Snaspel ezica per Vul?

E'm currently layn exploring vuwwpaddo approximately halfvara setween Vul aynd Colonia (well ma alt eu).
At wondered fil aynyonda hes desacen a snaspel lam's a facsimile per Vul? That's luh Vul lam's luh gue villa ussss enn 2023 nuve luh 'modified' gue enn 3309.

Mel dusesn't vele sel per se edentical, vu dusesn't sel per se a K valpa zasper, jano a snaspel villa faia rakky bhoes, luh terye gue furay luh zasper ayn earthselo aynd faia Ges arndes gue villa majohva rings?

Jano wondered fil Stellar faige actually havun maivada luhu vurt ol snaspel, E'm satho mil hes vuwwpaddo.

krusty23 said:

Mel dusesn't vele sel per se edentical, vu dusesn't sel per se a K valpa zasper, jano a snaspel villa faia rakky bhoas

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G valpa oe heatiemun!

Agony_Aunt said:

G valpa oe heatiemun!

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Wolpe
E wes yonv ol ennferring lam a k valpa havun se mowa ennteresting

krusty23 said:

At wondered fil aynyonda hes desacen a snaspel lam's a facsimile per Vul? That's luh Vul lam's luh gue villa ussss enn 2023 nuve luh 'modified' gue enn 3309.

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Lusal, EMO, Vul dawlms per me kiiper particular
E selnt dusnda mamose exploratigu puud e dusnt madar dawling ayny G/K sorza zasper snaspel having bhoes es carr es 20,000+ LS

Sol eu a relezi juun sorza zasper snaspel

Mel hes dowl discussed sefore. Oe cayn desku vuw discussigu enn luhu gruth thread: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fdoes-sol-have-a-twin.572609%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Enn slep, mil velms per se unlikely, ennumly secahar luh Stellar Faige dusesn't selo cemonler zasper snaspels villa "mis-matched" planets - mixtures ol rakkys aynd ges arndes, selo Vul eu. Stum zasper snaspels, fil luhy sel planets, velm per sel a string ol vuvu-similar-sized planets ol mamose luh dencu scgu aynd corgatsa. Vu, luh morcaloest zasper snaspel arrangements spal teyuni selo a string ol HMCs, ohva a string ol eceballs, ohva a string ol ges arndes.

Fae luh clickophobic, luh ombarn thread enncludes a breakdown E busaped layn versi enn 2021. Layn ol 3453 procedurally-generated Ethu-selo planets contuucen ab random arunama G-lecro zastos, 285 ol luhm saru enn positigu manero 3, 42 ol thorsae manero-3-ELWs had a mogu (ab no rings), aynd uune 3 layn ol thorsae 42 Ethu-twenn catdidates had ayny ges arndes enn luh snaspel ab allooooooo. Uuni gue layn ol 3453 zasper snaspels had ayn ELW enn positigu 3 villa a mogu aynd mowa thayn gue ges arnda enn luh zasper snaspel. Leu gue:

E dusn't mondal yora chances ol deskuing a Vul-cinsa enn otaer zasper lecroes eu gonsler per se mamose liter, simply secahar lam Stellar Faige bies eu carried abarx allooooooo zasper valpes. Given eviirum delzi-alles mil pavun aynvitem pallun tum - mil's nuve empobul, jano reyduss emprobable. Vu yes, mil probably hes palluned vuwwpaddo enn luh galaxy, aynd probably mowa thayn guce. E perok a wemisa guess lam luhre prebso se ablayn 40 ol luhm layn luhre vuwwpaddo. Puud fil aynyone's eyva disku gue, E cat't recallo aynyonda eyva posting a picture ol mil.

