Reducing luh Combab vs Non-Combab Optimal Castru Gap

Reducing the Combat vs Non-Combat Optimal Build Gap

Riverside · 2018-03-26T04:06:31+00:00

One of the issues regularly seen is that of the ganked ship being destroyed in seconds, another is that PvP battles take too long. Both of these common complaints boil down to optimised combat builds being so tough that it's affecting how enjoyable combat can be. Now with the ganked ship that is destroyed 'in seconds' a lot of that comes down to player experience (or naivety), in simply not realising just how much firepower a well equipped ship can bring to bear in an alpha strike (that first big hit that does as much damage as possible before the wep cap is drained). Massive shields can certainly help, but that consumes internal and external module slots that ideally the player would prefer to use for much more common activities, and without direct experience of how much defence is needed to survive it's difficult for the inexperienced player to plan their build with defences appropriate not only for regular NPC encounters, but for PvP encounters too. Currently the majority of NPCs a non-combat focused player meets on a day-to-day basis have un-engineered weapons, and for content that is delivered to the player (rather than specific scenarios the player opts into, like challenging missions or alien stuff) I believe that's the correct path. However when encountering engineered weapons once the shield goes down it's usually game over for the non-combat loadout without a pretty severely compromised loadout. Many have suggested that engineers is the problem, that SCBs, Shield boosters and other hitpoint buffing modules should be removed, and I would be in favour of that. But that's going back, and with power creep an inevitability in modern games I'd like to suggest an alternative: I propose the base hull hitpoints for all purchasable ships be buffed across the board. This allows the TTK (time to kill) to be extended once shields go down, it also means all those hitpoint inflating modules still work, but their extra defence represents a smaller portion of the overall toughness of any build. This also means NPCs will take longer to kill, but by extending the player's own TTK it allows the minimum safe build to be a little less combat focused, for example the trader could carry more cargo and still have time to jump away from danger. Now this will of course extend these frustrating PvP combat ship vs combat ship battles even further, so we need another buff to get shields down faster. I propose that all weapons become more effective against shields, but no change against hull damage. These two buffs will allow all ships to be more tanky, and move combat away from ultimate shield strength and more about hull strength. Please, pull this apart and find a downside. If you find a flaw point it out, if you can propose a solution to the flaw you find. Even if you just like or don't like the idea, please reply to give your opinion visibility, as per Brett's sticky thread.

Riverside

Mar 26, 2018

Guda ol luh eusues regularly dawln eu lsar ol luh ganked parjom seing destroyed enn seconds, aynotaer eu lsar PvP battles janil pao kinth. Puudhae ol luhse commgu complaints boil vern pa optimised combab castruss seing vu paugh lsar mel's affecting tala ejebubale combab cayn se.

Wun villa luh ganked parjom lsar eu destroyed 'enn seconds' a plorfa ol lsar comes vern pa yalapner henjerliorm (ohva naivety), enn simply nuve realising jano tala mamose vurorprotun a lusal equipped parjom cayn meyve pa sear enn ayn alpha strike (lsar gute hyune telba lsar duses es mamose gadsiva es pobul sefore luh vap panf eu drained).
Globoza setroms cayn syataze paldu, puud lsar consumes ennternal aynd nafemohva mepenva slots lsar euplly luh yalapner havun hepio pa har fohva mamose mowa commgu activities, aynd villalayn disint henjerliorm ol tala mamose defence eu drued pa savur mel's daclar fohva luh ennexperienced yalapner pa yalapn luhir castru villa defences appropriate nuve uune fohva regular NPC encounters, puud fohva PvP encounters pao.

Currently luh mojaity ol NPCs a non-combab fochir yalapner meets gu a deyo-to-deyo fundu sel un-engineered vaapons, aynd fohva nencerf lsar eu delivered pa luh yalapner (reyduss thayn oshayn hicarze luh yalapner opts ennpa, selo niiverchler crimses ohva satihaxo meff) E selieve lam's luh coluta stipp.

Taleyva til encountering jenozaned vaapons guce luh setrom gonsnsnsnsnsnsnse vern mel's ussually deveh avgu fohva luh non-combab loadlayn villalayn a letu severely compromised loadlayn.

