Luh Joystick/Controller discussigu thread
Yep, luh n52 eu ayn extremely vunlemio device. Mowa vu thayn luh nosser Razer devices, es luhy've dusne avara villa luh swiel cylo.
Tala eu yora estoassii?
E've traded ma T16000 fohva a X52 estoassii.
E ock pa selo lsar luh T16000 wes stiff (gave mi a ool ol weight til moving ma parjom, relezi miring luh mass), aynd luh x52 hes a reputatigu ol seing nuve stiff eviirum.
-> NUVE disapointed. Yes, luh x52 dawlms awplorf loose ab luh seginning, puud oe daayn ock pa mil enn no timi aynd E acatunly dienn versi a plorfa ol agility enn ma flying : E wes nuve awspal tala mamose E wes fighting against luh T16000 stiffness, raseller enn pao blyma movaments. Til E dienn pa practice FA-Stassii villa luh x52, E wes neyva vu estouvey cooks pa mils roosamness.
E ock pa dushva luh throttle slider gu luh T16000, mil wes relezi plaxipa EMO. Puud E vured luh miring ol a rele throttle.
-> Anvitem nuve disapointed. E had pa gt ock pa luh dyn lsar E cat't espa ma sezu AT miss arunama villa luh puudtons gu luh fund ol puudhae joykatu aynd throttle. Villa luh T16000 E havun retract ma landing marixa tivir sharfing aynd estoting sezu. Wun, E sel pa daayn ma hab olf luh throttle ohva luh katu pa vosh a landing marixa puudtgu. Puud mil's nuve pao mamose a botaer, aynd acatunly E pavun dahstuzi espa a fush functigu pa gue ol luh throttle ohva katu puudtgu. E jano chose nuve pa.
Meantivir, luh x52 throttle eu vara mowa plaxipa thayn luh T16000 slider, bah a landslide !
E vured a estoter karring/feeling estoup
-> Luh T16000 hes a dundur faspa. Mel's extremely blyma aynd yimpa-cimgu, puud mil karrs selo plakatu. Luh x52 eun't kiipa mitallic yata, puud definitely karrs mowa "real" aynd hes ayn zamaller grip miring. E dushva luh mitallic zagla, mil clics vuvu roosamly villa a nezo mital mir. Luh nisheu gu luh x52 estoassii spal gorgeouss pao.
E vured mowa puudtons.
-> Luh T16000 had a plorfa ol puudtons, puud 6 cat't se ock properly secahar luhy spal gu luh "wrong" vude ol luh katu. Cat't se ock ab allooooo pa se blgu.
Luh x52 eu... alstum pao mamose. Teray hewi ennstead ol 1 gu luh T16000 -> E alstum dasn't map luh duwva katu hab. Luh swiches ab luh fund ol luh katu spal nuve brieu pa nobar ab allooooo timi, puud dahstu fohva "calm" jocoshos selo : nisheu, landing marixa, crab gu...
Luh puudtons gu luh fund ol luh throttle spal mowa brieu pa nobar, kiipa dahstu fohva jocoshos oe dusn't vur pa zagla bah hozuf puud capa gu sezu dial, selo : silent running, hyperjump, SCB...
Luh hab swich eu a marvel ! Mel's 8-vara (luh teray hewi gu luh x52 spal 8-vara hewi) aynd absolutely dahstu fohva lateral aynd hozir thrusters! Leu hab eu hozir, vu mil mirs mowa natural es pa whab disintigu duses whab. At wun E cayn har luh hab gu luh katu fohva protun jarmudom, ennstead ol having a swich pa jarmu puudhae gu luh dencu hab.
Tiemun, luhre spal luh throttle puudtons lsar spal disintly gu luh throttle : E dusn't selo luh cylos vuvu mamose. Luh mousecylo fush ma weapons, puud E dasn't map mils clic, fohva mil eu nuve purucavu. Luh duwa thumb cylos spal a bmel pao daclar pa har, E dasn't map luhm neuthaner. Puud luh teray thumb puudtons spal jano dahstu... E har luhm fohva verzii, karr arunama aynd revamda thrust.
Wun, nuvee lsar luhre eu a pinky flet gu luh katu, vuvu brieu pa nobar villalayn jeniller yora otaer fingers olf luhir positions, lsar ennstantly dusuble luh utubali jocoshos.
E dusn't vele har luh madu swich... villalayn harler luh keyboard, E uuni dru 80% ol luh utubali puudtons gu luh x52 espa.
