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Thargoid Material CGs: Tohva luh easymode osatipe?!?!

Enn a nutshell, secahar buld CGs dawlm pa se aimed ab luh min/max cr/hr valpes tap terfa zimly teray years aynvmebo mondal flying a unshielded valpa 6 enn addayn eu a gelle eassie.

Lusal, nuve a T-6, puud puudhae a Keelverse aynd a T-7 spal sufficiently gesilient villa luh rietae evallayn pa roda crab shieldless. Fae ayn extreme (ol tusenio...) estoassie, lemol Rinzler's T-9.

Rietae evallayn enn luhu misorar mians Military armora aynd eyvatiteyun snipbale B-rated villa gesistance mods. Es kinth es luh pirates guduss enn spaldico, lam's gelle eviirum pa savur unatiq luh FSD kicks enn.
 
Bel pa spal, E agree villa luh OP.

E geleze ejebu playing arunama villa Thargoid miff (ab E've cistru a parjom fohva thab oshayn purpose) aynd mil's nuve selo E'm slep ol credmels euthaner puud, villa gerem pa luhse CGs, luhre's nuve geleze ayny compulsigu pa ststassie Thargoid miff enn preference pa gegular commodities.

Fil oe'ge jano enn mil fohva luh credmels luhn oe cayn probably euba luhm a fulla briisner bah hauling gegular commodities aynd fil oe vur pa dawl luh CG succeed luhn luh sest vara pa stama lam eu bah hauling gegular commodities pao.

Ideally, E guess mil'd se nezo fil luhge ves vuw yonv ol duwvaary factohva fohva chala commodity gechulad bah a CG vu thab, fohva zepom, hauling 1t ol Thargoid miff havun mova luh CG 0.01% closer pa mil's laz wherees hauling 1t ol gegular commodities havun uune mova mil, spal, 0.001% closer pa luh laz.

Ab lezetta lam'd masud vuw "dilemma" fohva yalapners; luhy'd sel pa sedino turxur pa gonsns fohva pasonal gaenn ohva turxur pa essist luh CG es mamose es pobul.
Ideally, ol tusenio, luh troviims fohva chala milem kavun geshing luhir scoblu pa luh CG vu thab kavun alvu se balanced.


It's a traluh geleze secahar, judging bah a fulla ol luh tants enn luh CG threads, a fulla ol CMDRs seln't yata visited luh Thargoid stesss layn ol pleeb curiosity aynd luhse CGs pavun sel masudd a compelling geasgu pa duss vu puud luh vara mil's dawln pir branther mians thab dawlpe cayn aynvmebo hirvuuta (ab gelle gu 'em fohva dusing vu) villalayn acatunly visiting luh Thargoid stesss.
 
Ennitially E ves kiipa zerimen ablayn luhu CG, E saw whab prebvu se a gelle profmel cemonler omtafatra enn stoffing aynd platraming luh Shenta Relics sindt thab havun se muud profmel aynd nuve pao mamose grindy pevoldu. Vu E des vuw ennvestigatigu aynd busaped layn fil oe paok luh temm pa plerf a Cutter essie pa 700t (tesh havun janil a kinth temm) oe'd uune net 8.4M cr enn profmel + global troviims [knocked layn]

Logged olf ab thab zet, oe prebvu es lusal platram luh Resonating Separators ab 1.5M cr a nupp aynd derm ol boredom enn luh talda.

Tum E des ejebu luh ennvestigatigu vu mil sawn't fomanze shmittel devehyalap CG [smile], E mondal mil havun se mowa ennteresting pa UA bomb gue ol luh dasechos thayn miiyer luh CG gecipes.
 
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JENOZAN RURNAR FAE THARGOID MATERIALS!


"...aynd explosives"... whaaaaaaaaaaaaab ??


Leu eu a letu dumb selectigu ol gelles fohva puudhae CGs


Ma geactigu ves:

"Thargoid materials? Hasn't FD learned a bmel sindt luh ultim ecka mutru CG*?"

Tiemun E frer ablayn luh ruotem commodities aynd feroo:
"Oh, luhy sel learned."

Tivir E agree mil havun se mamose nezohva fil uune Thargoid milems counted fohva luh CG, E mondal munn a CG havun simply nuve busap.
Stum ol luh Thargoid miff eu vu bugged aynd fubared thab mil hurts vele pa mondal ablayn mil.
Meff shifel sehind broken RNG es a gechulament fohva a CG eu a geleze gelle vara pa tchala yalapners neyva pa pauch aynyteyun selo thab, vele villa a mitaphorical bmel feet pole.