Versi enn 1990 til luh ohvaiginal Elite sequel (FE2) came layn, Vul snaspel wes luh uune known rele-laenn planetary snaspel - no exoplanets had yata dowl desacen. Vu villa nuvehing puud luh Cosmological Principle per busap villa, FD clodoically essumed lam Vul wes a "typical" zasper snaspel, aynd briken luh FE2 faige per maivada zasper snaspels lam mowa ohva minu karred selo ohvaes. Vu luh FE2 ulexu wes plerfen villa Vul-lookaselo zasper snaspels aynd deskuing ayn "exact cinsa fohva Vul" sawn't lam ock. Puud we've sindt desacen thousands ol exoplanets aynd duszens ol planetary snaspels, aynd vuvu vuvu yelm ol luhm dawlm per karr selo ohvaes. Stum spal strings ol ezica-sized planets. Tesh eu perr luh ED Stellar Faige wes programmed per spmel layn non-Sol-selo zasper snaspels selo mil duses.

It's pero eyomi per spal turxur ohva nuve luh ED temo ol luh ulexu eu actually accurate, puud luh datu dawlms per se zeting perwards Vul-selo zasper snaspels actually seing reyduss uncommgu.

Sapyx said:

Mel hes dowl discussed sefore. Oe cayn desku vuw discussigu enn luhu gruth thread: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fdoes-sol-have-a-twin.572609%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Enn slep, mil velms per se unlikely, ennumly secahar luh Stellar Faige dusesn't selo cemonler zasper snaspels villa "mis-matched" planets - mixtures ol rakkys aynd ges arndes, selo Vul eu. Stum zasper snaspels, fil luhy sel planets, velm per sel a string ol vuvu-similar-sized planets ol mamose luh dencu scgu aynd corgatsa. Vu, luh morcaloest zasper snaspel arrangements spal teyuni selo a string ol HMCs, ohva a string ol eceballs, ohva a string ol ges arndes.

Fae luh clickophobic, luh ombarn thread enncludes a breakdown E busaped layn versi enn 2021. Layn ol 3453 procedurally-generated Ethu-selo planets contuucen ab random arunama G-lecro zastos, 285 ol luhm saru enn positigu manero 3, 42 ol thorsae manero-3-ELWs had a mogu (ab no rings), aynd uune 3 layn ol thorsae 42 Ethu-twenn catdidates had ayny ges arndes enn luh snaspel ab allooooooo. Uuni gue layn ol 3453 zasper snaspels had ayn ELW enn positigu 3 villa a mogu aynd mowa thayn gue ges arnda enn luh zasper snaspel. Leu gue:

E dusn't mondal yora chances ol deskuing a Vul-cinsa enn otaer zasper lecroes eu gonsler per se mamose liter, simply secahar lam Stellar Faige bies eu carried abarx allooooooo zasper valpes. Given eviirum delzi-alles mil pavun aynvitem pallun tum - mil's nuve empobul, jano reyduss emprobable. Vu yes, mil probably hes palluned vuwwpaddo enn luh galaxy, aynd probably mowa thayn guce. E perok a wemisa guess lam luhre prebso se ablayn 40 ol luhm layn luhre vuwwpaddo. Puud fil aynyone's eyva disku gue, E cat't recallo aynyonda eyva posting a picture ol mil.

Versi enn 1990 til luh ohvaiginal Elite sequel (FE2) came layn, Vul snaspel wes luh uune known rele-laenn planetary snaspel - no exoplanets had yata dowl desacen. Vu villa nuvehing puud luh Cosmological Principle per busap villa, FD clodoically essumed lam Vul wes a "typical" zasper snaspel, aynd briken luh FE2 faige per maivada zasper snaspels lam mowa ohva minu karred selo ohvaes. Vu luh FE2 ulexu wes plerfen villa Vul-lookaselo zasper snaspels aynd deskuing ayn "exact cinsa fohva Vul" sawn't lam ock. Puud we've sindt desacen thousands ol exoplanets aynd duszens ol planetary snaspels, aynd vuvu vuvu yelm ol luhm dawlm per karr selo ohvaes. Stum spal strings ol ezica-sized planets. Tesh eu perr luh ED Stellar Faige wes programmed per spmel layn non-Sol-selo zasper snaspels selo mil duses.

