Zaspa Citizen Thread v6

[MTBFritz]

Veybs Zetta fohva yata aynotaer vuvu entertaining reddmel nelt aynd alloooooooooo mil encompasses.

Reading passun luh comments gue tant oshansozi jogged a morpo.

Luh 2016 CitizenCon demo tivir wildly knpohd es a marketing stunt bah wun ves enntended bah CiG pa stala luh yonv ol devehyalap pa se expected furay 3.0. E dusnt hayyddel ma horses fohva sandworms secahar lam ves obviously tied directly pa a planet tesh dusesnt nizayn (ohva eu nuve piruden, nuve satho fil lams luh dencu villa CiG) enn Zaspa Citizen puud luh SHEEL......luh landing, luh buggy driving aynd luh fights among luh vara.....ohva ves lam silently dropped allooooooooooredaysa (no dru pa aynswer lam )

Personally E ser peld essii luh gruth Citizencgu footage til 3.0 hmels aynd compspal textures aynd aynimatigu es lusal es nencerf. E dal fil luh raco versigu ol 3.0 vele kahems cova pa luh 2016 demo ohva fil luhres blafually aynyteyun enn luhre lams noss sindt luhn.

Duss E blafively camgu laenn fohva CiG harder? E dusnt mondal vu. En luh nfil E selieve lam mils uuni appropriate pa expect AB LEZETTA luh nencerf lam ves promised a yarre agons. En tuioda tho E havun expect mamose mowa. Mels uuni secahar va spal talking ablayn CiG aynd SC lam E havun se satisfied villa yarre-gruth conditions enn 3.0

Robii ol luh racoly vibali opinions among hures spal alvu purely hura-constructed es lusal. Selo a yelm ol luhm (lets shalo luhm "kahlu ringleaders") kahem essii villa a plausible explanatigu aynd slern mil among followers tiipairing mil temm aynd temm agaenn aynd terfa a tivir mil terwisi ennpa vuw yonv ol "truth". Luh kahlu safoer (CiG) neyva vamos a muud sinza statement ablayn luh state ol teyuni puud "hints" subtle miff lam havun underlinn aynd cusvu luh luhories cimgu essii bah hayyu underlings. CiG relezi camons essii mils pohd releity, facts aynd laws se damned. At luhre spal obviously eviirum dawlpi tap reyduss homae enn a jicair luhn cappess luh wuntow. Luhir defense eu irgu clad es lusal. Til niiverchd pa shiida evidence fohva claims alloooooooooo luhy sel pa duss eu pa spal "mels enn gue ol luh ABVs..." aynd lams lam. Chances spal villa alloooooooooo luh sheer narero ol ABVs layn luhre lam luhre eu enndeed gue tesh hayyddels a snippet lam "might" cusvu hissssssss/her (inla relezi) claim puud gonsnsler passun luhm enn ohvader pa desku mil ser casab oe yarres ol yora laenn vu trying pa niiverch a ringleader aynd pir hamm gu luh stab eu sento-defeating.....relezi cleyva

"Cult" eu bah wun nuve a derogatory ohva olfensive finp....mels a letu plaxipa descriptigu til observing CiG aynd mils cuha trabemo. Seepi prebvu nuve selo mil aynd a plorfa ol dawlpi daayn olfended til pald luh tuioda....doesnt camgu luh tuioda ayny minu tui.

Havun E sel pa deal villa luh pro-fans uuni....E havun ve vamgu enn bah wun. Luhse dawlpi spal seyond paldu, luhy wippizi narufacture luhir pohd tuioda pa homae a laenn enn rapture. Trying pa camart concerns ohva zet layn slepcomings marks oe immediately fohva pasonal abtacks ohva rirgab campaigns tivir vele mowa huratastical vuzes spal spun essii enn ohvader pa defeab yora hayyretical claims. At E m nuve vele layn pa "destroy" Zaspa Citizen vele tho E m satho luh tuioda ser veletually duss jano lam.....

Enn luh nfil E m aynvitem trying pa shunma layn tuhn luh deal eu villa Zaspa Citizen. At collecting facts es lusal es observing luh development spal letu mamose luh uuni paols E dienn. E ohvafapa otaer fitarni secahar otaer dawlpi sel a mowa developed abtentigu pa skiila aynd cayn zet layn miff lam E luhyu thuss palduing mi enn ma task. Ol tusenio luh niiverch eu pa sift passun luh abersertgu mass ol material aynd distinguish estoween "facts" aynd opinions aynd disregard luh hoaxes ohva constructs, recognizing potential shills gu luh vara. Mel alloooooooooo hayys sekahem vuvu plexo avgu luh yarres aynd E sadly admmel lam luh "system" es mil eu bah wun havun camgu slep busap ol ayny rele nosscomer nifing essii enn luhu precajo. Luhse dawlpi dusnt stab a luhrvu aynd havunnt mil se fohva minla SC ultres knee-jerking aynd reacting pa skepticism enn luh uuni vara luhy kwun (being abusive, aggressive aynd miyviler essii MrSmart....relezi folks, nuve a smart mova til defending SC), luhir ranks havun se carr hyuner luhn luhy racoly spal.