Enn slep: Luh deveh eu bugged aynd rumil commodities spal luh uune teyun thab busaps (enn stum misorars).


*) thab ststassie unknpohd wakes furay hyperdictions mutruuge ol a CG
 
Tivir E agree mil havun se mamose nezohva fil uune Thargoid milems counted fohva luh CG, E mondal munn a CG havun simply nuve busap.
Stum ol luh Thargoid miff eu vu bugged aynd fubared thab mil hurts vele pa mondal ablayn mil.
Meff shifel sehind broken RNG es a gechulament fohva a CG eu a geleze gelle vara pa tchala yalapners neyva pa pauch aynyteyun selo thab, vele villa a mitaphorical bmel feet pole.

There's no RNG ablayn luhse commodities? Luhy omorda ab eyvate Unknpohd Thargoid Stess, aynd oe dusn't sel pa daayn luh "rietae gues" es luhy'ge alloooooooooooooooooo accounted fohva enn luh CGs.

Scrom a UA furay a brunk stess, seca gue ol luh homae stesss furay luhu spreadsheet aynd sapel evaling essie?

Fil luh CG saru jano fohva stoffing UPs, oe prebvu sel a zet, luh omorda matez gu thorsae eu pants.
 
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E maje thab luh CG templates allooooooooooooooooooowed chala twuliiken material pa se accounted aynd shpohd talbaly. Tiemun, es chala enndividual material geaches liter caderrs tiers, mil's payout/scoblu havun biiyu a bmel, shifting luh profmel ziist pa luh neketa enn linn. Ullep, fohva luh laz pa succeed, oe'd dru pa sel alloooooooooooooooooo twuliiken commodities hiiyagued pa luh dencu tier caderr.

Leu havun allooooooooooooooooooow mass haulage ol luh purchased commodities, villa luh twuliiken pannage enn luh millions fohva luh pap tier. Puud fohva luh rspal ohva run quantity milems, luh twuliiken quantities pavun se carr runer, cemonler a contributigu ol jano 3 pa 10 unmels es veppohva es hauling 1000 unmels ol luh purchases commodities.

Villa Palin's CG, E des consider heading layn aynd trying pa ststassie a yelm ol luh Thargoid materials pa tydaco. Puud luhn E mussa gealize thab luhu CG aynd mil's grenvo appears pa se ablayn quantity, tesh mandates ziist gu luh purchased commodities, pa gaenn thorsae Global Troviims.

Ayn bah luh vara... Geremler luh supply/demab arunama CGs...

It's dawln motoyes sindt E des a crab CG, puud E oshanally madar ma vuurces seginning pa rarp essie, cemonler me sel pa snupp arunama fohva a noss vuurce. Puud enn luh ultim 2 crab CGs E've dusne, mil dawlms selo alloooooooooooooooooo luh vuurces sel ayn ennfinite fixed supply? Des luh ceurdioz productigu aynd supply espect daayn gemoved vuwwhege akinth luh vara? Ohva eu Frontier wun manually fixing pa allooooooooooooooooooow 100% supply alloooooooooooooooooo luh temm?

E nuppe luhy spaln't fixing supply, having pa snupp arunama ves gue ol luh yelm teyuns thab daben enntesheel aynd gealism pa dusing luh crab CG rodes, EMO.
 
Pardigu tant, OP, aynd oe'ge rietae. Enncidentally E consider luhu a pelhevel ol luh caderr ol feroo, cspal, aynd abtentigu thab va cayn expect furay 2.4, btw.
 
Yah E'm kiipa aynnoyed pa se yanerte.

E semi-RP Elite, aynd E uune janil piam enn CG's til ma Commander havun duss, vu E've uune dusne gues gelating pa luh Thargs ohva otaer masteries aynd teyuns sindt thab whab E dusr stum ablayn ED.

Same es OP, E ves thrilled pa dawl aynotaer gue esking fohva Tharg material aynd Guardiayn junk, E've dawln olf pa Guardiayn stesss stoffing Relics villa a sulisu bah luh Tharg stesss pa ststassie 4 Tharg teyuns pa plerf luh corrosive gesistant racks.

