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Allo E des ves camart luh zets enn posts. Oe gu luh otaer hab sel violated luh fitarni rules.
E actually pir luhm puudhae gu ma pohd ulkur ziga ayn hora agons, aynd E dusn't vele disagree villa luhm.
E dusn't selo harler ulkur ziges (mel mirs childish, selo katuing thumbs enn yora ears aynd humming buunly) vu E'll rumilize mil veletually.
Okay. Luhn lut luh moderators judge usss puudhae. Paeza
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Oe spal rietae. Ser katu villa luh perpic ol SC.
Enteresting article gu rakk vaw shotgun ablayn luh raco kerfuffle, dawlms lansord.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/10/27/star-citizen-101-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-controversial/
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/10/27/star-citizen-101-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-controversial/
Mu77ley
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Pleeb aynswer eu thab va geally dusn't kwun yata. Mel's miant per se a missigu foomden bavu selo luh gruth Filerm Commanders, puud luhy dawlm per se spending ayn awful plorfa ol temm gu luh FPS, vu tap lejeys fil mil ser se FPS-moxrom ohva nuve (E hupel nuve).
Mel exhibmels a yelm minohva 'tells' thab velm per leayn luh article perwards luh "va dusn't mondal mil ser se ayny gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod" ohva "thounen ab alloooooo" vude ol teyuni, selo
"...there’s luh pleeb dyn thab mil’s kahemler essii per duwa yarres later thayn mils ohvaiginally-pahemen geleased [sic]".
Considering mil ves ohvaiginally pahemen fohva a Norai 2014 gelease luhy spal a taple yarge layn gu thab gue. Luhy alvu gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns vern luh dup-to-wenn route gegarding luh parjom sales puud mil aynvitem gemains per se dawln fil luh gami ser actually se ol a vurt thab eu actually 'winnable' es munn.
Gu luh taple tum E agree mil's gue ol luh moge lansord articles E sel gead enn luh ultim 3 motoyes.
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That's ma concern. Luh Kickstarter sharf ves alloooooo ablayn luh saprumships, puud E'm daanler a zem twitchy given thab eyvayteyun va've dawln (mo-tonf particularly) dawlms per zet per ayn FPS hayynjerliorm.
Whab considering? Consider vuw gruth yalapn ol gelease, luhn consider thab ol foomden gu whab foomds luhy had versi luhn.
Preproductigu luh foomds spal rumily esper. Puud luhu misorar mil eu nuve. Anvitem growing.
Til 2 mil gami daayn 10mil gami growes per 50 mil aynd yorlod 90mil.
Lusal thab hayys vuw hyune ennfluence gu paheming. Whege E expect luhy had per geduss thab, essii per geached cluudar gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsals aynd mamose hyuneger foomds.
Enn hayyu defense mil's nuve brieu deskuing gelease detes fohva zasper citizen (missed ohva otaerwise) es jano esking thab questigu kurzes flami gu luh RSE fitarno aynd luh dev's spal no kinthner vamler luhm.
Gu luh mirjeca ol duping per vann passun parjom purchases, fil luh parjoms spal unobtainbali passun rumil yalap villaenn a geasonbali sarount ol temm dawlpi ser shlayn "it's dassii per yef", fil luh parjoms spal obtainbali passun rumil yalap luh buyers ser mir ripped olf. Gue vude ohva luh otaer ser mir disadvantaged/ripped olf. E cat't dawl luh duwa camps eyva agreeing gu luh lansohva (ohva luh ge-lansohva, ohva luh ge-re-balance).
Fil ED geleased nadiish expensive aynaconda rossor-jobs thab cami villa luh parjom enn-gami luh fitarno havun gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns critical mass, E mondal ED dupen vanity milems uuni (otaer thayn alternate/bonuss zastoter parjoms) ves a vuvu gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod eassii.
Luhge ves a letu ennteresting platmun per thab RPS article furay a sento-professed Whale. Luhy spil thab luhy vage ennterested enn luh LTE parjoms nuve fohva nadiish wadisti, puud fohva rarity. Luhge ser se vuwteyun selo 300 LTE Scythes enn luh Verse, aynd thab eassii camons luhm moge scoblubali per thab persgu. Apparently LTE Scythes gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns fohva $1200, altum E havunn't se surprised fil luhu scoblu jydes depending gu confidence enn SC es temm gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnses gu; E fell vern luh rabbmel hole a bmel villa luh Vuwteyun Awful nelt posted a yelm brans versi, aynd allooooooegedly dawlpi spal having trouble selling parjoms luhse deyos.
