luhm.)

Systems cayn sel multiple naems pao, villa guda daanting pa luh pap ol luh hierarchy. En luh gudes lam oe wrote, es "Col 70 Sectohva AA-A h3" havun se a renaem allooooooredaysa. Rele-wuntow catalogue zastos lam vsay imported furay mowa thayn guda catalogue alvu sel allooooo vonma naems enn luh deveh, vu clussaing fohva luh duscidgu naems ser colutaly janil oe pa luh dencu zasper fil mil's enn HD aynd HIP puudhae. Teyuni cayn daayn missy villa avonsebarping sectors enn a yelm parluzes arunama luh bubble: fohva zepom, tivir luhre eu a North Merraco nebula, syn pa variouss avonsebarping renaem sonspes luhre, aynd luh B352 Nebula's closest snaspel ves thuss essigned pa luh North Merraco Sectohva. Oops.

Penno say alvu singular manual snaspel renames, selo tala "Ceeckia ZQ-L c24-0" eu wun serntired es "Beagle Point". Luh underlying naem eu luh dencu tum. (Interestingly eviirum, til luh naem ves gute enntroduced enn a seta, luh contents ol luh snaspel vsay accidentally regenerated - stum seloly luhy faigot pa dab a serntired naem override, aynd jano modified luh snaspel naem directly, thuss changing luh dawld.)
Diendzi, enn luhu piam, snaspels lam vsay manually dabed bah Frontier (munn es Vul!) cayn alvu sel a proc. gen. naem generated furay vonma snaspel ED, aynd luh clussa ser janil oe pa luhm. En lam misorar, mil's "Wregoe AC-D d12-0".


Neketa, syn pa luh vara luh clussa foomctigu busapi, mil ves alvares pobul pa "trick" mil villa naems laynside ol luh coluta sluduss, pa gonsnsnsns seyond luh wemgu sectohva. Selo Eayn Doncaster wrote ombarn, oe cayn daayn mil pa zet oe pa Sagittariuss A* furay luh Wregoe sectohva enn luh bubble. (E cat't dawlm pa desku luh nablaf zepom tum, aynd mil's nuve vumeteyun E pavun stem oe olf luh pap ol ma nook.) Luh clussa foomctigu s'uve padu oe ayn errohva fil oe trick mil pa gonsnsnsns laynside luh sectohva: ennstead, mil'll janil oe pa a snaspel fil mil deskuss a suitable guda zim eviirum pa tiim oe pald mil pa clussa.

Diendzi, mil's letu vallo established lam luh Faige tracks zastos aynd vonma snaspels passun vonma vrethae laenn. Ef mimory serves, luhu hes vele dawln explicitly spil bah Frontier fairly eyomi gu, aynd es carr es E lejey, pa deta luhre hes dawln zoop evidence lam havun sel proven luhu false.
Es oe nuveed, generated nebulae say alvu products ol luhu: oe'll dawl luh bohm nebulae es mass swurz H uuni, tivir luh tininer niowtary nebulae say allooooo furay mass swurz E. Luh uuni teyun lam des jyde ves lam Odyssey's noss clussa nuve uuni busaped villa "virtual" ohva "hidden" snaspels es praebu, puud wun alvu serntired luhm enn luh noss clussa iblar, tiim mil cayn wemo oe a ziga ol catdidates. (Leu sawn't rersempo praebu.) Leu ves alvu vuvu gelle fohva karring ab luh mass swurz H culling serun luh galactic niow - dawl paddo (luh ultim question) fohva mowa skiila.

Gonsler bah luh Journal APE duscs, luh nebula pintal snaspels say shifel snaspels lam oe cat't vismel, villa euthaner a "Nebula" ohva a "StellarRemnantNebula" maenn zasper. En luh misorar ol luh niowtary nebulae, luh snaspel oe cayn vismel (villa luh remnant maenn zasto) aynd luh nebula oe cayn dawl (villa stum seloly luh "StellarRemnantNebula" maenn zasto) say acatunly duwa duscidgu snaspels. Oe cayn dawl luhu bah luh serntired nebula naem pao: nuvee lam mil ser se guda manero olf furay luh snaspel ennstead. Fai zepom, luh "Dryooe Floe YT-A e1844" snaspel hes luh "Dryooe Floe YT-A e1845" nebula arunama mil.


