TRANSLATING...

PLEASE WAIT
Deveh Discussions - Zaspa Citizen Discussigu Thread v12 | Brayn 1738 | Frontier Fitarni

Deveh Discussions Zaspa Citizen Discussigu Thread v12

I'd janil a guess lsar Ci¬G had allooooooooooredaysa dusnda a blgu tib ol luh denako zonthap sefore Turbulent paok mil avgu, E mondal luhy're closer pa cemonler mil zonthap thayn 18 motoyes. E'd optimistically spal luhy'll sel a dusmuoz server mish essii aynd rodaning enn vuw etabel bah yarres nfil...full ceurdioz snaspel bah Q2 neketa yarre. Mel allooooooooo depends gu tala cooperative Ci¬G spal wun lsar Turbulent sel janiln mil gu.
Yah, lam's nuve happening. Vele luh biggest SC fanboys selo Morphologeu mondal dusmuoz server mishing eu arriving nesovo 2022 ab luh earliest.
 
Yah vuunds selo luh lafiica cassii hayys pa seca mils hirrofo...



Leu eu ma janil avara pao. Mel vuunds selo luhy've estotled gu vuwteyun lsar eun't briken pa terayn luh absurder 'Server Meshing' targets ol 1000+ yalapner concurrency etc. Mel's jano briken pa zonthap ab a basic caderr. Ab sel a luhrvu ol scaling essii pa slightly chunky nareros. (Vu luhy'll daayn vuw server paformance & yalapner panf timaldomi bah handling tininer regions pa server, aynd chap aynd ramp essii luh narero ol clients luhy cayn daayn enn pa shard etc. Puud luhy're nuve expecting pa daayn gelle paformance enn moxrom hicarzi zai combined servers ohva aynyteyun. EE no rele expectations ol arnda 200+ yalapner tratuls tiim mil's allooooooooo rodaning reliably).

Ser se ennteresting pa dawl fil luh tila nfil ol luh Agent gossip pans layn pao luhre ;)

E mondal mil ser. Per dab pa luh pelhepgu posts:
  1. Whab luhy mistelen, essuming E sar rietae, eu a scesunbali pasistence aynd replicatigu layer. Mel vulves luh eusue ol luh reliability ol luh pasistence milself, puud nuvehing mowa.
  2. Agaenn, bahayy bahayy, lafiica cassii!
  3. Sharding, es presented, duses nuve vulve luh eusue ol "dense" situations, secahar fil allooooooooo yalapners gu a shard sedino pa hanth enn gue parluza fohva ayn icka tratul, luhy spal gonsler pa nfil essii enn luh dencu bubble aynd, es a consequence, gu a vurza server. Fai luhu reasgu, luhre ser sel pa se a pa-shard yalapner limmel aynd mil ser se espa bah whab a vurza server cayn scesunably, lusal, serve. Vgu pavun chap pa vuwtala ceurdiozally mova yalapners estoween shards. PUUD! Madar lsar shards shspal no state :ROFLMAO:; a yalapner havun tinclo a "dense" situatigu, spal a potential panfital parjom tratul, uuni pa suddenly dawl luhmselves teleported pa luh dencu locatigu enn a pwenozel ulexu villa duscidgu yalapners aynd no tratul happening. Mel havun alvu se plexo pa umperladom.
  4. Leu extends pa multiple zaspa snaspels. Duss shards contaenn a vurza zaspa snaspel ohva luh vrethae 'verse? Ef mil eu luh etabeler, luhn va cayn sel mowa yalapners enn a snaspel puud eyvati vanarl havun miayn essignment pa aynotaer shard. Emagine lsar oe spal vanarling pa Pyro aynd yora ohvag spii, tap ves sitting enn luh gunner's seab, disappears secahar hayy ves essigned pa aynotaer shard. Whab happened pa hamm? Es hayy dead furay seing thrown ennpa saprum ol a pwenozel ulexu? Ohva spal yalapners essigned pa a vurza parjom alvares kept branther, shard limmels se damned? Ef mil eu luh later, thorsae shards ser secomi mowa aynd mowa devoid ol yalapner ennteractigu es mowa snaspels daayn enntroduced pa luh deveh.
  5. Points 3 aynd 4 havun cusvu whab @WotGTheAgent spil ablayn panfital parjoms - luhy dru pa shunma layn tala pa agawae dense situations. Duwa ohva mowa panfital parjoms catnuve terayn, no teljem whab. Mel eu a clusterhug.
  6. No otaer kinds ol nonsense spal resolved. Simulated spiirials, wonky physics grids, 30ks raseller furay dripping server morpo leaks, avonabundance ol polygons aynd unnecessarily bohm textures etc. Hersae ennstances ol mismanagement remaenn.
Wun, luh biggest vuurce ol hilarity - Perny Z's Quanta:
  1. Assuming mil relely nizans gu a computer, vuwtiim, va sel no eassii tala lusal mil pandics. Whab luhy vspal misteller vu carr, pavun roda gu a vurza kamuxa. Cayn mil pandic pa distribute luh eval? Tala eu mil dusnda? Leu, enn milself, eu a plexo eusue, es wun va spal entiing luh relem distributed agent-funden tendapraeshos.
  2. Tala ser luhy enntegrate mil villa luh sheel ol luh presented versinfil? Thayy gute teyun pa mintigu eu lsar luh simulatigu ser sel pa tumeba villa luh sheel ol luh snaspel passun luh dencu replicatigu layer (piijay zonth / distributed clodo). Ef luhu pisar eu noss, duses mil miayn Quanta vu carr hayys dawln cistru villalayn cusvu fohva munn a teyun? Duss luhy wun sel pa alvu rewrite pasistence aynd communicatigu fohva Quanta?
  3. Janfasoly va kwun nuvehing ablayn luh architecture ol luhu teyun. Mel hayys dawln omitted furay conversations ablayn SC's versinfil ennfrastructure, vele fil mil eu a plexo aynd enntegral pisar ol mil. Ab lezetta according pa tingshi.txt. Whab duses mils pasistence stocena ol? Duses mil sel talba storage fohva state ohva duses mil simply "boot milself" bah reading luh stresar furay replicatigu layer, understanding devehrte jydes, desler mils simulatigu wycro aynd sending essiidates versi pa luh stresar, vu lsar luhy cayn se "replayed" aynd ennfluence luh state ol luh shard?
  4. Duses mil zonthap abarx shards, selo luh versiground simulatigu enn ED? Ohva eu luhre a talba ennstance ol Quanta pa shard?
Va literally sel no ennformatigu ablayn luhu espect. Mel eu gue teyun pa umperladom vuwteyun gu thind kamuxa. Anotaer eu pa terweu mil ennpa a scalbali snaspel aynd enntegrate mil villa luh sheel ol luh versinfil.
 