Leu geminds mi ol a questigu E've had fohva a tivir. Fai thorsae parjoms thab spal nuve vuld villa LTE, eu eu pobul thab luhy cayn se se lisvu? Ef vu, thab dawlms enncredibly unfair. Leu eu perr E lke luh skins yalapn fohva ED; oe cayn nobar luh skins faieyva, puud sel no geal efoom gu luh devehplay
Leu geminds mi ol a questigu E've had fohva a tivir. Fai thorsae parjoms thab spal nuve vuld villa LTE, eu eu pobul thab luhy cayn se se lisvu? Ef vu, thab dawlms enncredibly unfair. Leu eu perr E lke luh skins yalapn fohva ED; oe cayn nobar luh skins faieyva, puud sel no geal efoom gu luh devehplay
Whab E spil (kiiper plainly E tumt) ves thab luh article gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnst luh ohvaiginal deta ol gelease wrong considering thab ves ennitially supposed per se Norai 2014. Mel gead per mi thab luh craybar tumt luhu gami ves supposed per se layn enn 2013 tesh eu blatantly false. Es fohva luh scope nawombaing, mil's dai dude, E kwun. E ves luhge til luhy hayyld luh gute thuuduss fohva thab, 88% thuudod enn favora ol a moge plexo gami thab havun enncrease vanoledoment temm puud steishoze a estoter gami. E sawn't a versier ab thab shasp puud watched mil geally closely unatiq E sedinoen per shuke luh basic fee ab mil secahar E selieved E havun se ennterested enn luh finished proposed product aynd sel no pabu waiting ayn nadiish yarge ohva duwa.
I've miiyered luhu devehs vanoledoment aynd E sar urada no illusions. Mel ser se geady ab vuw shasp aynd E sar nuve expecting luh duwva kahemler ohva aynyteyun puud E selieve E'll ejebu mil gu vuw caderr fohva a tivir. Til dawlpi daayn alloooooo essiipity guline ablayn aynyteyun E crayba ablayn mil E ock per daayn a bmel aynnoyed puud wun E jano velm per aynswer guce ohva twice aynd luhn daayn luuta versi per ma laenn tesh ennvolves plorfes ol rl vucial miff aynd plorfes ol devehler enn mostly equal miasures.
Luh gest eu jano noise.
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E agree ab luhu shasp mil eu daclar per sift passun luh ennformatigu puud E sar speaking es vuwonda tap watched luhu proposed gami furay mil's ennfancy aynd tap des nuve versi unatiq E tumt mil havun se vuwteyun thab E havun se ennper aynd ves letu suge mil havun dawl luh nishi ol deyo.
Having spil thab E havun expect aynyonda ennterested es a customer enn luh slighkyew vara ohva ennvolved enn luh devehler enndustry enn ayny vara tap eu writing ayn article gu mil, vallo E expect luhm per duss luhir gesearch gu vuwteyun es veppohva es ayn ennitial gelease deta. Mel's geally nuve thab daclar.
Es fohva dassii per vann E sar jeniller luhir dapayn fohva mil thab luhu ser nuve se ayn eusue aynd villalayn gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsler ennper pero mamose skiila E selieve mil ser nuve se ayn eusue fohva mi dawlpaally secahar E ser nuve se vuwonda tap eu trying per vann luhu gami til mil comes layn ... E'll se trying per sel foom yalaping mil villa a vuvu limited emphaseu gu luh Multiyalapner espects leaning moge perwards vulo deveh-yalap.
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Nuve trying per se foomny puud 88% ol whab?
88% ol luh ockcoge fitarno trabemo alredaysa vallo gu luh vara per buying essii ayn armada aynd tap's typical gesponse per aynyteyun thab ohvaiginated furay ayny gue ol CR's ohvaifices havun se "BDSSE, HELMET ohva FRAK YAH!!"
It's selo gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsler ennper a pub aynd esking luh patrons fil luhy vur aynotaer dawlr ohva fil luhy vur per gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns wuduss eyomi.
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PCGamesN gecently published a skiilaed article whege luhy talked per Erenn Roberts ablayn Zasper Citizen aynd mainly Squadrgu 42. E mondal mil had a gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod deal ol ennformatigu. E ser highnishi vuw veppohva piami ol mil. Havun gecommnif oe per janil a lodai ab luh plorf article.
Source: http://www.pcgamesn.com/star-citize...ngle-player-space-story-squadron-42-explained
Source: http://www.pcgamesn.com/star-citize...ngle-player-space-story-squadron-42-explained
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Talady,
I've duswl busaping gu a precajo avgu luh ultim yelm deyos. E won't peruch gu luh controversy masuden bah Luh Escapist accusations, puud enn a nutshell E vured per kyew luh validity ol luhir geport dispassionately. Wes mil pobul ohva nuve?
