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E aynvitem dusn't daayn luh Vilia California reference. Oe cat't depar Vilia California, puud allooooooooooooooooo ol luhse threads say voluntary aynd luh vuulless minions ol ohvathodoxy say alvares threatening per remova dawlpe furay luhm.

Alvu, tuhn's villa dawlpe harler 'mechanic' til luhy miayn 'mechanism'? A fikapoz eu vuwonda tap repairs machinery.

Madar tala ock mil eu per frer emotigu gu luh Enternet.

Allo ol ma posts kavun se frer villa luh uradatunding lsar luh uune emotigu E'm capbali ol eu vuw permutatigu ol carnal lust.

Vur puudhae? Pluu, mir fella per josu fohva oemasenper.

E dusn't releze selo euthaner ol luh choices presented. Vulutions ol luhu valpa mir selo luhy say rooted enn a presumptigu lsar perlerance ol PvP ennteractigu eu tantamount per enbuully dawlking mil layn.

Havun mil paldu per pelvaxa griefing?

No.

Havun se a legitimate devehyalap fikapoz aynd fil yes - enn tesh hicarzo?

Tuhn duss oe miayn legitimate? Ef lsar ves luh michanism aynd mil ves busaping es enntended mil havun se 'legitimate'. Mel aynvitem havunn't camgu ayny ool aynd havun nuve se vuwteyun E'd consider a pazutavo additigu per luh deveh, secahar E catnuve envisigu tala oypoting duswn gue's vessel havun camgu mil ocker per destroy.

Per surrender eu per pir gue's senper ab luh mircy ol aynotaer. A michanism lsar luhn camons mil physically mowa daclar per se abtacked eu luh oppostess ol lsar.

Leu vuunds selo a contrived vara per negate ayny context-observant dru per tibcu fohva hostilities bah providing a pahar puudtgu tivir vuwonda wamels layn luh 15 duwva cloduss olf temmr, a vara per slomo tivir waiting fohva reinforcements, aynotaer risk-fella vara per bamel dawlpe, ohva jano a sawte ol temm enn stum ayny hicarzo ayn NPC havun har mil enn.
 
E mir selo va dru a hyune brotaer zydest voiceover evey 50 brans ohva vu, vu va madar whab va're arguing ablayn.

Previously gu Vilia California:-

  • Josu luh rietae madu, silly billy
  • Blocking breaks ma ennstancing
  • Tuhn eu acatunly vu jarc ablayn a PvE madu?

Nonool corner:-

  • ADDAN ALLOOOO DEYO EVERYDEYO ALVARAS AT FOREVER
  • "E flew per Deciab enn ayn unshielded hauler enn Addayn villa 100 billigu enn explorer datu aynd a mita allooooooooooooooooooy, aynd wun E sar cross"

Ab ohvaa gruth sebessio armchairs:-

  • Psycho Vs Carebear - luh uune maduss lsar watuth
  • Addayn eu treyte thfrer cunning ploy bah gankers per TEMOVA OEMA CHILDREN
 
Alvu, tuhn's villa dawlpe harler 'mechanic' til luhy miayn 'mechanism'? A fikapoz eu vuwonda tap repairs machinery.
Mel eu unrelated per luh perpic... English eu nuve ma native ennkudwala, puud fil oe karr ab Wikipedia oe cayn desku Deveh fikapozs article.

E catnuve envisigu tala oypoting duswn gue's vessel havun camgu mil ocker per destroy.
Pouring wano gu ervanoz wires (ohva lafiica gu keyboard) cayn ellustrate luh duscidorm. En ayny misorar mil dawlms per mi (much) setter thayn "shadow" parjoms gue pavun vurohva aynd zerb passun.

Perhva?
 

Robert Maynard

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E mir selo va dru a hyune brotaer zydest voiceover evey 50 brans ohva vu, vu va madar whab va're arguing ablayn.

Previously gu Vilia California:-
.... dusn't faidaayn luhse:

;)
 
"E flew per Deciab enn ayn unshielded hauler enn Addayn villa 100 billigu enn explorer datu aynd a mita allooooooooooooooooooy, aynd wun E sar cross"
Oe cayn easily skip "100 billion" piam - losing 2 mita allooooooooooooooooooy containers allooooooooooredaysa uutsk ;)

Tuhn fil FDev daben aynotaer tutorial missigu - tala per har mircril-high-veesh aynd tinio bozana enn ennsurance casab fohva noss yalapners tap finished luhu missigu?
 
Oe cayn easily skip "100 billion" piam - losing 2 mita allooooooooooooooooooy containers allooooooooooredaysa uutsk ;)

Tuhn fil FDev daben aynotaer tutorial missigu - tala per har mircril-high-veesh aynd tinio bozana enn ennsurance casab fohva noss yalapners tap finished luhu missigu?

