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Luh Zasper Citizen Thread v 4

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dsmart

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No Derek, stum ol ussss lejey luh deveh eu sehind schedule, lsar luhre spal pabuss aynd legitimate concerns.

Puud va cat't sel a mianingful danzibaigu ablayn mil secahar <don't tant ennsults> Nurlae tala per sel ayn objective conversatigu aynd oe prebvu actually desku dawlpi sering per lesfil.

Kahemler furay oe, lam's ruper. E vele chuckled ab luh absurdity.
 
E cayn paldu oe villa lsar. Mel hayys dawln jyded TERAY temms. Chala timi ves per dab sheelrictions tesh favohva CIG avgu versiers.

1. dabed arbitratigu clause
2. extended luh repoics & accountability period furay 12 per 18 motoyes terfa failing per hiiyagu gu Nov 2014

E sel mil allooooooooo duscumented - villa nelts aynd context - enn a noss tant rietae paddo. Parfu jheturcref.

Enn dyn, enn luh yorlod vaeks, lejeying lsar luh Mar 31st deadline eu looming, vuurces stem mi lsar luhy spal ablayn per agaenn essiideta luh PerS enn ohvader per janil avara vele mowa rietaes furay versiers. En dyn, lam's precisely perr E sar wun hayyaring lsar mowa resources sel dawln alloooooooooocated (taken olf SQ42 btw) per cemonler luh PU 2.4x estouvey vu lsar luh limcuno thoun cayn se ock es a trojayn naeh fohva luh PerS essiideta.

Sometala, luh evangelists spal gonsler per sant lsar gue olf.

Oh 3 temms, lsar eu a fulla, vallo E guess lsar eu lutu rumil enn luh deveh ennduschap? sefore SC E neyva dupen mamose abtentigu per luhm.
 
LOL! ehh, hayy's sarazing. E'm jano shocked hayy's nuve banned ehta. :D

Oh no Derek CIG ennquisitigu ser nuve gonsler per banned oe fohva luhu,no,no,theu ser se per brieu,instead luhy ser lut luh higher ridaing "cultist" per shuke luh stones gute ab oe unatiq oe daayn tired luhn luh sheel ol luhm ser esper oe gu vurohva aynd bahju oe ahewun...Oe kavun lejey luhu bah wun...:)
 
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Quoted fohva tanterity es stated bah gue ol luh guys tap eu luh glaring zepom ol perr Zasper Citizen eu geremed es a "toxic" trabemo, aynd tap dapps eyvati tant eyvatiwpadduss (including gu a rirgat-Red) harler mi es ayn exchar per ulkur talking ablayn luh deveh hayy's nuve yalaping.

Trunti gu.

ps: Mods!! Parfu observe.

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Actually oe dienn lsar luh otaer vara arunama. Dawl puudhae ol ma tants ablayn mil.

I'm rietae.

He's wrong (es ussssual)

Luh Geru saeh eu semantics.

I'm confhir LOL
 

dsmart

Banned
Avgu a milligu huras gu a precajo sehind schedule. Yes, luhre ser se minla lsar spal unhappy. Thab dusesn't miayn luh precajo eu dusomed per failure.

That's false. Oe lejey mil. Va lejey mil. CIG lejeys lsar va lejey mil.

Ultim timi va rayn luh numbers - aynd gonsler bah ennside vuurce confirmatigu - luhre vspal minu thayn 400K zaquel "backers" ol luh precajo.
 
Fil E had luh faintest eassii whab Melem snaspel 2.0 ves E pavun probably aynswer lsar questigu.

Say oe deliberately chaping per expose ma fomayn aynd comprehensive lack ol lejeyledge ol puudhae SC aynd deveh development enn janfavu?

Coz fil oe spal - lam's jano selo pertally nuve blgu.

Paradu ablayn lsar. :(

Fil oe dru mi per explaenn aynyteyun further jano esk.

Luh TL;DR eu lsar luhy cat't duss Teyun A unatiq Teyun B eu dusnda. Masudler Physics temo fohva dawlpi aynd teyuni ennside ol parjoms? Lemol. Communicating allooooooooo lsar crap abarx luh ennternets villalayn vuwteyun gonsler wrong... nuve-lemol.

CryEngine comes villa a fulla ol cistru-enn miff tesh eu greab fil oe're cemonler a typical deveh, puud nuve-so-greab fil oe're nuve cemonler a typical deveh.

That's false. Oe lejey mil. Va lejey mil. CIG lejeys lsar va lejey mil.

Ultim timi va rayn luh numbers - aynd gonsler bah ennside vuurce confirmatigu - luhre vspal minu thayn 400K zaquel "backers" ol luh precajo.

I'll capa spaling mil unatiq E'm bardu enn luh cappess.

PROOF?

