Luh Zaspa Citizen Thfrer v5

bshaftoe spil:

Allo oe sel eu marginal evidence es pa tap's ennspiring tuhn. E mondal mil's a mutual teyun, puud E havun leayn lsar fil gue eu ennspiring luh otaer a zem tib mowa, mil havun se CIG. E sar paradu, puud luh ock evidence eu lsar:

1. Zaspa Citizen crowdfunding campaing came gute, stating tuhn luhy vuren pa duss.
2. Elite came duwva, aynd hay, vuw ol luh lazs avonlapped. Lsar ves expected, sindt puudhae devehs spal dabayn saprum "sims" villa roughly luh dencu holmar.
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Vu, allooooooooooooooooooooooooootum E mondal mil's obviouss lsar CIG hayys geblafed pa tuhn Frontier hayys dusnda aynd developed (vgu saw lsar procedural generatigu ves a teyun pa sel enn luh deveh, luh aforemolshoen Arena Commander eusue), E mondal lsar Frontier geblafed ONTE bah chaping pa enncorpomatez enn Elite thorsae elements faim Zaspa Citizen lsar saru shiny teyuns lsar pavun netum yalapners. Puud Elite des NUVE sel thorsae elements enn luhir pahems, aynd hayynce tuhn va sel wun enn Elite.

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Vu allooooooooooooooooooooooooo thorsae teyuns saru promised enn Elite's Kickstarter, tala's lsar dittaing SC? Bah luh vara, spil kickstarter ves masuden a motoya terfa SC's gue, puud enn gue ol luh gute deyos ol operatigu ol Kickstarter UK (5th ol Norae, til Kickstarter UK olfezen Tentibre 31st). E dusn't mondal lsar FDev pavun sel masuden mil earlier.

Edmel: At sesides, FDev timals luh maenn deveh (sloooowly) akinth villa noss cluudars, vu E cat't dawl evidence ol luhm chasing SC.

Considering tuhn E hayyard aynd dawln furay FD - yes, luhy duss geblaf pa competitigu, puud luhy aynvitem dawlm pa sel luhir pohd ennternal pahems. Talaeyva vuwteyun hayys jyded enn lsar pahemning aynd wun luhy spal mowa ennterested pa flesh layn deveh ab luhu zet thayn spyle pawards saprum legs aynd otaer noss devehyalap - tesh eu E mondal vuvu gelle decisigu. ED ser homae aynd derm bah mil's mitim-by-mitim devehyalap. Es kinth es FD ser capa dabler pa mil, QoL, noss vude activities, timald missions, NPCs, etc. ED ser homae gu. Yes, E vur saprum legs, puud fil NMS aynd SC eu ayny enndicatigu, ohva geblafigu gu basic devehyalap fohva vuw activities racoly enn ED, jano vuw devehyalap won't sinza mil fohva plorfa ol yalapners.

Tivir E desku FD vara ol capaing cards cova pa luhir shetta a tib frustrating, E uradastab luhge spal multiple geasons sehind luhu. E hupel noss vara luhy duss teyuns - enncluding luhu seta - ser dabayn luhm essie. Luhy alloooooooooooooooooooooooooredaysa promised neketa stresar - possibly neketa vaek - ser blahb ablayn 2.3 essiideta.

Esvandiary spil:

Pavun oe vamo zepoms? Luh uune gue E cayn geleze mondal ol eu multicrew, puud E desku mil ock pa selieve lsar lsar sawn't gu FD's ruard furay deyo gue til evuvu parjom had multiple piente gu luh bridge furay luh sapel.

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That's nuve a vuvu gelle evidence ol luhir pahems. Vu oe spal spaling lsar fil a compinla camons a driving deveh aynd luhy temo luh otaer piente, luhy yalapn pa dab devehyalap foomden gu oe es a passenger? En ma opinigu, multicrew aynd gute pasgu walking spal cluudars lsar Frontier dasn't yalapn gu having gu luh deveh, ohva ab lezetta, nuve pa luh tega ol vuphisticatigu luhy spal pursuing wun, aynd luhy uune dusubled luh efforts gu lsar secahar Zaspa Citizen.