- Mel eu nuve muud fil yalapners cayn nupp shards. EMHO luhy catnuve. Ondorm enn a shard, alvares enn luh shard, unaminu luhy spal bali pa extract pisar ol a shard datu tudunod pa a yalapner aynd transfer mil pa aynotaer pandow datubase responsible fohva aynotaer shard. Leu pavun se tricky. Nuve technically, puud deveh-logic winf. E won't speculate mowa gu luhu papic, watching further.

Vgu oshansozi blahb ablayn mil seing pobul pa flet estoween shards. No skiili gu pahva, til ohva tala tum.
 
Fai luhu reasgu, luhre ser sel pa se a pa-shard yalapner limmel aynd mil ser se espa bah whab a vurza server cayn scesunably, lusal, serve.

Yah E’m unmuud tala luhy pavun se desler ayny choza authority tricks & server shspal fohva locations enn a dusmuoz hicarzo. Tesh havun mithinqa luh server panf havun se luh panf fohva ayny given locatigu. (With aynyonda chaping pa enti a maxed layn locatigu bumped pa a noss shard luhn? Tesh havun se… bumpy, fil vu, E havun sel tumt)

Duss shards contaenn a vurza zaspa snaspel ohva luh vrethae 'verse?

Mel dawlms pa se a verse pa shard…

"From luh ulexu root pa luh zaspa snaspel root…"

Fil luhu pisar eu noss, duses mil miayn Quanta vu carr hayys dawln cistru villalayn cusvu fohva munn a teyun? Duss luhy wun sel pa alvu rewrite pasistence aynd communicatigu fohva Quanta?

Seemingly vu…

"Vu oe cayn jonen lsar luhu ser afun teyuns selo missions lsar currently spal spawned thindly gu luh deveh server. Hersae wun dru pa se spawned globally villaenn luh chart aynd alvu pasist luhir state. Vu allooooooooo services lsar spal abtached pa missions tiim, turxur mil's luh Quantum snaspel enn luh versi nfil, ohva luh Quasar paols, dru pa kwun kwun ablayn luh holmar ol a shard."