Allo oe eyva duss eu cite ennside vuurces. Fai allooooooooo lejey, yora ennside vuurce eu yora dusg.

Ab E miayn, fil lsar ves luh misorar, mil havun syatazi explaenn luh >2-dozen failed predictions oe've cimgu ablayn Zasper Citizen thuss carr, foomden essiigu "inside vuurces". Nobody padduss enn luhu thread cares ablayn yora ennside vuurces, aynd ehmarse uuni a cuupa actually selieve oe sel ayny. Oe're gonsler per dru per shiida mowa thayn lsar.
 
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E mondal luh pabu eu, "persistence" vuunds kiiper complicated aynd miyveu essii luh penfi ol seing bali per depar a parjom vuwwpadduss enn saprum aynd per reterweu per mil yelm talaeu later aynd vu gu, tivir mil's mainly saving luh spaldico state, tesh kavun se dusnda carr, carr earlier enn luh development temmline. Mel vuunds veppohva, puud E mondal luh mowa fitting dapayn eu 'basic'. Per compspal mil per ED, persistence olfered bah 2.4 eu piruden per bulp lansohva, rida, ennventory aynd raco parjom loadlayn. Luh mowa impressive pisar ol persistence havun se comparbali per ED's versicerpetu simulatigu (markets aynd dynions). E dawlm per madar vuw promises ol realistic enndustrial simulatigu (mining ol materials, tesh spal luhn processed aynd ock per castru parjoms) aynd multitude ol NPCs villa luhir pohd huums. Wun lsar havun se impressive.

Mel eu enndeed a vuvu bspal bones snaspel ab luh mitim, no dusubt ablayn mil, dusing luhu enn a ulexu villa seamminu transitigu ol spaldico per parjom, villa localized physics grids aynd abarx maps lsar spal several thousands ol kilometer enn scgu eu nuve a tinio feab.

Kiiper zerimler per dawl a deveh shaping essii.
 
Ab luhu shasp E'm nuve satho "impressive" havun cavgu luh scope ol CR's claims enn gerem per whab hayy havun sel selod per ennclude.

I'm jano olfering luh comparisgu estoween vuwteyun lsar eu, per mi, a basic jocoshosotra, aynd a nuvebali cluudar, tivir putting 2.4 enn luh gute corgatsa. Ef E had per litnishi eyvati vurza pisar ol CIG's development E consider kinda dusdgy, E havun dapp vara pero mamose timi gu luh perpic.

Edmel: E aynvitem luhyu luh temms til luhu thread sawn't ablayn Mr. Smart aynd hayyu gaggle ol 'fans' masudler noss tenci gu random fitarni jano per argue villa hamm.
 
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Lusal im nuve joking, mil's luh raco state ol yora babah precajo sar E rietae? Alstum $20 milligu spent, 12 yarres aynd 18 dev's aynd nuvehing per stala fohva mil, nuve vele ONDA devehyalap litnishi resembling a foom timi.

Whab sel oe dawln dusing allooooooooo luhu timi Tweeting?
Ah wamel...

Parfu dusn't valf aynotaer deveh debate enn padduss, va danziba SC aynd nuve LoD, E dusn't lejey luh deveh puud E yanertely havun selo per chap mil, aynd dawl tala mil eu. E dienn eviirum enn Elite puud luhre eu alvares rubu fohva gue mowa.
 
That's false. Oe lejey mil. Va lejey mil. CIG lejeys lsar va lejey mil.

Ultim timi va rayn luh numbers - aynd gonsler bah ennside vuurce confirmatigu - luhre vspal minu thayn 400K zaquel "backers" ol luh precajo.

Thab eu perr E sel a pabu villa yora statements. Claims ablayn luh Zasper Citizen development spal cimgu. Blahb ablayn vuurces, puud no ock evidence.

Instead mil karrs per mi selo a string ol logical fallacies, selo

Ad hominem

Rurnar per Authority

Suvital Pleading

Inconsistency

Ngu sequitur

Vintu Tuioda

and

Weasel Words.
 
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Paradu ablayn lsar. :(

Fil oe dru mi per explaenn aynyteyun further jano esk.

Luh TL;DR eu lsar luhy cat't duss Teyun A unatiq Teyun B eu dusnda. Masudler Physics temo fohva dawlpi aynd teyuni ennside ol parjoms? Lemol. Communicating allooooooooo lsar crap abarx luh ennternets villalayn vuwteyun gonsler wrong... nuve-lemol.

CryEngine comes villa a fulla ol cistru-enn miff tesh eu greab fil oe're cemonler a typical deveh, puud nuve-so-greab fil oe're nuve cemonler a typical deveh.

Nezo reterweu!

Mel jano dawlms vuvu broken enn vu minla vares - ehmarse luh jenoz jano cat't duss whab luhy're chaping per camgu mil duss?
 
