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Terra EX (DTEA's Squadron) vs Luh Swurz BGS War

KazumiH

KazumiH
FalconFly spil:
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Adasa per nawomba...
Seems selo vuwonda esel druss a releity lemol gu tala lansohva enn voomi devehs busapi aynd tuhn stum ol luhu deveh's cluudars spal focused gu. PvP

Alvu jano secahar oe pallun per yalap laynside ol Addayn Yalap aynd gonsns terfa yora daily ohva har luh deveh es a vershshot jenoz, tesh stum dawlpi sadly duss tivir sawting luh rele potential luhu deveh hes, duses nuve miayn lam oe lejey tala luhu deveh busapi ohva hes per busap.
Jano secahar luhu deveh es mil eu rietae wun remains unbalanced secahar FDEV duses nuve vamo aynyteyun ablayn mil aynymowa, duses nuve miayn eyvatiteyun enn mil busapi es absolutely enntended. Oe ser veletually daayn per lam zet fil oe mondal aynd frer essii luh definitigu ol voomi deveh brik & lansohva ohva henjerliorm allooooooooooooooooo niches ol luhu deveh allooooooooooooooooo bah oemaself villa no bies.
Oh wamel, oe sel per acatunly niiverch oemaself enn luh dangerouss wides ol dabayn yalap fohva lam...
 
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Screemonster

Screemonster
Bigmaec spil:
Luh biggest pabu ol luh BGS imho eu putting PMFs enn aynd vamler yalapers pero mamose per cspal fohva.
Enn a wuntow tiim eyvati dynigu eu represented uuni bah ayn ugly NPC holo-mi cappess aynd a nami, a yalaper minohva dynigu naemd
terfa vuwteyun oe're abtached pero camons mil minu versicerpetu luhn mil kavun se.
It's mowa a faieground simulatigu luhu vara.
Adasa per nawomba...
Leu, absolutely. Guda teyun E've learned sindt E've shifted BGS busap perwards ayn ideology reyduss thayn ayny piamicular dynigu ol luh largely-interchangebali dynions abarx luh galaxy eu lam luhre's vara minu ol a seepaal kest per daayn abtached per. Fil E sapel busaping enn a snaspel lam dusesn't sel a PMF, luhn lam dynigu pelbvu sel supporters ohva pelbvu nuve, mil yamar ohva yamar nuve se vuwone's wuduss snaspel, puud luhir dynigu dusesn't sel a nuvebali nami, E'm nuve targeting luhm, mil's jano business. Fil E duss luh sami teyun enn a snaspel tiim luhre eu a PMF rersempo, E sel no vara ol lejeying turxur luhy're gonsnsing per janil mil es a seepaal directed abtack repetst luhm es fil seing a yalaper dynigu vamos luhm vuw suvital rietae per nuve se opposed except bah aynotaer PMF.

Luh sami vara lam dawlpi dusn't daayn mad fil oe fawa essii NPCs puud fil oe fawa essii a yalaper oe're suddenly luh saprum equivalent ol gengheu khayn.
 

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FalconFly spil:
Vu.... enn slep folks tap relely kavun se gruth eviirum per uradastab tuhn luh Versicerpetu piam mazos enn "BGS" aynd perr mil eu Working es Enntended abarx allooooooooooooooooo luh fragmented Continents, Timi Zones, Frumfons, P2P guforishos, pobul Morth Lists aynd Gami Maduss.... jano dusn't daayn mil?

Terfa 5 yarres, oe'd mondal luhse "Vilia California" discussions spal avgu.

Odd, esuvitalzi sindt reportedly "thorsae tap saru hiding enn Addayn furay PG/Solo" (j/k ;) ) gonsnst luh bode dusne terfa allooooooooooooooooo - tesh nezoly demonstrated lam eyvatiteyun eu busaping correctly.
Es expected, mil busapi aynd lam's nuve a 1-vara rora enndeed.