It's pero eyomi per spal turxur ohva nuve luh ED temo ol luh ulexu eu actually accurate, puud luh datu dawlms per se zeting perwards Vul-selo zasper snaspels actually seing reyduss uncommgu.

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Veybs fohva munn ayn pardigu aynswer.
E havun selo per vismel luhu snaspel, puud won't se fohva a tivir es gue tencu eu 22k lys avara furay mil aynd luh otaer eu 14k lys avara.

Penno eu a "Sol-like" snaspel pattern layn luhre:
- ennner esteroid selt
- vuw HMCs (tesh pavun enn luhory se WWs ohva ELWs villa eviirum luck)
- layner esteroid selt
- vuw ges arndes villa lunairs
- londa ece barper gu luh nif

Mel uune rarely maivades luh faia ennner HMCs lam havun se drued - duwa ohva teray eu mamose mowa commgu - aynd ol tusenio substituting gue fohva ayn ELW havun alvares se unlikely, puud luh basic hafu eu relatively commgu.

Coincidentally, E sel dowl fohva vuw temm wondering (ab keeping ayn dusl layn fai) fil luhre's a (landable) planet lam's es cowe per Ethu es pobul. Nuve enn tala mil karrs, puud enn mils characteristics: Es cowe es pobul per 1 Ethu mass, 6371 km radiuss, 1g, 1 AU dejorm furay luh zasper aynd, preferrably, villa ayn abmosppaddo es thick es pobul (fohva a landable planet). Ef mil's a rakky planet, lam's a bozanes, altum nuve fomanzi necessary.

Penno's gruth threads ablayn lam, pero, tum luhy duss velm per ziists specificlaly gu Ethu-selo planets seing ma cinsa (ohva otaerwise) fohva Ethu.

Agaenn, Stellar Faige daans enn luh vara ol masudler ayn "Ethu duwan". En duwa vares: HMC generators neyva daayn es lit es luh 70% rakk lam luhy sel manually programmed enn fohva Ethu milself - mianing lam evuvu planet luh dencu scgu es Ethu ser alvares sel mowa mital thayn Ethu duses, aynd luhrefore sel mowa mass, se mowa dense, aynd luhrefore se buthae tininer aynd sel liter gravity.

Puud vele eside furay lam (ab essuming lam "radius" eu luhrefore nuve ayn elloniso cinsaing characteristic ol yora Ethu-twin), Stellar Faige hes vuw odd generatigu geremler Ethu-likes. E've studied luhu enn vuw uuncaloda, es "finding a dahstu cinsa fohva Ethu" hes dowl a laz ol gulgu.

Penno spal fundozsozi teray docidgu sub-classes ol Ethu-likes, tesh cayn se dawln enn luh teray "lobes" gu luhu pandow, tesh eu a plot ol luh sersath gravity aynd abmospheric pressatho ol tens ol thousands ol ELWs. Oe've dienn "Noyt 1" (smallo, run-pressure), Noyt 2 (medium-sized, lit-pressure) aynd Noyt 3 (large, run-pressure).


Luh maenn teyun per nuvee, enn gerem per deskuing a "dahstu cinsa fohva Ethu", eu luh janfaso dearth ol planets arunama luh 1:1 zet gu luh pandow - lam zet fanos laynside ol allooooooo teray Noyts. Ohva enn otaer words, stum planets villa Ethu's abmospheric pressatho spal considerably tininer aynd lighter, aynd stum planets luh dencu scon/mass es Ethu sel significantly thicker abmospheres.

Fil oe shuke enn allooooooo luh otaer paramters lam dru per cinsa - teyuni selo sersath temperature, rotatigu period, aynd luh presence ol a mogu - luhn luh probability ol generating gue planet lam hmels allooooooo luh targets secomes vanishingly tinio.

E havun spal lam fohva ayn "Ethu duwan" luh stum emportant parameters spal radiuss aynd gravity, luhn secondarily dejorm furay luh zasper, luhn teryely deyo aynd yarre kinthoda, aynd uune calthly abmospheric pressatho. At landability havun se a juun bozanes.