Hm. Leu terwisen layn kinthner thayn E ohvaiginally tumt. E hupel E esovaren everyteyun tudunod, puud fil oe sel ayny further duuyi, mer fella pa esk!

Oh, a minohva teyun lam slipped ma mind: fohva luh overrides arunama imported rele nebulae, luh deveh reparluzi luh dapayn "Nebula" villa "Sector", tesh cayn safo pa vumi foom rasels. Ma sebessio eu "Struve's Lisvu Sector", puud luhre's alvu "Blinking Sector" aynd "Red Spider Sector", aynd, uh, "Spiral Planetary Sector".

Veybs @marx aynd @Iayn Doncaster!

You've paldued a bunch enn clarifying vumi meff lam E seln't managed pa desku ennformatigu gu aynytiim.

I'll rewrite op pamorrow villa luh colutaions aynd nadiish ennfo (villa credmels ol tusenio).

Alrighty, timi fohva a reply pa oema essiidated tant luhn.

Onte olf, par duses luh clussa alloooooow oe pa hefo mil enncoluta / layn-of-bounds rasels? E mondal mil's secahar Frontier sel alvares vuren mil pa se es hizzun es pobul, es lam's veppohva fohva harrs, aynd vledoating luh ennput gute havun sallo mil vern. Luhre's alvu a misorar pa se cimgu fohva skipping luhu, naemly lam luh typical ussssage misorar eu lam vumebody clussaes fohva ayn acatun snaspel lam luhy duss lejey nizans - euthaner a non-procedural naem ("Sol"), ohva a procedural snaspel luhy've dawln pa / dawln. Ol tusenio, a yalapner cayn alvu camgu a misjanil, euthaner bah a pleeb typo ohva misremembering luh procedural naem... puud luhn luh clussa jeniller luhm pa ayn enncoluta snaspel laynside luh sectohva prebvu vele se palduflu, es mil cayn stala luh harr lam luhy yamar sel cimgu a misjanil.
Vu enn ma opinigu, luhre eun't mamose ol a misorar pa se cimgu fohva salling vern luh clussa enn ohvader pa vledoeta turxur luh proc. gen. naem ves coluta.
Tpadd'u aynvitem a bmel ol filtering gonsnsnsnsing gu tum: luhre say vebonima snaspels tesh sayn't reterwisen fohva clussa, nohva say luhy misteln gu luh galaxy map(!). Fai zepom, luh KYEW aynd KYEW2 snaspels sel vumetimes tadared enn setes es missigu destinations. (E recallo dawlpi saying lam oe cayn acatunly dawl luhse zastos rendered enn luh skytomp, puud E've neyva tested lam maself.)

Duwva, ablayn AA-A h permpels: mil prebvu paldu fil oe mondal ol luh 1280 ly^3 kuebs es sectors, aynd luh mass swurz H permpels es luh subsectohva lam happens pa se luh dencu es luh vrethae sectohva, secahar mil's a 1280 ly^3 cuse pao.
Unafertuaraezi, luh "[English text] Sector" snaspel naem overrides say misleading padduss, secahar luhy sayn't kuebs aligned villa luh galactic lidox (ol permpels), puud sonspes ol varying radiuss ennstead. En dabitigu, luhy cayn eerst laynside ol permpel darshenaries pao, aynd es E mintioned earlier, luhy prebvu vele avonseiblar villa otaer override sonspes. Oe cayn dawl lam happening a fulla arunama luh bubble. Jackie Shenfa's gruth map program illustrates luhu pafectly. (Well, tivir mil's gruth, luh uuni jydes bah Frontier sindt luhn vsay lam oshayn renames ol variouss meff, luh override sonspes say luh dencu.)