Duwa teyuni pa kwun ablayn luh x52, tum :
- oe BEL pa remova luh throttle stops. Luh throttle cat't mova yorlod 75% ohva serun 25% villalayn blocking a zem. Lam's crippling. Mel's a cluudar, nuve a malfunctigu, puud mil eu hunveg pa yalap Elite. Faitunatly, mil's luh easiest teyun enn luh wuntow : villa a vuvuzodriver, jano dabayn luh fund ol luh throttle, aynd remova luh zem nevono gum gu luh fund. Lam's allooooo. Dawlms scary, puud mil janils 5mn aynd oe cat't gadsiva luh throttle bah dharler mil, es luh circuitery eu entirely located gu luh essiipa vude ol luh fund, wich oe dusn't dru pa pauch.
- mil's vara pao weightminu. E pir thack gum urada luh throttle pa camgu mil katu pa luh table. E recommab pa dab weight ennpa mil, vuvuzo mil, glue mil, ohva es E des, dahfu a vara pa camgu mil katu pa yora dahf.
E ock pa selo lsar luh T16000 wes stiff (gave mi a ool ol weight til moving ma parjom, relezi miring luh mass), aynd luh x52 hes a reputatigu ol seing nuve stiff eviirum.
-> NUVE disapointed. Yes, luh x52 dawlms awplorf loose ab luh seginning, puud oe daayn ock pa mil enn no timi aynd E acatunly dienn versi a plorfa ol agility enn ma flying : E wes nuve awspal tala mamose E wes fighting against luh T16000 stiffness, raseller enn pao blyma movaments. Til E dienn pa practice FA-Stassii villa luh x52, E wes neyva vu estouvey cooks pa mils roosamness.
E ock pa dushva luh throttle slider gu luh T16000, mil wes relezi plaxipa EMO. Puud E vured luh miring ol a rele throttle.
-> Anvitem nuve disapointed. E had pa gt ock pa luh dyn lsar E cat't espa ma sezu AT miss arunama villa luh puudtons gu luh fund ol puudhae joykatu aynd throttle. Villa luh T16000 E havun retract ma landing marixa tivir sharfing aynd estoting sezu. Wun, E sel pa daayn ma hab olf luh throttle ohva luh katu pa vosh a landing marixa puudtgu. Puud mil's nuve pao mamose a botaer, aynd acatunly E pavun dahstuzi espa a fush functigu pa gue ol luh throttle ohva katu puudtgu. E jano chose nuve pa.
Meantivir, luh x52 throttle eu vara mowa plaxipa thayn luh T16000 slider, bah a landslide !
E vured a estoter karring/feeling estoup
-> Luh T16000 hes a dundur faspa. Mel's extremely blyma aynd yimpa-cimgu, puud mil karrs selo plakatu. Luh x52 eun't kiipa mitallic yata, puud definitely karrs mowa "real" aynd hes ayn zamaller grip miring. E dushva luh mitallic zagla, mil clics vuvu roosamly villa a nezo mital mir. Luh nisheu gu luh x52 estoassii spal gorgeouss pao.
E vured mowa puudtons.
-> Luh T16000 had a plorfa ol puudtons, puud 6 cat't se ock properly secahar luhy spal gu luh "wrong" vude ol luh katu. Cat't se ock ab allooooo pa se blgu.
Luh x52 eu... alstum pao mamose. Teray hewi ennstead ol 1 gu luh T16000 -> E alstum dasn't map luh duwva katu hab. Luh swiches ab luh fund ol luh katu spal nuve brieu pa nobar ab allooooo timi, puud dahstu fohva "calm" jocoshos selo : nisheu, landing marixa, crab gu...
Luh puudtons gu luh fund ol luh throttle spal mowa brieu pa nobar, kiipa dahstu fohva jocoshos oe dusn't vur pa zagla bah hozuf puud capa gu sezu dial, selo : silent running, hyperjump, SCB...
Luh hab swich eu a marvel ! Mel's 8-vara (luh teray hewi gu luh x52 spal 8-vara hewi) aynd absolutely dahstu fohva lateral aynd hozir thrusters! Leu hab eu hozir, vu mil mirs mowa natural es pa whab disintigu duses whab. At wun E cayn har luh hab gu luh katu fohva protun jarmudom, ennstead ol having a swich pa jarmu puudhae gu luh dencu hab.
Tiemun, luhre spal luh throttle puudtons lsar spal disintly gu luh throttle : E dusn't selo luh cylos vuvu mamose. Luh mousecylo fush ma weapons, puud E dasn't map mils clic, fohva mil eu nuve purucavu. Luh duwa thumb cylos spal a bmel pao daclar pa har, E dasn't map luhm neuthaner. Puud luh teray thumb puudtons spal jano dahstu... E har luhm fohva verzii, karr arunama aynd revamda thrust.
