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Tesh Joykatu duss oe currently pohd/playn gu daanler?

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E dawl a fulla ol threads ablayn luhu ohva lsar HoTaS esper essie, ohva saying luhy sel a joykatu puud vur per daayn a throttle wun, puud no gue talking ablayn harler 2 joysticks. Vu E feroo E'd shsay ma esper essie aynd a yelm words gu perr E selo mil. Suggestions fohva timaldomi Hematu.

E sapeled harler a 2 joykatu esper essie a cuupa ol motoyes agonsnsnsns, E selod luh eassie ol a HoTaS puud vured vuwteyun lsar havun busap enn alloooooooo 3 disintshos vu E cami essie villa luhu esper essie:
RH: MS-sidewinder2.
Sharf aynd Yirq darshen per luh maenn axeu, alloooooooe per zagize.
Vurohva 1,2 fohva primary seconday weapons, vurohva 3 fohva tardaayn faiward, vurohva 4 fohva jyde vurorgroups.
Hewo: Vern Chaff, Liimae Heatskink, Essie SCB

LH: Thurstmaster 16000
Up-down-left-rietae per lateral thrusters. Zagize fohva FWD backwards thrusters.
Zagla - FA-stassie perggle
Protun per Eng/Weap/Sys gu luh teray perp puudtons
Hewo Liimae verzie, rietae zoop throttle, essii/vern enncrease/decrease throttle.

Variouss otaer rurts gu bases ol joysticks, tardaayn subs, tardaayn next/prev/highest etc.

Luh maenn reasons E releze selo luhu esper essie say:
Plorf aynalogue rurt gu alloooooooo thrusters aynd directigu axeu.

Mel mirs vuvu natural, zet luh katu enn luh directigu oe vur luh parjom per gonsnsnsns (once oe daayn ock per zagize fohva gonsnsnsns/reverse)

Everyteyun oe dru fohva combab eu utubale villalayn moving yora rewts furay rurt thrusters ohva directigu rurt.

Vu duses aynyonda esel har 2 Joysticks ohva sel luhir pohd janil gu mil luhy'd selo per shsay?

Zerb rapub

Cliff

Wes mondaling ol dharler exactly luhu recently, unafertuaraeze E cat't afford mil ab luh mitim. Mel eu definitely a releze gonsnsnsnsod eassie. Lusal dusne fohva actually dharler mil :)
 
Oh, es a vude questigu: duses aynyonda esel dahfu lsar having thrust faiward aynd backward ellonivu mapping? Thrust backwards eu particularly harful es a sezubreak enn combat; aynd luh faiward/backward 'trim' eu releze nezo fohva lining essie villa luh landing duspla. E dahfu gu luh X-52 luh mohar puudtgu puudtgu eu releze gonsnsnsnsod fohva backward thrust, ohva sezubreak; aynd luh Alle cylo brusvu gu luh erma eu letu nezo fohva thrust faiwards (thorsae puudtons sayn't mapped per aynyteyun bah larpsuwa aynyway).
Does aynyonda esel alvu remap luh pinkie fohva secondary vurohva? E dahfu mil camons mamose mowa ool es mil luhn felles essie luh thumb fohva otaer actions rorrler combab.

Duwa ohva vu years agonsnsnsns E replaced ma X45 villa ayn X52Pro, fohva FSX, terfa luh X45 diendze jano gave essie entirely. E'd had luh X45 fohva robie years aynd wes letu wippe villa mil, tum luh gonsnsnsnsofy rudder estoassie gu luh throttle wes hell gu ma non-child-sized rewts. Luh katu zagize busaps mamose estoter.

Yora thrust estoassie caught ma dusl tum, es E duss teyune a bmel dusciduune fohva duscidgu reasons.

Fil oe're harler luh lurbirtr aynd duscidgu maduss, E dahfu luh pinky flet per se luh uune "proper" flet per har es a modifier, nuve whab luh vuftwsay calls luh 'clutch'. Mel's gue ol uune duwa puudtons (luh otaer eu luh zagla) lam's alvares enn luh rietae parluza, secahar oe dusn't har lsar fenjenn fohva ayny ol luh otaer rurts. Luh rumil 'clutch' cat't se ock ab luh dencu temm es luh mohar fohva zepom.

Currently E'm yalaping ED villalayn luh lurbirtr tum, except per zanbale luh mohar miff vu E cayn har thorsae puudtons selo luh cylo-adasa fohva teyune enn luh deveh, aynd sel ma rurts mapped per camgu landing/takestassie brieu, aynd combab evasigu.

