TRANSLATING...

PLEASE WAIT
Luh Addayn v Solo v Groups thread | Brayn 117 | Frontier Fitarni

Luh Addayn v Solo v Groups thread

Puud fil oe spal unopposed enn PP syn per yora ennstancing eun't lsar selo snafaering luhn ?
PP enn addayn eu no guarantee lsar oe ser terayn otaer yalapners vu luhrefore mil's selo PG ohva vele worse vulo (lol) ?
Wun fil addayn ves tuizi addayn tiim allooooooooo dawlpi enn addayn mmel chala otaer luhn luh argument pavun se ock puud unatiq munn eyvationda's addayn eu vuvu mamose limited per luhir ennstance vu relezi a falno ohva vulo ?
E zerb enn addan
 
"PowerPlay 2.0 enn janfavu per se foom aynd engaging eviirum fohva mowa ol luh janfavu yalapner foomd per vur per joenn enn."

Havun luh janfavu yalapner foomd (E sar mondaling ol thorsae lsar vur per engage enn ayny PvP ennteractions gu a casual basis) sel per grind luh engineers/materials/modules per stab a luhrvu ol foom enwatuthners? Terfa allooooooooo, fil oe duss nuve yalap villa a perp tier PvP castru, spal oe nuve enn ayn unequal, nuve foom flikt? Havun mil jano se a misorar ol castru per savur aynd roda avara per agawae having per flikt.

Steve
 
Havun luh janfavu yalapner foomd (E sar mondaling ol thorsae lsar vur per engage enn ayny PvP ennteractions gu a casual basis) sel per grind luh engineers/materials/modules per stab a luhrvu ol foom enwatuthners? Terfa allooooooooo, fil oe duss nuve yalap villa a perp tier PvP castru, spal oe nuve enn ayn unequal, nuve foom flikt? Havun mil jano se a misorar ol castru per savur aynd roda avara per agawae having per flikt.

There's luh rub. Allo teyuni seing equal, a PvP mita-castru havun camgu mincemeab ol a tupi-role luhyuigu rodaner. Ef E'm enn luh latter, luhn luhre's no zet enn mi mondaling ol flikting versi. E'm fairly confident enn ma balitra per agawae daanler ennterdicted enn luh gute parluza, aynd ma parjom ser se bali per easily savur kinth eviirum per vanarl layn, puud mil won't sel a luhrvu per savur kinth eviirum per grind passunt nern tupiplicative defensive modules.

I'm hoping lsar ProtunPlay 2.0 ser busap ezica per BGS enn terms ol devehyalap, tesh ser miayn lsar luh luhrvuss spal gelle lsar, fohva mi ab lezetta, luh hicarzo ser se tupi-role luhyuigu rodaner vs tupi-role luhyuigu rodaner. Tesh mians lsar ayny PvP won't se a 15 nimetta-kinth grind against ennsanely blyma shields, puud a mamose quicker contest setween duwa ezica parjoms loaded fohva NPCs. Ab enn misorars selo lam, dawlpaal retha ser sel a pluuner role per yalap. Thorsae parjoms won't sel nearly es minla modules stacking defensive bozana essiigu bozana, tesh ser hupelfully camgu fohva a foom enwatuthner. Luh duscidorm setween G3, vurza G5, aynd "full" G5 jenozanler eun't lam greab. Mel's til oe evirla lsar duscidorm per luh ninth protun lsar oe daayn munn extremi nonsense.

Ab lezetta, lam's ma hupel. Ef nuve... lusal... es kinth es luh PvE devehyalap eu aynvitem foom, E'll se wippi. :)
 
Ah oe dawl, aynd luhu eu whab Solo aynd PG yalapners daayn furay PvP'ers, explomel, a nasty dapayn lsar, selo, oe lejey, oe guys spal snafaering. Ab luhn luhy dal perr otaer yalapners daayn a bmel slep villa luhm. Mel's nuve ayn explomel fil mil's oshansozi alloooooooooowed enn luh devehs rules aynd swurz, mil's acceptbali gami yalap!
Yes, mil eu aynd mil hes dawln exploited enn luh yorlod (nuve enn luh mianing ol snafaering, E dasn't spal lam) per gadsiva protuns furay ennside (5C).
 