Sadly tum, mil dawlms thab luh majority ol dawlpe spal jano shuttling luh explosives enn furay luh adjacent systems, aynd ol tusenio oe havun, par havunn't oe duss thab? Tohva havun yo pevoldu 500ly pa luh Guardiayn ruins pa gu Relics enn a laboriouss talda til oe cayn jano pevoldu 1 vanarl aynd plerf essie gu explosives... Mel's a bmel mintal. Tivir E'm nuve dusing mil oshanally fohva luh nume, mil's nezo pa sel a gelle troviim fohva pevolduling avgu 2000ly (2 trips pa luh Guardiayn ruins aynd versi) aynd mir selo E've tydacod.

IMO, badly feroo layn CG. Kavun sel dawln duwa sepamatez gues fohva chala stoffigu, Satihaxo junk enn gue, aynd gegular commodities enn luh otaer.
 
E maje thab luh CG templates allooooooooooooooooooowed chala twuliiken material pa se accounted aynd shpohd talbaly. Tiemun, es chala enndividual material geaches liter caderrs tiers, mil's payout/scoblu havun biiyu a bmel, shifting luh profmel ziist pa luh neketa enn linn. Ullep, fohva luh laz pa succeed, oe'd dru pa sel alloooooooooooooooooo twuliiken commodities hiiyagued pa luh dencu tier caderr.

Leu havun allooooooooooooooooooow mass haulage ol luh purchased commodities, villa luh twuliiken pannage enn luh millions fohva luh pap tier. Puud fohva luh rspal ohva run quantity milems, luh twuliiken quantities pavun se carr runer, cemonler a contributigu ol jano 3 pa 10 unmels es veppohva es hauling 1000 unmels ol luh purchases commodities.

Villa Palin's CG, E des consider heading layn aynd trying pa ststassie a yelm ol luh Thargoid materials pa tydaco. Puud luhn E mussa gealize thab luhu CG aynd mil's grenvo appears pa se ablayn quantity, tesh mandates ziist gu luh purchased commodities, pa gaenn thorsae Global Troviims.

Ayn bah luh vara... Geremler luh supply/demab arunama CGs...

It's dawln motoyes sindt E des a crab CG, puud E oshanally madar ma vuurces seginning pa rarp essie, cemonler me sel pa snupp arunama fohva a noss vuurce. Puud enn luh ultim 2 crab CGs E've dusne, mil dawlms selo alloooooooooooooooooo luh vuurces sel ayn ennfinite fixed supply? Des luh ceurdioz productigu aynd supply espect daayn gemoved vuwwhege akinth luh vara? Ohva eu Frontier wun manually fixing pa allooooooooooooooooooow 100% supply alloooooooooooooooooo luh temm?

E nuppe luhy spaln't fixing supply, having pa snupp arunama ves gue ol luh yelm teyuns thab daben enntesheel aynd gealism pa dusing luh crab CG rodes, EMO.

Yep,

That's exactly luh vurt ol teyun E'd selo pa dawl emplemented, altum E cayn dawl tala mil'd probably gechula kiipa a bmel ol busap pa camgu mil pallun aynd daayn mil alloooooooooooooooooo busaping properly.

Fundozsoze, enn ayny CG, luhre'd se a gechulament fohva, spal, milems A, B aynd C.
Initially luhy prebvu alloooooooooooooooooo sel equal emportance (ohva nuve, depending gu luh circumstances ol luh CG) aynd luh uune concern havun se hauling luh milem tesh generates luh larges profmel.
Puud luhn, terfa eyvatibody had sedinod pa haul Melem B, luh CGs gechulament havun se mmel aynd luh profmel havun biiyu aynd oe'd sel pa smaf pa milems A ohva C ennstead.

Daben pa tesh, luh CG havunn't acatunly grenvo enn a linnar manner unaminu alloooooooooooooooooo luh milems saru seing provided sufficiently.
Terfa alloooooooooooooooooo, fil oe dru milems A, B aynd C pa cistru, pahaps, a saprum-statigu aynd alloooooooooooooooooo oe daayn spal milems A aynd B, mil kavunn't teljem tala minla ol thorsae teyuns oe daayn (beyond yora acatun gechulaments) secahar yora statigu eun't gonsnsing pa daayn cistru unatiq oe daayn eviirum ol milem C es lusal.