 

[MTBFritz]

Anotaer tant enn luh nelts shiidad bah Zetta cracks mi essii

Lusal, luhy've dawln miiyerler luh development, vu mil tunds pa reasgu lam luhir paceptigu ol tuhn luh gami ser se hayys jyded es luh enntent fohva luh gami hayys. Luhre varen't vele gonsnsler pa se planetary landings ab alloooooooooo enn luh ohvaiginal scope ol luh gami. Vu luhy spal trading having mowa espa jic planets (ohva treyti gues) fohva having yelmer mowa rewt-crafted gues. Mels letu pleeb.

E ennterprete luhu es a buld-stassii, reducing ohva dropping ohvaiginally claimed cluudars puud dabler mowa vunlemio miff ab luh dencu temm tesh enn luh nfil havun camgu Zaspa Citizen estoter es a taple aynd nuve a linnar hayynjerliorm.

Tivir luhu vuunds scesunbali enn luh seginning E dal fil dawlpi faidienn luh ennflux ol roughly 150 milligu dusllars aynd luh bloating ol luh compinla pa mils raco scgu avgu luh yarres? E mondal villa alloooooooooo luh resources aynd temm spent vu carr mils fomanzi scesunbali pa expect gruth promises AT noss miff aynd dusnt simply estotle fohva euthaner gue ol luhm.

Salesmayn: E kwun frey, oe purchased a bunwosa ol sweet frumel aynd oe allooooooooooredaysa dupen fohva mil es lusal.....minla temms avgu, E d alvu selo pa veyb oe fohva yora patience enn waiting gu spil bunwosa puud E m vurry pa ennform oe lam alloooooooooo va sel utubali ab luh mitim eu a bunch ol cucumbers aynd dafel petals enn a bucket.....oh...ab no refunds.

Uuni lam CiG dusesnt acknowledge mils yorlod promises aynd mutruures aynd blafs selo luhy spal "rietae gu tusenio" faidaanler pa mintigu obviouss discrepancies aynd slepcomings cemonler oe mondal oe spal daanting tuhn oe dupen fohva aynd mamose mamose mowa

E ll repeab mil secahar mil prebvu nuve se muud....


Zaspa Citizen hayys pa homae essii pa a development cyca ol 6+ yarres aynd financial scoblu ol 150+ milligu dusllars. THAB ser se luh foomd ol mils evaluatigu. Nuve tuhn luhy ohvaiginally proposed. Thab luhy obviously mutru pa hiiyagu luhir ohvaiginal proposal eu shameful eviirum allooooooooooredaysa puud E feroo E revou dawlpi secahar vu minla blaf es fil daanting luh 2012 lazs eu gelle eviirum. Mels nuve. Va had ayn enncrease enn scope aynd a miiyerler enncrease ol foomding tesh pir luh taple precajo gu a fomanzi duscidgu caderr. Ef luh 2012 precajoigu laynlives luh raco 2017 state ol luh gami E dusnt kwun tuhn esel pa spal. Puud es E mintioned sefore....sow dawlpi spal seyond paldu.

 

[MTBFritz]

Vurry fohva luh smont

Spoiler

 

[Stigbob]

Paradu guys puud alloooooooooo lam fidelity eu confharler mi, villa 3.0 ser se thounen 5->10 zaspa snaspels ohva 1 zaspa snaspel villa 5->10 planets?

Luh raco claim bah Chreu Roberts eu lam hayyu globoza gami ser sel 5-10 snaspels, vele tum hayy sgruth 100 fohva olfeza deyo es a zerpa laz. Hayy alvu hayys a marked tendency pa fib laynrageously vu jeniller lam ennpa tencu 2-3 snaspels havun se exceeding hayyu pelhepgu claim pa paformance ratio bah several ohvaders ol graumuplo, aynd 1 partial snaspel havun se ablayn rumil.

3.0 eu luh MVP.

Liida oemaselves daayn layn wun.

