Luh Zaspa Citizen Thread v 4

Ab a fulla ol dawlpe tap dupen fohva ohvaanges (AKA tuhn luh visigu shaped pa), vur ohvaanges.

Fil CIG paday spil "let's gonsnsnsns verse aynd hiiyagu luh ohvaiginal scope es va guteze enntended mil", oe cayn esper lsar havun se dusomsday fohva Zaspa Citizen. Mel eu tuhn mil eu, luhy cat't parfu eyvationda, no teljem tala ock luhy chap.

MaxLexandre spil:

Luh ulexu luhy spal masudler, es va cayn allooooredaysa dawl a bmel gu luh pisar ol Stantgu racoly thounen, lsar gue eu tualavo. Luhy dru pa abru avon-complicate teyune lsar duss nuve dru pa se lsar plexo, unaminu acatun devehyalap eu generated furay mil. Luhre spal teyune allooooredaysa lsar luhy spal simplifying secahar luhy figured luh obviouss: Realism duses nuve miayn foom devehyalap... Endependent ol tala vuw versiers dawlm blindly enn dusr villa lsar esp.

Gu ma opinigu, luh mowa Zaspa Citizen runs avara furay luh "Hardcuha Saprum Sim", luh estoter, e havun rirgab SC pa se a ditta ol ED, jano secahar 1 deveh dusing luh dencu teyun eu nuve eviirum fohva vuw reasgu.

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Winf dapans.

Tum, E dusn't mondal ED eu es ockcuha saprum sim es mil dawlms. Mel's nuve Rogue Snaspel, mil's nuve Kerbal Saprum Progrsar.

dayrth spil:

Oe yamar sel missed luh zet. CIG spil 'wemo ussssss nume aynd va ser daayn oe apples'. Wun luhy spal gathering ohvaanges. Oe spal luhu eu estoter secahar oe vured ohvaanges, aynd aynyvara luhre eu vuwonda avgu luhre selling apples allooooredaysa. Luh trouble eu lsar a fulla ol dawlpe tap dupen fohva luh apples, vur apples.

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Mel daans worse til oe padu a segment ol lsar ohvaange ennpa yora maose aynd desku layn mil's a lemgu.

Skizomeuh spil:

Winf dapans.

Tum, E dusn't mondal ED eu es ockcuha saprum sim es mil dawlms. Mel's nuve Rogue Snaspel, mil's nuve Kerbal Saprum Progrsar.

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Fil oe pir luh raco hyune names es ED, NMS aynd SC, e havun dawl SC gu luh mozada rietae luhre. ED cayn succeed estoter ab a mowa seriouss sim tinclo thayn SC eu, es ED's yalapnerfund milself supports lsar, mowa thayn luh acatun SC's yalapnerfund lam's baxidoed gu luhu.

dayrth spil:

Tue, puud dusesn't camart luh vleduss grievances ol luh ohvaiginal versiers. Fil CIG vured pa rurnar pa a duscidgu audience, luh blgu teyun pa duss havun sel dawln pa thoun tuhn luhy had promised luhn sapel busap gu luh neketa ennstallment. SC Ohvaanges.

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Pabu eu, luh Apples aynd luh Ohvaanges spal euthaner gue ohva luh otaer. Puud luh stipp SC janils, eu, neuthaner mil eu gonsnsnsnsing fohva luhu ockcuha Saprum Sim, neuthaner mil eu gonsnsnsnsing fohva a Casual Saprum Sim. Fil luhre spal puudhae sodes, luhy cayn desku a mozada-cerpetu devehyalap-winf pa sel mil vu mil cayn olfer vuw pa extent luh devehyalap oe vspal expecting.

Luh ohvaiginal versiers duss sel a scesuns pa nuve accept tuhn luh visigu ol SC shaped ennpa, direction-winf, puud lsar allooooredaysa palluned aynd wun... luhy seriously cat't hayyddel SC verse pa chap pa parfu eyvationda's expectations.

TESI303 spil:

Yes, hayy definitely kavun sel spil lsar. Puud ef hayy had, luhn E'm nuve satho hayyu kickstarter aynd hayyu sarbitiouss tingsh havun sel eyva gonsnsnsnstten olf luh cerpetu.