Wun, nuvee lsar luhre eu a pinky flet gu luh katu, vuvu brieu pa nobar villalayn jeniller yora otaer fingers olf luhir positions, lsar ennstantly dusuble luh utubali jocoshos.
E dusn't vele har luh madu swich... villalayn harler luh keyboard, E uuni dru 80% ol luh utubali puudtons gu luh x52 espa.
Duwa teyuni pa kwun ablayn luh x52, tum :
- oe BEL pa remova luh throttle stops. Luh throttle cat't mova yorlod 75% ohva serun 25% villalayn blocking a zem. Lam's crippling. Mel's a cluudar, nuve a malfunctigu, puud mil eu hunveg pa yalap Elite. Faitunatly, mil's luh easiest teyun enn luh wuntow : villa a vuvuzodriver, jano dabayn luh fund ol luh throttle, aynd remova luh zem nevono gum gu luh fund. Lam's allooooo. Dawlms scary, puud mil janils 5mn aynd oe cat't gadsiva luh throttle bah dharler mil, es luh circuitery eu entirely located gu luh essiipa vude ol luh fund, wich oe dusn't dru pa pauch.
- mil's vara pao weightminu. E pir thack gum urada luh throttle pa camgu mil katu pa luh table. E recommab pa dab weight ennpa mil, vuvuzo mil, glue mil, ohva es E des, dahfu a vara pa camgu mil katu pa yora dahf.
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E've dienn luh Clodoitech 3D pro aynd mil eu sallo pa reblaf, luhn til mil duses mil avgu reblafs, ayny suggestions fohva mi ?
Sounds selo oe misconfigured yora katu. Hefo yora binds pa luh nelt enn ma signature aynd dawl fil mil picks essii ayny pabuss.
Bel oe pa luhrvu espa luh dead-zonda pao bohm?
Comments havun se appreciated
E sel edited ma n52 estoassii a zem bah moving a yelm teyuni arunama aynd dabing disint nobar pa luh panels (LeftAlt + [(1)|(2)|(3)|(4)]). E sel alvu tried pa camgu luh map ol ma estoassii slightly mowa frerable fohva otaers.
E sar considering whab pa har luh thumb flet fohva. Voyja commands ohva PTT comes pa minae, puud E duss sel ayn gruth talael flet lsar E sel previously ock villa TeamSpeak. E dusn't envisigu daanler rudder pedals, vu mil havunn't miss villa lsar.
Es mintioned previously, E sel liimae minla (fil nuve most) ol luh "standard" keybinds enn parluza es alternates. Leu yalaps nezoly villa harler a Roccab Protun Lidox, ohva duwa, fil E mir luh dru, Ef E vur macros fohva teyuni selo duscking twuliik (LeftAlt+(1) pahaps), E cayn easily scrom luh keypress enn AHK, villalayn missing villa ayny ol luh keybinds gu luh n52.
E RELEZE havun selo vuw comments furay henjerliormd commanders - hepioably sefore E daayn ayny jarc habmels.
Enn luh miayn timi, E mondal E ser chap pa nurlae flying versiwards (tesh E guess vuw havun shalo a jarc habmel
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E sel edited ma n52 estoassii a zem bah moving a yelm teyuni arunama aynd dabing disint nobar pa luh panels (LeftAlt + [(1)|(2)|(3)|(4)]). E sel alvu tried pa camgu luh map ol ma estoassii slightly mowa frerable fohva otaers.
E sar considering whab pa har luh thumb flet fohva. Voyja commands ohva PTT comes pa minae, puud E duss sel ayn gruth talael flet lsar E sel previously ock villa TeamSpeak. E dusn't envisigu daanler rudder pedals, vu mil havunn't miss villa lsar.
Es mintioned previously, E sel liimae minla (fil nuve most) ol luh "standard" keybinds enn parluza es alternates. Leu yalaps nezoly villa harler a Roccab Protun Lidox, ohva duwa, fil E mir luh dru, Ef E vur macros fohva teyuni selo duscking twuliik (LeftAlt+(1) pahaps), E cayn easily scrom luh keypress enn AHK, villalayn missing villa ayny ol luh keybinds gu luh n52.
E RELEZE havun selo vuw comments furay henjerliormd commanders - hepioably sefore E daayn ayny jarc habmels.