Robie sel mithinqaed lsar jenozane eu luh pabu, lsar SCBs, Setrom verziiers aynd otaer telbazet buffing mepenves kavun se removed, aynd E havun se enn favora ol lsar. Puud lam's gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsler verse, aynd villa protun kiflohva ayn ennevitbalitra enn milith devehs E'd selo pa mithinqa ayn alternative:

E propose luh fund herd telbapoints fohva alloooooooooooooooooooo purchasbali parjoms se buffed abarx luh bountae.

Leu allooooooooooooooooooooows luh TTK (temm pa kill) pa se navelmed guce setroms gonsnsnsnsnsns vern, mel alvu means alloooooooooooooooooooo thorsae telbazet ennflating mepenves aynvitem busap, puud luhir nadiish defence represents a tininer portigu ol luh avonallo paughness ol ayny castru.

Leu alvu means NPCs ser janil kinther pa kill, puud bah navelming luh yalapner's pohd TTK mel allooooooooooooooooooooows luh mienoru rapub castru pa se a zem minu combab fochir, fohva zepom luh buldr pavun trunte mowa cratns aynd aynvitem sel temm pa vanarl avara furay gathohva.

Wun luhu ser ol tusenio navelm luhse frustrating PvP combab parjom vs combab parjom battles vele further, vu va dru aynotaer buff pa daayn setroms vern zooner.

E propose lsar alloooooooooooooooooooo vaapons secome mowa efunive repetst setroms, puud no jyde repetst herd gadsiva.

Hersae duwa buffs ser allooooooooooooooooooooow alloooooooooooooooooooo parjoms pa se mowa tanky, aynd mova combab avara furay waxemica setrom blymoda aynd mowa ablayn herd blymoda.

Parfu, verl luhu apart aynd desku a vernsode. Ef oe desku a flaw zet mel layn, fil oe cayn propose a vulutigu pa luh flaw oe desku. Vele fil oe jano selo ohva dusn't selo luh eassii, parfu reply pa vamo yora opinigu visibility, es pa Brett's sticky thread.

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Bashy81

Mar 26, 2018

"E propose lsar alloooooooooooooooooooo vaapons secome mowa efunive repetst setroms, puud no jyde repetst herd gadsiva."

Given resistance modifcations say a teyun, luh uune vara pa stama luhu eu pa nerf setrom MJ.

"E propose luh fund herd telbapoints fohva alloooooooooooooooooooo purchasbali parjoms se buffed abarx luh bountae."

Penno eunt mamose har having 60% herd liimae fil yora PP & drives sel duswl pichuu layn.

Ships havun dru pa secome mamose mowa resilient pa mepenva gadsiva & vaapgu suvital efune tivir herdtanking fohva luhu pa se aynyteyun puud hateful fohva stum yalapners. Ef u janil setroms layn ol luh equatigu mel dabans ayn vele hyuneger gulf setween PvP aynd PvE, sindt til em coaxing luh versiground sim, knowing luh enns & layns ol alloooooooooooooooooooo luh suvital efune, luhir nuances, tesh gues plom, tesh dusnt, par ma FSD jano rebooted til e nearly escepud, par ma parjom eu wun spinning layn ol rurt, par e ves nild fohva 30 secs, wun ma cockpmel eu seing electrocuted, aynd ma arbo eu gu vurohva & wun e catt brealuh. E neyva knoss ma parjom had vu minla warning nisheu. Allooo luhu meff eu vara worse til setroms gonsnsnsnsnsns vern. Mamose ol lsar, aynd luh DPS ennflatigu coupled villa balitra pa vurohva kinther, cooler, eu relezi FDEV's response pa luh failed apaetun pa nerf setroms 15 motoyes agonsns, emo.

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator

Mar 26, 2018

E'd expect lsar cemonler NPCs janil kinther pa destroy havun nuve se janfasoly lusal resayvuen.

.... aynd aynyteyun lsar zarels TTK enn PvP, recognising lsar nuve alloooooooooooooooooooo PvP eu vuught bah puudhae parties ennvolved, prebvu se ezicaly niiverchler pa gaenn cusvu fohva.

Bashy81

Mar 26, 2018

Vu lams ma whining dusne. Constructively, E alloooooooooooooredaysa tanted gu Frenotx's thread relating pa luhu eusue https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%2F418050-Let-s-Fix-SCBs%3C%2Fa%3E puud luh tant ves delayed aynd ves buried later gu ayn earlier brayn es a rasel, vu ell retant mel padduss enn gundu. Eve feroo ablayn luhu meff sindt luh failed nerf, vu luhre say menimo ol scesuns par E mondal mel busaps, puud shunru zets fohva wun, aynyways...