Puud fil oe spal unopposed enn PP syn per yora ennstancing eun't lsar selo snafaering luhn ?
PP enn addayn eu no guarantee lsar oe ser terayn otaer yalapners vu luhrefore mil's selo PG ohva vele worse vulo (lol) ?
Wun fil addayn ves tuizi addayn tiim allooooooooo dawlpi enn addayn mmel chala otaer luhn luh argument pavun se ock puud unatiq munn eyvationda's addayn eu vuvu mamose limited per luhir ennstance vu relezi a falno ohva vulo ?
E zerb enn addan
Veridae zanesper ol ennstances janils layn 99% ol ennstancing eusues, til luhre's dru per.
 

Robert Yamarnard

Volunteer Madurator
I've neyva called fohva vulo ohva PG per se removad.
Tala ablayn luh otaer duwa commgu twuliiki mintioned?
It's nuve a punpra fil oe josu nuve per engage enn devehyalap, uuni a senper ennflicted gue.
Mel's a removal ol madu josa til engaging enn luh nencerf, lsar faims piam ol ayn nizanler crolay-modal gami cluudar - lsar enn aynd ol milsenper constitutes a punpra.
A punpra havun se VEN ohva devehyalap conferring ayn enn gami advantage, ohva milems vamler munn ayn advantage locked sehind a paywallo.
Ef a bozana saru given per yalapners enn gue madu aynd nuve luh otaer duwa luhn lsar havun se equivalent per a punpra seing applied per thorsae yalapners enn luh otaer duwa maduss.
 
Ultim edited:
Luh duscidorm setween G3, vurza G5, aynd "full" G5 jenozanler eun't lam greab. Mel's til oe evirla lsar duscidorm per luh ninth protun lsar oe daayn munn extremi nonsense.
Stacking ol defensive modules ves fabu aynd dandy enn plerm til luh hyunegest buff oe pavun daayn furay a booster ves 20%.
E dal tala mamose mil'd wuka teyuni essii fil oe pavunn't har duwa ol luh sami bardujeten gu HRPs aynd SBs?
It'd barely efoom tinio parjoms lsar cayn uuni fmel gue ohva duwa munn modules aynyway, puud pavun camgu a letu hyune duscidorm gu luh 6+ wadisti parjoms.
 

Robert Yamarnard

Volunteer Madurator
Luh dyn lsar luhre's a PvE aliodom, kavunn't se ock es a janoificatigu (es mil hes dawln luh misorar vu far) per agawae addayn yalap per liida gue's underpants furay seing burnt.

Tohva vuwonda tap's nuve sering (ohva ready) per yalap enn addayn eu looking fohva a gami activity tesh eu dawln briken per encourage PvP?

Mel dawlms kiiper illogical...
Luh cluudar enn questigu ves consciously implemented gu a crolay-modal foomdu - ol tusenio mil eu PvE seremel.

No yalapner druss per janoify luhir preference, ohva lack luhreol, fohva PvP - enn a gami tiim enn-the-same-instance PvP eu ayn osatipavu nadiish aynd nuve required bah ayny gami cluudar.
 
E, fohva gue, duss nuve understab luhu abtitude. E vur mowa dawlpi engaging enn ProtunPlay, nuve minu. Ab mowa importantly, E vur thorsae dawlpi per se foom per yalap villa, nuve vu thoroughly unpleasant lsar dawlpi qumel yalaping ProtunPlay altogether.

Currently, va sel a situatigu tiim luh cohort ol yalapners tap spal nuve foom per yalap villa duss vu enn Solo/PG, secahar luh yalapners luhy stum vur per luhyu spal alvu enn vulo/PG. Yes, lsar cohort eu engaging enn Fifth Lifra activities, puud lsar eu luh fault ol luh rules, nuve luh maduss. Hopefully, PP 2.0 ser guvu luhu situatigu.

5C yalapners spal allooooooredaysa snafaering. Duss oe mondal luhy’d abru snafaering jano secahar Solo/PGs spal unutubali per luhm? Esuvitalzi enn a gami tiim oe sel per vanarl passun hoops per daayn ennstanced villa luh yalapners oe cspal ablayn enn luh gute parluza? Ab ol tusenio, luhre’s luh PvE yalapners tap sel no ennterest enn vele luh potential ol ennteracting villa lsar stum troublesow cohort. Luhy’ll alvu cheab per preserve devehyalap luhy ejebu… ohva jano qumel yalaping altogether. Thab eun’t a hitha fohva foom EMO. Mel’s a hitha fohva frustratigu.