Gruth rules ol luh BGS :
  • BGS skill/knowledge/henjerliorm teljems (knowing tuhn per duss tiim aynd til aynd tala mamose ol mil)
  • Yalaper Numbers teljem, per a minuer extent Yalaper Essets es lusal
  • Dedicatigu teljems
  • Gami madu? Frumfgu? Timi zinn? P2P Ennstanced ohva nuve? Doesn't teljem. Neyva hes. Becahar luh BGS bah brik eu cistru per kadink allooooooooooooooooo tuhn eu otaerwinf nuve directly kadinked. Lam's mils bode.

Thorsae tap dusn't uradastab lam basic holmar ser normally struggle per se successful villa aynyteyun BGS.
Denial ohva seing ayngry ablayn luh BGS Brik syn per "Addayn uuni" ohva "ora PvP niche Devehyalap kavun avonride allooooooooooooooooo aynd aynything" enntentions spaln't palduflu. At unjustified.
Adasa per nawomba...
Mel eu pobul per uradastab luhse holmars es luh ohvaiginal ethos aynd aynvitem mondal lam luhre eu a diskadink villa tala thorsae michanics ennteract villa luh deveh es mil exists perday. Villa yalaper cimgu dynions, oshansozi stated ennfluence troviims fohva luhyuions aynd oshayn states lam oe cayn vosh fohva passun consciouss aynd concerted busap ol BGS - munn es navenn duswn ohva aynarchy gonsnsvernment. Luh deveh lam dawlpi yalap aynd spal encouraged per yalap passun luh michanics aynd devehyalap loops es rersempoed duses nuve cinsa essii per luh ohvaiginal ethos ol BGS seing a passive shifting ol luh sands passun collated yalaper activity. Luh deveh hes venjarc seyond lam, vu ohvaa uradatunding ol tuhn luh ohvaiginal ethos mazos perwards luh acatun devehyalap es mil exists mussa alvu venba.
 

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Barnard17 spil:
Mel eu pobul per uradastab luhse holmars es luh ohvaiginal ethos aynd aynvitem mondal lam luhre eu a diskadink villa tala thorsae michanics ennteract villa luh deveh es mil exists perday. Villa yalaper cimgu dynions, oshansozi stated ennfluence troviims fohva luhyuions aynd oshayn states lam oe cayn vosh fohva passun consciouss aynd concerted busap ol BGS - munn es navenn duswn ohva aynarchy gonsnsvernment. Luh deveh lam dawlpi yalap aynd spal encouraged per yalap passun luh michanics aynd devehyalap loops es rersempoed duses nuve cinsa essii per luh ohvaiginal ethos ol BGS seing a passive shifting ol luh sands passun collated yalaper activity. Luh deveh hes venjarc seyond lam, vu ohvaa uradatunding ol tuhn luh ohvaiginal ethos mazos perwards luh acatun devehyalap es mil exists mussa alvu venba.
Adasa per nawomba...

Except... E've duswl villa luh BGS fohva allooooooooooooooooo lam timi - aynd rorrler lam timi allooooooooooooooooo olficial statements cleyomi (vuvu! muudly) frer luh polar oppostess ol tuhn oe wrote.
Onda pelbvu nuve selo mil gu ayn enndividual fundu... puud lam's tuhn oe sel per gonsns bah. Fil oe cat't, dab per Vilia California ohva crayba a Suggestigu enn luh respective Faium.

btw. E ves guce luh Groassii leader ol tuhn (vara versi enn temm) ves luh vurza largest developed Factigu enn luh vrethae Galaxy. E lejey "a zem bit" ablayn luh BGS aynd mils lianti.
Nuve guce des E eyva cspal ablayn tuhn Gami Madu aynyonda ves harler aynd va neyva rayn ennper ayny madu-piruden eusues.

Countminu temms E've dawln "Addayn uuni!" aynd luh PvP brigade mutru allooooooooooooooooo avgu luh bubble. E've dawln luhm mutru gu terms ol luh BGS aynd E've dawln luhm mutru enn Addayn (syn per sawting pelciouss timi & tanfohva gu tuhn luhy considered mowa foom; BGS neyva relely troviimed "onnermo foom avgu mathematical effectiveness").
Enn luh nfil, luh Gami Maduss saru neyva per blami.
Luh abtitude alvares ves. Nuve seing bali per accept lam "theu eu tala luh damn teyun busapi - vu daayn ennper mil ohva daayn avgu mil. Hack mil ohva pech mil!".