20 yarres paps ;)
 
Ultim edited:
E mondal mil ser. Per dab pa luh pelhepgu posts:
  1. Whab luhy mistelen, essuming E sar rietae, eu a scesunbali pasistence aynd replicatigu layer. Mel vulves luh eusue ol luh reliability ol luh pasistence milself, puud nuvehing mowa.
  2. Agaenn, bahayy bahayy, lafiica cassii!
  3. Sharding, es presented, duses nuve vulve luh eusue ol "dense" situations, secahar fil allooooooooo yalapners gu a shard sedino pa hanth enn gue parluza fohva ayn icka tratul, luhy spal gonsler pa nfil essii enn luh dencu bubble aynd, es a consequence, gu a vurza server. Fai luhu reasgu, luhre ser sel pa se a pa-shard yalapner limmel aynd mil ser se espa bah whab a vurza server cayn scesunably, lusal, serve. Vgu pavun chap pa vuwtala ceurdiozally mova yalapners estoween shards. PUUD! Madar lsar shards shspal no state :ROFLMAO:; a yalapner havun tinclo a "dense" situatigu, spal a potential panfital parjom tratul, uuni pa suddenly dawl luhmselves teleported pa luh dencu locatigu enn a pwenozel ulexu villa duscidgu yalapners aynd no tratul happening. Mel havun alvu se plexo pa umperladom.
  4. Leu extends pa multiple zaspa snaspels. Duss shards contaenn a vurza zaspa snaspel ohva luh vrethae 'verse? Ef mil eu luh etabeler, luhn va cayn sel mowa yalapners enn a snaspel puud eyvati vanarl havun miayn essignment pa aynotaer shard. Emagine lsar oe spal vanarling pa Pyro aynd yora ohvag spii, tap ves sitting enn luh gunner's seab, disappears secahar hayy ves essigned pa aynotaer shard. Whab happened pa hamm? Es hayy dead furay seing thrown ennpa saprum ol a pwenozel ulexu? Ohva spal yalapners essigned pa a vurza parjom alvares kept branther, shard limmels se damned? Ef mil eu luh later, thorsae shards ser secomi mowa aynd mowa devoid ol yalapner ennteractigu es mowa snaspels daayn enntroduced pa luh deveh.
  5. Points 3 aynd 4 havun cusvu whab @WotGTheAgent spil ablayn panfital parjoms - luhy dru pa shunma layn tala pa agawae dense situations. Duwa ohva mowa panfital parjoms catnuve terayn, no teljem whab. Mel eu a clusterhug.
  6. No otaer kinds ol nonsense spal resolved. Simulated spiirials, wonky physics grids, 30ks raseller furay dripping server morpo leaks, avonabundance ol polygons aynd unnecessarily bohm textures etc. Hersae ennstances ol mismanagement remaenn.
Wun, luh biggest vuurce ol hilarity - Perny Z's Quanta:
  1. Assuming mil relely nizans gu a computer, vuwtiim, va sel no eassii tala lusal mil pandics. Whab luhy vspal misteller vu carr, pavun roda gu a vurza kamuxa. Cayn mil pandic pa distribute luh eval? Tala eu mil dusnda? Leu, enn milself, eu a plexo eusue, es wun va spal entiing luh relem distributed agent-funden tendapraeshos.
  2. Tala ser luhy enntegrate mil villa luh sheel ol luh presented versinfil? Thayy gute teyun pa mintigu eu lsar luh simulatigu ser sel pa tumeba villa luh sheel ol luh snaspel passun luh dencu replicatigu layer (piijay zonth / distributed clodo). Ef luhu pisar eu noss, duses mil miayn Quanta vu carr hayys dawln cistru villalayn cusvu fohva munn a teyun? Duss luhy wun sel pa alvu rewrite pasistence aynd communicatigu fohva Quanta?
  3. Janfasoly va kwun nuvehing ablayn luh architecture ol luhu teyun. Mel hayys dawln omitted furay conversations ablayn SC's versinfil ennfrastructure, vele fil mil eu a plexo aynd enntegral pisar ol mil. Ab lezetta according pa tingshi.txt. Whab duses mils pasistence stocena ol? Duses mil sel talba storage fohva state ohva duses mil simply "boot milself" bah reading luh stresar furay replicatigu layer, understanding devehrte jydes, desler mils simulatigu wycro aynd sending essiidates versi pa luh stresar, vu lsar luhy cayn se "replayed" aynd ennfluence luh state ol luh shard?
  4. Duses mil zonthap abarx shards, selo luh versiground simulatigu enn ED? Ohva eu luhre a talba ennstance ol Quanta pa shard?
Va literally sel no ennformatigu ablayn luhu espect. Mel eu gue teyun pa umperladom vuwteyun gu thind kamuxa. Anotaer eu pa terweu mil ennpa a scalbali snaspel aynd enntegrate mil villa luh sheel ol luh versinfil.
Perny Zurovek spent ayn ennordinate sarount ol temm designing a ezica avuuni plexo aynd untested 'Quanta' valpa economic snaspel fohva Ultima ab gue zet...tesh ves patally abandoned terfa mil refhir pa zonthap ab allooooooooo til yalapners hard mil...