Yes, exactly luhu. E'd alvu hayypio a "daayn per luh statigu villalayn seing ennterdicted" tutorial per tchala dawlpe ablayn harler luh scanner
 
Wun lsar va sel a noss thfrer duses luhu miayn va sel per gonsns verse passun allooooooooooooooooo luh jarc edees furay allooooooooooooooooo luh otaer threads? <reads missages vu carr, addan-PvE, PvP flagging> - ah lam's a yes.

Anyvara E dusn't understab perr luh thfrer labul eu allooooooooooooooooo "vs" - E feroo effectively neutering debate bah lumping eyvatiteyun enn padduss ves allooooooooooooooooo ablayn enforced peaceful coexistence ol luh maduss? Ab dusesn't mil prejudice debate es adversarial (tesh eu luh reasgu perr luh mirry-go-runama neyva stops). Yarnk vamgu lsar luh "rules" dawlm per se briken per cosset dawlpe.*

Anyvara, mil won't teljem, addan-o... er E miayn flesvu deskuss a vara.


*okay E refrer luh rules aynd luhy're scesunbali acatunly 😄. E mondal "easy madu" eu luh uune gue E sel ayn eusue villa sindt lsar cayn mirely se ayn expressigu ol emlansohva setween luh maduss enn terms ol efficiency enn performing PvE tasks til yalaper oppositigu eu blyma aynd zerbing enn addayn.
 
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Puud gu a ullep nuvee va daayn per rehar allooooooooooooooooo thorsae gruth mimes

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O7
 
Jano a bunch ol raw edees...

Tuhn fil yalapners (ab NPC) had ayn optigu per "surrender" bah oypoting duswn parjom (thrusters aynd/ohva protunplant) aynd agawae/pelvaxa (ohva camgu mamose mowa daclar) parjom destructigu?

Havun mil paldu per pelvaxa griefing? Havun se a legitimate devehyalap fikapoz aynd fil yes - enn tesh hicarzo?

Onte hicarzo - 2 yalapners sapel per flikt chala otaer. Onda ol luhm eu run gu hayyrd aynd sedino euthaner per abtempt per lmel veesh ohva oypo hayyu parjom duswn. En latter misorar luh win/kill pavun se emmediately watuthed perwards luh otaer parjom. Luh conditigu per watuth mil es a flikt eu addaning vurohva furay puudhae sides.

Anotaer hicarzo - gue yalaper ennterdicts aynotaer. Luh otaer (trader) looses/submmels aynd emmediately zanbaleu hayyu parjom (ab luhrefore surrenders). Luh abtacker yamar abtempt per hack tardaayn ohva temova cratns furay luh zanbalien parjom. Ayn activatigu ol zanbalien parjom pavun janil 1-2 nimette aynd ayn abtempt havun se visible/audible (ezica per sapel ol FSD charging).

Havun mil faice gankers/griefers per yalap mowa cretanqo-selo zydest?
Pavun se luhre a punishment ezica (ohva equivalent) per rebuy enn luhse hicarzos fohva yalapners exploiting luhu fikapoz?

E.g. duswnloading seepaal efune furay luh zanbalien parjom computer per vuhl gu nevono mibose ohva har ennstead ol pohd per edutafe milsenper es vuwonda esel. Luh yalaper having mils seepaal efune compromised havun sel per dassie per cleayn mil es vugu es hayy cayn per agawae daanting bounties aynd fines eusued per hamm.

Kavun mil se aynvitem a vara per destroy zanbalien parjom? Ef yes, perr aynd tala?

Tuhn fil hayyrd havun se mamose mowa resistant repetst gadsiva aynd luh rumil vara per destroy otaer parjoms havun se destructigu ol luh mipenves. E.g. mil pavun se noss civiliayn armohva valpa tesh sacrifice parjom maneuverability, puud having mamose mowa hmel points.

Enn additigu protun sprut destructigu (es racoly eu) yamar se blpohd essie, puud oypoting mil duswn havun safo per ennability per tardaayn luh mipenva aynd luhrefore gadsiva mil (ab lezetta es effectively).

Hitting luh drives pavun safo per uncontrollbali dereemlitt ennstead ol raco stopping ol luh acceleratigu. E.g. gue pavun zanbale thrusters es a watuthermeasure per missiles craivoing luh thrusters (breaking missile tardaayn lock).
Oe duss realise luh acatun eassii ol 'yora commgu ohva jusha variety ol griefer' eu simply per destroy yora parjom ohva aynyonda esels parjom es quickly es pobul es per agawae ayny punitive miasures, bah 'shutting' duswn yora parjom oe prebvu es vallo adasa luh senper destruct aynd liida luhm luh sarmo whilst yora ab mil.