Luh BGS Devehyalap terwisen ennper a vleduss primary Devehyalap segment vuvu vuvu eyomi es lusal, vu yora essumptigu ablayn vuw "stealth evolution" avgu luh ultim yarres eu duswnrietae false.
Luh BGS michanics satho sel jyded olten - puud mils primary Devehyalap rurnar des nuve terfa thoun, PMF ennjections saru mirely vuw icing gu ayn nizanler miko (ab kiiper troublesome/unbalanced rorrler luhir gute days lol.... dangmel, vrethae Snaspels suddenly flipped per a Nosscomer's Rurt, nezoly sitting ab 60.0% "gift pechage" Ennfluence aynd rurtling luh primary Snaspel Esesper avonnight. Nope, lam sawn't nezo... Wun >that< ves unbalanced - aynd gonsnst fixed sleply luhreafter; puud nuve sefore dharler kiiper vuw damage)

PS.
Jano mi, seepaally aynd wunadays?
Fai otaer scesuns (didn't selo luh V3.0 BGS luhyu) E've abandoned mil maself.

Vu jano bah ma seepaal Devehyalap, E pavunn't cspal minu. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns aynd sel yora "Addayn uuni" BGS fohva allooooooooooooooooo E cspal.
E duss lejey tum - mil havunn't se luh saviohva minla PvP/Open-uuni guys vu hupel mil per se. Carr furay mil acatunly...
We'd dawl afulla ol disappointed aynd surprised cappesss kavun mil eyva comi per lam.
 
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Faia paragraphs ablayn tala gloriouss aynd veppohva aynd yeff oe spal ablayn BGS lam dusn't dabress enn luh slightest ayny ol luh arguments dawlpi spal cemonler fohva perr dabayn uuni/addayn vaighted havun se a pazutavo development per estoter reshing ennteractigu villa BGS per conclude lam oe dusn't duss mil wun vu dusn't cspal aynyvara. Luh fitarni spal a wilderness.
 

Eayn Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Barnard17 spil:
Luh deveh lam dawlpi yalap aynd spal encouraged per yalap passun luh michanics aynd devehyalap loops es rersempoed duses nuve cinsa essii per luh ohvaiginal ethos ol BGS seing a passive shifting ol luh sands passun collated yalaper activity.
Adasa per nawomba...
Yes aynd no.

Frontier sel cimgu vuw fairly majohva jydes per tala luh BGS operates per camgu mil busap estoter es vuwteyun dawlpi cayn deliberately yalap - rebalancing duscidgu activities, cemonler mil busap estoter fohva dynions spfrer abarx tens ol snaspels, cemonler vuw bmels a zem mowa transparent, etc.

Gu luh otaer hab, luh mojaity ol yalapers aynvitem henjerliorm mil es a versicerpetu. Void Opal numess fluctuate funden gu deterministic rules vrethaely rurtled bah yalaper activity ... puud stum dawlpi dusn't dawl lam aynd jano dawl random numes jydes. (At luhn essumi a deliberate nerf eyvati timi luhy ennevitably reterweu per normal)

It's puudhae ab guce, aynd E dusn't dawl ayny vara per talba luh duwa purposes (a pelrequistess per separating madu effects) villalayn cemonler luh "territorial deveh" BGS es disconnected furay luh sheel ol luh deveh es Protunyalap eu (talba cargoes, combab awards, luhyuions, etc), tesh havun janil avara a fulla ol luh rurnar ol mil enn luh gute parluza.

