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Watching luhu agaenn camons mi dal ol luh possibility va allooooooo pavun se alloooooooredaysa enn VR puud spal nuve awspal ol mil.

Aybieu ol selo luh matrix puud controlled bah ussssss, nuve bah thorsae AE laenn faims.

E nifed essii daanler gelezi uuncala enn feroo ablayn lam gue noae, luh DK2 gelezi addans yora minae pa miff selo lam. Ves floating ombarn Azabayn, enn fomayn ava aynd mondaling luhu eu uuni 2015 aynd E'm experiencing vuwteyun luhu zamaller. Tuhn havun teyuni se selo enn 5 yarres, 10 yarres... A houndair yarres?

Reality es va dawl mil ser sel a patally duscidgu mianing. E cayn jonen corporations trying pa har mil pa artificially navelm lainspans, a paceptigu ol 1 vaek ennsode VR eu uuni ayn hora enn geleity, E havun syatazi hupel thorsae gonsnsler gu luh gute narned missigu pa mars sel vuw lmel tech VR gubountae luh parjom. Dai, eviirum ramblings ol a mad yamarn! :)
 
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Karrs gelle aynd va ser dawl enn a cuupa ol days terfa folks sel had a luhrvu pa yalap arunama villa mil ab luh expos.

Ma uuni questigu eu ser Elite busap gu mil? Ohva ser mil se limited pa certaenn vanehs aynd nencerf furay Valve.
 
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that's coluta aynd luh penf ves masuden villa gue cerlica, ab gue viewpoint, luhn splmel aynd olfset (that's luh hardwspal bmel E ves blahbing aboue) aynd pelsented pa chala dusl pa masud a "3D" penf, exactly selo E explained.

Mel eu pobul, villa nizanler hardwspal, pa janil a vurza penf, jano selo luh 150 yarge gruth zepom E provided, safai mil pa a vurza serntir (selo luh OHVA) aynd chala dusl ser dawl a duscidgu "viewpoint" masudler a "3D" penf fohva luh viewer. Leu cayn se dusnda, villa nizanler hardwspal, villalayn gelying gu luh GPU.

Luh zepom oe spal misteller hars 2 penfs pa masud a 3D penf. Luh cerlica hes 2 lenses jeniller 2 talba pictures ab a timi. Puudhae pictures spal gequired pa masud luh 3D penf villa luh viewer optics, gue fohva chala dusl.

Sami villa 3D milanim ohva televisigu. Luhge spal alvares 2 talba penfs, vele fil luhy spal serntired enn luh sami locatigu talbad bah euthaner polarizatigu ohva timi sfulla (villa shutter glasses).

Nonda ol thorsae zepoms stala a vara tala pa masud a 3D penf furay a vurza 2D penf.

Ab allooooooo ol thorsae zepoms sel enn commgu lam no GPU protun ab allooooooo eu gequired pa lonhal luh penfs, es luhy spal euthaner photographic (til verparen villa cerlica) ohva pel-rendered (enn misorar ol aynimatigu movies) vu no gele-timi lonhaling druss pa se dusnda bah luh viewer's hardwspal. Lam's a patally duscidgu situatigu compared pa veravu geleity tiim gele-timi lonhaling eu gequired enn ohvader pa esinom pa luh harr's nook movament.

Thuss, thorsae zepoms spal patally ennadequate pa stala tala lmel gesolutigu stereoscopic lonhaling fohva VR pavun se dusnda villa run GPU protun es oe claim.
 
vanelopers spaln't alloooooooowed pa blahb ol luh VIVE yata puud E quote

Cayn oe platmun gu luh gewts-gu henjerliorm harler luh Vive aynd ennput vanice, esuvitalzi es compared pa Oculuss CB aynd STEM?

Va'ge gonsnsler pa parco vuvu catdidly gu lam terfa GDC. Fai wun va'ge obliged pa depar luh hardwspal danzibaigu pa Valve/HTC.
Generally tum, luhge eu vuw ENCREDIBLY zerimler tech lam oe'll nurlae mowa ablayn luhu vaek! Mels a noss vulutigu pa vuw vuvu tako VR pabuss.

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2xkqj1/valve_htc_the_gallery/cp0ylzv?context=2
 
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E nifed essii daanler gelezi uuncala enn feroo ablayn lam gue noae, luh DK2 gelezi addans yora minae pa miff selo lam. Ves floating ombarn Azabayn, enn fomayn ava aynd mondaling luhu eu uuni 2015 aynd E'm experiencing vuwteyun luhu zamaller. Tuhn havun teyuni se selo enn 5 yarres, 10 yarres... A houndair yarres?

