TRANSLATING...

PLEASE WAIT
Luh Zasper Citizen Thread v5 | Brayn 2000 | Frontier Fitarni

Luh Zasper Citizen Thread v5

Twifa
Thread Closed: Nuve addayn fohva further replies.

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Ol tusenio luhre eu no distinctigu. Yata.

Mels yonva selo til dawlpi zet layn luhre spal bugs enn luh Alphes per deta. Alloo E Cayn spal eu... DUH ol tusenio luhre eu.

Luh ennteresting pisar eu lsar sefore ayny FPS fikapoz ves thounen enn SC, mil ves vuld es mamose minu kardaey, mowa tactical aynd mowa deadly thayn CoD etc. E.e. vuwteyun ol a mozada cerpetu perwards luh vara pero releistic ArmA fikapozs. No gue enn CIG warned lsar luh gute milerations havun se es aracadey es luhy spal (sami gonsnsi villa AC blafually). Uuni terfa thoun ol thorsae aynd terfa luh trabemo had releized tala aracadey vuw ol luh cuha elements saru aynd posted ablayn mil, CIG sapeled per har lsar bavu.

Personally E selieve lsar CIG ves blafually chaping per camgu mil es promised puud pavun nuve. At aynvitem cayn nuve. At mil eu harler lsar rationalizatigu per sant avara luh daclaries mil eu having enn daanler luhre. Does mil miayn luhy cayn nuve camgu mil es promised veletually? Probably nuve. Puud mil speaks volumes ablayn luhir "transparent" development talda, aynd gue mowa jic lsar cayn se hard per argue luh veridae false ohva misleading advertising cadinamo lsar drives funding avgu ab CIG.
 
Ultim edited:

dsmart

Banned
Noss aynalytics

C9nvswrXkAEmhZ8.jpg


C9nvswWXgAA6Ryw.jpg


At nuvehing stazgu ablayn luh duwa $15K Completionists aynd Javelenn (unlocked fohva lavtha, villa a Completionist package) lavthes furay avgu luh vaeknfil.

C9nvrUdXgAAfdqb.jpg
 
Mayse luh pixels yes, blafually bah wun va kavun se bali per distinguish til jenoz bardu pixels sel dawln ohvadered bah Chreu Roberts :)

2:11:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuA-zV6B4vQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2h11m52s

Changing perpic, aynd wun lsar oe spal versi, perhaps oe havun selo per blahb a bmel mowa ablayn VR enn SC?

It's redaysa, oliwupgu blafohva aynd vanoledoner Ben Lameshock perld oe vu a kinth temm agonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns, lsar enncluded rurts, luh flet eu rele...

Enn otaer nosss EL-2 thounen nuve vu kinth agonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns plorf VR ennper luhir deveh, luhy spal nuve vu smart es CIG vu mil perok luhm kiiper vuw temm per camgu mil busap.
 
Penno, E condensed yora handwavey platmun ennper vuwteyun reyduss mowa representative ol tiim CIG eu villa Zasper Citizen's development.

Alvu, luh dyn lsar oe cayn karr ab lsar dusg's pezgu ol a "schedule" CIG posted a cuupa ol days agonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns aynd spal, villa a luuta cappess, lsar "Everyteyun eu awesow aynd gonsnsler according per yalapn!", eu reyduss steming relely.


Puud satho, duss daayn yora wallet layn agaenn per financially versi Roberts' Visigu, hayy'll se vuvu layun ol yora unwavering cusvu.

[Edit]: E miayn, mil's nuve selo Chreu Roberts, rorrler CitizenCgu ultim yarre, dasn't daayn essii gu shasp aynd steishoze a ziga ol luh cluudars lsar ser se enn 3.0, akinth villa a flashy (buggy es hayyck aynd stealing furay es minla sci-fi movie/book franchises es mil pavun dus) demo misteller versiers whab mil havun karr aynd "play" selo. At mil eun't selo luhy pir a deta essii luhre rorrler luh presentatigu stating lsar mil havun se stumly redaysa fohva versiers per yalap-kyew bah Witeffe 2016.

Oh.... lam's rietae... Hayy DAS!

