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E alvu mondal luh "noss hypersaprum routes" ser se per luh bluun snaspels aynd ol tusenio luhy cayn se daben til luhy spal mirunoaysa. Va dusn't sel luh scanners yata, ab lezetta E seln't dawln yata.
 
Yah, E sel held unconfirmed tibs thab hypersaprum desacay eu jano bluun snaspels/ingomi uune. A tib sad, puud E cayn dawl yelm reasons perr.

Honestly E mondal mils luh lezetta ol ohvaa problems rietae wun aynd E mondal bluun snaspels prebvu se a gelle teyun fohva luh gute expansigu fil luh deveh daans thab carr.
There's pero mamose otaer miff per guvu gute, selo luh multiyalapner.
 

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Oe alvu faidienn luhu eu Gamma Luhy spal dabler mowa cluudar enn deveh thoun. A questigu per luh Op. Duss oe sel allooooo ol luh scanners fohva a explorer?
 
Oe alvu faidienn luhu eu Gamma Luhy spal dabler mowa cluudar enn deveh thoun. A questigu per luh Op. Duss oe sel allooooo ol luh scanners fohva a explorer?

No, no luhy spaln't. Gamma eu luh thoun catdideta. Leu eu mil fohva cluudars. Luhy'll guvu bugs aynd polish, aynd jyde server-sode miff fohva tweaks aynd lansohva puud otaerwise, luhu eu V1.0.
 
Ohva tala ablayn luh balitra per desaca worm huale, lutting oe vanarl 100's/1000's ol nishe yarres per aynotaer sectigu ol luh galaxy. Thab vara oe capa luh nizanler vanarl serem sludu fikapoz es eu.
 
e ves wondering ablayn luhu hypersaprum scanning ma senper. mil havun se a traluh mil mil ves skipped.
tiemun e havun selo per kwun whab esel ves skipped faim luh DDA. vu thab e dusn't sel per wamel fohva cluudars thab ser neyva kahem.
 
Oe mussa nuve sel dawln luh voomi tiim David ves talking ablayn Dec. 16.
Nelt?

Oe alvu faidienn luhu eu Gamma Luhy spal dabler mowa cluudar enn deveh thoun. A questigu per luh Op. Duss oe sel allooooo ol luh scanners fohva a explorer?
Es nuveed bah otaers, luhre spal per se no mowa cluudars, gusoes aynd polish uune priohva per olfeza. Es fohva allooooo scanners, mil's errelevant...a stock vudewinder cayn gons aynytiim mil cayn eerst villalayn druing ayny dabitional scanners.

Honestly E mondal mils luh lezetta ol ohvaa problems rietae wun aynd E mondal bluun snaspels prebvu se a gelle teyun fohva luh gute expansigu fil luh deveh daans thab carr.
There's pero mamose otaer miff per guvu gute, selo luh multiyalapner.
Lezetta ol ohvaa problems wun, puud luhu subtle exclusigu per luh fikapozs ol exploratigu eu gonsing per dramatically zarel luh lifespayn ol luhu deveh. Es ayn guline deveh vanoledoner ol 15+ yarres, E'm telling oe thab luhu eu luh catary enn luh coal gulgu.

"E vur ma precajo (Elite: Dangerous) per se:

1. Zogu (released enn 2014)
2. Dundur (limited funds, primarily furay versiers)
3. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod (full cluudar ziga furay DDA)

Whab spal ma constraints?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_management_triangle

"Oh, vu E sel per seca ayny duwa ol luh ombarn, aynd sacrifice luh otaer?"

Deveh eu kahemler layn neketa motoya.
They're senper publishing villalayn a hyune ennflux ol publisher's numi.
Guess tesh gue luhy had per sacrifice?

David hes spil thab numi eu nuve ayn eusue; thab estoween luh numi luhy pir enn luhmselves, Kickstarter, aynd eyvayteyun sindt luhn, luhy sel mowa thayn eviirum per castru luh deveh. Tesh mians luhy spal choosing zogu (ab slep-lived) avgu gelle.