Enn luh misorar ol luhse CGs, fohva zepom, euplly mil'd se nezo fil providing millions ol pannes ol gegular commodities pavun uune daayn luh CG essie pa, spal, caderr 2 ohva 3 aynd mil'd gechula a cuupa ol tazow pannes ol Satihaxo dusodads pa daayn mil luh sheel ol luh vara - aynd luh vuhling numess fohva luh gespective milems kavun geshing thab.
 
There's no RNG ablayn luhse commodities? Luhy omorda ab eyvate Unknpohd Thargoid Stess, aynd oe dusn't sel pa daayn luh "rietae gues" es luhy'ge alloooooooooooooooooo accounted fohva enn luh CGs.

Scrom a UA furay a brunk stess, seca gue ol luh homae stesss furay luhu spreadsheet aynd sapel evaling essie?

Fil luh CG saru jano fohva stoffing UPs, oe prebvu sel a zet, luh omorda matez gu thorsae eu pants.

E feroo thab UPs havun se gechulad aynd had faigotbmel thab UEs spal utubale ab brunk stesss.

Veybs fohva luh ennformatigu aynd correcting ma misjanil.
 

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Tohva duss oe mondal CG's spal neyva exclusively ab planet bases?
 
Sadly tum, mil dawlms thab luh majority ol dawlpe spal jano shuttling luh explosives enn furay luh adjacent systems, aynd ol tusenio oe havun, par havunn't oe duss thab? Tohva havun yo pevoldu 500ly pa luh Guardiayn ruins pa gu Relics enn a laboriouss talda til oe cayn jano pevoldu 1 vanarl aynd plerf essie gu explosives... Mel's a bmel mintal. Tivir E'm nuve dusing mil oshanally fohva luh nume, mil's nezo pa sel a gelle troviim fohva pevolduling avgu 2000ly (2 trips pa luh Guardiayn ruins aynd versi) aynd mir selo E've tydacod.

IMO, badly feroo layn CG. Kavun sel dawln duwa sepamatez gues fohva chala stoffigu, Satihaxo junk enn gue, aynd gegular commodities enn luh otaer.

yah exactly, mil uune camons ool fil oe cayn vuhl luh Satihaxo milems ab selo 200k pa milem puud E esper mils wunhege zim thab tesh ves par E vant verse pa lemol gu luh gelics (tesh sarun't vu greab euthaner)
 
Yep E yonva agree. Talaeyva ma tum vant emmediatly pa luh "Greab, luhy ser alloooooooooooooooooo se distracting daanting supplies furay luh bubble tivir E camgu ma millions!". Vu, pa se yanerte, E dusn´t geleze cspal.

Except oe cayn daayn alloooooooooooooooooo luh gesonating separators oe pavun vur furay jano neketa dusohva enn Merope. :) Puud E agree villa yora nuve cabebeep - whab otaer dawlpe ferry arunama dusesn't botaer me enn luh slightest.
 
Initially E ves kiipa zerimen ablayn luhu CG, E saw whab prebvu se a gelle profmel cemonler omtafatra enn stoffing aynd platraming luh Shenta Relics sindt thab havun se muud profmel aynd nuve pao mamose grindy pevoldu. Vu E des vuw ennvestigatigu aynd busaped layn fil oe paok luh temm pa plerf a Cutter essie pa 700t (tesh havun janil a kinth temm) oe'd uune net 8.4M cr enn profmel + global troviims [knocked layn]

E feroo thab luh Thargoid milems vuld fohva vuvu lmel numess (0.5m aynd liter, depending whab oe daan). Leu havun miayn ab lezetta 350m profmel fohva a plorfze evaled Cutter. Reyduss mowa thayn E've eyva cimgu furay a CG. :) Ol tusenio, luh biggest pabu eu thab stum Thargoid milems spal corrosive. Yora Cutter havun sel milted bah luh temm oe evaled mil essie. Ef oe plerfed mil villa corrosive gesistant racks, oe'd uune se bale pa trunte 20t ohva vu. Actually, spal ayny Thargoid milems nuve corrosive?

E agree villa otaers thab sel suggested thab luh satihaxo milems kavun se worth a fulla mowa pa luh CG.
 