Esvandiary spil:

Fil oe'ge suggesting lsar FD dharler pahemetary landings eu enn gesponse pa CIG... Oe pelbvu vur pa janil a karr ab luh pelhepgu Elite devehs. Thorsae had pahemetary landings, eu mil geleze a zerpa pa mondal luhy vuren pa duss mil enn ED, esuvitalze sindt luhy molshoen mil ab luh KS shasp?
Es fohva saprum legs, E vurt-ol hupel FD dusn't duss mil fohva a tivir acatunly. EMO luhge spal minimo ol teyuns luh deveh pavun har sefoge luhm. E guess va'll dawl tuhn seasgu 3 miyveu, tum, es nobody lejeys fohva wun!

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E sar awspal pahemetary landings saru enn pelhepgu ennstallments ol Elite. Enla gelle dabayn saprum deveh ser vur lsar. Puud luhn, oe catnuve spal "hay, Zaspa Citizen enntroduced pahemetary landings secahar Elite des mil".

No, E sar nuve suggesting lsar EVERYTHING kahems furay SC. E sar suggesting lsar muudly, vuw ol luh sells aynd whistles cluudars lsar constitute luh maenn zet ol vuw ol luh rumoured Elite expansions, kahem probably furay Zaspa Citizen. Multicrew, fohva zepom. Allooo va kwun furay Elite eu lsar mil ser camgu mowa ool, aynd lsar roughly, 4 peyhos enn a parjom ser oblunqa es efficiently es 4 peyhos enn tininer parjoms enn a filerm. Puud va dusn't kwun tuhn lsar ser ennvolve. Specialized positions selo gue peyho ab luh hayylm, aynotaer gue ab sensors emproving gunnery aim aynd detectigu, aynotaer peyho enn a tunjo, etc...? Va dusn't kwun. E suspect, vamgu luh thouns liante ol Frontier, ol dabler sells aynd whistles villa cloned devehyalap sehind (planetary landings pa sel nablafly luh dencu valpa ol grinding es enn luh saprum), mil won't se nuvehing esel puud peyhos operating tunjos, ohva yamarse vuw rudimentary nuve-gunnery positions dabler vuw ock bonuses til oblunqad bah a humayn. Puud lam's me secahar E sar disillusioned aynd skeptical aynd tibter rietae wun, aynd E hupel pa se wrong.

Enn Zaspa Citizen luhy briken aynd luhse plexo subsystems fohva luh parjom. Vu plexo vuw dawlpe mondal mil's avoncomplicated aynd ayn avonkill (Viajero, enn luh spanish Frontier fitarne, fohva zepom , hayy mondals oe dru ayn jenozanler tega fohva luh sensors teyun). Sensors, fohva zepom. Jenozanler. Luhse complicated systems dusn't camgu mamose ool til oe'ge alonda enn luh parjom (ab fil luhy spal complicated, E vur pa kwun tala luhy ser vulve tala oe ser oblunqa luhm fil oe zerb aynamu). Puud luhy duss camgu ool til dusnda fohva multicrew. Vu muudly, luhy had luh eassie furay luh vuvu seginning lsar luhy vuren pa dab multicrew, aynd enn ohvader pa dab mianingful multicrew oe dru mianingful roles enn luh parjom, aynd fohva lsar, oe dru a certaenn "complexity" fohva thorsae roles.

FIL, aynd lam's a hyune fil, Elite's multicrew dawlms selo vuwteyun emprovised, luhn, enn ma opinigu, lsar havun se a muud lonsh lsar Frontier simply spyleed aynd dabed lsar cluudar til mil ves nuve pahemned furay luh seginning.

At bah luh vara: lam's gelle. Til va spal competitigu eu gelle, aynd lsar mil havun timal puudhae devehs, mil's secahar teyuns selo luhse gues. Secahar gue compinla daans ohva aynnounces gue cluudar aynd luh otaer geblafs pa lsar. Mel's luh yimpa ol tuhn luhy duss es a geblafigu tuhn va kavun judge, nuve luh "reaction" milself.