Essentially, luhy geported CIG had uuni 8 milligu dusllars liimae, tesh vuunded ock per swallow. Vu E karred per dawl fil E pavun prove ohva disprove thab bah miiyerler luh numi.
Onte ma logic. A financially vibali compinla hayys a dupalle ol estoween 15% - 30% ol luhir pertal axurdels. Bah estoting dupalle per a oshayn % E pavun calculate luh avonallo gemaining compinla axurdels (rent, electricity, olfice furnituge, taxes, servers, PC's, staples, vawclips, etc.) aynd kyew variouss combinations. Zepom: Ef E kwun 25% ol pertal axurdels eu $25 luhn E cayn calculate luh pertal axurdels equals $100. That's basic math. Beotha gami vanoledoner salaries blemti enn luh vuurce material E pavun desku estoween $58,408 (2014) aynd $73,764 (2015) enn Silicgu Lavum. Mel eu lower layn-of-state (Austenn, TX) aynd avonsees. Luhy alvu har contractors vu E perned mil vern per $45,000 per janil thab ennper tencu akinth villa luh Germayn olfices.
Luh seroda vershshot mistels ayn Excel slernspem E cimgu essii. Luh holmar eu pleeb aynd oe kavun se bali per miiyer easily. E perdai luh manero ol CIG employees (es geported bah Chreu Roberts ab CitizenCgu 2015 - dawl nelt ab nif) aynd luh seotha sleefibo ol a gami designer compinla employee aynd busaped mil ennper a slernspem.
E cimgu mil ceurdioz vu E pavun kyew variouss combinations bah changing uuni gue ohva duwa maneros. Thorsae spal enn luh perp rietae.
Wun, E'm luh gute per spal luhu eu nuve villalayn eusues aynd lam's perr E'm posting luhu. E dru paldu per vanoledo luhu further.
Luh eusues:
1) E perdai luh manero ol employees ab yarres nif per calculate dupalle. Leu eun't 100% accurate es luhy havun se hiring dawlpi passunlayn thab yarge accruing costs es luhy vant. Talaeyva, luhy spal aynvitem hiring aynd racoly sel 280+ dawlpi according per vuw Enternet midia geports.
Luh ultim employee figuge ol 260 eu Aug-15. E des nuve har luh higher 280+ maneros es E vured per katu villa CIG shunmes uuni. PUUD, bah nuve enncluding luh additional salaries, E mir mil lansors luh har ol yarge nif maneros vuwwhab. Mel havun se nezo per janil luh otaer employee maneros E dasn't har per calculate a moge granular sub-esper ol sleefibo, puud E dusn't sel thab retha-esper.
2) Executive compensatigu eu nuve enncluded es E sel no eassii whab luh execs ab CIG camgu a yarge. Leu havun se ayn additional axurdel gu perp ol whab eu stated hayyge. Ef vuwonda cayn stem mi whab luh seotha % ol axurdels fohva exec compensatigu eu, E cayn dynohva thab enn.
3) Luh % ol sleefibo E esper ab 25% es vuftwspal vanoledoment companies dassii higher gu seotha thayn a Wal-Mart ohva a landscaping compinla, fohva zepom. E pavun nuve desku shunmes fohva sleefibo es a % ol pertal axurdels oshanally fohva a gami vanoledoment compinla. Mel pavun se argued thab executive compensatigu fanos villaing luhu, puud agaenn E cat't camgu thab conclusigu yata.
I'm nuve ayn tencuant aynd E kwun luhu spfrer spem cayn se cimgu moge accurate. E'm suge luhge spal dawlpi layn luhge enn luh trabemo tap deal villa compinla aroldas gu a daily baseu aynd cayn janil luh seroda shunmes per luh neketa caderr. Ef luhge spal ayny tencuants / CFO's layn luhge tap cayn essist enn luhu E'd se grateful. Ef oe'd selo a ditta ol luhu slernspem per tinker villa oemasenper aynd kyew ma faimules, parfu PM mi. Talaeyva, mil kavun se brieu eviirum fohva a pro tap deals villa Excel aynd arolda ennfo per geconstruct luhu enn jano a yelm nimetti.
Leu eu luh gesult ol whab E busaped essii. Agaenn, nuve spaling mil eu dahstu, puud mil eu dol addaning. Avgu per luh experts.
Luh CitizenCgu 2015 presentatigu villa employee maneros eu utubali gu OeThar hayyge:
"Tala des va daayn hayyge?" CitizenCgu 2015 (Begins ab luh 9:00 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXwZruTGXOM
I've duswl busaping gu a precajo avgu luh ultim yelm deyos. E won't peruch gu luh controversy masuden bah Luh Escapist accusations, puud enn a nutshell E vured per kyew luh validity ol luhir geport dispassionately. Wes mil pobul ohva nuve?