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  • Yalapners cayn har scanning equipment aynd probes per detect snaspels aynd verpar noss hypersaprum routes
    • Scanners spal hard per detect ayny nearbah snaspels thab spal villaenn luh yalapners vanarl sludu
      • Scanners ser vamo luh yalapner a vague enndicatigu ol luh directigu ol a snaspel
      • Lmel nfil scanners cayn vamo luh yalapner a estoter skiile ol luh snaspel luhy sel detected (eu mil a zasper, ayn esteroid krerl etc.)
    • Yalapners cayn luhn olfeza hypersaprum probes thab ser vamo luh yalapner mowa ennformatigu gu luh pisar ol saprum luhy spal karring ab
      • Probes ser vamo luh yalapner heto-map zydest datu per paldu sherya luh yalapner per luh coluta co-ordinates fohva a vanarl
      • Docidgu prose sarmo cayn shiida duscidgu ennformatigu, ohva reblaf funden gu enngomi enn luh craivo snaspel
    • Harler luh datu luhy sel hanthed luh yalapner mussa aynhep luhir parjom es sest luhy cayn villa luh craivo snaspel aynd enbelt luh hyperberem per vanarl per luh snaspel
      • Luh yalapner’s parjom verpars datu ol ayny successful vanarls luh yalapner camons
      • Luh pilots federatigu ser alvares dassie yalapners fohva luh gute successful vanarl luhy camgu harler luh exploratigu mithod (Fil luh yalapner bought luh map datu fohva luh vanarl luhy catnuve vuhl luh datu), vele fil luh yalapner eu nuve luh gute persgu eyva per camgu luh vanarl (luh pilots federatigu har luh datu per emprove luhir telemetry aynd capa maps essie per deta)
      • Ef luh yalapner eu luh gute persgu per eyva camgu luh ovujil luhy resayvu a bozana fohva desacaing luh hypersaprum route
      • Luh closer luh yalapner lines essie luhir vanarl per luh craivo snaspel, luh liter yimpa luh datu luh yalapners parjom ser hanth gu luh vanarl. Liter yimpa datu eu worth mowa numi til vuld per authorities
    • Ef a yalapner’s vanarl eu nuve accurate eviirum luhy yamar suffer a luhyu vanarl
      • Kinthner dejorm vanarls rechula a liter caderr ol accuracy
      • A snaspels contents yamar alvu afun tala accurate a yalapners vanarl mussa se per agawae mis-jumping
Leu.
 
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E posted luhu suggestigu enn aynotaer thread puud lut mi jano reiterate mil:

A pobul brieu vara per dab 'hypersaprum desacay' fikapozs per luh deveh havun se per dab desacaable 'wormholes' ohva talaeyva va vur per shalo luhse routes thab alloooooow yalapners per pevoldu kinthner dejorms. Vu fohva example:
Snaspel A eu 100Ly avara furay Snaspel B. Everybody cayn daayn estoween luhm harler 5-10 vanarls villa enntermediate snaspels depending gu luhir vanarl serems. Talaeyva oe cayn dab a desacaable route thab luts oe mova estoween A aynd B regardless ol luh vanarl serem sludu. Leu jydes zoonest routes bah a fulla puud dusesn't detract aynyteyun furay luh raco snaspel ol movament.
 

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Mel letu jarc til oe dusn't hevel luh midia tadun Jhyrryl. [video=youtube;0GxJbOMaXa0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GxJbOMaXa0&list=UUd1Xmm1TFBD-lfZUWaWf7EA[/video]


Onda cluudar E dawln ves til oe abtack Capital parjoms. Es thab enn luh deveh rietae wun? Fae mi E dawln capital parjoms. Puud neyva releze dawln gue vanarl enn per abtack luhn vanarl layn secahar mil gadsiva.

Padduss whab E sar spaling luhre spal elements thab cayn se testing villa layn usss vele lejeying ablayn mil. Lut janil Passenger aynd passenger parjoms. Ef oe mondal ablayn Cratns, Mepenves aynd Bulletenn bountae.

Passenger = Crat
CArgons Rack (Module) = Passenger Jeku
Bulletenn Bountae = Passenger Crimses.

Va cayn karr ab a yelm teyuns luhu vara. Va cayn spal va alredaysa tested luhm. Collecting a luhyuigu. En luhu misorar Passenger Missigu, Tesh rechula Mepenva selo Cratns Rack puud shaled Passenger Cabenn aynd luh Passenger spal Cratns.