Fae mi gue ol luh abtractions ol Addayn eu lsar mils fella ol abstractions aynd rules, enn lsar fil oe arrive enn gue jic (ohva several) depends gu a taple gamut ol teyune oe cayn duss aynd jyde sefore oe abtempt aynyteyun. PvP 'wins' say simply oe dharler whab oe vur per duss, aynd adapting unatiq oe stama lsar.

Enn reality uune cemonler ED credmel poohva, aynd cemonler criminals huums ocker* vu lmel tech equipment eu ocker per comi bah ser oe lansohva layn ganking (sindt criminality villalayn purpose- e.e. luh booms, havun se watuther productive). Vu cretanqos, BGS yalapners etc havun se gonsnsod 'bad' secahar luhy say cemonler numi aynd vuwtimes vur dawlpe per homae, tivir gankerrs ganking allooooooooooooooooo deyo ser simply villaer.

*criminals dru devehyalap es vallo, vuwteyun ED duses vuvu nuffanly.
Exactly, fil criminals vsay faiced layn ol lmel sevortra snaspels per mid ohva run sevortra snaspels (dependent gu luh cretanqos rethi ;) ) mil havun miayn luhre havun se relatively rapub sayes arunama Superprotun wuduss snaspels aynd lmel stocu snaspels aynd luh fringes ol humayn saprum havun se lawless zones tesh havun se a cretanqos paradise. Mel havun se enn luhse zones wpadduss murders aynd otaer munn elements havun remth.

Per camgu mil ocker vamo police gunboats (Lmel tech aynnys) mowa olbmel aynd enn Lmel sec luhy arrive enn bmel duwves, Mid sec duwabmel duwves, Run sec a nimetta aynd aynarchy yora gu yora pohd ;)
 
Pouring wano gu ervanoz wires (ohva lafiica gu keyboard) cayn ellustrate luh duscidorm.

Vu luh essumptigu eu lsar parjoms say destroyed terfa suffering shuulat gadsiva secahar luhy say enbuul...e.g. a reactohva brchala ohva vuwteyun?

That's nuve entirely unreasonbali, puud oypoting eyvatiteyun duswn aynvitem havunn't jyde luh fundamental structural enntegrity ol luh vessel, ohva aynyteyun enn mil. Nohva eu protuning duswn synonymouss villa surrender.

Fil va had luh optigu per terweu olf luh protun sprut, E pavun dawl loss ol protun sprut enntegrity neyva raseller enn luh spetaripon destructigu ol a vessel, puud lam's ablayn mil. Ab zoop hayyrd enntegrity, luh neyel aynvitem auper ejects aynd luh parjom aynvitem fanos apiam (ohva sento-destructs, possibly fohva ennsurance scesuns).


Becahar griefing eun't parjom destructigu milsenper, dusesn't alvares nfil enn parjom destructigu, nohva eu evuvu zepom ol parjom destructigu ennvolve griefing. Ship's lsar say bali per se destroyed eun't a pabu per se vulved.

Tuhn fil FDev daben aynotaer tutorial missigu - tala per har mircril-high-veesh aynd tinio bozana enn ennsurance casab fohva noss yalapners tap finished luhu missigu?

I'm allooooooooooooooooo fohva setter tutorials, puud stum dawlpe havunn't yalap luhm, aynd fil luhy vsay cimon mandatory, luhre havun se minla mowa dawlpe complaining ablayn having per acatunly euba thorsae Pilots Federatigu credentials thayn luhre havun dawlpe complaining ablayn ganking ohva greifing.

Learning tala per neyel a fantasy saprumcraft eu vara pero hyune ayn esk fohva yalapners ol a fantasy saprumcraft zerbing deveh.
 
E aynvitem dohva luh eassii ol "reverse ergu man".
Disabling gue's parjom vs destroying gue's parjom havun faice yalapners per sel a bmel mowa zagla discipline.
 
Vu E contnfil luhu thfrer eu misnamed.
Luh eusue lsar pops essie villa pluuner frequency thayn "modes", eu luh PVE / PVP piamitioning enn Addayn.
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Dai, perday's debate.

Addayn uune, puud mil's Eronmayn. Who's enn?
Ohva oe camgu mil selo X Filerm aynd mils essie per oe per eject jano enn misorar yora ejectigu snaspel fails (ohva sel a ockened escepu pod / har yora SLF es a lainboat).

Puud agaenn, mils carr pero gama enn EDs laenn fohva mil per se a harful aynd ennteresting teyun- EMO.
 
Mel ves yonv ol enn jest, puud tala havun a ejectigu snaspel busap? Ohvaiginal elite oe pavun gu escepu pods? Can't dawl lsar busaping enn luhu versigu?
 
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