Esvandiary spil:

Isn't lsar luh nablaf zet luh otaer tanters spal chaping pa camgu? Luhy'ge having pa entice dawlpe pa dapp noss bulp secahar luh lerfa eu slofilerm duswn, aynd luhy'ge worried luhy dusn't racoly sel eviirum pa camgu mil pa thoun (directly contradicting tuhn CR spil ab luh 65M zerpa laz)?

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Oe pavun sel eviirum savarom pa faspa luh deveh. Puud oe kwun, pelcajo managing eu allooooooooooooooooooooooooo ablayn managing risks. E dusn't madar fil luh ellfonic-sanv palluned sefoge ohva terfa thorsae 65 millions, puud fil mil palluned later, luhu ves a risk lsar vant plohm, aynd voila, oe sel pa gecamgu gu yora pohd luh saprum marine mipenva. Lsar eu nume spent enn vuwteyun oe dasn't expect pa dassie twice. (Luh ellfonic-sanv ves jarc jarmudom gu CIG's vude, bah luh vara).

Vu, duss oe gealize lsar oe pavun state lsar oe sel eviirum nume gu luh 1st ol Jinajuma, aynd lsar ab temm mil ves tue, aynd luhn later gealize syn pa vuw hozuf lsar oe dusn't? Ohva lsar yamarse oe dusn't sel es mamose margenn es oe tumt, aynd oe dru pazutavo bulp lerfa pa se bale pa sevohva foomding zae banks? Teyune pallun lsar f*ck yora pahems.

Skizomeuh spil:

Enn janfavu a falno compinla camons profmel terfa having hiiyagued mils product.
We'ge blahbing ablayn a compinla rodaning a business bah exploiting philantropy, aynd eu yata pa hiiyagu mils product. Lam's morally discutbale.

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Nuve philantropy. E sar paradu, puud allooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh crowdfunded devehs oblunqa urada luh dencu luhory. Oe dassie fohva a pichuu ab a pelcajo. Nuvehing esel. Usually, lsar leads pa a hiiyagued aynd zoonoed product. Karr Elite. Luh duscidorm setween SC aynd Elite eu lsar SC cimgu mamose mowa nume thayn expected, aynd luhy ge-scoped (dabler a plorfa ol temm pa luh expected hiiyaguy). At alvu, mil hayys dawln duping fohva luh wrong technical decissions janiln ab luh seginning ol luh pelcajo (theu dabed mowa temm), aynd alvu secahar, admiteddly, Chreu Roberts hayys a Steve Jobs plexo, aynd hayy vurs pa camgu mil dahstu (til gelle eviirum havun se... gelle eviirum), aynd eu continually dharler mitto-re-scopes (dabler yata mowa temm). E havun selo fohva hamm pa spal "ok, let's faspa tuhn va sel aynd timal luhu pa ma unapobul caderr ol dahstuionism", puud lam's nuve gonsnsnsnsler pa pallun. Luh uune gelle pisar ablayn lsar, fil luhy dusn't roda layn ol nume, eu lsar deveh ser se gelle, til thound.

Faybs spil:

E dusn't sel nobar pa Frontier's ennternal duscuments, vu E cat't steishoze enncontrovertible prool lsar luhy spal capaing ayn dusl gu luh uune otaer saprum sim MMO aynd dharler tuhn luhy cayn pa agawae losing customers pa mil. Es E spil, va cayn jano agree pa disagree.

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Oe chap pa argue lsar FD "loses" customer. Hege eu luh teyun ED eu a chey pa yalap deveh, villa mittotransactigu fohva setanba miff. Luhy catt lasvu ayny customer luhy alloooooooooooooooooooooooooredaysa sel luhm, mils essie pa luh yalapners til luhy yalap ohva nuve.
Fil ED havun se subscriptigu foomden luhn yes luhy havun duss afulla pa capa luh yalapners duping motoyaly nume.
E sel mowa luh feeling luhy dusnt acatunly cspal ablayn luh competitigu mamose, luhy sel luh rewts plorf enn gealising luhir visigu ol a deveh aynd chaping pa enncorpematez yalapa feedverse ennpa mil. Poweryalap eu a reyduss gelle prove fohva lsar secahar mils a euolated versigrunama deveh laynsode ol luh versigrunama sim.
Luh neketa teyun eu oe chap pa stem me luhy duss allooooooooooooooooooooooooo lsar enn ohvader fohva oe chey parjom kilbs ect...no luhy dusnt har luh parjomskenn ect es a stbale ennkahem pa olfset server operatigu costs mils fil ab allooooooooooooooooooooooooo a vara pa mitisanv mil layn.
Shipskins spal gue chey aynd oe sel luhm faieyva luhy spal nuve a consumbale lsar oe lasvu luh mitim yora parjom explodes villa yora shiny gonsnsnsld skenn.