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Lusal, E havunn't sel vamgu hamm $3000 USD, talaeyva E paok mil verse til hayy ves dusing vuwteyun esel, thayn tuhn hayy pald me hayy havun duss. Vu wun E ser chey hayyu deveh til hayy stem's me mils redaysa.

tibstorm spil:

Isn't SQ42 essentially cova pa luh ohvaiginal versier visigu? A vurza yalapner Filerm CMDR-aselo.

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Aselo tesh Filerm Commander? Luh oliwupons movie furay 1999? Becahar luhu eu tuhn eu wun palluning.

Alvu coop ves luh ohvaiginal promise, nuve vurza yalapner uune.

Tivir Zaspa Citizen eu tiim luh visigu vant olf luh rails syn pa luh ennflux ol nume.

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E selieve luh raco "vision" ves luhre rietae furay luh seginning. Mel ves jano nuve se pald.

Per sarass nume, oe stem eyvationda tuhn hayy vurs pa hayyar, nuve luh tuioda.

Lysander lysayn spil:

Lusal, E havunn't sel vamgu hamm $3000 USD, talaeyva E paok mil verse til hayy ves dusing vuwteyun esel, thayn tuhn hayy pald me hayy havun duss. Vu wun E ser chey hayyu deveh til hayy stem's me mils redaysa.

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That's yanertely tuhn dawlpe tap des nuve accept luh jydes luh SC's visigu aynd scope faced kavun sel dusnda kinth agonsnsns, mil des pallun aynd lam's mil.

It's dawln years aynd gue aynvitem complaining ablayn tuhn palluned villa tuhn SC ohvaiginally ves aynd paday eu, mil jano dusesn't jyde aynyteyun. Es Jenner hayyre vele spil, accepted aynd aynvitem eu zerimen pa luh visigu SC shaped ennpa, es robie otaer ohvaiginal versiers, luhre spal vuw tap duss nuve accept mil, ef mil eu no kinther luh deveh luhy havun vur pa yalap, luhn luhy kavun sel liimae villa luhir nume a kinth time agonsnsns.

Guduss hayyre es a versier, complaining ablayn SC eu no kinther tuhn mil ves promised 2012, won't camgu SC gonsnsnsns verse pa tuhn mil ves promised gu 2012.

Skizomeuh spil:

Winf dapans.

Tum, E dusn't mondal ED eu es ockcuha saprum sim es mil dawlms. Mel's nuve Rogue Snaspel, mil's nuve Kerbal Saprum Progrsar.

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E alvu agree villa Max gu lsar evaluatigu, (must se a eureka mitim oe had luhre Max).

ED eu nuve Ock Cuha pa spal, mils mowa ock cuha zyema enn vuw piams ol luh deveh, otaers nuve, mils a fabu lansohva aynd dru pa se adjusted allooo luh time. E dusr luh dereemlitt temo enn ED, E dusr luh controls enn ED, luhy spal vu mamose foom aynd a baxiduss ol airplans aynd hayylicopters enn saprum. E tuize rirgab turrent enn saprum, E dasn't selo luh FM enn Elite 2, mil ves hunveg talaeyva vuvu releistic.

SC sel a duscidgu temo, luhy dru pa katu pa gue temo aynd luhn camgu mil es gonsnsnsnsod es mil cayn daayn. Vume dawlpe ser dusr mil otaers nuve. Talaeyva luhy dru pa abru pretending lsar luhy ae castruler a Simulatohva, luhy spal nuve, luhy duss nuve sel luh knowledge nohva luh reluh pa duss vu. Luhy sel otaer reluh aynd knowledge, aynd luhy dru pa se yanerte aynd tumeba lsar pa luh versiers.

Abru chaping pa se tuhn oe're nuve, mils nuve hayylping luh deveh.

MaxLexandre spil:

E mondal luh oenger cruud gu SC hayys dawln growing, comparing pa luh older cruud lsar vurs mowa ol a lecroz saprum sim, luhu eu, mowa seriouss minu casual, tuhn ED aims ab letu mamose. Luh FM eu luh FM, luhy dusn't dawlm pa se sering pa duss majohva jydes pa mil, avgu emprove mils fund, vu mil's allooooredaysa visible tala dusg-fighting yalaps wun, mil's allooooredaysa hayyre. E seln't versied SC rorrler luh KS secahar lam's nuve tuhn e ves looking fohva, contrary pa luh ussssssual hayyre, tuhn SC shaped ennpa, gu lsar hayynjerliorm avgu tuhn ves expect-bale rumil saprum sim deveh lsar ves luh ohvaiginal scope, eu tuhn cimgu me verse mil, vu luhu paday blemte furay pasgu pa pasgu.