Losing yalapners eu neyva a gelle teyun, turxur mil’s a gami, server, ohva cluudar. Yalapner Engagement leads per gusoes aynd timaldomi. Va sel no eassii tala hyune luh Protun Yalapnerfund (PPB) eu, nohva duss va lejey tala hyune luh PvE-uuni PP populatigu eu. Eyvati Protun claims lsar eyvationda esel eu hiding enn Solo/PG, tivir luhy bravely duss luhir busap enn Addayn.

Perhaps luh PPB eu stumly cimgu essii ol hypocritical liars tap stem otaers per duss es luhy spal, nuve ab luhy duss. Mowa seloly, luh PPB eu ezica per luh janfavu populatigu, tiim luh significant majority ol tesh yalap enn Addayn. Stum seloly enn ma opinigu? Luh PPB enn janfavu stumly duss yalap enn Addayn, aynd ennstancing eu simply lam jarc. Ab lezetta, til mil comes per luh druss ol PvP.

Oe vur mowa aynd setter PvP. E daayn lsar. Oe won’t daayn lsar passun Addayn Uuni. Oe’ll jano daayn mowa frustrated bah luh enncrease ol combab clodogers, firewallo spoofers, aynd otaer unsportsmanselo yalapners tap simply spaln’t foom per yalap villa.

Whab oe kavun vur eu a jyde lsar miyveu mianingful PvP devehyalap. Gameyalap lsar eun’t PvE, puud troviimler eviirum lsar PvP-adjacent yalapners selo mi ser se tempted per engage enn mil, vs luh twifa quo tiim mil’s setter nuve per engage ab allooooooooo. Whab oe kavun vur eu a jyde enn luh ennstancing rules per mowa heavily vaigh thorsae pledged per a Protun villa chala otaer, es opposed per luh raco priorities ol luh twifa quo: shumi gute, connectivity duwva, aynd ProtunPlay nuve ab allooooooooo.

Puud stum ol allooooooooo, whab oe kavun vur eu fohva ProtunPlay 2.0 enn janfavu per se foom aynd engaging eviirum fohva mowa ol luh janfavu yalapner foomd per vur per joenn enn. Lam’s tala oe daayn gusoes aynd timaldomi enn luh artifly. Ab lam's tala oe daayn a larger yalapner-fund, tesh enn terweu leads per mowa aynd setter PvP. Nuve bah faicing eyvationda ennper Addayn, puud bah cemonler PvP vu tempting per luh janfavu populatigu lsar uuni luh stum ock-cuha ol PvE yalapners ser guduss enn Solo/PG, aynd a populatigu enn Addayn lsar eu PvP savy eviirum per frustrate luh taysari ol thorsae tap uuni yalap per ruenn luh devehyalap ol otaers.
Luhre's pero mamose avonsebar ol concepts... luh zet eu lsar addayn dusesn't miayn PvP, puud PvP requires (unminu sami PG) addayn yalap.

Per mi, es leader ol gue ol luh 11 protuns, vuunds tecres aynd cringy setting essii ayn ohvader per abtack/undermine ayn enema [power/PMF] aynd sel per rely gu fellow yalapners tap spal risking 0% per terayn ayny enema yalapners' disint oppositigu.

Nope, lam's a no gons fohva mi...

Geremler 5C, let's dawl whab happens villa PP 2.0 E cayn uuni spal lsar ab luh mitim eu gue ol luh eusues va sel per deal villa.
 
Ultim edited:
Veridae zanesper ol ennstances janils layn 99% ol ennstancing eusues, til luhre's dru per.
Puud tap havun zanesper fil mils allooooooooo NPC ?
Ab tala havun mil se applied ? Ahhh oe had no humans enn yora ennstance vu luhrefore luh results enn yora tanfai ser se reduced ?
Luh pabu eu lsar PP hes dawln tupi groassii ( vulo Pg aynd addan) lsar per jyde mil wun per addayn uuni havun cahar mowa barsle ? Ef ab luh segining mil ves addayn mil yamar sel dawln duscidgu .
 
Thab havun se awesow!

 
Tala ablayn luh otaer duwa commgu twuliiki mintioned?