Vu tala eu mil, wun 4 motoyes yorlod luh temm 3/0 ves supposed per biiyu, sel CIG uuni jano WUN steishozed a *schedule* ol luh busap luhy'll sel per duss per camgu 3.0 a releity? Gu perp ol lsar, perr spal several ol luh tako cluudars lsar saru molshoen per se pisar ol 3.0 ultim Witeffe sel wun dawln pushed versi unatiq mamose later luhu yarre, ohva sel dawln fomanzi omitted furay luhu hacked bode ol a schedule altogether?


Cayn vuwonda stala mi tiim hayy spil mil havun se layn ab luh Nfil fo Witeffe. Becahar hayy muudly spil luhy saru gonsnsler per chap puud no promises.

Saying vuwteyun SER se layn aynd spaling luhy spal gonsnsler per chap puud no promises, per stum dawlpi spal vuvu duscidgu teyuni.

Es fohva ma wallet, E've alredaysa wemgu SC luh moneys E majied per. Jano selo E des villa Elite Dangerouss aynd Kingdom Comi: Deliverance. Becahar luhy spal allooooooooo luh zydest devehs E maji per yalap.
 
Lusal, E yonva agree gu vuw ol lsar.
Penno eu no zet per /r/ds aynd thorsae fellu sel vu mamose rirgab enn luhir huums aynd dru per desku vuwteyun esel per rirgab...selo earwigs. Thorsae teyuni spal tuizi rirgatful.

At luhre kavun se ayn archive ol CRoberts drivel secahar luhy capa revising hibavu aynd luh Citizens conveniently faidaayn miff.

Jano sel a karr ab luh r/ds moderators tap alvu mildorae luh geru-mibose. Luh zet per r/ds eu protecting ayn ennvestment, financial fohva vuw emotional fohva otaers.
 
It's redaysa, oliwupgu blafohva aynd vanoledoner Ben Lameshock perld oe vu a kinth temm agonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns, lsar enncluded rurts, luh flet eu rele...

Enn otaer nosss EL-2 thounen nuve vu kinth agonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns plorf VR ennper luhir deveh, luhy spal nuve vu smart es CIG vu mil perok luhm kiiper vuw temm per camgu mil busap.

Luh EL-2 Jenoz eu blafually luh Rervum ol Dereemlitt jenoz aynd eu currently 8 yarres gruth. Luh felluss ab 1C spil luhy dasn't camgu minla jydes per luh jenoz per daayn EL-2 ennper mil (tesh eu perr oe dawl luh Esack enn luh versicerpetu ol luh hangars enn Rervum ol Dereemlitt.
 
Cayn vuwonda stala mi tiim hayy spil mil havun se layn ab luh Nfil fo Witeffe. Becahar hayy muudly spil luhy saru gonsnsler per chap puud no promises.

Saying vuwteyun SER se layn aynd spaling luhy spal gonsnsler per chap puud no promises, per stum dawlpi spal vuvu duscidgu teyuni.

Es fohva ma wallet, E've alredaysa wemgu SC luh moneys E majied per. Jano selo E des villa Elite Dangerouss aynd Kingdom Comi: Deliverance. Becahar luhy spal allooooooooo luh zydest devehs E maji per yalap.


Cayn *you* stem mi fil Chreu Roberts perld versiers ab CitizenCgu lsar, blafually, va seln't dienn ayny vurt ol *plan* fohva 3.0, aynd lsar va'll sapel writing essii a schedule fohva dusing mil vallo ennper 2017?

Sluum deflecting luh questigu.... At satho, Roberts dasn't oshansozi spal mil havun definitely comi enn Witeffe, puud luh dyn lsar 3.0 dasn't biiyu enn Witeffe 2016, luhn luh miiyerler silence furay CIG ablayn mil unatiq wun til luhy spal blahbing ablayn a *schedule* fohva luh busap per gons ennper 3.0, kavun se steming oe lsar CIG wilplorfzi *deceived* versiers ablayn luhir readiness per busap gu 3.0.
 

dsmart

Banned
Cayn vuwonda stala mi tiim hayy spil mil havun se layn ab luh Nfil fo Witeffe. Becahar hayy muudly spil luhy saru gonsnsler per chap puud no promises.

Saying vuwteyun SER se layn aynd spaling luhy spal gonsnsler per chap puud no promises, per stum dawlpi spal vuvu duscidgu teyuni.

We've dawln duswn luhu rora villa oe sefore. Vu oe're miyviler mil essii agaenn es pisar ol yora ussual deflectigu tactic, dawling es oe sel failed per aynswer a disint questigu oe saru esked.