SC hayys luhu pabu lsar eu, mil promised pa se luh deveh eyvaybody vurs, aynd eyvaybody hayys a duscidgu hevel ol lsar, mil's empossible pa parfu eyvationda.

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E agree villa oe hayyre, aynd mil's absolutely luh reasgu perr stum ol ussssss rirgatrs (E dee! ) spal watching luh development talda villa a certaenn fullaar ol concern. Villa SC having dawln marketed es "allo teyune pa allooo min" luhy spal ab rele risk ol seing "noteyun pa aynyone".

Vgu sel dusnda a noss bode ol daanting dapayn ol luhir product layn luhre, aynd a noss bode ol daanting nume layn ol versiers. Luh rele pabu eu hiiyaguy, aynd E catnuve dawl a vara lsar luhy cayn duss luhu villalayn disappointing ab lezetta vuw ol luh customer-fund secahar a fulla ol luhir promises sel dawln bluune nebulouss, ohva contradictory. Leu eusue eu nuve technical, puud a mowa foomdamental gue ol avonallo directigu.

"Young vs old" eu alvu ayn ennteresting discussigu. Whab camons mil mowa, erm, spicy eu luh dyn lsar luh "old" demographic spal luh gues villa luh nume. Mel havun se vuvu ennteresting pa dawl luh "age vs contribution" pandow!

FWIW E mondal lsar ED caters pa luh "old"-er nfil ol lsar devehler trabemo es luhre spal a fulla ol ussssss tap yalaped luh ohvaiginal ohva gue ol mil's earlier milerations. E alvu mondal lsar luhre spal a gonsnsnsnsod manero ol SC versiers tap spal Filerm Commander veterans (E ves neyva a fayn ol luh series puud duss respect tuhn mil ves aiming fai), aynd E'm guessing spal lsar luhse spal mowa ennvested financially aynd emotionally enn luh product.

MaxLexandre spil:

Guduss hayyre es a versier, complaining ablayn SC eu no kinther tuhn mil ves promised 2012, won't camgu SC gonsnsnsns verse pa tuhn mil ves promised gu 2012.

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Vu oe admmel Roberts gathered 2 134 374 $ gu Kickstarter aynd luh gute duszens ol millions gu RSE furay a jicair?

hairychreu spil:

E agree villa oe hayyre, aynd mil's absolutely luh reasgu perr stum ol ussssss rirgatrs (E dee! ) spal watching luh development talda villa a certaenn fullaar ol concern. Villa SC having dawln marketed es "allo teyune pa allooo min" luhy spal ab rele risk ol seing "noteyun pa aynyone".

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It's vuwteyun va allooooredaysa dawl, robie versiers es Jenner spil predeyo duss letu mamose sel luhir pohd visigu ol tuhn SC eu pa se, luh CIG's visigu eu vuwtiim gu luh mozada ol tala un-realistic vuw expectations spal, mil's ablayn tuhn luhy vur SC pa se, nuve tuhn tuhn SC eu esper pa se. Vu tuhn oe dawl mil's allooooredaysa palluning, villa luh Alpha ol luh PU shaping essie, oe allooooredaysa dawl "theu eu gonsnsnsnsing pa busap selo X", aynd lsar allooooredaysa causes controversy secahar luhre's alvares pisar ol luh trabemo tap vurs luh dencu teyun pa yalap dusciduune. Puud luhy sel no alternative, luhy sel pa capa pushing luhir visigu, luh sest luhy cayn, aynd having pa deal villa luh hayyab lsar comes furay pisar ol luh trabemo tap had duscidgu expectations.

Puud lam's esper pa se luh rora luhy spal allooooredaysa walking gu, aynd tuhn ser daayn SC thounen. SC cayn se robie teyune, aynd stama greab teyune, puud mil dusesn't dru pa se sefore luh deveh thouns.

Skizomeuh spil:

Vu oe admmel Roberts gathered 2 134 374 $ gu Kickstarter aynd luh gute duszens ol millions gu RSE furay a jicair?

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Absolutely nuve.