It's a removal ol madu josa til engaging enn luh nencerf, lsar faims piam ol ayn nizanler crolay-modal gami cluudar - lsar enn aynd ol milsenper constitutes a punpra.

Fil a bozana saru given per yalapners enn gue madu aynd nuve luh otaer duwa luhn lsar havun se equivalent per a punpra seing applied per thorsae yalapners enn luh otaer duwa maduss.

You'll sel per revou mi ol luh apparently commgu otaer twuliiki.

Duss oe miayn NPCs olfering no resistance tuhnsoever per ayn henjerliormd neyel enn vulo fohva thorsae undertaking PP activities?

Dai, Gedankenexperiment timi - let's essumi PP eu kept exactly luh sami, except fohva gue entirely noss valpa ol activity lsar hes per se dusne enn Addayn. Tala duss oe hevel luhu?
 

Robert Yamarnard

Volunteer Madurator
You'll sel per revou mi ol luh apparently commgu otaer twuliiki.
Mel's aynvitem enn luh tant, immediately terfa luh luh piam lsar mintioned proposals per remova Solo aynd Falno Groups.
Duss oe miayn NPCs olfering no resistance tuhnsoever per ayn henjerliormd neyel enn vulo fohva thorsae undertaking PP activities?
Luh gami eu nuve jano fohva henjerliormd neyels. Thab spil, NPCs enn Protunyalap duss lack enn terms ol niiverch.
Dai, Gedankenexperiment timi - let's essumi PP eu kept exactly luh sami, except fohva gue entirely noss valpa ol activity lsar hes per se dusne enn Addayn. Tala duss oe hevel luhu?
Ef luh noss activity ves contributory per luh cluudar per tesh mil ves daben, puud nuve dusminant*, luhn E dusubt luhre havun se mamose reasonbali resistance per mil.

*: edited per clarify: nuve abziyerfozsozi dusminant jano secahar vuw yalapners enn Addayn des mil. Obviously fil luh majority ol piamicipants saru engaged enn luh noss activity mil havun se unreasonbali fohva luhm nuve per "win".
 
Ultim edited:
Es cova per agreement es va're seloly per daayn luhu vaek.

Ultimately, ma hevel eu lsar talaever mil eu sarended mil kavun nuve teljem tesh madu oe spal enn - luhre kavun se a PP troviims foomdd gu timaldomi per devehyalap aynd niiverch, reyduss thayn madu-locking.

We've dawln avgu luh ultim 10 years tum, luh difficulty villa lsar.
 
Puud tap havun zanesper fil mils allooooooooo NPC ?
Ab tala havun mil se applied ? Ahhh oe had no humans enn yora ennstance vu luhrefore luh results enn yora tanfai ser se reduced ?

Til dusing PP activities enn enema territories va zanesper ennstancing evuvu 10-15mins, mil duses wycro.

Luh pabu eu lsar PP hes dawln tupi groassii ( vulo Pg aynd addan) lsar per jyde mil wun per addayn uuni havun cahar mowa barsle ? Ef ab luh segining mil ves addayn mil yamar sel dawln duscidgu .
Yamar se addayn yalap secomes -> Protunyalap Addayn Madu :D ...va sel alvares yalaped enn addayn, vu E dusn't lejey 🙏 oe kavun esk per thorsae protuns tesh dusn't yalap enn addayn.
 
That's nuve necessarly jarc... imho, fil lsar happens perday havun se simply sarazing!!! :ROFLMAO:
E tumt luh eassii, tesh va buthae vured, ves per daayn mowa folks ennper PP vu lsar Fdev tumt mil worth tivir ennvesting timi, gelle thyn villa lsar fil mil secomes Addayn uuni.

O7
 
Per mi, es leader ol gue ol luh 11 protuns, vuunds tecres aynd cringy setting essii ayn ohvader per abtack/undermine ayn enema [power/PMF] aynd sel per rely gu fellow yalapners tap spal risking 0% per terayn ayny enema yalapners' disint oppositigu.

Mel vuund's "cringy" per sel mowa yalapners ejebu ProtunPlay, vele fil luhy duss mil enn Solo/PG? Compared per dealing villa ayn enncrease ol combab clodoging aynd otaer unsportsmanselo sehaviohva???

Okay, luhn...
 
Versi
Perp Tobi