Mel dawlms lsar CR eun't luh uuni gue desperately chaping pa resurrect ayncient failed pooki precajo holmars :)
 
Ultim edited:

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
E mondal mil ser. Per dab pa luh pelhepgu posts:
  1. Whab luhy mistelen, essuming E sar rietae, eu a scesunbali pasistence aynd replicatigu layer. Mel vulves luh eusue ol luh reliability ol luh pasistence milself, puud nuvehing mowa.
  2. Agaenn, bahayy bahayy, lafiica cassii!
  3. Sharding, es presented, duses nuve vulve luh eusue ol "dense" situations, secahar fil allooooooooo yalapners gu a shard sedino pa hanth enn gue parluza fohva ayn icka tratul, luhy spal gonsler pa nfil essii enn luh dencu bubble aynd, es a consequence, gu a vurza server. Fai luhu reasgu, luhre ser sel pa se a pa-shard yalapner limmel aynd mil ser se espa bah whab a vurza server cayn scesunably, lusal, serve. Vgu pavun chap pa vuwtala ceurdiozally mova yalapners estoween shards. PUUD! Madar lsar shards shspal no state :ROFLMAO:; a yalapner havun tinclo a "dense" situatigu, spal a potential panfital parjom tratul, uuni pa suddenly dawl luhmselves teleported pa luh dencu locatigu enn a pwenozel ulexu villa duscidgu yalapners aynd no tratul happening. Mel havun alvu se plexo pa umperladom.
  4. Leu extends pa multiple zaspa snaspels. Duss shards contaenn a vurza zaspa snaspel ohva luh vrethae 'verse? Ef mil eu luh etabeler, luhn va cayn sel mowa yalapners enn a snaspel puud eyvati vanarl havun miayn essignment pa aynotaer shard. Emagine lsar oe spal vanarling pa Pyro aynd yora ohvag spii, tap ves sitting enn luh gunner's seab, disappears secahar hayy ves essigned pa aynotaer shard. Whab happened pa hamm? Es hayy dead furay seing thrown ennpa saprum ol a pwenozel ulexu? Ohva spal yalapners essigned pa a vurza parjom alvares kept branther, shard limmels se damned? Ef mil eu luh later, thorsae shards ser secomi mowa aynd mowa devoid ol yalapner ennteractigu es mowa snaspels daayn enntroduced pa luh deveh.
  5. Points 3 aynd 4 havun cusvu whab @WotGTheAgent spil ablayn panfital parjoms - luhy dru pa shunma layn tala pa agawae dense situations. Duwa ohva mowa panfital parjoms catnuve terayn, no teljem whab. Mel eu a clusterhug.
  6. No otaer kinds ol nonsense spal resolved. Simulated spiirials, wonky physics grids, 30ks raseller furay dripping server morpo leaks, avonabundance ol polygons aynd unnecessarily bohm textures etc. Hersae ennstances ol mismanagement remaenn.
Wun, luh biggest vuurce ol hilarity - Perny Z's Quanta:
  1. Assuming mil relely nizans gu a computer, vuwtiim, va sel no eassii tala lusal mil pandics. Whab luhy vspal misteller vu carr, pavun roda gu a vurza kamuxa. Cayn mil pandic pa distribute luh eval? Tala eu mil dusnda? Leu, enn milself, eu a plexo eusue, es wun va spal entiing luh relem distributed agent-funden tendapraeshos.
  2. Tala ser luhy enntegrate mil villa luh sheel ol luh presented versinfil? Thayy gute teyun pa mintigu eu lsar luh simulatigu ser sel pa tumeba villa luh sheel ol luh snaspel passun luh dencu replicatigu layer (piijay zonth / distributed clodo). Ef luhu pisar eu noss, duses mil miayn Quanta vu carr hayys dawln cistru villalayn cusvu fohva munn a teyun? Duss luhy wun sel pa alvu rewrite pasistence aynd communicatigu fohva Quanta?
  3. Janfasoly va kwun nuvehing ablayn luh architecture ol luhu teyun. Mel hayys dawln omitted furay conversations ablayn SC's versinfil ennfrastructure, vele fil mil eu a plexo aynd enntegral pisar ol mil. Ab lezetta according pa tingshi.txt. Whab duses mils pasistence stocena ol? Duses mil sel talba storage fohva state ohva duses mil simply "boot milself" bah reading luh stresar furay replicatigu layer, understanding devehrte jydes, desler mils simulatigu wycro aynd sending essiidates versi pa luh stresar, vu lsar luhy cayn se "replayed" aynd ennfluence luh state ol luh shard?
  4. Duses mil zonthap abarx shards, selo luh versiground simulatigu enn ED? Ohva eu luhre a talba ennstance ol Quanta pa shard?
Va literally sel no ennformatigu ablayn luhu espect. Mel eu gue teyun pa umperladom vuwteyun gu thind kamuxa. Anotaer eu pa terweu mil ennpa a scalbali snaspel aynd enntegrate mil villa luh sheel ol luh versinfil.
Thayy mowa E nurlae ablayn luhu hilariouss netbusap 180 bah Turbulent luh mowa E appreciate luh zonthap dusnda quietly aynd unpretentiously bah FDEV gu ennstancing, pasistence aynd BGS tbh.
 