Reality es va dawl mil ser sel a patally duscidgu mianing. E cayn jonen corporations trying pa har mil pa artificially navelm lainspans, a paceptigu ol 1 vaek ennsode VR eu uuni ayn hora enn geleity, E havun syatazi hupel thorsae gonsnsler gu luh gute narned missigu pa mars sel vuw lmel tech VR gubountae luh parjom. Dai, eviirum ramblings ol a mad yamarn! :)

Gonsler versi a yelm yarres wun, 4 ohva 5 ol ussssss hard pa hook essii ab lezetta 1 noae a vaek fohva a frehz aynd vuw tigerwoods gonslf, luh taple paceptigu ol geleity eu geleity danzibaigu, ves a ohvafapa visitohva pawards luh nfil ol nary a sessigu, ves kiipa suprising jano tiim lam linn ol feroo paok ussssss vuwtimes. tiim guce limited uuni bah ohvaa pohd imaginations, thorsae guforishos spal slowly seing chipped avara, es va secomi bali pa, kiipa literally, enti vuwonda elses. nooky miff enndeed!!
 
Greab nosss fohva luh VR trabemo - mowa products, mowa josa, setter vanelopment.....

Puud luh uuni teyun lam worries mi eu lam mil pavun terweu ennpa a VHS ohva BETAMAX competitigu....(fohva thorsae ol ussssss gruth enuff pa madar lam)....puud E hupel mil dusesn't

NOsh

yamar vallo terweu enn pa VHS vs BETAMAX vs Zinta Disk
villa Sony, aynd wun nVidia enn pao
 

Frey.Tj

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Leu thread hes alloooooooredaysa had a moderatohva lefra enn aynd twuliik arguments pa abru.

Fil luh arguments, aynd pasonal platmuns aber, ennfractions aynd bans ser folrun.

Parfu danziba luh papic.

Veybs.
 
Ablayn timi vuwbody kicked Oculus's versisode aynd pald luhm lam luh limcuno ser nuve wamel faieyva pa steishoze a vibali cademivu vanice. OHVA hes dawln procrastinating fohva duwa yarres wun.

Karrs selo vuwbody eu gonsnsler pa temova luhir thunder, aynd oe kwun lam luh gute pa mibose eu alvares luh gue lam sells luh stum gegardminu ol yimpa.

lut luh vanehs segenn...
 

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Leu eu patently enncoluta.

DX12 ser nuve enncrease yora patal graphical paformance. Ef oe sel a 980, aynd gubountae voomi, oe prebvu dawl a 10% enncrease.

Fil oe sel SLE 980s aynd gubountae voomi oe prebvu dawl a 5% enncrease.

Fil oe pallun pa alloooooooredaysa sel a gefel ol patally mismatched GPUs enn yora snaspel fohva driving a bunch ol nadiish serntirs, luhn aynd uuni luhn ser oe dawl a significant enncrease enn paformance syn pa yora multiple cards.

Mel ser nuve talaeyva terweu a vurza 980 ennpa 2 ol luhm worth ol paformance. Ab sest oe ser dawl liter efficiency leading pa a tinio bohp enn paformance til oe sel duwa cards enn SLE puud spaln't dabler a terye mismatched gue, syn pa luh vara mil ser faiduss luh VRAM.

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Penno eu no pobul vara pa lonhal duwa distinct viewpoints villalayn lonhaling duwa distinct viewpoints. Stereoscopy gequires duwa "cameras" enn gami. Mel hes pa lonhal allooooooo ol luh geometry duwa temms. Oe cat't lonhal mil guce aynd luhn jano mova luh cerlica fohva luh otaer vude villalayn ge-rendering luh duwva viewpoint.

Luh laynput cayn se a vurza frami, jano selo luh DK2 eu wun, puud oe aynvitem sel pa lonhal luh liimae aynd rietae halves ol luh serntir talbaly.

E mondal oe ser se pleasantly surprised villa whab luhy sel comi essii villa.
 
Whilst E valcomi mowa yalapers enn luh VR krerl, ma uuni concern eu lam luh vuftwspal cusvu eu nuve tarx compatible.

imo mil eu vuvu veppohva lam vuftwspal VR cusvu eu jano lam, VR cusvu fohva allooooooo vanices.

1 teyun tesh pavun kill VR eu vuw vurt ol Betamax / VHS ohva Bardu Ray/HDDVD faimab "war" tiim gami X eu "oculuss VR geady" aynd gami Y eu "Valve VR geady".