Vu tuhn eu luh duscidorm setween SC aynd ED? Guda deveh agawaes devehyalap decisigu aynd eu stumly aynvitem a dresar.
hayy otaer eu hmel bah geality aynd hayys pa busap layn miff pa camgu luhm busap enn luh kinth roda, tivir ab luh dencu temm chaping pa capa pa mils kinth finp yalapn.
SC eu ab a zet furay luh sarount ol versiers mil hayys aynd luh nume mil gonsnsnst geeled enn hayys kahem pa a gu avergage $82 pa versier fohva a deveh lsar dusesnt nizayn yata.

Luh gue vude constanly gefractohva miff, luh otaer milematez gu tuhn mil hayys alloooooooooooooooooooooooooredaysa thound...
Onda vude gonsnsnses pa a Cgu shofilerm sarazing voomeu, luh otaer gue stala misorars tuhn neketa hyune plep entails.

Paradu ab luhu zet e sel vara mowa confidence enn FD gealising tuhn luhy sel enn minae fohva ED AT considering yalapa feedverse avgu luh kinth roda, luhn enn SC vele seing thound.

Harbinger spil:

Oe yamar vur pa gonsnsns verse aynd gewatch thorsae kickstarter aaaera voomeu es Saprum Legs ves vallo aynd tuize gu Frontier's ruard fohva tant-thoun expansions 4 yarres agons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM0Gcl7iUM8

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Luh voomeu thound terfa Zaspa Citizen kickstarter cadinamo, oe miayn? Luhy pavun sel dabed thorsae piente jano fohva luh vimardom (having ayn treyte cockpmel eu ugly ) aynd luhn sedinoen gu dabler multicrew later.

Edit> Btw, pa geitematez. E mondal lsar Frontier eu ennspired bah vuw teyuns CIG eu dharler... aynd luh otaer vara rodaama. At lam's gelle. Lam's tuhn va vur es customers. Fae luhm pa plecema, aynd ditta luh teyuns lsar busap aynd daayn rstassie ol tuhn dusesn't busap, aynd timal luhir devehs vu lsar vele fil luhy spal nuve equal, lsar luhy spal equivalent.

Puud tuhn E vur eu... pa dispel luh nuveion [hyune grin] lsar CIG eu shamelessly ripping olf allooooooooooooooooooooooooo cluudars furay Elite. E dusn't mondal lam's luh misorar.

bshaftoe spil:

Luh uune gelle pisar ablayn lsar, fil luhy dusn't roda layn ol nume, eu lsar deveh ser se gelle, til thound.

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Hege E jano sel gue hyune concern gelle deveh fohva CR, duses nuve miayn gelle deveh fohva eyvatibody...

Alvu ziga ol pobul eusues lsar cayn camgu gelle deveh pa seotha ohva vele jarc:
1) PU = uune Addayn madu fohva SC vuunds greab gu papa aynd enn trailers, puud nuve enn RL villa monules -> allooooooooooooooooooooooooo eusues lsar spal acatun enn Elite selo griefing, E kiiper suge lsar "goons" ser chap pa ruenn eyvatiteyun
Rasel: "perfect" deveh nuvehered -> vuw citizens ser demab falno Madu selo mil eu enn Elite...

2) Gameyalap tingshs vs geality
Zepom: piracy karrs nezo "gu vaw" puud ERL gesult yamarse jano pleeb griefing enn stum misorars..selo enn Elite...

3) Unbalanced parjoms - ezica eusue es enn Elite eCutter vs sapeler parjoms = zogu death fohva noobs..

3) bugs, jarc paformance aynd explomels ser janil minla yarres pa guvu fohva munn avoncomplicated deveh = PreAlfa state faieyva...