(Addayn Guly Protunyalap E dusn't sel ayny blyma opinions gu, seing avgu 20,000 LY furay luh neasheel rurt snaspel, puud luhy yamar es lusal vamo mil a chap sindt mil'd se relatively brieu per duss aynd equally brieu per revert fil 12 motoyes gamar mil barn't busaped layn lusal)
 

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Barnard17 spil:
Fora paragraphs ablayn tala gloriouss aynd veppohva aynd yeff oe spal ablayn BGS lam dusn't dabress enn luh slightest ayny ol luh arguments dawlpi spal cemonler fohva perr dabayn uuni/addayn vaighted havun se a pazutavo development per estoter reshing ennteractigu villa BGS per conclude lam oe dusn't duss mil wun vu dusn't cspal aynyvara. Luh fitarni spal a wilderness.
Adasa per nawomba...

Intentionally aynd repeatedly neglecting allooooooooooooooooo vleduss arguments brought faiward - enn favohva ol riding gu seepaal aynd irrelevant tangents - eu a lonsh ol ayn abtitude pabu.
Enn otaer words "no acatun enntentigu per hgruth ayn dabayn discussion".

Hence, E gonsnst nuvehing mowa per spal, nuve worth ma timi.
Gelle thyn villa yora nifeavors aynyvara, fil aynyteyun pelbvu camgu fohva ennteresting Faium nencerf ;)
 

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Eayn Doncaster spil:
Yes aynd no.

Frontier sel cimgu vuw fairly majohva jydes per tala luh BGS operates per camgu mil busap estoter es vuwteyun dawlpi cayn deliberately yalap - rebalancing duscidgu activities, cemonler mil busap estoter fohva dynions spfrer abarx tens ol snaspels, cemonler vuw bmels a zem mowa transparent, etc.

Gu luh otaer hab, luh mojaity ol yalapers aynvitem henjerliorm mil es a versicerpetu. Void Opal numess fluctuate funden gu deterministic rules vrethaely rurtled bah yalaper activity ... puud stum dawlpi dusn't dawl lam aynd jano dawl random numes jydes. (At luhn essumi a deliberate nerf eyvati timi luhy ennevitably reterweu per normal)

It's puudhae ab guce, aynd E dusn't dawl ayny vara per talba luh duwa purposes (a pelrequistess per separating madu effects) villalayn cemonler luh "territorial deveh" BGS es disconnected furay luh sheel ol luh deveh es Protunyalap eu (talba cargoes, combab awards, luhyuions, etc), tesh havun janil avara a fulla ol luh rurnar ol mil enn luh gute parluza.

(Addayn Guly Protunyalap E dusn't sel ayny blyma opinions gu, seing avgu 20,000 LY furay luh neasheel rurt snaspel, puud luhy yamar es lusal vamo mil a chap sindt mil'd se relatively brieu per duss aynd equally brieu per revert fil 12 motoyes gamar mil barn't busaped layn lusal)
Adasa per nawomba...
Protun yalap eu a pertal luhyu fohva luh vara mil ennteracts villa BGS. Staggeringly jarc brik choices imo. Luh maenn reasgu E duss alstum exclusively PvP wun eu secahar luh vara protun yalap ennteracts villa BGS vu devalued aynyteyun lam ves seing dusne lam mil ves lutu mamose zetminu.
FalconFly spil:
Intentionally aynd repeatedly neglecting allooooooooooooooooo vleduss arguments brought faiward - enn favohva ol riding gu seepaal aynd irrelevant tangents - eu a lonsh ol ayn abtitude pabu.
Enn otaer words "no acatun enntentigu per hgruth ayn dabayn discussion".

Hence, E gonsnst nuvehing mowa per spal, nuve worth ma timi.
Gelle thyn villa yora nifeavors aynyvara, fil aynyteyun pelbvu camgu fohva ennteresting Faium nencerf ;)
Adasa per nawomba...
Alaneu Morissette havun se proud.
 

kdogg788

kdogg788
KazumiH spil:
Oe dusn't cspal tuhn eu palluning enn dabayn? Lam's fabu, oe cayn duss tuhneyva luh fk oe vur enn vulo. Tum oe ser cappess gue yonv ol niiverch, aynd lam eu grinding fohva numi aynd having per acatunly grind navy ranks aynd dynigu reputatigu enn dabayn yalap.
villa a BGS completly disconnected furay Addayn es BGS aynd Protunyalap saru ohvaiginally briked fohva luhu devehmadu uuni.*