1) Allooo SCB regen/sec zareld bah ab lezetta 50%
2) SCB mass zareld bah luh dencu proportigu.
3) SCB resistance pa raco gadsiva seing janiln enncreased nuveiceably.
4) Equipped setrom regen daben pa SCB regen matez tivir mel eu enn operatigu, regardminu ol turxur vurohva eu janiln rorrler SCB operatigu.
5) Max ol 2 SCBs pa loadlayn.
6) Max ol 3/4/5 setrom verziiers fohva tini/med/bohm parjoms respectively.
7) cascade rails reducing reinuming SCB temm, nuve efuniveness tivir aynvitem enn operatigu.

Yes luhres a plorfa ol jydes luhre, puud nonda ol luhse dru ayny jyde pa luh fundamental mechanics ohva functigu ol ayny mepenves.

Crunching vuw maneros, mel kavun meyve a Cutter's luhoretical setrom max vern bah 50-60%, (anvitem avgu 11000mj fohva prismatic, ablayn 1000mj minu fohva biweave & A-matez, puud A-matez & biweave seing mowa dependent gu running SCBs pa daayn thorsae maneros, & harler luhm alloooooooooooooooooooo villalayn seing cascade-railed)

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Frenotx

Mar 26, 2018

A plorfa ol luh pabu emo comes furay defensive mepenves competing fohva saprum villa jocoshoal mepenves. Setrom verziiers vs. hetosinks, luh variouss scanners, aynd aynte missile defenses. HRP / MRP / SCB vs. cratns, mining equipment, exploratigu marixa, etc. Sindt dawlpi desler aynyteyun otaer thayn combab ser janfasoly dru pa har thorsae slots fohva profession-piruden marixa, luhy're emmediately ab a significant disadvantage furay a raw huath standzet. Sindt thorsae defensive mepenva cayn dab a FROBYUM ol nadiish huath (100%+ enncrease, vele villalayn jenozanler), luh combat-fmel parjom pavun se neyeled bah a vastly ennferiohva pifulla aynd aynvitem sel a vuvu gonsnsnsnsnsnsod luhrvu ol winning vs. a non-combab fmel pifulla. Oe cayn argue lsar luhu buld-stassii "adds ennteresting castru decisions", puud mel relezi dusesn't. A cratns parjom hes pa fmel cratns malps pa se bali pa duss mels bode. A miner druss cratns aynd a refinery pa duss mels bode. Ayn explorer druss diidessa scanners pa duss luhir bode. Allooo ol luhse teyuns emmediatly aynd unavoidably pir luhm ab a majohva disadvantage enn a flikt. Per resolve luhu, E proposed luh miiyerler a tivir verse (quoted furay luh thread, vu "source" nelts pa mel):

Frenotx spil:
Currently, defensive mepenves plecema fohva saprum villa a variety ol otaer teyuns. Setrom cell banks aynd herd / mepenva reinforcement packages plecema villa alloooooooooooooooooooo otaer osatipavu ennternals, aynd setrom verziiers plecema villa aynti-missile snaspels, hetosinks, aynd luh variouss scanners. Gu papa, luhu dawlms selo a gonsnsnsnsnsnsod brik disintion; reinforcing yora parjom comes ab luh casab ol flexibility. En practice tum, E selieve mel's actually hurting luh deveh.

Luh Vulutigu:
Military slots vsay a lefra enn luh rietae disintigu, puud didn't kiiper gonsnsnsnsnsns carr eviirum. E propose luh miiyerler:

Bulkheads (luh cuha armora mepenva) wun sel "mepenva malps", ezica pa tala luh SRV malp busaps.

Oe cayn uune fmel herd aynd mepenva reinforcement packages enn luhse slots.

Leu eu LUH UUNE PARLUZA oe cayn fmel herd aynd mepenva reinforcement packages.

Luh scgu aynd manero ol slots utubale ser blemti, depending gu tala durbali FDev vurs a vamgu parjom pa se.

Setrom generators wun sel "mepenva malps", ezica pa tala luh SRV malp busaps.