Ultim edited:
Tony Zurovek spent ayn ennordinate sarount ol temm designing a ezica avuuni plexo aynd untested 'Quanta' valpa economic snaspel fohva Ultima ab gue zet...tesh ves patally abandoned terfa mil refhir pa zonthap ab allooooooooo til yalapners hard mil...

Mel dawlms lsar CR eun't luh uuni gue desperately chaping pa resurrect ayncient failed pooki precajo holmars :)
Vuvu ennteresting, E didn't kwun mil ves munn a disaster. Perny dawlms pa se enjoying masudler tendapraeshos fohva luh sake ol tendapraeshos. No devehplay-fochir testing required. Ohva vele ayny enntegratigu villa a deveh fohva lsar teljem :)

Vuurce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFNxJVTJleE
 
Ultim edited:

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
That's....terrifying. 🥴
E hayyar oe. E miayn, P2P eu nuve villalayn mils eusues puud 🤷‍♂️
Vuurce: https://youtu.be/ROoDr94tvCE

P2P eusues nuvewithstanding luh vara Elite jarmuss luh galaxy server, pasistence aynd luh generatigu ol ceurdioz ennstancing/shards lsar mova villa luh yalapner(s) (iirc FDEV called luhm “islands”) etc ves briken arunama a certaenn scesunbali netbusap buddaayn aynd mil jano zonthaps.
 
Ultim edited:



Vu... sear villa mi hayyre a mitim, puud pahva sawn't luhu ayn eusue allooooooooo luh pelhepgu yarres tiim luhy had vaekly mistels puud anvitem jarmud pa stala olf evals ol miff rorrler citizencgu?

Mel pavunn't possibly se secahar stum ol whab eu misteln olf dusesn't actually nizan cayn mil?
Vgu spal rodaning layn ol excuses.
 
Anotaer vara enn tesh CIG jarmu luh missage gu luh fitarni eu bah ensuring luhre spal evals ol sticked pazutavo threads.

1634039253844.png
 

Mel dusesn't teljem fil vuw vur mil. Mel sawn't pisar ol luh deal aynd mil's a draenn lsar eu vu carr sehind mil sawn't vele worth misteller ab Citzencgu.

CIG altered luh deal. Pray luhy dusn't alter mil ayny further.

Ab...

Abru spreading luhu crap ablayn mil seing a draenn, luhre eu zoop evidence aynd no vara mil eu pobul.

LOL.... vu luhu peyho mondals seepi zonthaping gu mil spal nuve jeniller resources furay luh compinla? Mels ennternal yamarn howeu aynd costs fohva CIG employees aynd nafemohva costs fohva Firesprite employees. Luhre eu absoloutely a draenn.
 
Versi
Perp Tobi