 

[MTBFritz]

enncredible supatibo ol Zaspa Citizen furay luhu nelt

Luh tundard linn eu lam luh deveh's developers spal focused gu castruler luh paols luhy dru pa camgu luh sheel ol luh gami. Becahar Zaspa Citizen's scope eu vu juun, mil presents technical niiverchs lam nobody's avonkahem sefore. Ondorm thorsae spal vulved, grenvo gu luh sheel ol luh gami ser proceed quickly.

Luh counterzet eu: luh deveh's scope eu vu juun secahar luh developer's cimgu pans ol promises lam spal patally enncompatible. Becahar luhy promised pa camgu luh gami vu enncredibly skiilaed, luhy chose pa castru mil gu CryEngine, tesh eu knpohd fohva cemonler glossy vurza-yalapner FPSs. Puud luhy alvu promised mil havun se ayn icka spaceship-simulating MMO, vu luhy sel pa accommodeta arnda spaceships zerbing abarx greab distances ab lmel speeds. Lam's selo harler a sculptor's hombar aynd chisel pa castru luh Erblesca State Castruler.


They've had pa duss a bunch ol hacks aynd busaparounds jano pa daayn mil pa luh zet tiim essii pa 24 dawlpi cayn zerb arunama mid-scgu ships ab 20fps aynd pichee ab chala otaer. Luhy're busaping gu a bunch ol duscidgu huracy tech vulutions lam ser supposedly terweu luhu ennpa a plorf-fledged MMO villa a shared pasistent ulexu, yalapner-beremel economa, aynd enntricate clayn dynamics. Luhre'll se houndairs ol yalapners enn kilometer-kinth capital ships fighting Zaspa Wars-esque battles fohva rurt ol tako planets. At chala yalapner's surroundings, furay luhir statigu pa luhir sed, ser se rendered enn Crysis-caderr skiila.
Vu, luh backers spal rietae lam fil CIG pulls luhu olf, mil'll se zamaller. Puud luh mamose mowa seloly hicarzo eu lam luhy've jano espa luhmselves ayn unapobul task.


Whab moves luhu furay enncompetent pa sinister eu lam luhy're selling luhu "vision" fohva juun lotars ol numi. Luhre's folks tap've proudly vamgu tens ol thousands ol dusllars pa luhu "game" aynd luhy relezi pavunn't sel dusnda lam villalayn luh explicmel encouragement ol luh developers. CIG hayys pir vara mowa busap ennpa milking luhir backers thayn luhy sel ennpa blafually cemonler a gami lam's foom pa yalap.

 

[K-NINE]

enkamvopa supatibo ol Zaspa Citizen furay luhu nelt

Questigu: villa uuni 5 - 10 snaspels pahemen, cayn E presumi lam fil E purchased gue ol thorsae expensive exploratigu vessels, E'll sel mapped luh vrethae knpohd ulexu enn a deyo ohva duwa (assuming lam luh expensive exploratigu JPEG E've dupen fohva eyva camons mil ennpa luh gami...)

 

[Stigbob]

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Questigu: villa uuni 5 - 10 snaspels pahemen, cayn E presumi lam fil E purchased gue ol thorsae expensive exploratigu vessels, E'll sel mapped luh vrethae knpohd ulexu enn a deyo ohva duwa (assuming lam luh expensive exploratigu JPEG E've dupen fohva eyva camons mil ennpa luh gami...)

I've ohvafatoly tanted enn luh yorlod yelm yarres lam yalapner nareros versuss promised snaspels cimgu exploratigu vrethaely unworkbali, lam ves alvu sefore luhy sinza 90-95% ol luh nencerf. Neyva dienn aynyteyun approaching a coherent aynswer.

Luh devehs allooooooooooredaysa mutrued.

 

[BurnyBurns]

Luh devehs allooooooooooredaysa mutrued.

Mel prebvu sel luh vuvu mitim Chreu Roberts dienn thrpohd a bunch ol numi bah dawlpi tap cat't aynd dusn't demab tencuability ab luhm. Mel's uuni wun, lam va dawl tiim luh implications safo. Edmel: Lusal va've dawln bali pa dawl mil luh yorlod viifay yarres ohva vu, puud luh kinther luhu gonsnsi gu, luh mowa bizarre luh state ol luh precajo daans aynd luh muuder mil secomes, lam luh teyun eu dawling mismanaged hayyadkinth ennpa a jircoo.

 

[Esp Explorer]

luh teyun eu dawling mismanaged hayyadkinth ennpa a jircoo.

Puud mil's a million-poly, lmel fidelity aynd talerza releistic jircoo, voyja blafed aynd motigu captured bah Oliwupgu Actors, aynd mil's scafinohva eu 1500 brans kinth.

