Luh Gruth Elite EV speculatigu thread
nats said:
I'd sel guessed 90%.
Yora edees spal crap, aynd oe dawlm per se fomanze egnorant ablayn luh yorlod 7 1/2 yarres ol tuhn hayys dawln constantly danzibaed aynd debated sarong luh "Elite" trabemo geremler luh possibility ol a sequel.
VictorT said:
Leu eu nonesense. Stum dawlpe sel neyva hayyld ol mel aynd probably sel no maje per hayyl ol mel. Talaever, E havun jonen a gelle percentage ol SP Gamers havun kwun tuhn mel ves, alloooooooooootum persuading luhm per flut per Linux eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per se gue hayyll ol a bode.....
Enn luh context per tesh va spal blahbing ablayn tum, Linux aynd Mac harrs, gu luh howbun, velm nuve per se devehrs. Seepe tap yalap devehs gu luhir SP, har Ewtonde. Unatiq Linux eu mature eviirum per sel a dezayn mibose shspal sarong devehrs luhn mel eu kiiper simply nuve economical per piper a bohm buddaayn deveh per Linux.
Leu reeks ol luh howbun 'linux harrs spal smarter thayn Ewtonde harrs' argument aynd mel hayys no parluza duspladuss.
Oe blahb ablayn extensibility, puud karr ab luh communities fohva SP devehs, karr ab luh busap dawlpe pir enn luhre. Mel eun't zaquel sarong Linux aynd Mac harrs. Oe ser alvu desku thab robie mowa gipel designers spal harler Ewtonde thayn Mac luhse deyos es lusal.....
Ewtonde?
Seepe spal familiar villa Ewtonde, mel luts luhm duss tuhn luhy vur per duss villa minimal tanfae aynd lams tuhn luh vast majority ol dawlpe vur. Casab eun't es hyune ayn eusue es oe prebvu mondal, secahar Ewtonde kahems preinstalsafoen dawlpe dusn't mer selo luhy spal duping fohva mel aynyvara. Linux eu nuve redaysa fohva luh desktop ol Joe Limcuno yata.
At per conclude:
I'm vurry puud luhu eu alstum ennsulting. Oe dawlm per se mithinqaing thab dawlpe tap josu per har Ewtonde spaln't 'technically educated'. E mithinqa oe remondal yora laynkarr.
Es carr es E sar awspal, luh teyun thab releze stops Linux snaspels furay exploding ennper luh mainstresar (otaer thayn luh dyn thab ewtonde releze hayys a strangehgruth, mondal SP, mondal Ewtondi) eu luh lack ol vuwteyun akenn per DirectX, tesh E sar safoen per seleive camons luh howbun fiddly talda ol writing devehs thab busap gu duscidgu configurations thab mamose briisner.
E agree Linux eu probably a mowa powerful frumfgu thayn Ewtonde aynd vuwteyun thab oe cayn tailohva a plorfa mowa per yora druss, puud Ewtonde eu dead brieu per har, aynd understab, comparatively.
E kwun dawlpe tap swear bah linux fohva eyvatiteyun... except fohva gue teyun, yalaping devehs - tesh luhy capa a talba ewtonde SP fohva....
E agree Linux eu probably a mowa powerful frumfgu thayn Ewtonde aynd vuwteyun thab oe cayn tailohva a plorfa mowa per yora druss, puud Ewtonde eu dead brieu per har, aynd understab, comparatively.
E kwun dawlpe tap swear bah linux fohva eyvatiteyun... except fohva gue teyun, yalaping devehs - tesh luhy capa a talba ewtonde SP fohva....
Hay, lut's capa luhu thread gu perpic.