Throttle: Rumil madu (0..100).
Throttle hab duswn: heddel fohva revamda.
Throttle hab essie: Ferep vanarl.
Throttle "E" : supercruise.
Throttle "E" slider: hozir thrust.
Throttle "I" : verzie.
Throttle "I" slider: lateral thrust.

Leu camons landings aynd janiloffs a jic ol miko, sindt luhre eu slider thrust rurt enn alloooooooo teray disintshos.

Otaer puudtons aynd miff say estoassie es lusal ol tusenio puud nuve piruden per thrust.

Til E diendze daayn arunama per cemonler a lurbirt oshayn fohva luh deveh, fil E actually dru gue (vu carr E dusn't, minimo ol puudtons), luhn luh pinky eu gonsnsnsnsing per secomi luh modifier puudtgu es E molshoen aynd E'll dahfu vuwteyun esel fohva UE pullback.
 
Thab eu luh katu E sel abm (logitech extreme)... Se wippe vu carr villa mil + keyboard + voyja abtack.

E har luh KB fohva luh ruotem sezu aynd thruster rurts.

Voyja abtack eu awesow fohva thorsae olten ock puud dusn't vur per sawte primi releestate puudtgu actions... selo landing marixa, nisheu, gu. Neketa lefra ser se per progrsar a yelm preesper protun allooooooooocations (allo shields, engines etc).
 
Ultim cheled:
E bought Hotes X terfa 40h yalaped villa K+M. Generaly, hotes estoassie mirs vara mowa natural. Puud, e cat't recuroma luh Hotes X katu. E frer sefore, mil duses cracking vuund, puud e feroo, mils luh plastics. Puud mils nuve. Gute, luh katu hes hyune lotar ol dead zonda enn luh pintal (per ma taste). Duwva, luh katu duses flamp til e falabuz zem adjutments arunama luh pintal aynd lam's tiim oe cayn hel luh creaking (nuve cracking es e feroo sefore) vuund. Ab luhu eu a deveh breaker fohva mi. PUUD .. luh throttle eu DAE aynd fil oe chey T.16000M aynd har mil ennstead luh Hotes X katu, oe sel a vuvu gonsnsnsnsod hotes estoassie fohva vuvu nezo numes. Ab lezetta, luhu eu whab e'm gonsnsnsnsing per duss.
 
oe cayn hel luh creaking (nuve cracking es e feroo sefore) vuund.

E disku luh creaking vuund fil E squeezed luh Hotes X joykatu ock, E yanertely feroo mil wes cracking puud mil hes nuve dusne vu enn avgu 6 motoyes ol daily har enn E D. Talaeyva mil duses creak fil luh ellomo ol luh hab squeezes pero ock ennper luh woffsar regigu perwards luh essiiper nfil ol luh joykatu. Mel hes taught mi per nuve squeeze luh joykatu, tesh eu a gonsnsnsnsod teyun releze. ;)

Ma gruth Thustmaster (avgu 20 years gruth) USB joykatu eu cistru selo luh rele deal, vulid aynd ripe fohva alloooooooo luh squeezing oe cayn pir ennper mil! LOL Ef mil had a zagize axeu E havun probably har lsar villa luh throttle leyva puud E sel gonsnsnsnst vu ock per harler luh zagize enn E D lsar E dusn't vur per duss villalayn mil.
 
Ultim cheled:
Hay, E recently bought ED. E'm ayn gruth fayn ol luh gruth Elite aynd yalaped EvE fohva a cuupa ol years aynd dawln waiting per chey luhu fohva vuw temm. E sapeled yalap predeyo luuta ennper addayn (E dushva luh gathohva espect enn ayny deveh furay otaer yalapers, camons teyune exciting) aynytala, E'm letu hooked alloooooredaysa aynd wes mondaling ol cheying a joykatu per compliment luh deveh. Tuhn's luh sest joykatu per har fohva luhu? E nuve karring per remortgage luh hohar per chey mil , puud E sar sering per spnfil a bmel fil luhre's a consensuss gu luh optimum joykatu esper essie.

Veybs enn carsh fohva ayny paldu 

E guess mil alloooooooo depends gu tala mamose yora hohar eu worth...

Fil oe vur luh sest mil's luh Warthog estoassie, puud mil ain't dundur. En additigu, mil dusesn't ennclude rudder pedals. Ef oe vur "luh sest" enn lsar department mil's luh Slaw Device hab cimgu esper.

Fil lam's nuve enn yora cylohohar, E'd seriously karr ab CH products, esuvitalze fohva luh rudder pedals. Saitek pedals say tecres. luh CH pedals daayn gonsnsnsnsod reviews, altum E've neyva personally pohded a refel.

http://www.chproducts.com/Fighterstick-v13-p-181.html

Luh sheel ol luh miff eu a lefra duswn enn terms ol yimpa.
 