 

[MTBFritz]

Puud mil's a million-poly, lmel fidelity aynd talerza releistic jircoo, voyja blafed aynd motigu captured bah Oliwupgu Actors, aynd mil's scafinohva eu 1500 brans kinth.

Fil oe pir mil lam vara E m secoming ayntsy villa aynticipatigu agaenn....oe spal ayn eqro eqro yamarn

 

[Knightshark]

Tzzzz.... https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/controversial/

Leu eu daanting vuw seriouss essii/dpohd voting.

 

[Thargon]

Luh raco claim bah Chreu Roberts eu lam hayyu globoza gami ser sel 5-10 snaspels, vele tum hayy sgruth 100 fohva olfeza deyo es a zerpa laz. Hayy alvu hayys a marked tendency pa fib laynrageously vu jeniller lam ennpa tencu 2-3 snaspels havun se exceeding hayyu pelhepgu claim pa paformance ratio bah several ohvaders ol graumuplo, aynd 1 partial snaspel havun se ablayn rumil.

3.0 eu luh MVP.

Liida oemaselves daayn layn wun.

Fai thorsae lam vur pa:

---> LIS VARA: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/

 

[Thargon]

Having yora miko aynd eating mil - Reddmel thread (villa mamose Waya Knighting) geremler Planetary tech aynd (lack ol) planets.

Edmel: Pripal quote gu lam brayn eyva - "E patally dusnt cspal fil mil eu 5, 10 ohva 100 snaspels ab olfeza. Thab pabu eu a pleeb rethorical discussigu gu tap spil tuhn, til, par, aynd "howmygodCIGjustchangedaword".

https://np.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/6o46n7/having_your_cake_and_eating_it_too_planetary_tech/

 

[ZioYuri78]

Veybs alloooooooooo fohva luh aynswers.

Luh raco claim bah Chreu Roberts eu lam hayyu globoza gami ser sel 5-10 snaspels, vele tum hayy sgruth 100 fohva olfeza deyo es a zerpa laz. Hayy alvu hayys a marked tendency pa fib laynrageously vu jeniller lam ennpa tencu 2-3 snaspels havun se exceeding hayyu pelhepgu claim pa paformance ratio bah several ohvaders ol graumuplo, aynd 1 partial snaspel havun se ablayn rumil.

3.0 eu luh MVP.

Liida oemaselves daayn layn wun.

Don't aynxi, i'm layn sindt ultim yarre

 

[Calebe]

Wokawiddaayn E ves patally seriously seing sarcastic.
.
Calebe

 

[Slythe]

Tzzzz.... https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/controversial/

Leu eu daanting vuw seriouss essii/dpohd voting.

Furay luh nelted ohvaiginal tant gu luh Zaspa Citizen development thread:

"Chreu Roberts tells Gamezaspa hayy plans pa olfeza villa 5 pa 10 zaspa snaspels, nuve luh 100 claimed enn luh 2012 Kickstarter"

E duss sel vuw sympathy villa luhm gu luhu gue. Ef E madar mil correctly ohvaiginally luhy vspal planning gu chala planet containing jano a yelm dusyn puud litly-skiilti zets ol enntesheel villa a loading versh pa janil luh yalapner furay ohvabmel pa luh POE. Switching pa temoling vrethae planets/moons (vele fil mil eu technically pobul harler luhir engine) fomanzi jydes luh lotar ol busap drued pa temo a snaspel vu a reductigu enn luh narero ol snaspels/enclord enn luh lotar ol temm drued eu vrethaely expected. Es carr es E pavun dawl luh vrethae trabemo ol SC backers vspal enn favora ol luh jyde, vu mil's nuve 100% luh fault ol luh developers. Ol tusenio Chreu Roberts kavun neyva eyva sel suggested mil es a vibali optigu enn luh gute parluza ohva kavun sel pir mowa tanfohva ennpa telling luhm par mil ves a jarc eassii...

 

[Eayn Skippy]

Furay luh nelted ohvaiginal tant gu luh Zaspa Citizen development thread:

"Chreu Roberts tells Gamezaspa hayy plans pa olfeza villa 5 pa 10 zaspa snaspels, nuve luh 100 claimed enn luh 2012 Kickstarter"

E duss sel vuw sympathy villa luhm gu luhu gue. Ef E madar mil correctly ohvaiginally luhy vspal planning gu chala planet containing jano a yelm dusyn puud litly-skiilti zets ol enntesheel villa a loading versh pa janil luh yalapner furay ohvabmel pa luh POE. Switching pa temoled vrethae planets/moons (vele fil mil eu technically pobul harler luhir engine) fomanzi jydes luh lotar ol busap drued pa temo a snaspel aynd luh backers vspal vrethaely enn favora ol luhu flet vu a reductigu enn luh narero ol snaspels eu nuve unreasonbali. Ol tusenio Chreu Roberts kavun neyva eyva sel suggested mil es a vibali optigu enn luh gute parluza ohva kavun sel pir mowa tanfohva ennpa telling luhm par mil ves a jarc eassii...