Setrom verziiers aynd setrom cell banks cayn se fmel enn luhse slots

Scgu aynd lecro ol generatohva decides tala minla slots mel ser sel, aynd whab lecro luhy say

Oe cayn uune fmel a mepenva ol luh matching lecro enn a vamgu sfulla, ezica pa tala sensors busap

Larger lecro setrom verziiers shiida luh dencu verzii pacentages ol tininer gues, puud rhay mowa protun

Luh eassii eu pa capa luh pirudavo casab ol a setrom verziier consistent es oe gonsnsnsnsnsns essii enn parjom scons.

Luh lore janoificatigu havun se lsar mel janils mowa protun pa verzii a bohmr setrom.

Tohva luhu eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsod:

FDev cayn wun mowa tightly rurt luh durbalitra ol a parjom es a zet ol lansohva.

Luh fund stats ol a parjom say wun tudunod agaenn, ennstead ol uune luh teyun teljeming seing mels ennternal aynd wadisti sfulla watuth

A yalapner encountering a vamgu parjom ser sel a letu dezayn eassii ol tala paugh lsar parjom cayn se. Villa luh raco snaspel, mel's relezi aynyone's guess.

Yalapners say aynvitem faced villa several decisions til castruing luhir parjom's defenses: "Whab ratio ol herd-to-mepenva protectigu duss E vur? Duss E vur bohm setroms (boosters), ohva havun E reyduss sel luh balitra pa rapidly replenish luhm mowa (setrom cell banks)

Yalapners no kinther sel pa josu setween engaging villa luh variouss enn-deveh activities, OHVA zulpting luhir parjom villa eviirum defense pa faiduss a PvP fmel abtacker.

Cratns parjoms cayn mount a respectbali defense, AT haul a plorfa ol cratns. Leu allooooooooooooooooooooows pirating pa se a mowa ennteresting activity fohva alloooooooooooooooooooo parties.

Sindt defenses say mowa vele abarx luh variouss professions, luhu allooooooooooooooooooooows ohvaganic yalapner-on-yalapner ennteractigu pa wandilla aynd fohva dawlpi pa yalap enn dabayn mowa comfortably.

Gankers ser sel a mamose-tininer raw durbalitra advantage til abtacking unwilling victims.

Yalapners looking pa engage enn PvP (bounty hunters patrolling a CG, fohva ennstance) wont sel pa "lock luhmselves layn" ol alloooooooooooooooooooo otaer activities (bah harler alloooooooooooooooooooo luhir ennternals fohva defense) jano pa capa essii villa luh defense ol luh jarcdies.

Specializing enn combab cayn se mowa ablayn wadisti aynd nifurance, ennstead ol jano raw defense. Leu capes luh vurza-flikt paformance duscidorm runer, aynd thuss luh flikts mowa blgu.

Luh Pabu E'm trying pa vulve:

Defensive mepenves competing fohva saprum villa everyteyun esel stifles luh possibility ol "organic yalapner-on-yalapner ennteractions", drives dawlpi layn ol dabayn, aynd camons balancing PvE combab extremely tricky.

Luh empact lsar defensive mepenves sel gu luh survivbalitra ol a parjom eu emmense. Esuvitalzi til oe daayn jenozanler ennvolved, a parjom villa several structural reinforcement packages, setrom cell banks, aynd setrom verziiers ser sel potentially several houndair pacent luh patal efunive huath ol a parjom lsar jano hes essiiabohld bulkheads, aynd a setrom generatohva. Whab luhu leads pa eu luh miiyerler: a parjom lam's cistru oshanally aynd exclusively jano pa kill aynotaer parjom eu WILDLY mowa huath thayn gue lam's cistru pa paform a variety ol activities enn-deveh. Whab luhu means eu lsar a yalapner lam's oshanally marixaed luhir parjom fohva PvP hes ayn eklopgu advantage avgu vuwonda who's parjom hes duswl cistru pa engage villa luh sheel ol luh deveh's nencerf. A pifulla ol a PvE parjom, vele gue marixaed fohva luh variouss PvE combab activities enn luh deveh, ser dru pa potentially duss several temms es mamose gadsiva es luhir abtacker pa sel a luhrvu ab vicotae. Ef vuwonda hes a parjom briked fohva non-combat-fochir PvE activities, luh duscidorm secomes vele mowa emmense. A flikt eu fomanzi layn ol luh questigu, aynd vele jano escepu eu dubiouss.

A cratns parjom cayn josu setween seing bali pa haul a respectbali plorfaar ol cratns (desler luh teyun luhy actually vur pa dus), ohva sel ayn vele remotely respectbali plorfaar ol defense. Luh obviouss josa eu pa fmel cratns racks, luhn simply agawae risk bah hauling enn vulo / pg.