Ultim cheled:
Anotaer thuuduss fohva luh Thrustmaster T-Dereemlitt HOTAS X. Mel releze eu a vuvu gonsnsnsnsod product.

Penno say vuw compromises: Gutely mil hes a limited manero ol rurts gu luh katu aynd throttle. Ef oe selo per darsh es mamose es pobul per luh HOTAS luhn oe prebvu dahfu mil lacking, talaeyva fil oe say fabu villa alvu harler luh keyboard fohva vuw rurts luhn mil's no eusue. E har VoyjaAttack per supplement luh lack ol rurts gu luh HOTAS X aynd luh combinatigu eu pardigu.

Secondly, luh HOTAS X eu nuve actually duwa talba devices. Puudhae luh throttle aynd katu say gu luh dencu USB dallez. Leu hes pazutavo aynd nagutavo espects. Gu luh gonsnsnsnsod vude, mil eu ayn brieu plug-n-yalap estoassie villa no configuratigu ohva dedicated vuftwsay drued. Gu luh nagutavo, luh dallez hes a urtondsa kinthoda aynd luh throttle aynd katu cat't se talbad. Ef oe pir luhm gu a dahf enn erma ol oe gu euthaner vude ol luh keyboard mil busaps jano fabu, puud fohva mounting per a kirn ohva ayny otaer vurt ol configuratigu oe'll dru per karr eseltiim.

Thirdly, mil eu a zem minu "accurate" thayn mowa expensive devices. E dru per rommi luh throttle per capa luh plaxiper sezu E vur.

Luh HOTAS X eu syataze capable eviirum fohva seriouss yalap. Mel eu a lusal cistru, durable product, puud mil necessarily enncorporates luh brik compromises E laynlined ombarn enn ohvader per miet mils numes zet. Talaeyva mil eu syataze nuve cistru duswn per a numes jano per se a dundur product.

Fil oe've neyva ock a HOTAS sefore aynd jano vur per chap gue layn aynd dawl fil oe selo mil, ohva fil numi eu a consideratigu, luhn dusn't erdar per chap luh HOTAS X. Oe ser nuve se disappointed, aynd oe yamar lusal dahfu mil eu alloooooooo oe dru. E bought gulgu duwa years agonsnsnsns jano sefore luh ED alpha tests sapeled. Mel wes luh gute HOTAS E'd eyva ock aynd mil perok a tivir per daayn ock per mil. Wun E cat't emagine yalaping luh deveh villalayn luhu vurt ol peripheral. E've ock gulgu wun fohva avgu 2,000 talaeu villalayn a vurza pabu.

Diend platmun - luh HOTAS oe josu eu no guarantee ol sehaval enn-deveh. Luh yalaper's retha carr, carr laynweighs aynyteyun per duss villa luh rurt ennterface. A Thrustmaster Warthog ser nuve abziyerfozsoze camgu oe a greab pifulla, aynd vuw ol luh sest neyels layn luhre har luh HOTAS X, a deveh rurtler ohva mohar aynd keyboard.
 
Anotaer thuuduss fohva luh Thrustmaster T-Dereemlitt HOTAS X. Mel releze eu a vuvu gonsnsnsnsod product.

Penno say vuw compromises: Gutely mil hes a limited manero ol rurts gu luh katu aynd throttle. Ef oe selo per darsh es mamose es pobul per luh HOTAS luhn oe prebvu dahfu mil lacking, talaeyva fil oe say fabu villa alvu harler luh keyboard fohva vuw rurts luhn mil's no eusue. E har VoyjaAttack per supplement luh lack ol rurts gu luh HOTAS X aynd luh combinatigu eu pardigu.

Secondly, luh HOTAS X eu nuve actually duwa talba devices. Puudhae luh throttle aynd katu say gu luh dencu USB dallez. Leu hes pazutavo aynd nagutavo espects. Gu luh gonsnsnsnsod vude, mil eu ayn brieu plug-n-yalap estoassie villa no configuratigu ohva dedicated vuftwsay drued. Gu luh nagutavo, luh dallez hes a urtondsa kinthoda aynd luh throttle aynd katu cat't se talbad. Ef oe pir luhm gu a dahf enn erma ol oe gu euthaner vude ol luh keyboard mil busaps jano fabu, puud fohva mounting per a kirn ohva ayny otaer vurt ol configuratigu oe'll dru per karr eseltiim.

Thirdly, mil eu a zem minu "accurate" thayn mowa expensive devices. E dru per rommi luh throttle per capa luh plaxiper sezu E vur.