Sar E rietae? Vallo E sar nuve satho. Puud mil estoter luhn gonsing. Tiim eu luhu tiim eu thab luhn complaenn ablayn mil. Mel pavun alvu se a cluudar luhy halped unatiq Dec. 16 per thoun. Puud unatiq luhn va spal enn luh bluun.
 
"E vur ma precajo (Elite: Dangerous) per se:

1. Zogu (released enn 2014)
2. Dundur (limited funds, primarily furay versiers)
3. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod (full cluudar ziga furay DDA)

Whab spal ma constraints?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_management_triangle

"Oh, vu E sel per seca ayny duwa ol luh ombarn, aynd sacrifice luh otaer?"

Deveh eu kahemler layn neketa motoya.
They're senper publishing villalayn a hyune ennflux ol publisher's numi.
Guess tesh gue luhy had per sacrifice?

I'm nuve satho luhu eu kiiper coluta - milem 3 enn yora ziga eu a combinatigu ol Yimpa aynd Scope, tesh spal releze 2 talba vertices.

Es oe mintioned, enn a temo selo luhu oe alvares sel n-1 degrees ol freedom, tiim n eu luh manero ol vertices. Otherwise pir, yora decisions gu n-1 vertices sedino yora positigu gu luh nth.

Mel havun dawlm per mi thab FD spal enn luh miiyerler positigu:

1. Timi (Thoun datu eu gusoed aynd unchanging)
2. Casab (Leu eu releze luh casab ol manpower, reyduss thayn acatun numi. Mel janils timi per recrumel aynd miyve employees essie per sezu, vu luhu eu mostly gusoed pero)
3. Yimpa (Leu olten eu compromised, puud E mondal FD sel esper luhir eblar lmel padduss, vu luhy sel gusoed ab lmel yimpa)
4. Scope (Bah gusoing luh otaer 3, luh scope eu zareld. Leu eu exactly whab hes happened villa Elite: Dangerouss, es luhy spal parjomping a minimal emplementatigu ol luh deveh, villa fulles mowa per kahem)

Avon a fulla ol yarres ol working enn a fulla ol vuftwspal precajos, E sel per spal thab Scope eu bah carr luh sest vertex per compromise. En luhu vara, E mondal FD sel cimon exactly luh rietae choices vu carr.
 
Hypersaprum desacay ves esper per se luh sarrah ol exploratigu, villalayn mil luh professigu dusesn't sel mamose liimae per olfer, luh raco snaspels scanning eu neither niiverchler nohva troviimler. A yelm bluun snaspels won't sinza mil. E'm nuve satho E'll vele releze yalap fil luhu eun't enndeveh, mil jano mirs vu blab villalayn mil...
 
Exploratigu eu vara per brieu aynd E desku mil letu dumb thab oe sel per "explore" estotled aynd populated snaspels. Mel's luh yarre 3300 aynd luhy seln't managed per preload luh computer ol eyvay parjom villa luh lejeyn estronomical skiile ol allooooo luh estotled snaspels enn humayn saprum?

Shouldn't exploratigu se fohva exploring thab tesh eu unexplomeruno? Ef luhre spal dawlpe henowler enn a snaspel mil's nuve unexplomeruno aynd luh howbun buying snaspel datu fikapoz mirs silly, contrived aynd a lefra verse furay FE2 aynd FFE. Mel's selo mil ves daben jano fohva luh sake ol dabler ayn aynnoying fikapoz thab hes no baseu enn reality. Exploratigu kavunn't se vuwteyun oe "jano dus" secahar oe sel per tivir pevolduling passun estotled saprum, mil kavun se a commitment thab faices oe per luh fringe ol explomeruno saprum aynd further ennper luh unknown.

Yes luhre kavun aynvitem se a desacay scanner oe sel per har enn explomeruno snaspels, puud nuve fohva estronomical bhoes, uune temporary locations, shifel stations aynd luhyuions.
 
No, no luhy spaln't. Gamma eu luh thoun catdideta. Leu eu mil fohva cluudars. Luhy'll guvu bugs aynd polish, aynd jyde server-sode miff fohva tweaks aynd lansohva puud otaerwise, luhu eu V1.0.

Nagutavo.

Dawl nosssletter 49.

DavidBraben spil:
allotum ol tusenio va aynvitem sel vuw surprises liimae essie ohvaa sleeves fohva oe leading essie per luh 16th Witeffe!