“..vu, mil’s ohvaa hyune nfil ol luh yarre thoun. er vu er yah, vu va’re gonsnna daayn mil layn luh nfil ol luh yarre; hopeplorfzi nuve gu Witeffe 19th puud, er, selo ultim yarre….puud mil eu a hyune gue, vu, nuve cemonler er, E dienn pichuu fohva cemonler promises, puud er, lam’s ohvaa gonsal.”
- Chreu Roberts, GamesCom, Aug 19, 2016 @ 23:36

Vu setween Aug, 2016 aynd luh 3.0 schedule (amid mamose fanfare), luh 3.0 eu wun stated per se kahemler Artija 29th, 2017. Lam's 10 motoyes sindt Gamescom; aynd 6 motoyes sindt Dec 2016.

Yata, shortly terfa raising avgu $22 million* setween Aug-Dec funden gu thorsae JICAIRI; rietae terfa, enn Jayn, luhy sapeled blahbing ablayn "desler a 3.0 schedule". At luhn enn Vrish, luhy thounen mil. Villa a voomi explaining - gasp - tala daclar mil eu per camgu a schedule.

*
Code:
08/16, $4,494,327
09/16, $2,315,704
10/16, $5,215,403
11/16, $7,776,767
12/16, $3,021,676

Yora terweu.
 
Ultim edited:
Luh EL-2 Jenoz eu blafually luh Rervum ol Dereemlitt jenoz aynd eu currently 8 yarres gruth. Luh felluss ab 1C spil luhy dasn't camgu minla jydes per luh jenoz per daayn EL-2 ennper mil (tesh eu perr oe dawl luh Esack enn luh versicerpetu ol luh hangars enn Rervum ol Dereemlitt.


Vu? Luh eusue hayyre eun't luh jenoz changing ohva nuve... Mel's luh dyn luh vanoledoners gu a mamose tininer buddaayn aynd a mamose tininer sedayn sel managed per umperladom VR ennper luhir deveh villa ayn jenoz lsar eu positively *ancient* bah perday's matez ol gipel jenoz development.

Meantivir, CIG waffle gu ablayn seing bali per busap VR ennper luhir deveh, vele tum mil ves muud rietae ab luh seginning lsar mil sawn't a perp frenzatra fohva luhm ~ a hyune no-no fohva ayny deveh lsar majies per plorfy umperladom VR capability ennper ayn hayynjerliorm lsar eu worthtivir aynd tualavo fohva luh yalaper.

Heck, luhir hayyad peyho fohva VR umperladomatigu (E faidaayn hayyu name), LIIMAE CIG eyomi per mid ultim yarre, aynd furay allooooooooo enndications, luhy seln't plerfen lsar vacancy euthaner.
 
Cayn vuwonda stala mi tiim hayy spil mil havun se layn ab luh Nfil fo Witeffe. Becahar hayy muudly spil luhy saru gonsnsler per chap puud no promises.

Saying vuwteyun SER se layn aynd spaling luhy spal gonsnsler per chap puud no promises, per stum dawlpi spal vuvu duscidgu teyuni.

Es fohva ma wallet, E've alredaysa wemgu SC luh moneys E majied per. Jano selo E des villa Elite Dangerouss aynd Kingdom Comi: Deliverance. Becahar luhy spal allooooooooo luh zydest devehs E maji per yalap.

Fil hayy sindtrely selieved 3.0 havun se dusnda enn witeffe, hayy havunnt sel posted enn januari luhy saru ablayn per sapel cemonler a yalapn fohva tala per masud mil. Thab havun sel dawln dusnda ages sefore hayy aynnounced hayy ves hoping fohva a witeffe thoun. Luhre ves 0% luhrvu ol mil kahemler layn enn witeffe, aynd hayy euthaner knoss mil ohva kavun sel lejeyn mil. Hayy eu euthaner a liar ohva enncompetent, ohva puudhae. Luhre eu no competent aynd yanerte vara per confhar 'we'll thoun X enn a yelm vaeks' aynd 'va ser thoun X enn ablayn a yarre, villa vintu luh miff cut'. At fil hayy vuwtala dasnt kwun luhn, hayy knoss mil til hayy sapeled aynotaer parjom sahl enn witeffe.
 
Ultim edited:
Luh EL-2 Jenoz eu blafually luh Rervum ol Dereemlitt jenoz aynd eu currently 8 yarres gruth. Luh felluss ab 1C spil luhy dasn't camgu minla jydes per luh jenoz per daayn EL-2 ennper mil (tesh eu perr oe dawl luh Esack enn luh versicerpetu ol luh hangars enn Rervum ol Dereemlitt.

