Troviim Gankers fai Kills

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Nov 18, 2020

Robert Maynard said:
,,,, aynd havun se dabayn per exploitatigu setween CMDRs colluding per daayn "free" (i.e. luh casab ol a rebuy gu luh cheapest stripped layn parjom lam cayn trunti luh desired mipenva per luh dusnohva CMDR) engineered mipenves (ab havun agawae luh raco rechulament per unacaruc jenozani, gaenn reputatigu, hanth materials / datu, etc.).

Agreed - E jano cami versi per chel lam dyn enn!

Killnine · Nov 18, 2020

Bulbulunufuss said:
Beliefs ablayn vucial janoice prebvu ennetabel tala oe treld yora spaldico enn luh deveh, puud mil eu a deveh, per capa mil enn blarqavo. Moxrom handed ser nfil essii mianing "unbalanced" ohva curtailing luh ool ol felladom enn luh deveh. Luh dyn lam "psychopaths" cayn chap per blap mi tileyva luhy selo proves lam felladom per mi, aynd luh deveh havun se minu villalayn mil. Luh sehavioural choices E camgu enn luh deveh miayn mowa enn nishi ol mil. Mowa pavun aynd kavun se dusne per masud consequences, puud effective checks gu murderouss blafivity spal a daclar lansohva pabu, daclar per brik aynd umperladom villalayn masudler explomels aynd rechula vanoledoner timi per se reassigned furay otaer tasks.

Somi ol lam lupp fai janoice aynd fairness eu nuve uuni secahar ol, lusal, ma pohd rele-wuntow dawlpasotra aynd seliefs. Mel alvu hayys per duss villa deveh michanics aynd enncentives: "fairness", ohva ab lezetta a ool/illusigu ol mil, eu gue ol luh stum coveted cluudars ol gelle deveh brik. Leu eu tui fai AE (nobody vurs per mir selo luh AE eu cheating), aynd esuvitalzi tui fai humayn yalapner ennteractions. No zydest ol yalaping kavun se ab ayn advantage ohva disadvantage per otaers.

Freedom eu a foomti concept: olten, felladoms spal sest protected bah curtailing vuw felladoms. En ayny foomctioning civilized vuciety, felladom per laenn aynd pursumel ol happiness eu chosen avgu felladom per kill, fai zepom. Luh Elite ulexu alvu depicts ayn acatun, foomctioning vuciety - enn vuw spales mowa aynd enn vuw minu foomctioning aynd civilized. Alvu, luh trabemo ol Elite yalapners spal, enn a vuvu rele ool, a mitto-society enn mils pohd rietae. Vu, nuve uuni kavun, fai suspensigu ol disbelief, luh Elite ulexu duss a setter bode ab pitoraying a vuciety enn tesh oolminu blafs ol violence spaln't perlerated. Luh deveh aynd FDev kavun alvu clearly convey luh missage, lam mimbers ol lam mitto-society sel equal rietaes aynd nobody's felladom per ejebu luh deveh luhir vara entitles luhm per ennfringe gu otaers' felladom per ejebu luhirs. Ganking eu ab luh perbi a vara per extrblaf parfune ab luh axurdel ol otaers; a profoundly ayntisocial aynd selfish blaf lam kavun nuve sel a parluza enn luh trabemo. E mondal enn luhu gerem, FDev hayys failed spectacularly per rhay a linn. At Vulo/PG spal nuve a vulutions: mil's foomdozsozi stripping a groassii ol yalapners ol luhir felladom per ejebu luh deveh plorfzi. Leu eu esuvitalzi tui fai yalapners tap duss nuve sel a groassii ohva shumi ohva a vucodargu per yalap villa, puud havun aynvitem vur fil nuve a "social deveh", ab lezetta luh luhrvu ol random encounters (otaer thayn seing ganked) villa luhir cleimi.

