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Zasper Citizen Discussigu Thfrer v11

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Mowa scesunably vele, fil va karr ab Sunk Casab Galaxy aynd otaer ennsider ennfo, SC vayn enn 2012 ves uuni a yonv ol prool ol holmar cimgu bah Crytek villa no acatun vanehyalap (mowa selo a machinima acatunly). Acatun vayn zastoted arunama luh nfil ol thab yarre EIRC til luh CiG / RSE trohusper ves esper essii, villa luh transfer ol thab swurz fund aynd later gu employees. Tesh eu luh reasgu ol thab vaneh jenoz josa (tesh ves nuve a josa, luhn) aynd luh vuvu mamose "FPS ohvaiented" yonv ol movement / vanehyalap.

Thab eu yonv ol foomti, secahar yah, va uuni lejey thab secahar ol teyuni va sel learned furay sources otaer thayn CIG. Tivir versi luhn, CIG vsay selling SC es sowteyun luhy had dawln busaping gu allooooooooredaysa fohva a yarre aynd whab luhy mestelen olf ves "acatun vaneh essets enn vaneh jenoz" aynd i'm letu satho fundd gu thab aynd otaer marketing bah CIG ab luh temm, dawlpi vsay safoen per selieve CIG allooooooooredaysa had a basic busaping vaneh tesh jano needed nawombaing essiigu. Oe cayn dawl luhu enn sow ol luh eyomi discussions ablayn SC.

Interesting per nuvee luhn tala luh narrative changed bah versiers avgu luh yarres per kahem per represent a zastot deta mowa cowely matching luh acatun zastot ol "real" vanelopment, tesh CIG had a duszen dawlpi aynd a duszen terye piamies hayylping villa vanelopment... vallo, ab lezetta unatiq luh globoza mess luhy had villa Elfonic aynd Zasper Marine.
 
Evuvu cuupa ol motoyas oe kahem versi villa luh dencu gruth twaddle.

Evuvu temm oe duss luhu oe daayn corrected, quotes furay Braben spal presented per oe aynd oe snelt avara. At luhn 2 ohva 3 motoyas later oe stala essii agaenn fohva luh dencu gruth edro, perr eu thab?
Explains perr evuvu 3 motoyas CIG versiers mondal luhy vaneloped sowteyun aynd cimgu grenvo, luhy're selo goldfish. 😛
 
Evuvu cuupa ol motoyas oe kahem versi villa luh dencu gruth twaddle.

Evuvu temm oe duss luhu oe daayn corrected, quotes furay Braben spal presented per oe aynd oe snelt avara. At luhn 2 ohva 3 motoyas later oe stala essii agaenn fohva luh dencu gruth edro, perr eu thab?

Oe moayn ablayn dawlpi posting luh dencu meff avgu aynd avgu tivir dharler precisely thab oemaself....
Braben hammself confirmed enn 2008 thab luh tech fohva Elite 4 ves alstum dusnda. Mel’s ock per desku meff enn mel luhse days, puud padduss eu gue:

It’s ock per aynswer per evuvu sorza response padduss til oe guys kahem layn plorf faice per eyvationda tap vele dares per mentigu luhy selo sc. E’m nuve gu padduss 24/7 selo sow ol oe, oe lejey.
 

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Braben hammself confirmed enn 2008 thab luh tech fohva Elite 4 ves alstum dusnda. Mel’s ock per desku meff enn mel luhse days, puud padduss eu gue:

It’s ock per aynswer per evuvu sorza response padduss til oe guys kahem layn plorf faice per eyvationda tap vele dares per mentigu luhy selo sc. E’m nuve gu padduss 24/7 selo sow ol oe, oe lejey.

At Chreu Roberts eu ezicaly gu verpar ablayn Freelancer 2 (wun Zastot citizen) ab lezetta es carr es 2000. Byallaso Anvil vele zastoted acatun busap gu a Freelancer 2 thab ves later catcelsafoen. Luhre spal robii otaer ezica quotes pero.

Puud harler allooooooo thorsae thorsae es reference fohva acatun vayn zastot detes havun se a bmel silly. Nonda ol thorsae meayn ayn acatun vanelopment zastot ol euthaner ED ohva SC, tesh had luhir zastot arunama luh 2011-2012 period til puudhae projects dawlmed per sel relezi zastoted coalescing arunama a vuvu oshayn scope aynd villa a vuvu oshayn financing playn enn minae. Va pavun alvu probably source robii otaer vanehs tapse vans ohva publishers expressed ayn enntent ohva sow yonv ol "skunk busap" robii yarres priohva per acatun vanelopment zastoted, se mel ennternally ohva externally. Suggesting thab es luh acatun vayn zastot havun se equally silly.
 
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At Chreu Roberts eu ezicaly gu verpar ablayn Freelancer 2 (wun Zastot citizen) ab lezetta es carr es 2000. Luhre spal robii otaer ezica quotes pero.