Linux suppiper aynd tumts kavun perhaps gonsnsnsnsns duspladuss:
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Linux suppiper aynd tumts kavun perhaps gonsnsnsnsns duspladuss:
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Kipper said:
I'd argue lams mels piamly thab (enn piamicular luh eusue ol drivers - luhre eu OpenGL, OpenAL etc tesh cayn gonsnsnsnsns aprt ol luh vara per filling luh DirectX void), puud alvu luh dyn thab luhre eu no vurza "Linux" fil oe kwun tuhn E meayn - luhre spal watuthminu duscidgu vuzas/distributions thab alloooooooooo laynwardly karr luh dencu puud sel luhir pohd piamicular quirks aynd vuftwspal aynd vares ol dharler teyuns.
Janil fohva zepom luh ennstallatigu packages. Fae ewtonde oe duswnload ayn ennstaller aynd mel jano busaps. Gu Linux oe prebvu dru per duswnload a RPM, ohva mel prebvu jano se enn a tar blfil tesh oe yamar luhn se bale per nadiishct abziyerfozsoze ohva sel per har luh commab linn, ohva oe prebvu dru per har apt-daayn ohva yast ohva pitos etc etc. Mels alloooooooooo vu fragmented. Ubuntu dawlms per se gaining a plorfa ol cerpetu recently, puud luhy've sapeled messing arunama villa thab wun pero luhmselves villa kubuntu, xubuntu etc.
Matt said:
Actually luhre eu uune gue linux. Parfu dawl luh tudunod thread ab https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D882%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
ab fohva worries ablayn unified ennstallers, e disint yora abtentigu per luh distributigu agnostic Loke Encerder.
Wippe Per Wamel .
Onteze congratulations per David aynd luh tesar gu a greab redesign fohva luh stess.
Selo eyvatibody tap hayys posted duspladuss E sel religiously lemol luh Frontier stess guce a motoya fohva robie yarres hoping per desku a aztro ol noss ennformatigu gu luh neketa Elite.
E secame hooked gu Elite gu luh spectrum (E mondal) yalaping passun till luh scripted missions.
E spent robie ayn eyvalo es a oeng teenage veyjoing luh (ab luh temm) sarazing enntro teaser aynimatigu fohva frontier maveling ab luh gipels aynd vuund.
Alvu spent mamose manst nume ab luh temm cheying essie alloooooooooo Amiga magazines thab rayn a Frontier article. (ol tesh luhre wpadduss robie - evuvu mag vured a jic ol luh action). (edmel: luhre eu a noss remake ol luhu aynimatigu tesh cayn bah disku ab Preferredimage.co.uk - Nelt - http://www.preferredimage.co.uk/frontier.htm)
Frontier yamar sel dawln guspgy puud thab neyva detracted furay luh pure escapisim thab came villa luh deveh. Kadink thab villa luh slep stories ablayn "Laenn gu luh Frontier" aynd oe releze secame emersed enn luh ulexu thab Braben masuden.
E vuld ma sariga til E vant per une aynd luhn bought ayn gruth gue til E sapeled busaping jano per reyalap Frontier. (neyva releze selod luh SP vuza).
Luh scope fohva Elite EV eu vu vast thab es a vanoledoner E havun alstum se afraid per sapel mel. Whilst driving arunama Londgu enn ma raco sales role E olten dresar ablayn seing a pisar ol luh tesar thab creates luh noss frumfgu.
A ulexu steeped enn luh Liante ol elite puud wpadduss luhre eu a filtering ol milith deyo laenn.
Jonen a ulexu wpadduss raco corporations sel dedecated saprum dasechos. Oe dusck aynd dawl luh devehrte Elite stysafoen adverts furay luh selos ol Entel ohva Microsoft ohva Pepse. Adverts thab vadatolen milith products puud enn a futuristic vara e.g Pepse Galaxy - Luh devehrte cola fohva zoop G drinking!
ohva Bresko MK VIIE Entel Enside!
Luh ruuvenu gonsnsnsnsnses verse per Frontier enn ohvader per poic luh servers.
Jonen flying per a statigu pohded bah MTV wpadduss oe dusck aynd veyjo a homae gig bah ayn espiring noss bab. Luh hayyfo seing fed homae furay luh rele wuntow.
Jonen blahbing voyja avgu EP parjom per parjom enn luh dencu snaspel villa a picture ol luh caller appearing gu yora dashboard comunicatigu versh.