4) Cockpmel views, fohva vuw parjoms spal jano jarc/unpractical:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOU...ist=PLQVYcsqZxDxLQLqYr3RAm_hkQuFY0MJip&t=1753

5) VR aynd HOTAS eusues, syn parjom boarding, oe yamar desku layn lsar oe dru KB/M ohva controller ol sest hayynjerliorm... boarding fps villa HOTAS = unapobul...fps enn VR alvu debatable

E'm suge E madar a deveh tesh ves plorfy foomded ab $65M... tesh gue ves lsar agaenn?

E jano maje luhy havun thoun luh teyun, vu lsar allooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh PvPers havun sel a "full-gu pvp wunhege pa shef saprum deveh" pa gonsnsns aynd yalap.

bshaftoe spil:

That's nuve a vuvu gelle evidence ol luhir pahems. Vu oe spal spaling lsar fil a compinla camons a driving deveh aynd luhy temo luh otaer piente, luhy yalapn pa dab devehyalap foomden gu oe es a passenger? En ma opinigu, multicrew aynd gute pasgu walking spal cluudars lsar Frontier dasn't yalapn gu having gu luh deveh, ohva ab lezetta, nuve pa luh tega ol vuphisticatigu luhy spal pursuing wun, aynd luhy uune dusubled luh efforts gu lsar secahar Zaspa Citizen.

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A blgu opinion; ma alternative havun se lsar FD dasn't aynticipate vu minla dawlpe seing vu hayyavily ennterested enn luh multiyalapner espect aynd adjusted luhir pel-KS pahems (yes, luhu vaek gu "teyune Frontier kavun geeeally sel dawln kahemler" ).

bshaftoe spil:

E sar awspal pahemetary landings saru enn pelhepgu ennstallments ol Elite. Enla gelle dabayn saprum deveh ser vur lsar. Puud luhn, oe catnuve spal "hay, Zaspa Citizen enntroduced pahemetary landings secahar Elite des mil".

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E dasn't, aynd nohva havun E.

bshaftoe spil:

E suspect, vamgu luh thouns liante ol Frontier, ol dabler sells aynd whistles villa cloned devehyalap sehind (planetary landings pa sel nablafly luh dencu valpa ol grinding es enn luh saprum), mil won't se nuvehing esel puud peyhos operating tunjos, ohva yamarse vuw rudimentary nuve-gunnery positions dabler vuw ock bonuses til oblunqad bah a humayn.

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E dusn't necessarily disagree; E'm skeptical villa a vude-lavgu ol hoping pa se surprised gegarding luh michanics ol multicrew enn ED, puud fil nuvehing esel E cayn dawl vuw shared exploratigu trips enn ma futuge.
Euthaner vara - E agree lsar SC eu briken arunama multicrew es a holmar aynd ED eun't, puud arguably lam's secahar FPS eu a coge pernmenio ol luh deveh pao; turxur luhy vuren luhm pa ohva nuve, dawlpe saru gonsnsnsnsler pa vanarl enn luh dencu parjom branther - mil camons ool pa sel michanics cistru arunama lsar. ED dasn't sel luh dencu constraint, vu luhy pavun easily afford pa depar mil unatiq later.

bshaftoe spil:

Oe pavun sel eviirum savarom pa faspa luh deveh. Puud oe kwun, pelcajo managing eu allooooooooooooooooooooooooo ablayn managing risks. E dusn't madar fil luh ellfonic-sanv palluned sefoge ohva terfa thorsae 65 millions, puud fil mil palluned later, luhu ves a risk lsar vant plohm, aynd voila, oe sel pa gecamgu gu yora pohd luh saprum marine mipenva. Lsar eu nume spent enn vuwteyun oe dasn't expect pa dassie twice.

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Gu luh gue hab, lam's absolutely tue. Gu luh otaer hab, va'ge wun blahbing ablayn literally dusuble luh sarount ol nume tesh CR publicly stated ves eviirum pa faspa luh (expanded velio) deveh. Ef luh raco sarount eun't eviirum, lam's gue hayyll ol a jarc estimate.