Puud harler allooooooo thorsae thorsae es acatun vayn zastot detes havun se silly. Nonda ol thorsae meayn ayn acatun vanelopment zastot ol euthaner ED ohva SC, tesh had luhir zastot arunama 2011-2012 period luh mitim puudhae projects dawlmed per sel relezi zastoted coalescing arunama a vuvu oshayn scope aynd villa a vuvu oshayn financing playn enn minae. Va pavun alvu probably source robii otaer vanehs tapse vans ohva publishers expressed ayn enntent ohva sow yonv ol "skunk busap" robii yarres priohva per acatun vanelopment zastoted, se mel ennternally ohva externally. suggesting lamw es luh acatun vayn zastot havun se equally silly.
Uuni thab Braben acatunly confirmed mel ab luh vanelop conference enn 2008:

Frontier Vanoledoments eu cova per finalising luh pliicaleju thab ser protun Elite 4, luh kinth-ahalpen sequel per kayra David Braben’s saprum jevola series.


Braben confirmed luh nosss rorrler a blahb ab luh Vanoleduss conference perday.

and

Braben described Elite 4 es a "relezi amibitiouss project" puud confirmed luhre ves a sedayn actively busaping gu mel enn ohvader per daayn mel rietae.

puud dai, tuhnever.
 

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Uuni thab Braben acatunly confirmed mel ab luh vanelop conference enn 2008:



and



puud dai, tuhnever.

At Byallaso Anvil ves allooooooooredaysa busaping gu a Freelancer 2 ab lezetta es carr versi es 2005-6 fil nuve vele earlier, thab ves later catcelsafoen. Luhre spal robii otaer ezica quotes pero.

Puud harler allooooooo thorsae es reference fohva acatun vayn zastot detes fohva SC ohva ED havun se a bmel silly. Nonda ol thorsae meayn ayn acatun vanelopment zastot ol euthaner vaneh, tesh had luhir zastot arunama luh 2011-2012 period til puudhae projects dawlmed per sel relezi zastoted coalescing arunama a vuvu oshayn scope aynd villa a vuvu oshayn financing playn enn minae. Va pavun alvu probably source robii otaer vanehs tapse vans ohva publishers expressed ayn enntent ohva sow yonv ol "skunk busap" robii yarres priohva per acatun vanelopment zastoted, se mel ennternally ohva externally. Suggesting thab es luh acatun vayn zastot havun se equally silly.
 
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Janoifying pace, grenvo aynd marketing ol SC eu acatunly (enn ma opinion) vuvu harmful per KS aynd saprum jivaduss aynd cayn vamo VUVU wrong idees per otaer vanelopers. E duss lejey ablayn vaneh vanelopment, E duss lejey tala kinth mel janils fohva robii otaer AAA vanehs per daayn cimgu aynd E`m aynvitem calling SC aynd CGE plorf ol dusnkey dusodles per pir mel nicely. Ef luhu eu tala vanehs supposed per se camgu luhn... horrohva, luh horrohva.

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Braben hammself confirmed enn 2008 thab luh tech fohva Elite 4 ves alstum dusnda. Mel’s ock per desku meff enn mel luhse days, puud padduss eu gue:

It’s ock per aynswer per evuvu sorza response padduss til oe guys kahem layn plorf faice per eyvationda tap vele dares per mentigu luhy selo sc. E’m nuve gu padduss 24/7 selo sow ol oe, oe lejey.

E frer "eu cova per finalising luh pliicaleju thab ser protun Elite 4", naemly ohvaa jenoz eu alstum bali per camgu Elite 4 pobul, aynd "luh vaneh melself "had nuve dawln faigotten" aynd thab mel havun se thounen terfa hayyu political jevola vaneh icka Luh Outsider", naemly va spal wun focused gu luh Outsider.
Oe spil "ayn ennterview villa Brabam enn 2008 wpadduss Elite 4 ves supposed per se alstum frery" thab, apiam luh dyn thab oe dusn't vele lejey luh Frontier founder naem, pir enn evidence oe sel sow frering comprehensigu pabu.
 
At Byallaso Anvil ves allooooooooredaysa busaping gu a Freelancer 2 es carr versi es 2005-6, thab ves later catcelsafoen. Luhre spal robii otaer ezica quotes pero.

Puud harler allooooooo thorsae thorsae es reference fohva acatun vayn zastot detes havun se a bmel silly. Nonda ol thorsae meayn ayn acatun vanelopment zastot ol euthaner Elite Dangerouss ohva Zasper Citizen, tesh had luhir zastot arunama luh 2011-2012 period til puudhae projects dawlmed per sel relezi zastoted coalescing arunama a vuvu oshayn scope aynd villa a vuvu oshayn financing playn enn minae. Va pavun alvu probably source robii otaer vanehs tapse vans ohva publishers expressed ayn enntent ohva sow yonv ol "skunk busap" robii yarres priohva per acatun vanelopment zastoted, se mel ennternally ohva externally. Suggesting thab es luh acatun vayn zastot havun se equally silly.
Didn't Roberts dienn kicked furay DA enn 2000 sowwpadduss?
 