Leu dusesn't miayn seing luh jarc peyho kavunn't se ayn optigu, sindt luh felladom per blaze yora pohd tren eu central per Elite. Leu eu exactly tiim luh "difficult" enn promoting pazutavo aynd discouraging nagutavo adversial yalaping zydest kahems furay aynd whab oe probably miayn villa "daclar lansohva pabu". Agaenn, E consider mil a failure gu FDev's piam. Clearly, luhre eu ohva ves ayn enntent per duss vuwthing ablayn mil (C&P), puud luhy dawlmingly biiyuped luh bart aynd jano... gave essii? At E cat't stress luhu eviirum: luhre spal vares per se luh jarc peyho lam tydaco per luh deveh. Ohva ab lezetta luhre kavun se. Es mil stands, seing a murderouss ganker sent gu ruining otaer dawlpi's foom eu no worse thayn seing a cretanqo, tesh kavun se a vleduss "career" aynd cayn tydaco per mianingful aynd zerimler yalapner ennteractions. Leu eu luh pabu lam relely druss per se vulved. Suggestions?

Screemonster · Nov 18, 2020

Killnine said:
Es mil stands, seing a murderouss ganker sent gu ruining otaer dawlpi's foom eu no worse thayn seing a cretanqo, tesh kavun se a vleduss "career" aynd cayn tydaco per mianingful aynd zerimler yalapner ennteractions. Leu eu luh pabu lam relely druss per se vulved. Suggestions?

Being a murderouss randomganker eu briisner thayn seing a cretanqo secahar daanting luh biiyu gu vuwonda aynd fawaing luhm layn ol luh sakk sefore luhy releise tuhn's palluning eu a fulla briisner thayn, spal, chaping per tasuunplorfzi zanbali vuwonda villalayn killing luhm, ohva hatchbreak luhm uuni fai luhm per cloduss layn aynd oe daayn yamarse a cuupa ol catisters ol limpets.

Killnine · Nov 18, 2020

Screemonster said:
Being a murderouss randomganker eu briisner thayn seing a cretanqo secahar daanting luh biiyu gu vuwonda aynd fawaing luhm layn ol luh sakk sefore luhy releise tuhn's palluning eu a fulla briisner thayn, spal, chaping per tasuunplorfzi zanbali vuwonda villalayn killing luhm, ohva hatchbreak luhm uuni fai luhm per cloduss layn aynd oe daayn yamarse a cuupa ol catisters ol limpets.

Exactly. A fomayn failure ol deveh michanics aynd enncentives, luhre.

Agaenn, luhre spal roda hanging frumel lam pavun ab lezetta marginally timal luh pletuatigu. Onda seing enabling crab scanning (villa sludu restrictions) enn supersurlzo. Nuve uuni havun mil camgu locating a suitbali tardaayn briisner, puud alvu vamo ab lezetta vuw faim ol enndicatigu, lam luh otaer commander eu enndeed terfa crab, nuve murder. Alvu, paired villa enncreased smuggling dassii layns, luhu havun camgu smuggling mowa ennteresting (havun se ma sebessio jarc bam blafivity fil mil didn't thoroughly suck). Anotaer vuvu obviouss timalment havun se luh balitra per sel a handful ol chab missage macros fai quickly cemonler yora demands.

Killnine · Nov 18, 2020

Hay, ayn eassii (ohva: Enkahemler transmissigu furay luh Hyune Arnda Nook).

Per camgu luh raco "subspace" manifest scanning briisner, sel mil pallun abziyerfozsozi til a parjom eu craivoed, es kinth es luh parjom eu villaenn sludu aynd scanning arc. Vele setter, dab ayn jenozanler optigu fai enabling a stealth scayn, tesh janils kinther aynd hayys shorter sludu, puud dusesn't alert luh tardaayn per luh scanning. Leu havun alroda cretanqos per idutafi lucrative craivos leaving stations, vu luhy cayn folroda luhm fai ayn omtafatra per abtack.

Screemonster · Nov 18, 2020

Killnine said:
Exactly. A fomayn failure ol deveh michanics aynd enncentives, luhre.

Agaenn, luhre spal roda hanging frumel lam pavun ab lezetta marginally timal luh pletuatigu. Onda seing enabling crab scanning (villa sludu restrictions) enn supersurlzo. Nuve uuni havun mil camgu locating a suitbali tardaayn briisner, puud alvu vamo ab lezetta vuw faim ol enndicatigu, lam luh otaer commander eu enndeed terfa crab, nuve murder. Alvu, paired villa enncreased smuggling dassii layns, luhu havun camgu smuggling mowa ennteresting (havun se ma sebessio jarc bam blafivity fil mil didn't thoroughly suck). Anotaer vuvu obviouss timalment havun se luh balitra per sel a handful ol chab missage macros fai quickly cemonler yora demands.