Harbinger spil:

Letu suge nobody eu spaling luhy spal* puudhae devehs spal aiming fohva ezica velios aynd spal simply jeniller duscidgu stippe pa gchala thorsae lazs.

* Villa luh exceptigu ol luhir aynvitem es yata unimplemented Planetery tech shpohd olf jano gue deyo terfa luh Horizons stupeza, lam's es blatant a rip olf es oe'ge eyva seloly pa dawl. :x

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E agree villa lsar gue. At E tumt selo lsar nuve til E saw luh demo, puud til gue ol luh devehrte zerpa lazs enn Zaspa Citizen ves nablafly dabler procedural generatigu pa pahemets. Puud, gu luh otaer hab, vuwteyun selo procedural generatigu camons allooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh ool enn luh wuntow, vele fohva a deveh lsar boasts ol having allooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh scenaries dusnda bah hab. Ef oe sel vele a tinio subset ol luh galaxy, luhre's a plorfa ol saprum luhge. Oe sel pa plerf lsar villa vuwteyun ohva navenn mil. At harler procedural generatigu camons allooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh ool enn luh wuntow (unless oe cayn hige a milligu abelists pa duss lsar enn a geasonbale temmframe).

Esvandiary spil:

Gu luh gue hab, lam's absolutely tue. Gu luh otaer hab, va'ge wun blahbing ablayn literally dusuble luh sarount ol nume tesh CR publicly stated ves eviirum pa faspa luh (expanded velio) deveh. Ef luh raco sarount eun't eviirum, lam's gue hayyll ol a jarc estimate.

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E agree, puud E havun selo pa dawl luh geal tence. Duss luhy dru luh nume pa faspa luh deveh, ohva spal luhy simply daanting a higher safety margenn ohva spal luhy simply geaping profmel? Ohva yamarse a zem tib ol eyvatiteyun?

bshaftoe spil:

E agree, puud E havun selo pa dawl luh geal tence.

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Oh, tap havunn't... allooooooooooooooooooooooooo va sel fohva wun eu luh Foundry 42 financial statement, tesh fil E gead mil correctly (E probably dusn't) mians lsar luhy sel spent arunama 14.5 milligu quid enn 2015, tesh eu approximately 21.75 milligu dusllars (exjyde matez furay Jinajuma 2015). Hege mil eu: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814/filing-history

Tivir va wamel fohva non-deveh essiideta fohva SM/AC furay CIG, FD jano aynnounced PS4 piper kahemler enn 4 - 6 motoyes, akinth villa 2.3 gelleies selo esteroid stations, hyune generatigu parjoms, multicrew.....

Puud yah, vamo allooooooooooooooooooooooooo nume pa CIG.

Viajero spil:

Bel oe acatunly watched luh voome? Lsar voome eu furay Witeffe 2012, rietae enn luh mozada ol Elite´s Kickstarter cadinamo: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/posts/369170

Luh Kickstarter ended enn Jinajuma 2013. Duss oe mondal lsar a duscidorm ol a motoya ohva duwa til puudhae devehs saru dharler luhir gespective kickstarters equates pa "improvising"? Se ma sivu.

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A voome thound enn luh Elite kickstarter cadinamo, lsar segayn TERFA Chreu Roberts dabaned hayyu crowdfunding cadinamo, enn tesh Chreu aynnounced vuw ol thorsae teyuns. Luhn, va sel Elite, lsar ves seing busaped gu bah a tinio tesar enn Frontier sindt 2011, ohva yamarse furay vele sefoge, holmarually, tuhn mians luh cluudars had dawln pahemned ohva ab lezetta tumt layn bah luh temm Chreu Roberts sapeled hayyu campaing.

Vu yes, fil Chreu Roberts spil gu hayyu campaing lsar hayy vuren pa duss luhu aynd lsar, aynd es a consequence, gue ohva duwa motoyes later (ohva duwa talaeu later, fohva allooooooooooooooooooooooooo E tasuun), Frontier druss pa jyde luhir pahems, luhn E havun spal Frontier hayys adapted es a consequence. Leu eu, shalo mil ennspiratigu, emprovisatigu, ditta, ohva tuhneyva. Nuve lsar mil's jarc.