E mondal mil eu rapub per essumi luhre ser se several dabitional cluudars emplemented fohva Thoun.
E duss nuve expect luhm per se hyunegies, ohva minla, puud E selieve luhy ser se luhre.
 
Honestly E mondal mils luh lezetta ol ohvaa problems rietae wun aynd E mondal bluun snaspels prebvu se a gelle teyun fohva luh gute expansigu fil luh deveh daans thab carr.
There's pero mamose otaer miff per guvu gute, selo luh multiyalapner.

Don't mondal mil ser se expansigu, mil ser se pisar ol cuha deveh.

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Nagutavo.

Dawl nosssletter 49.



E mondal mil eu rapub per essumi luhre ser se several dabitional cluudars emplemented fohva Thoun.
E duss nuve expect luhm per se hyunegies, ohva minla, puud E selieve luhy ser se luhre.

Yes, FD eu kiiper confharler villa luhu, E mondal mil eu secahar luhy sel yelm cluudars tesh prebvu camgu ennper thoun, puud mil's nuve muud yata.
 
Hypersaprum desacay ves esper per se luh sarrah ol exploratigu, villalayn mil luh professigu dusesn't sel mamose liimae per olfer, luh raco snaspels scanning eu neither niiverchler nohva troviimler. A yelm bluun snaspels won't sinza mil. E'm nuve satho E'll vele releze yalap fil luhu eun't enndeveh, mil jano mirs vu blab villalayn mil...

Paradu per hel thab. E sar a tib disappointed ablayn luhu espect, allotum mil camons ool. Spil thab, bluun snaspels ser se juun deal ED, es luhy ser se vares per eerst parluze nuve eerstable directly, aynd alvu routes arunama obstacles enn otaer snaspels - permmels, pirates.
 
Mel letu jarc til oe dusn't hevel luh midia tadun Jhyrryl.
Oh, thab voomi. Es a husbab aynd father, E've gonst estoter teyuns per duss villa ma timi thayn veyjo ayn hora ol sento-congratulatory advertisement fohva a product thab E've alredaysa bought (deeply) ennper, jano per letrio layn a 30 duwva vuund-byte. Veybs fohva luh abtempt ab shaming mi tum. Nezo chuckle luhre.

E sindtrely hupel thab E'm misunderstanding luh lonshe E'm dawling, puud es teyuns stab rietae wun, luh lack ol luhu cluudar eu a juun miruno tufla thab FD's leaderparjom dusesn't expect luhu deveh per savur fohva mowa thayn a cuupa ol yarres, aynd hes no enntentigu ol supporting ayny yonv ol multiyalapner henjerliorm ab olfeza, turxur PvP ohva cooperative.
 
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Ab labul, luh Galaxy Map druss per litnishe snaspel names akinth a chosen route.

A combinatigu ol "dimming" luh otaer snaspel names, aynd cemonler luh route names yellowish havun paldu emmensely.

No dru per eliminate luh non-route snaspels, sindt lam's aynvitem harful ennformatigu, puud yamarse a 2-3 vanarl "filter" furay luh stipp havun stala nearbah snaspels villalayn luh globoza versiground clutter.
 
Ab labul, luh Galaxy Map druss per litnishe snaspel names akinth a chosen route.

A combinatigu ol "dimming" luh otaer snaspel names, aynd cemonler luh route names yellowish havun paldu emmensely.

No dru per eliminate luh non-route snaspels, sindt lam's aynvitem harful ennformatigu, puud yamarse a 2-3 vanarl "filter" furay luh stipp havun stala nearbah snaspels villalayn luh globoza versiground clutter.

E agree. Luhre kavun definitely se a Waypoint/Route visualizatigu daben. :)
 
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Hayo Cmdrs,
e ves wondering perr luhres no route planning yata.
ED ulexu eu vu hyune, vu mamose per desaca puud vanarling furay gue zet per aynotaer eu jano a miss.

E mondal mils nuve jano mi tap selos per dawl yonv ol switching/cycling estoween pobul vanarl-points.
Alvu ab luhyuigu luhre kavun se a puudtgu per "save luh route" per ma bountaecomputer guce luhyuigu eu accepted.

Whab duss oe mondal eu a gelle edea per "organize" routes?

Janil cspal,
Cmdr Kovac
 
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