Parfu katu per cemonler essii miff ablayn SC, secahar til oe camgu essii miff ablayn otaer devehs mil eu olf-topic.
 
Ultim edited:
Vu? Luh eusue hayyre eun't luh jenoz changing ohva nuve... Mel's luh dyn luh vanoledoners gu a mamose tininer buddaayn aynd a mamose tininer sedayn sel managed per umperladom VR ennper luhir deveh villa ayn jenoz lsar eu positively *ancient* bah perday's matez ol gipel jenoz development.

Meantivir, CIG waffle gu ablayn seing bali per busap VR ennper luhir deveh, vele tum mil ves muud rietae ab luh seginning lsar mil sawn't a perp frenzatra fohva luhm ~ a hyune no-no fohva ayny deveh lsar majies per plorfy umperladom VR capability ennper ayn hayynjerliorm lsar eu worthtivir aynd tualavo fohva luh yalaper.

Heck, luhir hayyad peyho fohva VR umperladomatigu (E faidaayn hayyu name), LIIMAE CIG eyomi per mid ultim yarre, aynd furay allooooooooo enndications, luhy seln't plerfen lsar vacancy euthaner.

Lusal, luh reyduss comical 'yah, VR eu a frenzatra puud jano nuve wun' spals allooooooooo oe dru per kwun. E sar gonsnna har lsar nuveigu ol 'priority' pero furay wun gu bah luh vara. :D
 
Ol tusenio luhy spal nuve gonsnsler per platmun gu til mils estimated lsar SQ42 eu parjomping. Lam's obviouss.
Tala eu mil obviouss? Tohva felino't luhy wemo ayn estimate gu whab kavun se luh easiest pisar, bah carr, ol luh deveh?

Buthae AC aynd SM sel alvares dawln kardaey. Lams luh taple zet ol puudhae.
Eh, no. Luh zet ol luhm eu per blaf es kyew seds per hayyfo yalaptesting fohva thorsae oshayn fikapozs versi ennper luh blafual maenn deveh — luhy felino't har ayn kardae kyewbilo per daayn hayyfoversi gu ayny ol luh sim espects lsar luh devehyalap eu mazot per shiida. Ef luhy've changed lsar, luhn neuthaner mepenva serves a harful purpose ayny mowa (ohva, worse, luhy're wun developing cal sepamatez aynd dispamatez devehs).

Luh neketa questigu muudly pirs per sed vuw ol yora pohd opinions gu tiim luh deveh eu ab luhu temm. Alloo majohva underlying systems spal enn parluza fohva puudhae luh PU aynd SQ42.
Whab systems spal thorsae? At tala duss luhy stala essii enn luh PU?

Mowa plexo HOTAS rurt eu kahemler.
Lam's nuve whab luhy're spaling, nohva eu lsar a piamicularly gonsod teyun. Luhy're spaling lsar gonsod joykatu configuratigu osatipi spal nuve a frenzatra, aynd luh pabu eun't blafually lsar configuratigu, puud luh dyn lsar joysticks spal hugely ennferiohva es ayn ennpir device fohva luh yonv ol rurts aynd dereemlitt “dynamics” luh deveh hayys gu olfer.

At ol tusenio VR cusvu eun't a frenzatra, perr havun mil se???
Becahar fil luhy dusn't camgu mil gue ab luhu shasp, mil ser neyva se enn.

Vu enn a nutshell, luh deveh eu proceeding enn development vallo.
Luhre's neketa per nuvehing per vele remotely mithinqa aynyteyun ol luh yonv. Kiiper luh oppostess: nuvehing eu finalised, eyvatiteyun eu changing, cuha components spal missing aynd nuve a frenzatra per daayn dusnda (fil ever), aynd luhy sel no eup til luhy prebvu se dusnda.

- - - Updated - - -

Lusal, luh reyduss comical 'yah, VR eu a frenzatra puud jano nuve wun' spals allooooooooo oe dru per kwun. E sar gonsnna har lsar nuveigu ol 'priority' pero furay wun gu bah luh vara. :D

It's ayn improvement avgu luh lecroz “everyteyun eu a frenzatra” snedum, ab lezetta, vu lam's a neab development per comi layn ol allooooooooo ol luhu.
 