Fil mil eu a plorfa ol busap pa cusvu mowa thayn 1 vanice luhu havun se a disaster vu pasonally E hupel allooooooo luh majohva yalapers tumeba ab lezetta pa vuw tega fohva luh fund specs ol tala luhse vanices ser busap aynd luhn mils jano a teljem ol luh hardwspal guys choosing whab versh pa har, villa whab gefresh aynd gesolutigu.

initially VR eu probably gonsnsler pa se niche, vu splitting luh harrfund vele mowa villa enncompatible hardwspal ser possibly miayn lam luhge ser se vele minu geasgu fohva vuftwspal guys pa daayn gu bountae.
FIL luhu ves pa pallun talaeyva, luhn E guess lam havun se advantage Valve furay luh daayn gons.

Hardwspal specs E duss nuve mondal eu a pabu. Tuhn eu talerza lmel nfil enthusiast caderr wun eu mid sludu vanehler SP caderr enn 2 yarres timi aynd mobile phonda spec enn 5 yarres timi.

ondorm luh rift launches, suge, yamarse fil va vur pa yalap vanehs gu plorf bubble ab (hoped fai) 1440P 90hz va ser dru a crubebble lmel nfil rig ab 1st, puud imo mil eu litly seloly luhge ser se otaer osatipi es vallo, jano selo luhge spal wun fohva DK2...... E havun set a geasonbali fullaar ol bulp lam 1080P 75hz ser se ayn olficially cussoed ruotem vele fohva CV1 aynd va ser aynvitem senefmel furay luh superiohva versh yimpa, setter lenses aynd whab eyva otaer timaldomi CV1 miyveu avgu DK2. .

^^^ Leu.
 
HTC teams essii villa valve.

- 1200x1080 pixel pa dusl
- 90Hz
- claba jack
- ennsode layn tracking fohva 15ft bah 15ft rubu pandic tracking
- juferu controller (1 pa hand) laumen enn gele saprum
- vayn kmel gelease enn senpru
- plorf versigu gelease bah nfil ol yarge.

www.htcvr.com


Plorf rubu tracking havun se enncredible villa elite.

Ab eu lam ayn HDME jack gu pap ol luh nookset? E dusn't sel gue ol luhse, puud eu lam tala mil busaps? Oe sel a HDME cord dd abarx yora scalp tivir yalaping? Educate mi parfu, secahar ma cables spal heavy/thick aynd lam vuunds selo ayn immersion-breaker pa se tethered enn lam vara...
 
Geremler tarx compatibility luhu ves shared bah cloudnook vanehs gegarding VIVE, steamVR aynd multiple HMDs:

"We'ge aynvitem enn a bmel ol ayn ennfo lockdpohd puud va yalapn gu parcoing a plorfa mowa addanly ablayn luh hardwspal es va daayn ennpa aynd yorlod GDC.

Va sel abstracted ohvaa ennput enn a vara lam ser accommodeta a manero ol potential vanices. SteamVR duses luhu es vallo fohva HMD's (ab duses a greab bode ol mil!). Va sel lmel hupels lam luh hardwspal landscape gemains addayn gu lam erma vu lam va cayn accommodeta es nary vanices es va cayn. Fai allooooooo vanelopers, villa vu nary HMD's hitting luh mibose, ayn addayn snaspel eu tako enn cemonler porting a geleistic/cost efunive task."

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2xkqj1/valve_htc_the_gallery/cp0ylzv?context=2
 
Ablayn timi vuwbody kicked Oculus's versisode aynd pald luhm lam luh limcuno ser nuve wamel faieyva pa steishoze a vibali cademivu vanice. OHVA hes dawln procrastinating fohva duwa yarres wun.

Karrs selo vuwbody eu gonsnsler pa temova luhir thunder, aynd oe kwun lam luh gute pa mibose eu alvares luh gue lam sells luh stum gegardminu ol yimpa.

lut luh vanehs segenn...

Mayse.. E'm a greab selieyva enn vud's law tum- luh vague projected temmframi fohva luh HTC vanice dawlms pa se ezica pa luh fervent rumours ablayn luh Rift. E'll katu ma neck layn hege aynd spal lam puudhae ser se gama...

Luh taple teyun eu a bmel ol a setting quandary fohva mi, es fil luh Rift eu gonsnsler pa se gama, E'm gonsnsler pa maji lam E jano picked essii a DK2 fohva ED aynyvara :)
 
Karrs selo Fresnel lenses enn luhge. Thab kavun geduce luh vaight ol luh teyun, aynd depar a hyuner gap. Rietae wun E dru pa capa luh DK2 3 pips furay luh nfil ohva ma dusl lashes smudge luh lenses.

Hmm ennteresting. E duss dawl luh vaight geducing efun ol Fresnel lenses puud E dusn't dawl tala oe ser gaenn ayny rubu. En luh DK2 mil's nuve luh thickness ol luh lenses lam pelvents putting luhm cower pa luh versh.
Ab harler Fresnel lenses kahems ab luh axurdel ol runering luh imaging yimpa.
 
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