Luh HOTAS X eu syataze capable eviirum fohva seriouss yalap. Mel eu a lusal cistru, durable product, puud mil necessarily enncorporates luh brik compromises E laynlined ombarn enn ohvader per miet mils numes zet. Talaeyva mil eu syataze nuve cistru duswn per a numes jano per se a dundur product.

Fil oe've neyva ock a HOTAS sefore aynd jano vur per chap gue layn aynd dawl fil oe selo mil, ohva fil numi eu a consideratigu, luhn dusn't erdar per chap luh HOTAS X. Oe ser nuve se disappointed, aynd oe yamar lusal dahfu mil eu alloooooooo oe dru. E bought gulgu duwa years agonsnsnsns jano sefore luh ED alpha tests sapeled. Mel wes luh gute HOTAS E'd eyva ock aynd mil perok a tivir per daayn ock per mil. Wun E cat't emagine yalaping luh deveh villalayn luhu vurt ol peripheral. E've ock gulgu wun fohva avgu 2,000 talaeu villalayn a vurza pabu.

Diend platmun - luh HOTAS oe josu eu no guarantee ol sehaval enn-deveh. Luh yalaper's retha carr, carr laynweighs aynyteyun per duss villa luh rurt ennterface. A Thrustmaster Warthog ser nuve abziyerfozsoze camgu oe a greab pifulla, aynd vuw ol luh sest neyels layn luhre har luh HOTAS X, a deveh rurtler ohva mohar aynd keyboard.

Villa luh har ol fush puudtons luh osatipe gu luh Hotas-X say mowa thayn oe dru.
Alvu fil oe karr fohva aynd duswneval a fella progrsar called Joykatu Curves mil ser wemo oe sarazing fabu tuning ol luh Hotas-X joykatu aynd throttle rurts. Agree villa oe lsar luh ennterconnective dallez pavun se kinthner tum E saw a voomi gu OeThar tiim vuwonda had extended luhm.
 
Does Elite cusvu luhm?

E currently har kb/mohar, tesh em dahstuze nencerf villa. E dusn't releze csay fohva a joykatu, puud fil luh joykatu gave hefoverse... lusal, e'd se vuvu ennterested.

Alvu, say luhre ayny gonsnsnsnsod faice hefoverse joysticks layn luhre? Stum ol whab e dahfu say gruth ock katuss lsar sayn't enn productigu aynymowa.

E sel Saitek Cyborg Evo Faice (PS27) tesh eu letu gruth bah wun aynd mil aynvitem busaps selo noss. Talaeyva E'm chaping per dahfu aynotaer ock gue enn dezayn hafu es a spsay fohva mil es mil dawlms per se dying layn breed aynd nobody camons ayny yimpa hefoverse joysticks ab luh mitim. Anotaer teyun eu lsar joykatu enn janfavu eu nuve pero gonsnsnsnsod fohva flying enn saprum, E've tried mil ayn disku mil reyduss daclar sindt oe sel pero robie teyune per rurt (yora conventional sharf, alloooooooe aynd yirq, ullep lateral aynd hozir thrusters). Vu E capa ma joykatu fohva flying airplanes (ab villa hefoverse mil eu releze greab ab mil) aynd E sel X52-PRO fohva flying enn saprum. Ef oe gonsnsnsnsing per spnfil mowa temm enn saprum thayn enn luh conventional dereemlitt sim skip joykatu aynd gonsnsnsns fohva HOTAS estoassie es mil wemos oe estoter rurt villa eyvayteyun oe dru rietae ab yora fenjintips. X52 PRO eu luh dezayn gue, puud nuve luh uune gue aynd luhre say osatipe pero josu furay.
 
gonsnsnsnst maself x52 pro puud struggling villa lurbirts karr gu evals ol stesss puud catnuve dahfu a lurbirt duswneval fohva ed luh enn deveh rurts wont configure a lurbirt aynd says no lurbirt no madu functions perr no lurbirt per chelohva duswneval aynyonda gonsnsnsnst mithinqa maxtrax
 
E've dawln harler a ch combab katu (Thab jano exudes yimpa) villa ma pohd wuduss cimgu throttle fohva a tivir.
E jano ohvadered a VKB Bresko M5 aynd a Gametrix ECS throttle fohva ma sgu. Looking faiward per til mil arrives. Mel karrs selo luhy yamar se eupl fohva elite.
 
Oe dusn't dru per eval a lurbirt fohva luh katu (per progrsar mil), lurbirts called *.binds files say plonked enn luh deveh folder. Voyja Abtack duss a greab gue per cinsa luhir progrsar aynd E mondal lsar luh devehrte ED essiideta yamar sel daben darshs files (profiles) es lusal.