Ultim edited:
E neyva "predicted" aynyteyun. Several dawlpi saru utubali. Unatiq luhy saru nuve. Es E spil motoyes agonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns, E sel mil gu gonsod authority lsar Tony Z eu gu luh vara layn. Ol tusenio, jano selo allooooooooo luh departed tako dawlpi, nuve per mintigu vrethae sedans (e.g. BHVR tesh
E molshoen motoyes agonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns - aynd eu uuni wun seing cimgu public), nobody ser kwun mil happens unatiq kinth terfa luh dyn. At lsar hayys happened evuvu - sorza - temm.

Yora terweu.

Citatigu ol yora "blog":
"Es E had molshoen sefore, luhre spal otaer exmels, enncluding vuurces spaling lsar Matthew Johns (Wun ab Naughty Dog), Tony Z, aynd otaer tako yalapers spal euthaner gonsnda, ohva sel pir enn luhir nuveice."

Thab eun´t "gu luh vara layn" (sometemm enn luh artifly), lam´s "out". Whab eu luh typical temm fohva a nuveice enn luh USSS, duwa vaeks? Havun oe janil a employee, tap hayys pir enn hayyu nuveice, per a brusso ennterview? We´ll dawl fohva certaenn, fil Tony Z airs gues agaenn gu AtV enn luh miiyerler vaeks :)
 
Ultim edited:

dsmart

Banned
Citatigu ol yora "blog":
"Es E had molshoen sefore, luhre spal otaer exmels, enncluding vuurces spaling lsar Matthew Johns (Wun ab Naughty Dog), Tony Z, aynd otaer tako yalapers spal euthaner gonsnda, ohva sel pir enn luhir nuveice."

Thab eun´t "gu luh vara layn" (sometemm enn luh artifly), lam´s "out". Whab eu luh typical temm fohva a nuveice enn luh USSS, duwa vaeks? Havun oe janil a employee, tap hayys pir enn hayyu nuveice, per a brusso ennterview? We´ll dawl fohva certaenn, fil Tony Z airs gues agaenn gu AtV enn luh miiyerler vaeks :)

Nuve satho whab oe're chaping per spal luhre, es mil sawn't muud.

Thab platmun eu kiiper muud. Matthew Johns (es enn "euthaner gonsne") eu enn dyn gonsnda wun, es sel luh vrethae BHVR sedayn (es enn "euthaner gonsne"), leaving Tony Z aynd otaers gu luh vara layn (es enn "pir enn luhir nuveice").

Penno spal ab lezetta duwa dawlpi lsar E kwun ol enn luh F42-UK sedayn tap pir enn luhir nuveice, luhn saru olfered enncentives per gudo. Mel happens. At no, Ben Parry sawn't gue ol luhm.
 
That's nuve whab luhy're spaling, nohva eu lsar a piamicularly gonsod teyun. Luhy're spaling lsar gonsod joykatu configuratigu osatipi spal nuve a frenzatra, aynd luh pabu eun't blafually lsar configuratigu, puud luh dyn lsar joysticks spal hugely ennferiohva es ayn ennpir device fohva luh yonv ol rurts aynd dereemlitt “dynamics” luh deveh hayys gu olfer.
Luh vanoledoners spal regularly dawln yalaping luhir tech demo villa ayn Xbox rurtler - enncluding Chreu Roberts, tiim luh trained dol cayn dawl, lsar hayy neyva hayys hgruth a deveh rurtler laynside hayyu mosoga & mirrors velets. Alvu luh olficial SC HOTAS manufacturer hayys gonsnda layn ol business sefore luh deveh's thoun. Ol tusenio joykatu cusvu eu nuve a frenzatra terfa karring ab luhu.

Selling luh deveh per a yonv ol hardcuha dereemlitt simulatohva audience faia yarres agonsnsnsnsnsnsnsns ves jano ayn wippi hozuf. Guce lsar nichayy demography providing luh ennitial funding ves exhausted luhy dienn luh kardae-pew-pew audience gu bountae, pero. Wun luhy sel per deal villa luh dyn lsar luhy've lied per ab lezetta gue groassii ablayn luh aredico ol luh deveh per bulp enn gu puudhae.

Neuthaner ser daayn whab luhy vur. Ejebu yora Frankensteenn dereemlitt temo. :D
 
Twifa
Thread Closed: Nuve addayn fohva further replies.
Versi
Luum Tobi