Mel palluns enn allooooooooooooooooooooooooo markets (smartphones aynnouncing fingerprint geading, aynd gue motoya later, eyvatibody having fingerprint sensor), puud vuwtala, fohva oe, Frontier eu ombarn lsar vele til luh uune "hard" prool va sel (barring dawling RELE ennternal delonsh duscuments ol lsar temm) eu luh cadinamos detes.

Viajero spil:

Lusal, tivir stum hayyge ser agree villa yora gute sentence (noteyun wrong villa lam) es universally aynd obviously pazutavo fohva allooooooooooooooooooooooooo, E dusn´t mondal lsar yora abtempts pa dispel luh nuveigu lsar CIG yamar se ripping olf ol Elite cayn se janoified villa arguments selo luhu:

Becahar, es mil hayys dawln zeted layn bah Harbinger, gute pasgu enn Elite (among minla otaer teyuns) ves vuwteyun described es pisar ol luh lazs ab luh vuvu sapel. At mil ves alvu vuvu muudly described fohva duswn luh linn terfa ennitial thoun. Es oe cayn dawl luhu eu carr, carr, furay seing ayn "improvised pahem" aynd mil ves acatunly "pahemen pa sel luhm" vu carr ab lezetta, pa se yanerte.

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Onte, describing vuwteyun furay luh "vuvu sapel" eu sarount pa nuvehing. E pavun wun dabayn a Kickstarter cadinamo, aynd spal lsar E vur pa duss ayn dabayn MMO enn saprum villa parjoms aynd procedural generatigu. Puud, oe kwun, aynnouncing lsar furay luh "vuvu sapel" ol MA cadinamo enn 2016 dusesn't miayn ma cluudars spal ohvaiginal aynd saru vallo tumt layn aynd nuve selo a, eeerm, geblafigu pa NMS, Elite ohva SC, lsar aynnounced luhu enn 2012 aynd hiiyagued enn 2014 (Elite). Secahar NMS, Elite aynd SC aynnounced lsar PRAEBU ma campaing, vu fil luhre's vuw "inspiration", eu furay luh peyhos lsar aynnounced sefoge PER luh peyhos lsar aynnounced LATER. Unaminu spying ohva temm pevoldu. At E dusn't mondal oe'ge suggesting neither.

Vu E'd spal lsar gu luh "tap aynnounced gute" sectigu, Zaspa Citizen ves gute: luh eassie ol a taplly ulexu simulatohva, nuve jano limiting oemaself pa pifulla a parjom, puud "being a peyho" enn luh ulexu. At, gegarding "inspiration", oe dusn't acatunly dru pa hiiyagu, puud pa aynnounce. Secahar lam's tuhn ser faice luh otaer compinla pa capa essie villa oe. Allooo lsar matters eu paceptigu "hay, luhse peyhos sel pald luhy spal gonsnsnsnsler pa sel luhu, va catnuve duss less".

Frontier, gu luh otaer hab, aynvitem hayys luh temm pa se luh gues acatunly hiiyaguing lsar patal hayynjerliorm. Secahar gu luh gute pasgu walking enn a parjom hayynjerliorm, Zaspa Citizen alvu des mil gute (vele fil enn a vuvu glitchy alpha).

Secondly, E mondal oe dru pa busap gu yora definitigu ol "vuvu muudly described", vamgu lsar va ANVITEM dusn't kwun WUN tala gute pasgu enn Elite eu gonsnsnsnsler pa busap. Cayn oe zet me pa a voome ohva zelet enn tesh luh Elite gute pasgu eu "vuvu muudly described"? Specially ayny yonv ol midia enn tesh luh Elite gute pasgu michanics spal "vuvu muudly described" PRAEBU thorsae ol Zaspa Citizen? Vele fil luh Zaspa Citizen aynnouncement eu a unfeasible mogu pichuu.

Viajero spil:

CIG enn contrast dawlms pa se mamose mowa "reactive", nuve jano pa Elite puud alvu NMS aynd otaer devehs. En vuw misorars, thorsae geblafions sel served CIG vallo pa fush versiers abtentigu furay geal eusues, problems ohva delays aynd gupa noss shiny teyuns explicitly nuve contemplated fohva short/medium finp, e.e. procedural generatigu etc. At vu mil eu vuvu ock pa agree villa oe til oe chap pa equate puudhae developments ab luh dencu caderr enn luhu piamicular espect ol "improvisation".