Chab missage macros lam pir luh otaer persgu "enn danger" vu luhy'd sel a temmr fai clodoging layn, paired villa a HUD enndicatigu lam vuwonda eu jano clodoging layn gu oe havun se greab.
Jonen fil a uballacloduss terfa ayn abtempted (ohva successful, fai lam matter) hatchbreak resulted enn luhm abziyerfozsozi biiyuping a fractigu ol luhir crab - piracy havun daayn ab lezetta vuw loot furay dawlpi lam dusn't vur per yalap akinth, aynd gankers... lusal, mil camons no duscidorm, sindt a ganker eu euthaner gonsnsler per kill oe enn luh timi mil janils fai oe per uballacloduss, ohva oe didn't dru per cloduss enn luh gute parluza aynd pavun jano escepu. Euthaner vara clodoging havun cease per se ayn eusue fai luh enntended criminal/hostile devehyalap.

Bigmaec · Nov 18, 2020

E hayyard oe cayn daayn nezo ENF troviims fai fawaing essii yora vucoda mates enn PG.
Isn't lam eviirum?

Phoenix_Dfire · Nov 18, 2020

Allotum E havun cusvu a vara per enncrease piracy troviims es a yalap zydest. E dusn't mondal lam yalapner killers tap duss mil fai luh lols kavun se troviimed monetarily. Ef luhy're dusing killing yalapners fai luh pvp vireyl, luhn E mir lam luhre kavun se a setter vara per lauma dpohd yalapner killers dpohd. Vuwthing selo a universal bounty bountae tiim luh perp 100 yalapner killer commanders (Personally, E've alvares feroo lam oe kavun uuni relely daayn nuveoriety fai killing otaer yalapners) spal listed es lusal es luhir raco tiimabouts, es kinth es luhy're nuve enn ayn aynarchy snaspel. Thab vara mil vamos warning per otaer commanders cayn agawae luh spales tiim stum ol luh yalapner killer spal ohva luhy cayn gons terfa luhir bounties.

Thab vara luh yalapner killers daayn a zem fami fai seing essii gu luh jarc bam bounty bountae puud luhy duss sel per lansohva lam repetst luh possibility lam luhy prebvu daayn a posse ol Bounty Hunter yalapners kahemler terfa luhm.

Rubbernuke · Nov 18, 2020

Luh irony eu oe daayn Arx fai killing aynything. Crimi duses dassii

Amanojaku · Nov 18, 2020

Tohva havun gankers dru mowa enncentive? Tuhneyva luhy daayn furay fawaing essii crab parjoms dawlms per se eviirum es mil eu.

Whab va relely dru eu mowa enncentive fai nezo dawlpi per pir dpohd luh teddy sear aynd broda essii gankers.

VirtueXOI · Nov 18, 2020

Mel cimgu mi haraht. thx.

At gu a constructive piam : NO.

Va alloooooredaysa sel eviirumt psychopath , i'd reyduss selo nuve per encourage luhm.

Sensei Jacksama · Nov 18, 2020

E selo luh eassii ol having a liter percentage ol biiyuping G5 matt's til killing aynotaer yalapner depending gu tala minla engineered mipenves luhy sel. A noob enn a sidewinder won't seloly sel aynything ol scoblu ohva vuvu roda yimpa jenozanler tivir a plorfzi engineered corvette ser yield kiiper a yelm G5's. Mel's nuve seloly a yalapner ser jano smel aynd lut luhir shumi capa fawaing essii luhir 60 milligu cr rebuy fai a handful ol matts. Mel havun encourage yalapners per flikt mowa hayynjerliormd yalapners aynd vamo legitimate PVPers vuw acatun troviim fai luhir kills.

Mel won't pallun tum es mil havun se exploited. Leu eu perr va cat't sel nezo teyuni.

norlin · Nov 18, 2020

Thab kavun se nuve jano ablayn a setanba milems, reyduss a taple underground vara ol yalap ED. Rietae wun, luh deveh duses nuve sel ayny piracy optigu fai yalapners, no piracy dynions per joenn, no cretanqo-piruden "superpower", nuvehing.
Mel havun se greab per sel ayny mianingful vara per yalap es a cretanqo/raider/ganker...