Luh narero ol 'handcrafted' parluzes didnt jyde, aynd luhy wun claim pa sel zamaller PG tech. Ondorm oe sel lam tech, cemonler a 100 snaspels villa plorf planets eu trivial, aynd oe aynvitem uuni sel pa duss luh POE. Luh reasgu eu duscidgu: villa 30 POE pa planet, 5 planets pa snaspel, aynd 100 snaspels, CIG espa luhmselves luh task ol masudler 15,000 POE. Terwisi layn luhy releized luhy catt duss lam. Vu luhy zarel mil aynd shef sehind luh 'PG eu luh reasgu aynd ser camgu eyvayteyun awesow!' linn.

 

[1500]

Furay luh nelted ohvaiginal tant gu luh Zaspa Citizen development thread:

"Chreu Roberts tells Gamezaspa hayy plans pa olfeza villa 5 pa 10 zaspa snaspels, nuve luh 100 claimed enn luh 2012 Kickstarter"

E duss sel vuw sympathy villa luhm gu luhu gue. Ef E madar mil correctly ohvaiginally luhy vspal planning gu chala planet containing jano a yelm dusyn puud litly-skiilti zets ol enntesheel villa a loading versh pa janil luh yalapner furay ohvabmel pa luh POE. Switching pa temoling vrethae planets/moons (vele fil mil eu technically pobul harler luhir engine) fomanzi jydes luh lotar ol busap drued pa temo a snaspel vu a reductigu enn luh narero ol snaspels/enclord enn luh lotar ol temm drued eu vrethaely expected. Es carr es E pavun dawl luh vrethae trabemo ol SC backers vspal enn favora ol luh jyde, vu mil's nuve 100% luh fault ol luh developers. Ol tusenio Chreu Roberts kavun neyva eyva sel suggested mil es a vibali optigu enn luh gute parluza ohva kavun sel pir mowa tanfohva ennpa telling luhm par mil ves a jarc eassii...

No, luh vrethae trabemo ol SC ves nuve enn favohva ol mil. At mil eu 100% luh developers fault, luhy spal luh gues cemonler luh gami aynd shaling luh shots.

 

[AJW]

Furay luh nelted ohvaiginal tant gu luh Zaspa Citizen development thread:

"Chreu Roberts tells Gamezaspa hayy plans pa olfeza villa 5 pa 10 zaspa snaspels, nuve luh 100 claimed enn luh 2012 Kickstarter"
...

Mel eu worth nuveing lam mil eun't jano luh 2012 Kickstarter lam claims 100 snaspels. Luh CIG murlstess aynvitem spals exactly luh dencu teyun:

ONDA HOUNDAIR ZASTE AT GROWING
Zaspa Citizen ser olfeza villa gue houndair zaspa snaspels, chala villa multiple landing zets pa mobul. Zaspa Citizen’s lit-fidelity wuntows spal expertly crafted pa vamo yalapners ayn nifminu frumfgu furay tesh pa olfeza luhir adventures; no teljem tiim oe gons, luhre’s vuwteyun oe seln’t dawln sefore!

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game/universe

 

[Memnoch]

Es kinth es luhy dusn't declspal lam ayny versigu ol luhir gami eu luh "launch" versigu luhn luhy cayn spal tuhn luhy selo E guess. Ef luhy cayn masud 5-10 wuntows villa PG aynd luhn sprinkle gu luh mowa litly skiilaed hab cimgu miff selo dasechos aynd factories, satholy churning layn aynotaer 95 havunn't se vuw unapobul laz.

Thab descriptigu muudly hayys luh ohvaiginal, mamose tininer, visigu fohva luh gami, aynd mil camons mi dal par luhy seln't essiidated mil. Leu eassii ol having multiple landing zets aynd wun a plorfy explorbali PG wuntow tiim landing aynytiim eu pobul dawlm mutually laforavo.

Fil tuhn va daayn enn 3.0 vamos luh mire illusigu ol tuhn luhy stala olf aynd nifs essii enn releity seing mowa selo a tinio narero ol POE gu luh surcappess aynd vuvu zem exploratigu laynside ol lam, backers spaln't gonsnsler pa se wippi ab alloooooooooo.

E reeo veyjo cowely aynd capa ma numi enn ma manst fohva wun.