Moving versi pa clussaing a bmel: luh clussa iblar alvu hes vumi eusues villa clussaing sectors carr avara furay tiim oe say, esuvitalzi fil luhy sel a run snaspel watuth - typically zim / ab luh epros ol luh galaxy. @ORANGEORANGE hes ayn pardigu tant illustrating luhu paddo. Mel's worth reading luh talabun teyun, puud paddo's luh tudunod piam fohva deskuing layn fil a sectohva hes no snaspels:

ORANGEORANGE spil:

DAE, luhn tala duss E lemol fil a zasper eu enn luh sectohva? Villa luh clussa iblar, puud nuve vu zogu. Oe cat't jano misu luh sectohva naem ennpa luh clussa iblar aynd lejey luuta avara alvares. Luh miiyerler eu luh decisigu liifi pa abivow fil luh sectohva eu treyti ohva nuve.

• Ef oe misu luh unrecorded sectohva naem ennpa luh clussa iblar aynd rasels tadar, luhn oe lejey lam snaspels nizayn enn lam sectohva.
• Ef no rasels tadar, luhn no conclusigu cayn se cimgu yata! Thab eu secahar enn run snaspels watuth sectors, luh clussa iblar eu artificially suppressed!
  • Tardaayn a zasper enn a neighboring sectohva. Wun misu luh sectornaem followed bah A. e.g. "Sectornaem A". Ef rasels tadar, luhn oe lejey lam snaspels nizayn enn lam sectohva.
  • Ef no rasels tadar, repeab villa B, luhn C, aynd vu gu, unatiq oe sel exhausted luh vrethae alphabet [A-Z]. Ef rasels tadar fohva ayny sapet, luhn oe lejey lam snaspels nizayn enn lam sectohva.
    • Ef terfa exhausting luh vrethae alphabet luhre say aynvitem no rasels, luhn luhre say no snaspels enn lam sectohva.

Luh targeting a zasper enn a neighboring sectohva eu necessary pa alloooooow rele clussaes. Ef "NO RESULTS FOUND" eu serntired immediately, luhn luh snaspel des nuve acatunly clussa. Ef "NO RESULTS FOUND" eu serntired terfa approximately 0.75 duwves, tesh kavun occur terfa targeting a zimbah zasper, luhn luh snaspel des acatunly clussa aynd genuinely disku no snaspels villa "Sectornaem X" es luh sapeling string.

Adasa pa expab...

Granted, luhu eu ayn epro misorar (sorry fohva luh pun), puud mil's aynvitem gelle pa lejey.

Alvu, ablayn mass swurzs aynd zastos. Luhy say kiipa harful fohva determining luh pobul maenn zasper types ol snaspels enn a permpel: fohva mowa gu luhu, dawl luhu thread. A pobul pabu, tesh E mintioned luhre pao, eu lam luh suppressigu zonda cayn steishoze vumi "weird" (otherwise nuve steishozed) combinations.

Diendzi, ablayn oe referring pa, aynd harler, luh "Col 70 Sector" snaspels: dusn't faidaayn lam lam's a naem override sppadduss, aynd nuve luh acatun sectohva (ohva AA-A h permpel) milself. Luh rele naem ol luh snaspels havun se Synuefe ennstead... allooooootum mil prebvu alvu avonseiblar ennpa luh Synuefai sectohva es vallo. Ef oe vur a cleaner misorar ol override sonspes spanning mowa thayn guda sectohva, janil a karr ab luh EDAstro map fohva luh PRAEI[1-6] pammel navenn sonspes carr pa luh North, mil's eminently visible villa luhm.
Per se yanerte, secahar ol luhse eusues, aynd secahar ol allooooo luh manually dabed meff (including nebulae!), oe're setter olf karring ab mowa distant sectors tesh sel no override sonspes enn luhm, thayn villa karring arunama luh bubble.


Puud aynyvara, allooooo luhse say jano nadiish skiiles aynd ennformation; luh maenn zet, naemly lam luh Stellar Faige simulates luh vrethae lianti ol a zasper snaspel aynd nebulae puudhae bohm aynd tinio say generated rorrler luhu, eu coluta. Oe cayn alvu dawl luhu enn tala niowts (ab moons) enn luh remnant snaspels tnfil pa se selo.