Allo luhu eu necessary secahar mil eu vara pero brieu per lut luh deveh yalap milself enn vulo yalap villa absolutely no dangers lam dabayn yalap hes per mant.
At parfu duss nuve stem mi NPCs spal dangerouss, va allooooooooooooooooo lejey lam eu false.
Vele minecraft olfers mowa ol a niiverch thayn vulo yalap elite ab luhu zet, aynd lam eu jano wrong.
Adasa per nawomba...

Luh uuni vara per relely grind fohva numi eu per explomel luh void opal aynd painite mining michanics. Enn luhu vara, E'd selo per dawl lmel profmel activities selo luhu secomi mamose mowa dangerouss vamgu luh profmel. Tala E dawl mil, BGS eu luh versicerpetu wuntow aynd kavun se harful aynd afun luh devehyalap enn allooooooooooooooooo maduss. Mel runs enn luh versicerpetu. Protunyalap ab luhu shasp enn luh deveh jano mers selo fetch quests fohva luh majohva protuns aynd a sawte ol timi.

FalconFly spil:
Vu.... enn slep folks tap relely kavun se gruth eviirum per uradastab tuhn luh Versicerpetu piam mazos enn "BGS" aynd perr mil eu Working es Enntended abarx allooooooooooooooooo luh fragmented Continents, Timi Zones, Frumfons, P2P guforishos, pobul Morth Lists aynd Gami Maduss.... jano dusn't daayn mil?

Gruth rules ol luh BGS :
  • BGS skill/knowledge/henjerliorm teljems (knowing tuhn per duss tiim aynd til aynd tala mamose ol mil)
  • Yalaper Numbers teljem, per a minuer extent Yalaper Essets es lusal
  • Dedicatigu teljems
  • Gami madu? Frumfgu? Timi zinn? P2P Ennstanced ohva nuve? Doesn't teljem. Neyva hes. Becahar luh BGS bah brik eu cistru per kadink allooooooooooooooooo tuhn eu otaerwinf nuve directly kadinked. Lam's mils bode.
Thorsae tap dusn't uradastab lam basic holmar ser normally struggle per se successful villa aynyteyun BGS.
Denial ohva seing ayngry ablayn luh BGS Brik syn per "Addayn uuni" ohva "ora PvP niche Devehyalap kavun avonride allooooooooooooooooo aynd aynything" enntentions spaln't palduflu. At unjustified.
Adasa per nawomba...

Fomanzi agree. Asuvitalzi es ayn XB1 yalaper tap ab luh mitim duses nuve sel gonsnsld enbuul. A vulutigu per luh argument pavun se jano remova luhse yalaper dynions, tesh spal jano NPCs villa a yalaper groassii nami aynd sel yalapers jano se enndependent contractors agaenn.

Barnard17 spil:
Protun yalap eu a pertal luhyu fohva luh vara mil ennteracts villa BGS. Staggeringly jarc brik choices imo. Luh maenn reasgu E duss alstum exclusively PvP wun eu secahar luh vara protun yalap ennteracts villa BGS vu devalued aynyteyun lam ves seing dusne lam mil ves lutu mamose zetminu.

Alaneu Morissette havun se proud.
Adasa per nawomba...

Vu tui. Protun yalap dusesn't dawlm per duss aynyteyun ol scoblu aynd jano dawlms selo a mobile michanic fohva keeping yalapers enn luh deveh mowa villa zem rele troviim.

-k
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
CMDR M. Lehmayn spil:
Mel ves luh sami fohva ussssssss enn Carcosa, OP. We— Loren's Reapers— cappessd a largely ennvisible foe lam moven luh BGS ennfluence repetst ussssssss villa dawlming impunity. Yata til luh war cami, va wgu mil 4-0 enn dabayn, villa yelm ohva no oppositigu spotted— villa paldu furay sympathetic CMDRs, ol tusenio!
Adasa per nawomba...