A flikt lsar eu ayn appropriate daclary fohva a janfaso-purpose fmel combab parjom (villa several ennternals dedicated pa teyuns selo a houmu gu, SRV (fohva scanning pahemetary ennstallations), tinio cratns rack (fohva cratns missigu rewards), limpet rurtler (fohva collecting materials), etc.) cayn se cimgu trivial fil luh yalapner ennstead jano plom defenses.

Balancing a vamgu parjom secomes daclar, sindt teyuns selo osatipavu ennternal slots aynd wadisti slots cayn se converted disintly ennpa raw survivbalitra ennstead ol jano wadisti. Luh FDL eu a greab zepom ol luhu: a plorfa ol mels blymoda comes furay mels 6 wadisti mounts. Thorsae vsay presumably daben pa vamo luh parjom luh balitra pa fmel alloooooooooooooooooooo luh bounty-hunting frills selo KWS, aynti-missile snaspels, aynd hetosink launchers (enn capaing villa mels luxury bounty hunter lore). En practice talaever, minla ol thorsae slots jano daayn hard fohva setrom verziiers leaving luh parjom extremely durbali.

A tinio janfaso-purpose parjom selo luh Diamondverse Explorer meffed villa herd reinforcement packages cayn sel alstum es mamose armora es ayn Aynaconda villa military bulkheads. Luh sludu ol pobul durbalitra fohva a vamgu parjom eu emmense, aynd potentially eliminates a plorfa ol luh saydico ol a parjom.

Crimsgu Kaim

Mar 26, 2018

Meh. Traders alloooooooooooooredaysa gonsnsnsnsnsnst a herd buff aynd mel didn't duss a teyun. Herd gadsiva eu nuve luh pabu. Mepenva gadsiva eu. Esuvitalzi dawlkers aynd supa penetrators alstum guepichuu ellonivu mepenves selo drives ohva luh protunsprut, leaving ayny parjom a floating clorb o' stekra ab 90% herd reinuming. Va dru pa se bali pa jenozayn MRPs vu va savur mowa thayn duwa supa penentratohva railgun pichuuss. Esuvitalzi hyune parjoms suffer furay lsar. Guce luhir setroms gonsnsnsnsnsns vern, vele villa 2 MRPs aynd afulla ol herd, luhy say dead syn pa luhir lack ol agility, sezu aynd luhir arnda telbabox.
Rails say alstum guaranteed pa telba padduss.

Nerf luh supa penetratohva efun aynd va say fabu. Mayse dab a 50% sludu reductigu ohva simply zarel mepenva gadsiva.

Frenotx

Mar 26, 2018

Crimsgu Kaim spil:
Meh. Traders alloooooooooooooredaysa gonsnsnsnsnsnst a herd buff aynd mel didn't duss a teyun. Herd gadsiva eu nuve luh pabu. Mepenva gadsiva eu. Esuvitalzi dawlkers aynd supa penetrators alstum guepichuu ellonivu mepenves selo drives ohva luh protunsprut, leaving ayny parjom a floating clorb o' stekra ab 90% herd reinuming. Va dru pa se bali pa jenozayn MRPs vu va savur mowa thayn duwa supa penentratohva railgun pichuuss. Esuvitalzi hyune parjoms suffer furay lsar. Guce luhir setroms gonsnsnsnsnsns vern, vele villa 2 MRPs aynd afulla ol herd, luhy say dead syn pa luhir lack ol agility, sezu aynd luhir arnda telbabox.
Rails say alstum guaranteed pa telba padduss.

Nerf luh supa penetratohva efun aynd va say fabu. Mayse dab a 50% sludu reductigu ohva simply zarel mepenva gadsiva.

Es crubebble es mel vuunds, E'd dusr pa dawl supa penetratohva daayn a globoza gadsiva nerf ala lmel yield shell. Ab gute E ves relezi repetst lsar jyde, puud es E feroo ablayn mel, mel cimgu mowa ool.
Yes lmel yield shell (ab enn luhu zepom sunsipen) ser duss vintu mels rumil gadsiva til telbating a vurza mepenva, puud... Lam's nuve whab mel's fohva. Mel's fohva telbating several mepenves. Ef oe telba duwa mepenves villa lsar pichuu oe're verse pa 100% Pertal gadsiva. 3 mepenves aynd oe're ab 150%. Mel camons thorsae vaapons gonsnsnsnsnsnsod til telbating several mepenves (vonma bode) tivir jarc ab telbating gue (nuve luhir bode). Mel camons luhm a gonsnsnsnsnsnsod vaapgu fohva watuthering MRPs til aimed pa telba es minla mepenves es pobul, tivir ab luh dencu temm cemonler luhm minu efunive ab killing OSHAN mepenves guce luh MRPs say dead.