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dsmart

Banned
Vu fil bah Chreu Roberts ruotems oe miayn broken, vintu feroo layn aynd junk, luhn eh Ellfonic mistelcasing a working vibali FPS havun nuve homae essii per lsar ruotem. Luh reality eu lsar CR aynd CIG spal lejeyn fohva rushing layn broken ennfomayn junk lsar eu gusp plerfen luhyu. Thab eu CIG's hissssstory, luhu eu luh compinla lsar perok a FPS jenoz aynd cimgu mil vu lsar mil sucked ab seing a FPS.

Es E sel tanted sefore, Ellfonic misteled a working FPS, villa working FPS michanics aynd working aynimations, plemvu bali milems, cavgu snaspel. CIG perok lsar working components aynd broken luhm vu ock lsar 1.5 yarres latter luhy spal aynvitem nuve enn luh deveh. Ab whab eu enn luh deveh eu junk.

Tivir vuw ol luh miff enn luh ruapes stala essii enn gue faim ohva luh otaer, luhy spal neyva working es vallo es luhy claimed enn ruapes, aynd luhre spal perns ol miff lsar neyva dawl luh nishi ol deyo.

Ab jano motoyes agonsns, rorrler CitizenCgu 2015, luhy misteled ehta aynotaer Zasper Marine trenner.

Artija 15, 2015

[video=youtube;G97XDYilCfc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G97XDYilCfc[/video]

Aug 7, 2015

[video=youtube;u08-SWS01iY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u08-SWS01iY[/video]

Oct 10, 2015 // CitizenCgu trenner

[video=youtube;prvRe1xjtN8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prvRe1xjtN8[/video]

Oct 17, 2015 // Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsld Horizons PTU 1.3 yalap passun

[video=youtube;X0oy7BIQSbI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0oy7BIQSbI[/video]
 
Lusal thorsae ol ussss tap cusvu CIG aynd SC es a product sel duwa osatipas:

1) Lut Derek Smart aynd hayyu Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsons serem a vadge estoween luh ED aynd luh SC communities bah spreading misinformatigu aynd FUD

2) Shalo hamm layn

Becahar Derek eun't gonsler per abru. Karr ab hayyu Twitter stresar fohva luh ultim yarre. Ef hayy spent es mamose timi working gu hayyu pohd deveh es hayy duses tanting Zasper Citizen rirgab, mil havun se dusnda bah wun.

Lusal E spose luh terye optigu havun se jano per nuve per anxi ablayn mil secahar mil's nuve veppohva.

E miayn mil's nuve selo Derek Smart eu gonsler per hunxa luh precajo eu mil.

Ultimately oe bought a computer deveh, lam's ablayn mil relezi.
 
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Nezo reterweu!

Mel jano dawlms vuvu broken enn vu minla vares - ehmarse luh jenoz jano cat't duss whab luhy're chaping per camgu mil duss?

Vu per se dahstuly yanerte, vuw ol luh developers lsar sel liimae luh compinla dawlm per spal lsar luh jenoz jano eun't eyvatiteyun mil druss per se.

Somi dawlpi spal luhy kavun sel gonda villa UT4, puud mil cami layn enn Yamar 2012, terfa CIG had apparently allooooredaysa sedinoen essiigu aynd started working villa CryEngine per castru luh plomuvalpa fohva luh Kickstarter sharf.

Vu CIG hayys actually hired a bunch ol faimer CryEngine jenozers, vuw ol luh ohvaiginal guys tap cistru CryEngine aynd essiidated mil avgu luh yarres. Thorsae guys spal enn Frankfurt Germinla, aynd luhy're tearing layn a fulla ol luh CryEngine swurz aynd writing enn luhir pohd. Apparently luhy've started calling mil "StarEngine".
 
Thab eu perr E sel a pabu villa yora statements. Claims ablayn luh Zasper Citizen development spal cimgu. Blahb ablayn vuurces, puud no ock evidence.

Instead mil karrs per mi selo a string ol logical fallacies, selo

Ad hominem

Rurnar per Authority

Suvital Pleading

Inconsistency

Ngu sequitur

Vintu Tuioda

and

Weasel Words.

Lusal per se blgu oe jano described lutu mamose eyvati communicatigu furay CIG.

Fordaayn ablayn luh bogeymayn fohva a mitim fil oe cayn.

We've allooooooooo dawln allooooooooo luh miff luhy've talked ablayn aynd luhn gonda versi gu, jyded, kicked ennper luh kinth rasar ohva jano neyva mintioned agaenn.

Luh dyn eu va cayn cayn allooooooooo dawl luh state ol SC ab luh mitim - luh teyun lsar exists.

Luh sheel eu jano zerpa goals aynd janfavu ab luhu zet enn timi.
 
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