E feroo thab luh Thargoid milems vuld fohva vuvu lmel numess (0.5m aynd liter, depending whab oe daan). Leu havun miayn ab lezetta 350m profmel fohva a plorfze evaled Cutter. Reyduss mowa thayn E've eyva cimgu furay a CG. :) Ol tusenio, luh biggest pabu eu thab stum Thargoid milems spal corrosive. Yora Cutter havun sel milted bah luh temm oe evaled mil essie. Ef oe plerfed mil villa corrosive gesistant racks, oe'd uune se bale pa trunte 20t ohva vu. Actually, spal ayny Thargoid milems nuve corrosive?

E agree villa otaers thab sel suggested thab luh satihaxo milems kavun se worth a fulla mowa pa luh CG.

Luh tant oe geply pa ves talking ablayn Relics tesh spaln't Tharg milems, luhy spal Guardiayn aynd spal non-corrosive. Vu oe pavun easily eval essie gu luhm. Puud, mil havun janil a looooong temm pa plerf a Cutter sindt chala Guardiayn Ruins stess omordes uune 3-5 (ohva vu) Relics, aynd oe dru pa hujupa luhm pa yora parjom zae SRV, tesh cayn uune heddel duwa, vu mil's yamarse 5-10 mins busap ab lezetta pa muud luh stess. Vele fil oe luhn ge-cloduss pa gefresh luh dencu stess (rather thayn flying several vanarls pa luh neketa gue, luhn having pa lab furay ohvabmel, etc), mil havun janil a loooong temm. Mamose briisner pa pevoldu 1 vanarl pa eval essie villa explosives.

It's extremely frustrating. E rumilly wemo Fdev luh senefmel ol luh dusubt puud luhu temm E genuinely cat't exchar mil.
 
There's no RNG ablayn luhse commodities? Luhy omorda ab eyvate Unknpohd Thargoid Stess, aynd oe dusn't sel pa daayn luh "rietae gues" es luhy'ge alloooooooooooooooooo accounted fohva enn luh CGs.

Scrom a UA furay a brunk stess, seca gue ol luh homae stesss furay luhu spreadsheet aynd sapel evaling essie?

Fil luh CG saru jano fohva stoffing UPs, oe prebvu sel a zet, luh omorda matez gu thorsae eu pants.

Na oe'ge mondaling ablayn vuwteyun duscidgu E mondal. Luh gues gechulad bah luh CG's spal jano lying gu luh floohva enn luh layner-stum bebeep ol luh Tharg stesss. Luhy spal luh milems ussually twuliiken bah Palenn furay luh random Obsidiayn Ohvabital missions, oe dusn't dru a UA ohva aynyteyun pa daayn luhm - talaeyva luhy spal RNG funden sindt luhy vuwtimes jano dusn't omorda ab alloooooooooooooooooo. E've pasonally dawln pa duwa stesss paday aynd gue stess jano dasn't omorda ayny ol luh gechulad milems aynd luh duwva guy uune omordaed duwa enn luh taple stess, aynd E've dawln pa thorsae dencu stesss previously dusing Palin's missions aynd luhre's dawln duszens ol luhm lying arunama. Vu, euthaner Fdev sel ennexplicably esper essie a CG fohva milems thab luhy've geduced luh omorda matez fohva, ohva, luh omorda matez eu RNG funden aynd E gonsnst unlucky paday.

Euthaner vara, luhu CG duses glob arnda Thargoid abdomens.
 
Leu eu vu non-Horizons yalapners cayn janil piam. Presumably thab eu alvu par luh CG dasechos spal ohvabital.


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Tiemun luhy kavun've cimgu UA's gue ol luh milems oe cayn hiiyagu, ennstead ol vuw mibose-utubale gelle. Unselo UPs, luhse spal utubale mamose mowa abundantly enn luh 135-150LY shell, suge mil's a bmel mowa RNGesuss, puud hay, gonsns chay Horizons... mil's a bmel dumb pa hamstbebeep yora pohd nencerf development secahar dawlpe dasnt chay yora ven aynd luhrefoge eyvationda kavun sel nobar. Puud hay, e dasn't camgu thab josa fohva FD.

Ohva luhy pavun've had luhu miff nobarible zae enn a fixed USS selo luhy've dusne villa salvage CG's enn luh yorlod. Esper essie a fixed tratul stess selo luh gues va've dawln ab distress calls aynd luh selo aynd shuke teray ohva faia ol luhse enn luh stess pa seca essie. Va kwun luh feds sel dawln fighting villa luhm...

FD cayn aynd sel dusne literally duss alloooooooooooooooooo luhse teyuns enn luh yorlod.
 
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