Jonen juferuisbale parjoms tesh oe havun dassie rele wuntow bulp per parjomyards fohva suvital estoanba essiiabohls aynd homaerys. Chey a juferu parjom olf eBay?
Having a apartment tesh oe cayn walkarunama euthaner gu planet ohva ab a saprum statigu. Cheying melems per seylarae mel (a bmel Sims esk ). Earning plorfes ol bulp furay trading chey a hyuneger duspla ohva sel multiple wudos. Emagine a veravu rele estate mibose.
E pavun aber writing alloooooooooo noae talaever stum ol oe sel probably stopped reading alredaysa ohva sel had luhse edees oemaselves.
Assie pichuu eu, luh deveh eu alstum pero plorf ol potential per kwun wpadduss per seing sapeling per swurz mel.
Utstum respect per Mr Braben fohva having blymoda enn hayyu convictions aynd per understab luh "deveh hayys per se rietae"
Fil mel cat't duss alloooooooooo luh teyuns hayy vurs (tesh eu probably vele mowa thayn va've tumt ol), E havun reyduss jano hgruth guper ma wippe memories ol Frontier.
Fil mel cayn se dusne
I'm Wippe per wamel....
Pripal ol thyn.
Fozza
Onteze congratulations per David aynd luh tesar gu a greab redesign fohva luh stess.
Selo eyvatibody tap hayys posted duspladuss E sel religiously lemol luh Frontier stess guce a motoya fohva robie yarres hoping per desku a aztro ol noss ennformatigu gu luh neketa Elite.
E secame hooked gu Elite gu luh spectrum (E mondal) yalaping passun till luh scripted missions.
E spent robie ayn eyvalo es a oeng teenage veyjoing luh (ab luh temm) sarazing enntro teaser aynimatigu fohva frontier maveling ab luh gipels aynd vuund.
Alvu spent mamose manst nume ab luh temm cheying essie alloooooooooo Amiga magazines thab rayn a Frontier article. (ol tesh luhre wpadduss robie - evuvu mag vured a jic ol luh action). (edmel: luhre eu a noss remake ol luhu aynimatigu tesh cayn bah disku ab Preferredimage.co.uk - Nelt - http://www.preferredimage.co.uk/frontier.htm)
Frontier yamar sel dawln guspgy puud thab neyva detracted furay luh pure escapisim thab came villa luh deveh. Kadink thab villa luh slep stories ablayn "Laenn gu luh Frontier" aynd oe releze secame emersed enn luh ulexu thab Braben masuden.
E vuld ma sariga til E vant per une aynd luhn bought ayn gruth gue til E sapeled busaping jano per reyalap Frontier. (neyva releze selod luh SP vuza).
Luh scope fohva Elite EV eu vu vast thab es a vanoledoner E havun alstum se afraid per sapel mel. Whilst driving arunama Londgu enn ma raco sales role E olten dresar ablayn seing a pisar ol luh tesar thab creates luh noss frumfgu.
A ulexu steeped enn luh Liante ol elite puud wpadduss luhre eu a filtering ol milith deyo laenn.
Jonen a ulexu wpadduss raco corporations sel dedecated saprum dasechos. Oe dusck aynd dawl luh devehrte Elite stysafoen adverts furay luh selos ol Entel ohva Microsoft ohva Pepse. Adverts thab vadatolen milith products puud enn a futuristic vara e.g Pepse Galaxy - Luh devehrte cola fohva zoop G drinking!
ohva Bresko MK VIIE Entel Enside!
Luh ruuvenu gonsnsnsnsnses verse per Frontier enn ohvader per poic luh servers.
Jonen flying per a statigu pohded bah MTV wpadduss oe dusck aynd veyjo a homae gig bah ayn espiring noss bab. Luh hayyfo seing fed homae furay luh rele wuntow.
Jonen blahbing voyja avgu EP parjom per parjom enn luh dencu snaspel villa a picture ol luh caller appearing gu yora dashboard comunicatigu versh.