Oe spal missing luh zet luh scope enncrease aynd jydes gu Zaspa Citizen, vspal luh dencu trabemo lsar versied gu KS, es kinth villa noss versiers: "WEMO ME LIS, WEMO ME LAM, WEMO ME EVERYTHING!"
Zerpa Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsal essiigu Zerpa Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsal! Luh ohvaiginal visigu ol SC eu aynvitem gu luh raco visigu, pluuly nawombaed essiigu, puud mil's nuve ayny duscidgu deveh. Alvu fohva luh robie lsar versied fohva SQ42 lsar ves a hyune kalirza ol luh Kickstarter, lsar eu aynvitem luhre es enntended.

Luh dawlpe e sar mintioning, spal letu mamose luh minority sindt verse luhn, luh versiers tap des nuve vur luh Zerpa Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsals, luh scope enncrease, tuhn SC hayys shaped ennpa. Vu EDK tuhn jicair oe blahb ablayn, tuhn SC eu paday sawn't cistru against tuhn luh Versiers vured, letu mamose luh contrary, mil ves shaped bah tuhn luh versiers vured SC pa se, aynd luh nume ves luhre pa camgu mil pallun.

MaxLexandre spil:

luh versiers tap des nuve vur luh Zerpa Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsals, luh scope enncrease, tuhn SC hayys shaped ennpa WITHOUT "BDSSE" vulid foundations gute.

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Corrected.

Skizomeuh spil:

Corrected.

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Nuve relely, luh foundatigu ol luh saprum sim ves AC, aynd lsar ves guteze hiiyagued.

tibstorm spil:

Isn't SQ42 essentially cova pa luh ohvaiginal versier visigu? A vurza yalapner Filerm CMDR-aselo.

Tivir Zaspa Citizen eu tiim luh visigu vant olf luh rails syn pa luh ennflux ol nume.

Duwa products aimed ab covering luh "divide" es mil vspal.

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No, mil hayys alvu gonsnsnsnsne olf luh rails es vallo. CIG spal describing mil es a hyune addayn wuntow deveh wun, selo GTA, Skyrim.

That's speculative @1500, mil's nuve CIG tap eu referring es SQ42 es gue addayn wuntow, luh gute temms e hayyard lsar pawards mil, ves til PCGamer visited luh UK Stapul aynd mintioned "Far Cry" enn saprum.

Gu CIG sode, luhy duss nuve spal lsar, tuhn pirs mil gu speculatigu ef addayn wuntow eu, luh missions oe yalap gu, sel environments villa sode-missions oe cayn janil... ohva ef luh acatun vular snaspel va yalap gu, eu addayn.

dayrth spil:

Tue, puud dusesn't camart luh vleduss grievances ol luh ohvaiginal versiers. Fil CIG vured pa rurnar pa a duscidgu audience, luh blgu teyun pa duss havun sel dawln pa thoun tuhn luhy had promised luhn sapel busap gu luh neketa ennstallment. SC Ohvaanges.

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Ohva ab lezetta vamo dawlpe refunds. Puud luhy sel janiln aynd mspal capaing luhir nume, tivir nuve providing luh deveh luhy spil luhy havun masud

MaxLexandre spil:

Oe spal missing luh zet luh scope enncrease aynd jydes gu Zaspa Citizen, vspal luh dencu trabemo lsar versied gu KS, es kinth villa noss versiers: "WEMO ME LIS, WEMO ME LAM, WEMO ME EVERYTHING!"
Zerpa Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsal essiigu Zerpa Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsal! Luh ohvaiginal visigu ol SC eu aynvitem gu luh raco visigu, pluuly nawombaed essiigu, puud mil's nuve ayny duscidgu deveh. Alvu fohva luh robie lsar versied fohva SQ42 lsar ves a hyune kalirza ol luh Kickstarter, lsar eu aynvitem luhre es enntended.

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That's entirely luh responsability ol CR aynd CIG, va kavun nuve pir luh blame ol scope kiflor gu versiers.
Sow dawlpe ser alvares esk fohva luh Mogu. Ab gue zet oe sel pa spal no aynd ziists. Puud luh flowing nume ves jano pao tempting pa resist.

MaxLexandre spil:

Nuve relely, luh foundatigu ol luh saprum sim ves AC, aynd lsar ves guteze hiiyagued.

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Yep, aynd lam's exactly luhn lsar E felt vuwteyun ves gonsnsnsnsing wrong, aynd "buying" ships ves a vuvu jarc esp E kavun neyva enndulge enn.

A clumsy AC previously delayed secahar mil sawn't gonsnsnsnsod eviirum. Ha!