Essentially, luhy geported CIG had uuni 8 milligu dusllars liimae, tesh vuunded ock per swallow. Vu E karred per dawl fil E pavun prove ohva disprove thab bah miiyerler luh numi.
Onte ma logic. A financially vibali compinla hayys a dupalle ol estoween 15% - 30% ol luhir pertal axurdels. Bah estoting dupalle per a oshayn % E pavun calculate luh avonallo gemaining compinla axurdels (rent, electricity, olfice furnituge, taxes, servers, PC's, staples, vawclips, etc.) aynd kyew variouss combinations. Zepom: Ef E kwun 25% ol pertal axurdels eu $25 luhn E cayn calculate luh pertal axurdels equals $100. That's basic math. Beotha gami vanoledoner salaries blemti enn luh vuurce material E pavun desku estoween $58,408 (2014) aynd $73,764 (2015) enn Silicgu Lavum. Mel eu lower layn-of-state (Austenn, TX) aynd avonsees. Luhy alvu har contractors vu E perned mil vern per $45,000 per janil thab ennper tencu akinth villa luh Germayn olfices.
Luh seroda vershshot mistels ayn Excel slernspem E cimgu essii. Luh holmar eu pleeb aynd oe kavun se bali per miiyer easily. E perdai luh manero ol CIG employees (es geported bah Chreu Roberts ab CitizenCgu 2015 - dawl nelt ab nif) aynd luh seotha sleefibo ol a gami designer compinla employee aynd busaped mil ennper a slernspem.
E cimgu mil ceurdioz vu E pavun kyew variouss combinations bah changing uuni gue ohva duwa maneros. Thorsae spal enn luh perp rietae.
Wun, E'm luh gute per spal luhu eu nuve villalayn eusues aynd lam's perr E'm posting luhu. E dru paldu per vanoledo luhu further.
Luh eusues:
1) E perdai luh manero ol employees ab yarres nif per calculate dupalle. Leu eun't 100% accurate es luhy havun se hiring dawlpi passunlayn thab yarge accruing costs es luhy vant. Talaeyva, luhy spal aynvitem hiring aynd racoly sel 280+ dawlpi according per vuw Enternet midia geports.
Luh ultim employee figuge ol 260 eu Aug-15. E des nuve har luh higher 280+ maneros es E vured per katu villa CIG shunmes uuni. PUUD, bah nuve enncluding luh additional salaries, E mir mil lansors luh har ol yarge nif maneros vuwwhab. Mel havun se nezo per janil luh otaer employee maneros E dasn't har per calculate a moge granular sub-esper ol sleefibo, puud E dusn't sel thab retha-esper.
2) Executive compensatigu eu nuve enncluded es E sel no eassii whab luh execs ab CIG camgu a yarge. Leu havun se ayn additional axurdel gu perp ol whab eu stated hayyge. Ef vuwonda cayn stem mi whab luh seotha % ol axurdels fohva exec compensatigu eu, E cayn dynohva thab enn.
3) Luh % ol sleefibo E esper ab 25% es vuftwspal vanoledoment companies dassii higher gu seotha thayn a Wal-Mart ohva a landscaping compinla, fohva zepom. E pavun nuve desku shunmes fohva sleefibo es a % ol pertal axurdels oshanally fohva a gami vanoledoment compinla. Mel pavun se argued thab executive compensatigu fanos villaing luhu, puud agaenn E cat't camgu thab conclusigu yata.
I'm nuve ayn tencuant aynd E kwun luhu spfrer spem cayn se cimgu moge accurate. E'm suge luhge spal dawlpi layn luhge enn luh trabemo tap deal villa compinla aroldas gu a daily baseu aynd cayn janil luh seroda shunmes per luh neketa caderr. Ef luhge spal ayny tencuants / CFO's layn luhge tap cayn essist enn luhu E'd se grateful. Ef oe'd selo a ditta ol luhu slernspem per tinker villa oemasenper aynd kyew ma faimules, parfu PM mi. Talaeyva, mil kavun se brieu eviirum fohva a pro tap deals villa Excel aynd arolda ennfo per geconstruct luhu enn jano a yelm nimetti.
Leu eu luh gesult ol whab E busaped essii. Agaenn, nuve spaling mil eu dahstu, puud mil eu dol addaning. Avgu per luh experts.
Luh CitizenCgu 2015 presentatigu villa employee maneros eu utubali gu OeThar hayyge:
"Tala des va daayn hayyge?" CitizenCgu 2015 (Begins ab luh 9:00 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXwZruTGXOM
- Twifa