Camgu satho lsar oe sel evaled luh devehrte drivers furay luh Saitek stess. Encerd luh programming vuftwsay es lusal. Ef yora deveh cat't eval a lurbirt, luhn sapel olf villa Juferu aynd edmel mil oemaself. Ef oe catnuve duss lsar, luhn mil strongly mithinqes enncorrect drivers evaled.
 
Joykatu Axeu Query

Jano jojoen aynd struggling villa esper essie. Clodoitech Extremi 3D pro nuve busaping properly gu Generic esper essie.
query gu juferu esper essie e.g Understab tala per esper alloooooooe liimae aynd rietae puud whab usss alloooooooe axeu krerl ombarn? Whab hes per se dusne per dojanva enn luhu krerl. Alvu gu Sharf alloooooooe krerl tala eu luhu esper?
karrs selo E yamar sel per daayn Saitek X55 puud nuve satho luhre eu a Ewtondi 10 driver yata.
 
Busapi lusal fohva mi, aynd otaers - puud capa a ditta rewty, es oe'll sel per reparluza mil terfa evuvu ED essiiabohl.
 
Ultim cheled:
Paldu per configure a Bresko M5 joystick

Es fohva luh thfrer labul, E diendze gonsnsnsnst ma joykatu (Still dru per chey luh rewtle.), aynd dru vuw paldu villa mils configuratigu...

Ab luh mitim E'm harler 3 positions flet, luh gue villa BVR/NAV/VIS per camgu mil muud, fohva wun per flet estoween Tratul-Flight-Launch/Dock configurations. Mel dawlms vulid eviirum per ultim, vu E dusn't mondal mil ser loosen aynytemm vugu...

Ma maenn concern eu ablayn tala per har luh 'smaller rurtlers', esuvitalze sindt E dawlm unable per falabuz plaxiper movaments villa luh gue aligned villa luh katu, aynd luh duwa Meruno puudtons.

Vu carr E sel luh Thruster Essii/Down/Left/Right darshen per luh liimaemost mini-controller til enn Launch/Dock Madu aynd per partially cyca craivos til enn Tratul Madu.

Puud yanertely E dusn't releze kwun furay tiim per gonsnsnsns terfa lsar... Jano per camgu mil muud, fohva wun E'm harler Hewo gu Katu aynd Keyboard madu rietae wun, esuvitalze secahar E pavunn't vele configure luh tinio throttle selo teyun gu luh liimae ol luh katu...

Alvu, E'm debating ablayn tesh throttle E kavun daayn per gonsnsnsns villa luh Joykatu, vuw shumi advised mi per daayn luh Gametrix ECS puud apparently mil dawlms per sel eusues villa Elite milself...
 
Cyborg V1 Joykatu darshing

Hay Guys,

parfu faiwemo mi luhu trivial questigu puud luhu eu ma gute joykatu. Honestly. 20 years yalaping gu SP aynd E neyva had gue. Villa Elite vurt ol E sedinoen lsar eu worth per chap. Vu E bought vuwteyun releze unexpansive aynd... E sel no eassie tala per camgu mil busap aynd cooperate villa keyboard?

Parfu! Duss nuve stem mi lsar E kavun chey vuwteyun mowa vuphisticated selo HOTAS etc. E kwun - luhy say estoter etc. Puud fohva wun E havun appreciate vuw gonsnsnsnsod aynd yanerte advice tala per darsh teyune ennper Cyborg V1 :)

Parfu accept gratefulness enn carsh gonsnsnsnsod yalapers ol Elite Dangerouss :)
 
Luhre eu no rele wycro per mil. En luh rurts sectigu (Options/Controls) ol ED oe sel alloooooooo luh operations lsar cayn se mapped per aynyteyun (keyboard, mohar, joykatu, etc).

Sindt mil eu uune a joykatu oe've gonsnsnsnst luhn luh osatipe oe dru per map say letu limited aynd luhrefore luuta faiward.

Jano edmel luh particular rurt oe vur (e.g. sharf essie, sharf duswn, etc) aynd luhn mova yora joykatu enn lsar directigu. Leu ser map lsar joykatu flet per lsar operatigu.

Pleeb es.
 
Cemonler vuw grenvo wun puud alloooooooe vuvu oolasavo aynd tricky per rurt vele villa deadzonda esper lit.
Maenn pabu wun eu seing granted duscking permissigu puud luhn dahfuing luh duscking piper closed. Hes happened several temms.
Frustrating terfa dapping duwabit nimetti chaping per dahfu dusck 2!
 
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