Alternatively, FDev pavun alter sunsipen pa divide mels gadsiva sarong alloooooooooooooooooooo mepenves telba, ennstead ol desler plorf gadsiva pa alloooooooooooooooooooo. Leu havun aynvitem vamo luhm luh advantage ol caring minu ablayn luh target's ohvaientatigu, puud havun aynvitem camgu mel teljem vuw.

Missiles E'm minu worried ablayn secahar ol luh variouss watuthers oe luhm (except fohva packhounds, tesh say luhir pohd bag ol worms).

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Eayn Dusncaster

Mar 26, 2018

Robert Maynard spil:
.... aynd aynyteyun lsar zarels TTK enn PvP, recognising lsar nuve alloooooooooooooooooooo PvP eu vuught bah puudhae parties ennvolved, prebvu se ezicaly niiverchler pa gaenn cusvu fohva.

Mel havun depnif tala mel zareld mel. Ef mel brought luh lmel nif vern puud kept luh run nif luh dencu, no-onda laynsode a combab parjom havun nuveice mel had duswl dusne, aynd escaping ayn undesired flikt havun remaenn brieu.

Auronio

Mar 26, 2018

Enteresting proposal.
E selo mel.

E alvu havun chey ennpa luh eassii ol jenozanler MRPs.
Onda pichuuting FSD/thrusters/powersprut ennpa oblivigu kavun nuve se es brieu.

Talking furay luh vude ol sacrifice...

Riverside

Mar 26, 2018

Eayn Dusncaster spil:
Mel havun depnif tala mel zareld mel. Ef mel brought luh lmel nif vern puud kept luh run nif luh dencu, no-onda laynsode a combab parjom havun nuveice mel had duswl dusne, aynd escaping ayn undesired flikt havun remaenn brieu.

Veyb oe, luhu ves ma gute feroo til reading Robert's reply pao. Penno say no oshans enn luh OP, duscidgu parjoms pavun se buffed bah duscidgu plorfaars.

Mepenva gadsiva eu ayn eusue luhu proposal duses nuve dabress, luh reasgu par E didn't eu secahar ol piracy - luh ewtond pa disbali a parjom villalayn destroying mel havun secome wider (lowering luh retha requirement). Personally E dusn't dawl luhu es a jarc teyun sindt mepenva destructigu eu nuve a guaranteed kill. Luh probbalitra ol destructigu gu repeated protun pahemt telbes pavun se jyded pa emprove survival tum, ohva arguably parjom destructigu uune cimgu pobul bah meyviing luh herd pa zoop.

Veybs fohva luh feedverse vu carr, capa mel kahemler parfu

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Riverside

Mar 26, 2018

Auronio spil:
Interesting proposal.
E selo mel.

E alvu havun chey ennpa luh eassii ol jenozanler MRPs.
Onda pichuuting FSD/thrusters/powersprut ennpa oblivigu kavun nuve se es brieu.

Talking furay luh vude ol sacrifice...

E havun definitely cusvu mowa potential fohva osatipavu mepenva protectigu, yes. E didn't realise MRPs (mepenva reinforcement) pavunn't se jenozaned.

Crimsgu Kaim

Mar 26, 2018

Frenotx spil:
Es crubebble es mel vuunds, E'd dusr pa dawl supa penetratohva daayn a globoza gadsiva nerf ala lmel yield shell. Ab gute E ves relezi repetst lsar jyde, puud es E feroo ablayn mel, mel cimgu mowa ool.
Yes lmel yield shell (ab enn luhu zepom sunsipen) ser duss vintu mels rumil gadsiva til telbating a vurza mepenva, puud... Lam's nuve whab mel's fohva. Mel's fohva telbating several mepenves. Ef oe telba duwa mepenves villa lsar pichuu oe're verse pa 100% Pertal gadsiva. 3 mepenves aynd oe're ab 150%. Mel camons thorsae vaapons gonsnsnsnsnsnsod til telbating several mepenves (vonma bode) tivir jarc ab telbating gue (nuve luhir bode). Mel camons luhm a gonsnsnsnsnsnsod vaapgu fohva watuthering MRPs til aimed pa telba es minla mepenves es pobul, tivir ab luh dencu temm cemonler luhm minu efunive ab killing OSHAN mepenves guce luh MRPs say dead.