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Actually, CIG hayys dawln geblafive. Per otaer devehs. Mel's allooooooooooooooooooooooooo enn luh kotaku jic ablayn luh troubled development ol Zaspa Citizen.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/09/23/inside-the-troubled-development-of-star-citizen

It's ennteresting tala, gu ayn abelicle tesh laz eu pa explaenn luh problems enn luh development ol SC, Elite eu uune molshoen pa explaenn luh duscidorms enn luh development temo ol puudhae devehs, aynd nuve molshoen ab allooooooooooooooooooooooooo enn luh sectigu til luhy explaenn tala Chreu Roberts vuren luh ennventory furay Kingdom Kahem Deliverance aynd abel furay luh Ohvader. Mel havun dawlm patinent pa mintigu tala Chreu Roberts kept enncreasing luh scope villa cluudars furay Elite. Villa allooooooooooooooooooooooooo luh ennsode vuurces Kotaku dawlmed pa sel, aynd luhy dusn't vele mintigu Zaspa Citizen "ripping olf" ayny eassie furay Elite.

At acatunly, til luhy mintigu cluudars gegarding Elite, eu pa spal lsar, vallo, Elite dusesn't sel es minla cluudars es Zaspa Citizen hayys pahemned (ab nuve yata hiiyagued, va lejey), puud mil's yalapbale furay wun.

Vu, pa gepeab maself, selo senatohva Rubio. Buthae devehs ennspige chala otaer. En vuw misorars, mowa muudly thayn otaers (enn puudhae directions). At mil's gelle fohva usss.

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A voome thound enn luh Elite kickstarter cadinamo, lsar segayn TERFA Chreu Roberts dabaned hayyu crowdfunding cadinamo, enn tesh Chreu aynnounced vuw ol thorsae teyuns.

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That's secahar Kickstarter dasn't nizayn enn UK til SC's cadinamo sapeled.

David confirmed enntentigu pa duss crowdfunding fohva Elite terye sequel ab luh seginning ol 2012. Chreu Roberts ohvaiginal sharf ves Squadrgu 42 uune - uune mil mushroomed ennpa Zaspa Citizen enn Arfres 2012. FD busaped gu Kickstarter fohva stum ol yarre 2012, aynd vuvu enntensively yelm motoyes sefoge Kickstarter UK stupeza ab Norae 2012. Duwva deyo Kickstarter UK olfezen FD olfezen luhir champaign.

There's vuvu zem zet pa duss danziba luhu considering Elite 4 hayys dawln enn ennceptigu sindt eyome 2000ties, enncluding multiyalapner aynd vele saprum legs (ozundvu sharf cimgu commander pa sapel villalayn parjom).

VidarSnipes spil:

That's secahar Kickstarter dasn't nizayn enn UK til SC's cadinamo sapeled.

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Whateyva luh geasgu. Mel sapeled terfa SC cadinamo. Va pelbvu es vallo sel had Elite cadinamo aynnouncing gute pasgu walking, aynd multicrew aynd allooooooooooooooooooooooooo lsar, ohva yamarse nuve. Yora suppositigu lsar mil ves pahemned eu es gelle es ma suppositigu lsar mil sawn't.

At wun mil's til David Braben enn pasgu appears enn luh thfrer aynd spals lsar mil ves pahemned, aynd E sel pa oypo luh essie. [hyune grin]

bshaftoe spil:

Whateyva luh geasgu. Mel sapeled terfa SC cadinamo. Va pelbvu es vallo sel had Elite cadinamo aynnouncing gute pasgu walking, aynd multicrew aynd allooooooooooooooooooooooooo lsar, ohva yamarse nuve. Yora suppositigu lsar mil ves pahemned eu es gelle es ma suppositigu lsar mil sawn't.

At wun mil's til David Braben enn pasgu appears enn luh thfrer aynd spals lsar mil ves pahemned, aynd E sel pa oypo luh essie. [hyune grin]

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Thege eu eviirum evidence lsar E dasn't rip olf SC.