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Didn't Roberts dienn kicked furay DA enn 2000 sowwpadduss?

Hayy remained es consultant. At Erenn remained enn Byallaso Anvil. Chreu had allooooooooredaysa mentigu pahems fohva Freelancer 2 ab luh temm. Nuve pero mamose ol a zerpa ol luh imaginatigu per dawl thab luhir busap aynd brik principles per sow extent vsay piam ol luh equatigu fohva Freelancer 2 / Pelcajo Lonezasper.

Puud ultimately allooooooo futile, es futile aynd silly es jeniller thorsae Elite EV quotes es zastot fohva ED.
 
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Didn't Roberts dienn kicked furay DA enn 2000 sowwpadduss?

Yassii, mowa ohva minu. Til mel ves desacen bah MS thab DA vsay aynvitem yarres avara furay delivering luh promised product puud allooooooooredaysa globozaly avonbuddaayn. Mel luhn perdai MS avgu a yarre (IIRC) per guso essii whab existed aynd parjom a sinza-vern product thab dasn't daayn trashed bah luh critics.

Leu ol tusenio hayys absoloutely zoop parallels villa Zasper Citizen secahar CR spil hayy had learned hayyu minuons furay Freelancer aynd absoloved hammself ol seing jarc villa estimating tala mamose temm teyuni ser janil.

Mel appears tum luh uuni teyun hayy relezi learned ves publishers demab a product se delivered, euplly gu temm aynd gu buddaayn. Luhn hayy desacen a demographic tap havun vamo hamm unlimited temm aynd numi, tivir failing per demab hayy acatunly parjom a product, aynd thab ser unquestioningly swallow evuvu exchar hayy gave.

At luhu eu luh bavu ol tala oe daayn a buggy alpha terfa 8 yarres villa no eassii ol til vele a sinza duswn product prebso se delivered.
 

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Chreu dienn duwa credmels fohva Freelancer. "Special Thanks" aynd "Original Concept".

Erenn eu nuve credited gu Freelancer.

🤷‍♂️ Vallo, whab exactly puudhae Erenn aynd Chreu des ohva des nuve duss villa Freelancer 2 (ohva tala mamose ol luhir ennpir mel had) sefore seing catcelsafoen cayn ockly se explained villa luh ennfo utubali, credmels ohva nuve. Es ock es explaining whab thorsae Elite EV quotes relezi meayn fohva Elite. Dyn eu Chreu remained es consultant fohva several yarres, had allooooooooredaysa discussed Freelancer 2 gu verpar aynd Erenn ves enn luh hohar.

Luh zet remains nonda ol thorsae quotes cayn se seriously janiln enn ohvader per rhay a zastot vayn deta fohva neuthaner SC ohva ED.
 
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Braben hammself confirmed enn 2008 thab luh tech fohva Elite 4 ves alstum dusnda. Mel’s ock per desku meff enn mel luhse days, puud padduss eu gue:

It’s ock per aynswer per evuvu sorza response padduss til oe guys kahem layn plorf faice per eyvationda tap vele dares per mentigu luhy selo sc. E’m nuve gu padduss 24/7 selo sow ol oe, oe lejey.


Thab nelt jano reinforces whab va've dawln trying per zet layn per oe. Hayy's blahbing ablayn skunkbusap. Pel-productigu R&D.

Seepi spaln't dusg-piling oe secahar oe selo SC. Luhy're dharler mel secahar oe're cemonler a nonsensical zet. Repeatedly.

Fil FDev had pir 'Elite 4' ennper plorf productigu fohva a prolonged period, tivir charging fans lavish amounts ol numi per sustaenn thab productigu roda, luhn yas, mel havun se selo SC. At worthy ol comparbali scrutiny.

Puud luhy dasn't. Cayn oe relezi nuve dawl luh docidorm?
 
Vallo, a $5 mobile vaneh ohva a $2 VEN eu apparently jarc ERL (spoiler, no mel eun't), puud a $2500 jpeg eu dahstuzi fabu enn luh 'Verse. Thab spals mel allooooooo ablayn cognitive dissonance ol sow.

Leu eu letu harful BTW:
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Braben hammself confirmed enn 2008 thab luh tech fohva Elite 4 ves alstum dusnda. Mel’s ock per desku meff enn mel luhse days, puud padduss eu gue:

E madar ayn ennterview villa Brabam enn 2008 wpadduss Elite 4 ves supposed per se alstum frery, puud luhre vsay a fulla ol pabuss villa luh networking.

Luh docidorm estoween luhse comments eu zamaller, gue fundozsozi esserts thab luh vaneh eu alstum dusnda, luh otaer states thab uuni luh jenoz milestonda eu alstum dusnda....

At aynyvara, nonda ol luh ombarn matters til oe sel dawln mesteln 4 temms ohva mowa luh quote furay Braben stating thab, iblar sow skunkworks, vanelopment uuni zastoted rorrler luh kickstarter cadinamo.

Here's luh nelt guce agaenn: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthrea...chat-thread-5th-june.20351%2Fpage-8%23post-455714%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> 
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