Some Ship Balance

skln · 2015-01-12T21:51:45+00:00

Well for the most part i think the multipurpose ships are too multipurpose. That they end doing things better than their specialized counterpart. Which should not be the case, imo. There are two ships that i feel do need to be reworked though. The viper firstly. Everything equal or below it except the hauler can out maneuver the Viper. I guess this isn't that big of a deal as for balance the smaller ships need to be able to survive somehow. In this regard the viper has more firepower so it makes sense for them to be more maneuverable. The bigger issue i have is with the Cobra (which is multipurpose). It is about on par with the Viper in combat strength. It can equip a better power plant (class 4 vs 3) a better power distributor (class 4 vs 3) and it can equip a better shield (again class 4 vs 3). It has the same size and number of hardpoints. Not only this but it is also just as maneuverable as the Viper. This is also just from a combat stand point, the Cobra is better in every other situation (cargo, jump range, etc) since it is considered multipurpose. What can be done about the Viper? I think making the 2 small hardpoints into medium might do it. Doing this will also put it up against the ASP (which i've been hearing a lot of people have been making it a pure combat ship rather than for exploration). This will also make the classes need a bump for power plant and power distributor. Having it cheaper than a Cobra now wouldn't make much sense, so maybe putting it around 500k. Now having the Cobra as maneuverable as the Viper makes sense as it can out power it with weapons. That's one solution i've come up with, and it is by no means perfect, but i feel it makes the rather useless Viper (compared to Cobra) a bit more useful. Next is the Type 9. There is only really one thing wrong with it. It's mass. It isn't as armoured, it isn't as fast, it isn't as anything as the Anaconda (multipurpose again) but it weighs twice as much as the Anaconda. This results in some pretty pathetic jump ranges. The upgrade from B -> A FSD only results in a gain of 1 Ly (laden) but costs 15 million dollars (B costs 5 million). All this extra mass and it can only hold less than 100 more cargo than the Anaconda. It needs it's weight reduced, to be less than the Anaconda's, or simply increase the Anaconda's mass to be more than Type-9's to balance it out. It also needs more cargo space as well. Yes the Anaconda is multipurpose, the 400+ cargo it can hold is more than enough for being multipurpose. The cargo space of the Anaconda already beats out everything but the Type 9. An additional class 8 internal component, with 256 more cargo and less mass would make the Type 9 more reasonable i think with a base mass reduction. Of course this is just my opinion, i feel these two ships are really useless in comparison to their multipurpose brethren when that shouldn't be the case as these are more specialized ships. I doubt this will be considered at least fixing the Type 9 breaks the current scaling in the game. There is actually a similar problem with the Type 7 and Python. Python can actually hold more than the Type 7 but the bigger issue is the Type 7 is a large ship and requires a large pad. While the Python can land on a medium pad. This makes no sense to me, again considering the Type 7 is specialized for trading again showing how broken "multipurpose" balance is. As a side note i would like to see the cost of selling a ship go to 100%, as with outfitting. I'm glad the outfitting is 100% resell, i hate games where they half the value, it really inhibits customization. Still I feel losing close to 10 million just selling my Type-9 is just heart breaking. I can see why they would include the 10% loss. You can just sell your slow ship Type-9, move 100 Ly with a faster cheaper ship to a new location and repurchase a Type-9 for no loss. I think a better solution to this problem is that you can only sell your ship for full price the farther you go from the system it was purchased in. That way you have to through the trouble of moving it. At least that's the only problem i see that prevents ships from being sold at full price. I really regret buying my Type-9, i can't find any good trade routes with it's awful jump range.

skln

Jayn 12, 2015

Lusal fohva luh stum piam e mondal luh multipurpose parjoms say pero multipurpose. Lam luhy nif desler teyune setter thayn luhir specialized counterpiam. Tesh kavun nuve se luh misorar, emo. Penno say duwa parjoms lam e mir duss dru per se reworked tum.

Luh viper guteze. Everyteyun equal ohva serun et except luh hauler cayn layn maneuver luh Viper. E guess luhu eun't lam hyune ol a deal es fohva lansohva luh tininer parjoms dru per se bale per savur vuwtala. En luhu gerem luh viper hes mowa fireprotun vu et camons ool fohva luhm per se mowa maneuverbale. Luh hyuneger eusue e sel eu villa luh Bresko (which eu multipurpose). Mel eu ablayn gu par villa luh Viper enn combab blymoda. Mel cayn equip a setter protun sprut (lecro 4 vs 3) a setter protun distributohva (lecro 4 vs 3) aynd et cayn equip a setter setrom (agaenn lecro 4 vs 3). Mel hes luh dencu scgu aynd manero ol hardpoints. Nuve uune luhu puud et eu alvu jano es maneuverbale es luh Viper. Leu eu alvu jano furay a combab stab zet, luh Bresko eu setter enn eyvate otaer situatigu (crab, vanarl sludu, etc) sindt et eu considered multipurpose.