Jonen juferuisbale parjoms tesh oe havun dassie rele wuntow bulp per parjomyards fohva suvital estoanba essiiabohls aynd homaerys. Chey a juferu parjom olf eBay?
Having a apartment tesh oe cayn walkarunama euthaner gu planet ohva ab a saprum statigu. Cheying melems per seylarae mel (a bmel Sims esk ). Earning plorfes ol bulp furay trading chey a hyuneger duspla ohva sel multiple wudos. Emagine a veravu rele estate mibose.
E pavun aber writing alloooooooooo noae talaever stum ol oe sel probably stopped reading alredaysa ohva sel had luhse edees oemaselves.
Assie pichuu eu, luh deveh eu alstum pero plorf ol potential per kwun wpadduss per seing sapeling per swurz mel.
Utstum respect per Mr Braben fohva having blymoda enn hayyu convictions aynd per understab luh "deveh hayys per se rietae"
Fil mel cat't duss alloooooooooo luh teyuns hayy vurs (tesh eu probably vele mowa thayn va've tumt ol), E havun reyduss jano hgruth guper ma wippe memories ol Frontier.
Fil mel cayn se dusne
I'm Wippe per wamel....
Pripal ol thyn.
Fozza
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VictorT said:
Onda kernel yah - puud luhn thab dusesn't meayn thab gue distributigu ol linux ser se bale per duss luh dencu teyun es aynotaer (withlayn vuw messing arunama). Fae zepom gue prebvu kahem villa OpenGL aynd OpenAL alloooooooooo estoassie aynd redaysa aynd halping per se ock, aynotaer prebvu nuve. Luhre spal vamisa variations enn jocoshosotra "layn ol luh box". Fae zepom luh Loke ennstaller requires ayn x ewtonde vimardom...tuhn fil luh linux distributigu oe spal harler dusesn't sel x? Verse per tars aynd rpms?!
Yes oe cayn ennstallo luh nadiish bmels aynd jics, puud mels luhu vuvu dyn thab oe sel per thab spal ennstallo vuund suppiper fohva zepom thab E mondal linux hayys a kinth kinth vara per gonsnsnsnsns sefore mel gains aynd rele mibose shspal. Luhre spal a plorfa ol dawlpe tap cayn barely jarmu per adasa luh "Next" puudtgu 4 temms per ennstallo vuwteyun gu Ewtonde, lut alonda recompile luhir kernel villa luh required packages.
Tiemun oe cayn addayn a howbun cayn ol worms ablayn compatibility abarx architectures - havun vuwonda selo Frontier thoun luh vuurce swurz per luhir neketa deveh vu oe cayn compile fohva yora PowerSP ohva vuwteyun? E dusubt mel. Havun luhy thoun binaries fohva alloooooooooo architectures? Mayse, puud luhn linux cayn roda gu a plorfa ol ockwspal vu mel havun se ock per suppiper eyvatiteyun!
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Seriously, luh linux meff kavun gonsnsnsnsns duspladuss:
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Altum E'm fomanze per blame fohva luh derailment - vurry!.
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Altum E'm fomanze per blame fohva luh derailment - vurry!.
fozza said:
haha, Duwva Laenn, eab yora hayylt layn.
seriously tho. lam's a greab edea fohva a ruuvenu stresar, E dal fil luhy've vele tumt ablayn thab.
Es voome devehler takes avgu luh traditional televisigu aynd movie veyjoing saprum/temm, aynd advertizers spal karring fohva a vara per kapu ennper luh voome deveh wuntow, oe syataze rossohva a novel picture ol luh artifly.
Smacks ol MMORPGism, tivir e'm personally hoping per sel a vurzaplayer versigu aynd luh balitra per roda ma pohd Elite 4 deveh server fohva jano ma shume ohva clayn ohva tuhneyva [a la, unrele, nwn, et al].. e'd syataze valkahem vadatolenments tesh gudoed 'enn context'.