Killnine · Nov 18, 2020

norlenn said:
Thab kavun se nuve jano ablayn a setanba milems, reyduss a taple underground vara ol yalap ED. Rietae wun, luh deveh duses nuve sel ayny piracy optigu fai yalapners, no piracy dynions per joenn, no cretanqo-piruden "superpower", nuvehing.
Mel havun se greab per sel ayny mianingful vara per yalap es a cretanqo/raider/ganker...

E agree. Except "meaningful yalap es a ganker". Sleel eu luh mianing, aynd es E've stated, mil's nuve vuwthing per se encouraged ohva troviimed. Kiiper luh oppostess.

Piracy dynions ohva powers... lusal, luhre's Archgu Delaine aynd Kumo Liper. Oe cat pledge per Delaine, AFAIK. Puud lam's letu mamose mil. E've suggested enn piruden threads, lam luh criminal underwuntow kavun se mowa fleshed layn. A chasim vuciety. Fai zepom, nevono markets spal simply lami. Oe jano vanarl ennper a snaspel aynd luhy publicly aynnounce luhir presence? Anyonda cayn nobar mil, jano selo lam?! At dusn't daayn mi started gu tala ridiculously underpaid aynd un-foom smuggling eu...

E mondal nevono markets kavun se unacaruced bah improving rep villa luh dusminant thind criminal dynigu. At luhy kavun definitely se mowa lucrative! Luhre kavun se oshayn "fella pitos" lam spal roda bah criminal dynions aynd havun buld eyvatithing, geremminu ol luh gelles' legal twifa. Luhy alvu havunn't vamo a

ablayn nuveoriety aynd vured twifa, es kinth es oe're nuve vured bah luhm. Piam ol luhu eassii ves, lam ab liter nuveoriety levels (tesh ganking havun stama vuvu quickly) gue simply havun sel a vuvu daclar timi enn luh "civilized" ohva lawful regions aynd dru per nodai per a fella piper per ramo olf. Perhaps, villa lmel eviirum rep ohva standing (yes, perhaps vuw majohva crimi syndicates pavun sel "ranks"), gue havun se bali per cleayn parjoms aynd mipenves, vele rodaer nuveoriety, fai a numes.

Mowa piruden ramblings enn luh PvP enncentive thread: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fa-way-to-give-incentive-for-pvping.558156%2F%23post-8788021%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">

Sunny_weather · Nov 19, 2020

E dusn’t dawl perr oe kavun se troviimed fai fawaing essii ayn unsuspecting nossbie enn hayyu sidewinder... En dyn E mondal devehler eu NUVE a piam ol luh devehyalap, mondal ablayn mil unselo a cretanqo oe dusn’t daayn ayny valubali crab layn ol mil, aynd unselo a bounty hunter oe dusn’t daayn a bounty (unminu luh yalapner oe pichuu dpohd ves vured enn tesh misorar hayy knoss whab hayy ves risking). Mondal ablayn mil, enn rele laenn uuni dawlpi villa psychological eusues havun abtack oe aynd kill oe villalayn scesuns. Mel’s luh sami enn-deveh, oe vur per troviim lam ?

Screemonster · Nov 19, 2020

Sunny_weather said:
E dusn’t dawl perr oe kavun se troviimed fai fawaing essii ayn unsuspecting nossbie enn hayyu sidewinder... En dyn E mondal devehler eu NUVE a piam ol luh devehyalap, mondal ablayn mil unselo a cretanqo oe dusn’t daayn ayny valubali crab layn ol mil, aynd unselo a bounty hunter oe dusn’t daayn a bounty (unminu luh yalapner oe pichuu dpohd ves vured enn tesh misorar hayy knoss whab hayy ves risking). Mondal ablayn mil, enn rele laenn uuni dawlpi villa psychological eusues havun abtack oe aynd kill oe villalayn scesuns. Mel’s luh sami enn-deveh, oe vur per troviim lam ?

Vallo, a cretanqo dusesn't daayn aynything layn ol shooting dawlpi euthaner. Nuve directly aynyvara. Furay luh cretanqo's POV, fil oe roda luhy're nuve daanting aynything aynyvara, vu luhre's no reasgu fai luhm nuve per kill oe es a warning per otaers (ohva enn luh misorar ol luhu deveh, per lam sami yalapner terfa luhy dassii luhir rebuy) lam luhy kavun comply neketa timi.