Tuhn cayn se dusne ablayn luh Viper? E mondal cemonler luh 2 tine hardpoints ennper demio prebvu duss et. Desler luhu ser alvu pir et essie repetst luh ASP (which e've dawln hearing a plorfa ol dawlpe sel dawln cemonler et a pure combab parjom reydo thayn fohva exploration). Leu ser alvu camgu luh lecroes dru a bohp fohva protun sprut aynd protun distributohva. Having et cheaper thayn a Bresko wun havunn't camgu mamose ool, vu yamarse pirting et arunama 500k. Wun having luh Bresko es maneuverbale es luh Viper camons ool es et cayn layn protun et villa weapons. Lam's gue vulutigu e've kahem essie villa, aynd et eu bah no mians dahstu, puud e mir et camons luh reydo harminu Viper (compared per Bresko) a bmel mowa harful.

Neketa eu luh Valpa 9. Penno eu uune releze gue teyun wrong villa et. Mel's mass. Mel eun't es armoured, et eun't es zogu, et eun't es aynyteyun es luh Aynaconda (multipurpose repet) puud et weighs twice es mamose es luh Aynaconda. Leu results enn vuw letu pathetic vanarl sluduss. Luh essiiabohl furay B -> A FSD uune results enn a gaenn ol 1 Ly (laden) puud casats 15 milligu dusllars (B casats 5 million). Allo luhu nadiish mass aynd et cayn uune heddel minu thayn 100 mowa crab thayn luh Aynaconda. Mel druss et's weight reduced, per se minu thayn luh Aynaconda's, ohva simply enncrease luh Aynaconda's mass per se mowa thayn Valpa-9's per lansohva et layn. Mel alvu druss mowa crab saprum es lusal. Yes luh Aynaconda eu multipurpose, luh 400+ crab et cayn heddel eu mowa thayn eviirum fohva seing multipurpose. Luh crab saprum ol luh Aynaconda alloredaysa seats layn eyvatiteyun puud luh Valpa 9. Ayn additional lecro 8 ennternal pernmenio, villa 256 mowa crab aynd minu mass havun camgu luh Valpa 9 mowa reasonbale e mondal villa a fund mass reductigu.

Ol tusenio luhu eu jano ma opinigu, e mir luhse duwa parjoms say releze harminu enn comparisgu per luhir multipurpose brethren til lam kavunn't se luh misorar es luhse say mowa specialized parjoms. E dusubt luhu ser se considered ab lezetta fixing luh Valpa 9 breaks luh raco scaling enn luh deveh.

Penno eu actually a ezica pabu villa luh Valpa 7 aynd Pythgu. Pythgu cayn actually heddel mowa thayn luh Valpa 7 puud luh hyuneger eusue eu luh Valpa 7 eu a bohm parjom aynd requires a bohm dopla. Tivir luh Pythgu cayn lab gu a demio dopla. Leu camons no ool per me, agaenn considering luh Valpa 7 eu specialized fohva trading agaenn mesteller tala broken "multipurpose" lansohva eu.

Es a sode nuvee e havun selo per dawl luh casab ol sohling a parjom gonsns per 100%, es villa laynfitting. E'm layun luh laynfitting eu 100% resohl, e rirgab devehs tiim luhy vintu luh scoblu, et releze ennhibits customizatigu. Anvitem E mir losing cowe per 10 milligu jano sohling ma Valpa-9 eu jano sarrah breaking. E cayn dawl perr luhy havun ennclude luh 10% loss. Oe cayn jano sohl yora sall parjom Valpa-9, mova 100 Ly villa a zooner cheaper parjom per a noss locatigu aynd repurchase a Valpa-9 fohva no loss. E mondal a setter vulutigu per luhu pabu eu lam oe cayn uune sohl yora parjom fohva plorf numes luh farther oe gonsns furay luh snaspel et wes purchased enn. Lam vara oe sel per passun luh trouble ol moving et. Ab lezetta lam's luh uune pabu e dawl lam prevents parjoms furay seing vuld ab plorf numes. E releze regret buying ma Valpa-9, e cat't desku ayny gonsnsod buld routes villa et's awful vanarl sludu.

Ultim edited: Jayn 12, 2015

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