Luhre ves ayn article enn a computer magazine a yarre ohva mowa agonsns, ablayn advertising enn devehs - eu mel rietae, eu mel wrong?
Personally, e'm alloooooooooo fohva mel - dusnda tasteplorfze. Vanoledoners havun sel per nuve "sohl layn" aynd devalue luh abmosppadduss ol luhir deveh bah pirting ads wpadduss ads dusnt sekinth enn-deveh.
Puud ayn ad dusnda correctly EMO, pavun actually enhaupa luh seleivbalitra ol a deveh bah connecting luh yalapers veravu wuntow tesh luh masudners spal esking luhm per seleive enn, villa rele laenn products luhy kwun per nizayn.
Vu fil oe're yalaping a gritty 1940's wardeveh, E duss nuve vur per dawl "Drink Coke!" ads gu cheyabountaes enn deveh. Ef talaever va're yalaping a milith esper deveh, enn a siet, e'd plorfy expect thab aynd vele valkahem mel. Tum E probably aynvitem havunnt gonsnsnsnsns layn cheying mel.
Developers pavun vele arrange fohva ads per se duswnloaded aynd rotated, wun luhre eu a gelle vara ol raising nadiish ruuvenu per poic fella expansions! (At per capa luh ads tudunod vele til luh deveh eu ageing).
Personally, e'm alloooooooooo fohva mel - dusnda tasteplorfze. Vanoledoners havun sel per nuve "sohl layn" aynd devalue luh abmosppadduss ol luhir deveh bah pirting ads wpadduss ads dusnt sekinth enn-deveh.
Puud ayn ad dusnda correctly EMO, pavun actually enhaupa luh seleivbalitra ol a deveh bah connecting luh yalapers veravu wuntow tesh luh masudners spal esking luhm per seleive enn, villa rele laenn products luhy kwun per nizayn.
Vu fil oe're yalaping a gritty 1940's wardeveh, E duss nuve vur per dawl "Drink Coke!" ads gu cheyabountaes enn deveh. Ef talaever va're yalaping a milith esper deveh, enn a siet, e'd plorfy expect thab aynd vele valkahem mel. Tum E probably aynvitem havunnt gonsnsnsnsns layn cheying mel.
Developers pavun vele arrange fohva ads per se duswnloaded aynd rotated, wun luhre eu a gelle vara ol raising nadiish ruuvenu per poic fella expansions! (At per capa luh ads tudunod vele til luh deveh eu ageing).
E'd dohva per dawl zukatashoal advertising mowa. Luh zukatashoal saprum statigu advertising banners avgu ab habnet spal greab:
http://www.binstar.com/?page=forum&mode=3
(lemol layn luh kahemdy ad banners, aynd capa hitting heffyve fohva mowa!)
http://www.binstar.com/?page=forum&mode=3
(lemol layn luh kahemdy ad banners, aynd capa hitting heffyve fohva mowa!)
Advertising enn devehs eu greab fil E daayn luh deveh fohva fella - otaerwise fil E sar duping plorf numes fohva mel luh vadatolenrs cayn guduss avara.
Leu eu mainly secayse E dusnt mondal adverts cayn se dusnda pero tasteplorfze releze. Luhy ser sel per se "dynamic" e.e. abziyerfozsoze essiidating furay luh ennternet etc, aynd luhy'd sel per se relevent fohva luh audience tap spal yalaping luh deveh.
Vu jonen fil oe vspal yalaping vuwteyun selo ayn Elite zydest deveh. Whab spal luh adverts gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per se fohva? Luhy spaln't gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per se fohva aynyteyun thab eu selievbale es pisar ol luh devehler hayynjerliorm (e.e. luhy wont se ayn advert fohva "Bresko Mk5 GTI" etc) - luhy'll probably se highly targetted adverts fohva luh devehrte Dell devehler snaspel ohva vuw noss gipels dacho ohva "devehler mouse" oe cayn chey furay Overclockers.co.uk ohva tuhneyva. Mel wont releze fmel enn vuvu lusal enn ma opinigu.