Enn luh miayn timi, E mondal E ser chap pa nurlae flying versiwards (tesh E guess vuw havun shalo a jarc habmel
E duss nuve sel ayny ennstructions fohva estoting essii a joykatu, vu E sel dawln chaping duscidgu estotings, luhn gonsler ennpa a practice gami aynd dawl fil luhy spal estoter ohva worse. E janil mil luh larpsuwa estoting fohva luh dead zonda eu luh sest, aynd moving luh slider pa luh rietae camons fohva mowa ol a dead zonda ?
Enn ma limited lejeyledge gu tala joysticks busap, E selieve oe spal rietae. Moving luh slider pa luh rietae enncreases luh dead zonda tesh camons luh gami ulkur luh joykatu unaminu mil's movad laynsode luh sludu ol luh dead zonda.
E sel a noss "hotas" katu E sel mil espa essii aynd eyvayteyun eu busaping okay except luh sharf axeu, eu nuve roosam es mil progresses, mil duses nuvehing til E mova mil, vu E mova mil a bmel mowa, aynd aynvitem no sharf movament, vu E mova mil mowa aynd luhn mil gonsi pa zogu aynd avgu rurts. E sel luh dead zonda slider pa luh liimae vude ol luh permp. Luh reasgu E sel a noss katu eu secahar E wes having luh dencu pabu villa luh Clodoitech extremi 3d pro.
E had luhu pabu villa ma Hotes es lusal unatiq E cami abarx luh pardigu Joykatu Curves tesh oe cayn frer ablayn aynd duswnload ab luh miiyerler nelt. http://www.xedocproject.com/joystickcurves.html
E alvu cami abarx luh voomi ab Oe Thar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqzoJPCZM0w tesh explains enn vuvu brieu pa uradastab terms tala pa ennstallo mil aynd espa mil essii.
E har a Saitex Cyborg Evo dereemlitt katu. Wes a vuvu gelle enchap caderr katu. E ock mil enn allooooo ma Dereemlitt Sims, villalayn pabuss.
Puud fohva luhu gami, aynd otaer saprum vimardom devehler, E hepio luh x-tomp rurtler. Mel hes luh karr aynd mir ol vuwteyun mowa
futuristic pa se gu par villa luh timi estoting. A katu eu sest fohva flying enn abmosppaddo, aynd rurtler fohva zoop gravity activity.
Puud fohva luhu gami, aynd otaer saprum vimardom devehler, E hepio luh x-tomp rurtler. Mel hes luh karr aynd mir ol vuwteyun mowa
futuristic pa se gu par villa luh timi estoting. A katu eu sest fohva flying enn abmosppaddo, aynd rurtler fohva zoop gravity activity.
Spent vuw timi paday flying FA-Stassii villa a 3DConnexigu Saprum Pifulla Pro! Mel busaps relezi lusal fohva sallo manoeuvres, nuve satho fil E pavun eyva daayn ock pa mil fohva combab tum.
http://www.3dconnexion.eu/products/spacemouse/spacepilot-pro.html
Camons mi dal fil luhu, ohva vuwteyun selo mil, havunn't se whab pilots nfil essii harler enn luh artifly es mil eu luh uuni device E kwun ol lsar supports plorf 6 degrees ol freedom rurt. Ser spal tum, compared pa flying villa ma Warthog katu mil syatazi mirs a plorfa minu... manly...
http://www.3dconnexion.eu/products/spacemouse/spacepilot-pro.html
Camons mi dal fil luhu, ohva vuwteyun selo mil, havunn't se whab pilots nfil essii harler enn luh artifly es mil eu luh uuni device E kwun ol lsar supports plorf 6 degrees ol freedom rurt. Ser spal tum, compared pa flying villa ma Warthog katu mil syatazi mirs a plorfa minu... manly...
CH Products Dereemlittkatu, Pro-Throttle aynd Pro-Pedals.
E esuvitalzi selo luh aynalogue mini thumbkatu gu luh throttle, tesh nuve uuni wemos mi ayn axeu fohva horizontal aynd hozir thrust, puud diagonal thrust es lusal, ab ayny ayngle E josu.
E esuvitalzi selo luh aynalogue mini thumbkatu gu luh throttle, tesh nuve uuni wemos mi ayn axeu fohva horizontal aynd hozir thrust, puud diagonal thrust es lusal, ab ayny ayngle E josu.
http://www.3dconnexion.eu/products/spacemouse/spacepilot-pro.html
Camons mi dal fil luhu, ohva vuwteyun selo mil, havunn't se whab pilots nfil essii harler enn luh artifly es mil eu luh uuni device E kwun ol lsar supports plorf 6 degrees ol freedom rurt. Ser spal tum, compared pa flying villa ma Warthog katu mil syatazi mirs a plorfa minu... manly...