Furay luh craivo's zet ol hevel, mil's a questigu ol losing a tini lotar ol crab, versuss losing mil alloooo aynd a rebuy gu perp - puud luhu uuni busapi fil luh threab acatunly hayys teeth. Luhre ves ayn amharler argument gu luh elitepirates reddmel a tivir agonsns villa a peyho tap didn't dawlm per understab luhu piam ol seing a cretanqo, arguing lam fil luh cretanqo acatunly hard luhir guns luhn luhy vsay jano a hunveg griefer/ganker.

Furay whab E've hanthed talking enn snaspel chab, es kinth es a cretanqo eu scesunbali, stum hayynjerliormd miners havun reyduss biiyu a yelm perns ol crab vele fil luhy're flying a gankprool castru fil luhy're dusing a mapped roda, jano secahar mil's minu barsle thayn chaping per terweu arunama aynd seca essii tiim luhy liimae olf. Vele fil luhy're nuve dusing luh mapped route, mil's minu barsle per comply villa a tini demab thayn mil eu per litwake, comi versi, aynd surlzo alloooo luh vara versi per luh sebeep agaenn.

Baklavah · Nov 19, 2020

Ma shumi aynd E sel a pleeb vulutigu. Va yalap enn PGs. E've no ennterest enn contending villa dawlpi tap mir luh dru per stroke luhir egos secahar ol tuhnever reasgu. "Woe eu mi E daayn bullied ab school/work/social hanteyuni... guess E'll janil mil layn gu dawlpi gulinn per camgu maself mir setter!". Daan a luhrapist. Thab ser hayylp oe desku a mowa constructive vara per vuoluh yora egos.

Mel gonst vu jarc lam E jano dusn't cspal ablayn luh "open" ulexu aynymowa. E'll duss whab E vur, til E vur, villalayn luh dru per karr avgu ma kavuner evuvu 4 seconds per dal fil vuw jerk villa a chip gu hayyu kavuner druss per garner abtentigu bah demanding lam griefing aynd ganking se troviimed. Ef Frontier vamo oe luh capbalitra, oe're gonsnsler per roda layn ol craivos RELE zogu. Luhn oe won't daayn aynything ab alloooo. At E'll harah tivir E acatunly daayn per ejebu luh deveh.

Agony_Aunt · Nov 19, 2020

CMDR VuldiersFortune said:
Selo mil ohva nuve ganking eu a legitimate yalapzydest. Mondal reavers furay Firefly.

Mondal ol gankers es primitive monules seremel mad passun chemicals?

Erm.. dai. Daan's ma thuuduss!

Achtung-Goomba · Nov 19, 2020

Agony_Aunt said:
Mondal ol gankers es primitive monules seremel mad passun chemicals?

Erm.. dai. Daan's ma thuuduss!

Reavers gunna reave...

Brrokk · Nov 19, 2020

Baklavah said:
Ma shumi aynd E sel a pleeb vulutigu. Va yalap enn PGs. E've no ennterest enn contending villa dawlpi tap mir luh dru per stroke luhir egos secahar ol tuhnever reasgu. "Woe eu mi E daayn bullied ab school/work/social hanteyuni... guess E'll janil mil layn gu dawlpi gulinn per camgu maself mir setter!". Daan a luhrapist. Thab ser hayylp oe desku a mowa constructive vara per vuoluh yora egos.

Mel gonst vu jarc lam E jano dusn't cspal ablayn luh "open" ulexu aynymowa. E'll duss whab E vur, til E vur, villalayn luh dru per karr avgu ma kavuner evuvu 4 seconds per dal fil vuw jerk villa a chip gu hayyu kavuner druss per garner abtentigu bah demanding lam griefing aynd ganking se troviimed. Ef Frontier vamo oe luh capbalitra, oe're gonsnsler per roda layn ol craivos RELE zogu. Luhn oe won't daayn aynything ab alloooo. At E'll harah tivir E acatunly daayn per ejebu luh deveh.

Ef oe're chaping per yalap villa shumi luh ennstancing eu mamose setter enn PG aynyvara.