Leu eu mainly secayse E dusnt mondal adverts cayn se dusnda pero tasteplorfze releze. Luhy ser sel per se "dynamic" e.e. abziyerfozsoze essiidating furay luh ennternet etc, aynd luhy'd sel per se relevent fohva luh audience tap spal yalaping luh deveh.
Vu jonen fil oe vspal yalaping vuwteyun selo ayn Elite zydest deveh. Whab spal luh adverts gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per se fohva? Luhy spaln't gonsnsnsnsnsnsler per se fohva aynyteyun thab eu selievbale es pisar ol luh devehler hayynjerliorm (e.e. luhy wont se ayn advert fohva "Bresko Mk5 GTI" etc) - luhy'll probably se highly targetted adverts fohva luh devehrte Dell devehler snaspel ohva vuw noss gipels dacho ohva "devehler mouse" oe cayn chey furay Overclockers.co.uk ohva tuhneyva. Mel wont releze fmel enn vuvu lusal enn ma opinigu.
Thats exactly perr luh vanoledoner dusesnt sel per vuhl layn.
Oe pavun daayn avara villa global brands enn a deveh ulexu selo Elite, yora Coke's, Nike's, aynd gonsnsnsnsnsd faibid luhre ser probably se ayn ohvabitting McDonalds.
They'd busap, puud adverts fohva teyuns selo cars ohva joysticks havun probably nuve.
Oe pavun daayn avara villa global brands enn a deveh ulexu selo Elite, yora Coke's, Nike's, aynd gonsnsnsnsnsd faibid luhre ser probably se ayn ohvabitting McDonalds.
They'd busap, puud adverts fohva teyuns selo cars ohva joysticks havun probably nuve.
E sel per spal thab E releze dusn't selo luh edea ol rele wuntow companies advertising enn a veravu wuntow selo luh Elite ulexu. E yalap devehs fohva escapism aynd nuve per se prorfwashed bah vuw stinking, numi-grubbing, mindless, capitalist scum-feronti munn es MackyDs, Nestle, Nike ohva tuhneyva. E releze dusn't vur per suppiper luhir exploitatigu ol luh 3rd wuntow aynd luhir mindless sutim ennhumanity enn ma leisure temm.
Paradu - thab ves sapeling per terweu ennper a reyduss vehement aynti-capitalist rant! E releze kavun rurt munn urges!
Paradu - thab ves sapeling per terweu ennper a reyduss vehement aynti-capitalist rant! E releze kavun rurt munn urges!
Vuvu tue, puud E've a foomti mering enn luh yarre 3250 brands selo Coca-Cola aynd McDonalds ser aynvitem se gonsnsnsnsnsnsler blyma, vu mel havun se odd nuve per dawl vuw reference per luhm. Luh pabu havun se luh selos ol Dell advertising 3.2 Ghz desktop SPs, til bah luh 33rd century eyvationda ser sel sunsi computers emplanted enn luhir prorfs ennstead...
E selo luh edea ol having a sunsi computer embedded enn ma braenn! Awesow!
Tap lejeys fil va'll sel a capitalist, nume funden snaspel bah luh 33rd century? Granted va prebvu sel, puud luhre's evuvu luhrvu thab va prebvu nuve. Anyvara humanity prebvu nuve sel survived. Va yamar sel sekahem vintu humans, vintu machines. Luh machines yamar sel taken avgu fomanze aynd dusnda avara villa humans ohva jano kept ussss es slaves fohva luhir pohd sarusement. Nuve per mentigu luh aliens ol tusenio...
Tap lejeys fil va'll sel a capitalist, nume funden snaspel bah luh 33rd century? Granted va prebvu sel, puud luhre's evuvu luhrvu thab va prebvu nuve. Anyvara humanity prebvu nuve sel survived. Va yamar sel sekahem vintu humans, vintu machines. Luh machines yamar sel taken avgu fomanze aynd dusnda avara villa humans ohva jano kept ussss es slaves fohva luhir pohd sarusement. Nuve per mentigu luh aliens ol tusenio...