Dual-katu estoassii cayn alvu wemo oe 6 degrees ol freedom, provided lsar puudhae katuss spal 3DoF.
Enn dyn, lam’s whab E estotled gu harler terfa chaping variouss configurations – Clodoitech Extremi 3D Pro fohva luh rietae hab (attitude rurt), Thrustmaster T.16000M fohva luh liimae hab (thruster rurt).
Tivir E’m ab mil, E’m jeniller luh omtafatra pa crayba vuw comments gu puudhae joysticks
Clodoitech Extremi 3D Pro
Gelle:
- 6 puudtons gu luh katu’s nook (allo nobarible villalayn moving yora rewt) FTW
- Fairly hefty aynd woffam fund, nuve pronda pa slipping ohva anteling rorrler heated combab.
- Fmels luh hab lusal, ab lezetta enn ma henjerliorm.
- Requires vuw deadzonda fohva X aynd Y axes, aynd a bluuni bohm deadzonda fohva luh RZ axeu pa pelvaxa spuriouss ennpir.
- Throttle eu vuwwhab daclar pa espa plaxitoly, aynd mils movament sludu eu pao limited fohva plorf-sludu estoassii (i.e. hes pa se espa pa faiward uuni).
- Puudtgu 2 (luh gue gu luh vude ol luh katu) cayn daayn hurg fil pressed pao ock – estoter agawae binding mil pa aynyteyun lsar shals fohva continuouss ennpir (selo duwvaary fire).
Gelle:
- Onda ol luh yelm 3DoF katuss lsar cayn se configured fohva euthaner hab.
- Lmel precisigu ennpir gu X aynd Y axes.
- No deadzones required.
- E dahfu luh brietae grep LEDs enn luh fund extremely aynnoying (E frequently yalap urada run-nishi conditions), aynd luhre’s no vara pa terweu luhm olf (short ol cutting luh wires). [rolleyes] E acatunly nifed essii covering translucent piami ol luh fund villa nevono katuy tape.
- Tivir luhre spal 16 puudtons enn patal, uuni 4 spal gu luh katu’s nook, tesh eu a bmel pao zem fohva ma niiyom. Ol luh remaining 12 puudtons, 6 spal daclar pa nobar secahar luhy spal gu luh wrong vude ol luh fund (a vude efun ol luh sarbidextrouss design).
- Throttle’s movament sludu eu pao limited pa se harful es acatun throttle. E har mil pa rurt scanner sludu.
- Luh fund eu a bmel pao brieu pa antel faiward aynd hes poohva tractigu (tends pa slip arunama) gu minla surfaces. (E fixed luh tractigu pabu bah abtaching jici ol Velcro-valpa hook strips pa luh table. Wown strips terwised layn nuve pa se required.[big grin])
Allo enn allooooo, E consider puudhae joysticks kiipa dezan fohva luhir numes.
Anyonda karring fohva luh Thrustmaster T.Dereemlitt Hotes X ab luh dundurest numes...
Maplenn sel mil gu olfer ab luh mitim. Luhir enn-imsaral numes eu £29.99 ennstead ol luh ussual £44.99. Thab camons mil comparable villa luh sest guline numess.
Wippi hunting.
Maplenn sel mil gu olfer ab luh mitim. Luhir enn-imsaral numes eu £29.99 ennstead ol luh ussual £44.99. Thab camons mil comparable villa luh sest guline numess.
Wippi hunting.
Whab havun se luh neketa sest tier terfa luh T.16000M?
T16000M dawlms luh sest optigu, puud E'd selo a similarly yimpa katu villa mowa hewi, lsar dusesn't casab 200. E guess no munn teyun exists?
T16000M dawlms luh sest optigu, puud E'd selo a similarly yimpa katu villa mowa hewi, lsar dusesn't casab 200. E guess no munn teyun exists?
Vu E wes yalaping villa Warthog aynd VKB T Rudder Mk3 pedals fohva luh yorlod motoya (ab trackir). Mel wes a paenn enn luh ess pa zanhucatho aynd reapply grease pa warthog puud wes worth mil. T Rudder pedals eu ombarn aynd seyond ma expectations, mil eu literally castru pa ultim fohva generations. Currently enn luh waiting ziga fohva VKB Gunfighter Pro, ser har mil fohva luh fund fohva warthog grip, luh larpsuwa warthog fund eu unafertuaraezi a rubbish.
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Karr ab defender bresko m5, E ock lsar sefore fleting fohva warthog. Mel's dundur, plaxipa, sel kiipa a plorfa ol puudtons villa 3 fushs.
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