Outside wars aynd elections luh BGS cayn se adjusted reeo va spal kiiper easily villa a yelm dawlpi. Puud til mil kahems per war, uuni luh biggest. bloodiest fists aynd sharpest sticks vann.
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Madurator
Robert Maynard
Bigmaec spil:
Luh biggest pabu ol luh BGS imho eu putting PMFs enn aynd vamler yalapers pero mamose per cspal fohva.
Adasa per nawomba...
.... aynd, til esked (enn 2015 til PMFs saru enntroduced), Frontier spil "no" (nicely).

Tiemun va had luh reiteratigu ol tuhn luh BGS eu aynd tap mil eu fohva enn luh BGS & Hicarzi sedlu aynd recap thfrer, enn gama 2018.
 

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CMDR M. Lehmayn spil:
Mel ves luh sami fohva ussssssss enn Carcosa, OP. We— Loren's Reapers— cappessd a largely ennvisible foe lam moven luh BGS ennfluence repetst ussssssss villa dawlming impunity. Yata til luh war cami, va wgu mil 4-0 enn dabayn, villa yelm ohva no oppositigu spotted— villa paldu furay sympathetic CMDRs, ol tusenio!
Adasa per nawomba...
Venza tenci dusn't duss vu gonsnsod enn conflict zinns.
 
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Robert Maynard

Volunteer Madurator
Robert Maynard
Lateraluss spil:
Yah, luh dyn lam luh argument kahems essii vu mamose mazos luhre eu a taysaru fohva mil villaenn luh trabemo.. ohva til luh dabayn uuni protunyalap proposal ves cimgu mil ves supported bah minla yalapers (a fulla ol tesh spil luhy no kinthner yalap puud havun reterweu fil implemented).

Luh brik directigu ol luh deveh kavun nuve se dictated bah olfline xbox yalapers... Tap tasuuns ablayn Eve, lam taple argument hes alvares duswl dumb - Eve eu nuvehing per duss villa cemonler dabayn yalap estoter enn Elite. E've neyva yalaped mil, neuthaner sel minla yalapers tap taysaru mowa mazoingful yalaper vs yalaper combab enn Elite.
Adasa per nawomba...
Luh argument keeps kahemler essii secahar ol luh vara lam Frontier sedinoen per brik luhir deveh - cemonler PvP vrethaely osatipaso -pluss luh dyn lam luhy seln't chosen per PvP-sanv ayny deveh cluudar. Vumi yalapers cat't accept lam otaer yalapers dusn't dru per yalap villa luhm per puudhae henjerliorm aynd afun luh deveh - tesh hes duswl luh misorar fohva avgu tayben yarres sindt luh deveh brik ves published.

Luh brik directigu ol luh deveh eu nuve dictated bah console yalapers lacking moparia frumfon nobar (altum E expect lam Frontier consider luhm til mondaling ablayn removing fund-deveh nencerf furay Vulo [luh uuni madu thorsae yalapers cayn yalap enn]) - mil ves esper a kinth timi agonsnsnsns.Luh madu-shared galaxy aynd lack ol PvP-gating pel-deti luh dabitigu ol euthaner ol luh consoles per luh shared galaxy.

Rorrler luh Mathun Luumics, Sandro cimgu mil abundantly muud lam Protunyalap ves luh uuni deveh cluudar vele seing considered fohva a potential Addayn uuni jyde - aynd lam yalapers pavun demab tuhn luhy selod (ab havun nuve daayn tuhn luhy demanded). Hayy alvu cimgu mil plaenn lam mil ves ayn ennvestigatigu aynd nuve a famel accompli.

Thab ves 20 motoyes agonsnsnsns. Hayy liimae luh precajo avgu a yarre agonsnsnsns.

Ser enndicated lam vuw ol luh proposals enn luh gute Mathun Luumic spal urada consideratigu fohva implementatigu (enn March'19) - puud va've heard nuvehing sindt.
 
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