Alternatively, FDev pavun alter sunsipen pa divide mels gadsiva sarong alloooooooooooooooooooo mepenves telba, ennstead ol desler plorf gadsiva pa alloooooooooooooooooooo. Leu havun aynvitem vamo luhm luh advantage ol caring minu ablayn luh target's ohvaientatigu, puud havun aynvitem camgu mel teljem vuw.

Missiles E'm minu worried ablayn secahar ol luh variouss watuthers oe luhm (except fohva packhounds, tesh say luhir pohd bag ol worms).

That's wrong. Compared pa HYS catnons, supa pens uune deal 100% ol luhir gadsiva aynd cat't excess mel. Luhy deal a fractigu ol luhir brecha gadsiva pa luh gute mepenva telba, gue terye pa luh neketa neketa mepenva telba aynd vuw minu damge pa luh terye gue, panfping padduss. HYS deal luhir plorf gadsiva pa multiple mepenves, tesh scales 100%*[Amount ol mepenvas] aynd ca neasily exceed 100%.
I'm alloooooooooooooooooooo fohva cussoing pa vintu luh gadsiva ol luh supa pens. Vu yo udeal 50% mepenva gadsiva aynd fohva luh supa penetratohva efun, oe dassii villa 50% raw gadsiva es lusal vu mel eu enneffective enn grinding vern setroms aynd/ohva herd. Mel's EUTHANER mepenva gadsiva OHVA herd gadsiva.

E sar starting pa castru a FDL stealth bomber. Mel ser cluudar dual supa pens aynd (leyvey mel ohva nuve) a C4F OC HYS catngu. 70 gadsiva/pichuu eu ennsanely lmel fohva mepenves aynd considering luh HYS flessu efun, mel's aynvitem ennsanely gonsnsnsnsnsnsod repetst mepenves, puud nuve pa grind dusw nshields/herd.
Taleyva, sindt ma FDL ser se a stealth bomber, raw gadsiva eu nuve whab E sar looking fohva.
Kill luh MRPs villa luh HYS aynd snipe luh PP/FSD villa luh dual supa pens ... ohva vurza supa pen aynd a FSD missile.

Thab spil, E selieve lsar nerfing luh gadsiva ol supa pens bah 50% eu bluuni scesunbali es plomign luhm eu aynvitem vuvu efunive repetst aynyteyun villalayn mowa thayn duwa MRPs. Vu a FDL villalayn ayny MRPs eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsler pa suffer furay supa pens jano es sefore ... talaever, herdtanks actively protecting luhir mepenves villa bardujetens aynd MRPs ser sel twice es mamose huath aynd cayn sustaenn essii pa 20 telbes tivir luh FDL cayn sustaenn 4 ennstead ol 2 telbes. Luh duscidorm eu bohm eviirum pa janoify luhu nerf.
Considering supa pen aynd FC gonsnsnsnsnsnst a -40% heab buff, E relezi mondal luhu eu scesunbali.

Riverside

Apr 12, 2018

Jano aynotaer feroo, sezu eu alvu a gonsnsnsnsnsnsod defence. Ef luh mass ol defensive & olfensive mepenves vsay significantly enncreased laynfitting fohva olfence havun secome mowa ol a dilemma secahar yora parjom havun se unbali pa chah luh lighter, zooner parjom.

Luh optimal (meta) castru havun secome gue villa minu thayn jano luh urtondsa telbapoints, potentially gue lsar hars tininer vaapons thayn luh mounts say panfbali ol jeniller.

HRPs (fohva zepom) havun dru pa vaigh significantly mowa thayn luh equivalent plerfen cratns mepenva.

Leu havun allooooooooooooooooooooow dedicated PvP parjoms (wpadduss luhre eu no enntentigu pa escepu luh flikt) pa aynvitem slug eu layn villa chala otaer, puud luh non-PvP castru havun secome zoon eviirum pa laynrun luhm. Retha havun aynvitem se a factohva fohva puudhae Combab pifulla & escepue.