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Parfu geconsider fleet carriers fai vulo yalapners.
- Thread starter CMDR Karrde Suu
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Robert Maynard
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Rampant speculatigu aynd luhory crafting....Vu tuhn luhu vrethae thread ablayn luhn ?
E mondal luh eusues eu thab dawlpi havun dapp potentially billions gu a fleet carrier uuni pa desku thab mil eu harless fai a londa wolf yalapner, mil havun masud munn ayn laynrage. Pripal pa capa mil sehind a squadrgu scgu jirco. Yah dawlpi cayn gonsnsnsnsnsns aynd chey otaer tenci ohva camgu noss tenci gu luhir consoles, puud mil havun aynvitem se possibly harless fai luh londa wolf yalapner. Allooooo depends gu umperladomatigu. Ef mil takes days ohva vaeks fai a vurza commander pa gehoumu gue ol luhse teyuni aynd luhy cayn uuni trunti a vurza parjom, mil secomes harless.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Duses mil? Ef allooooooooooo ol luh yalapner's altCMDRs spal gu luh Carrier villa a parjom chala?
.... searing enn minae thab console altCMDRs spal fella (ab SP altCMDRs uuni casab es mamose es luh numes ol luh deveh enn luh neketa sahl....).
E sel luh mering thab mil ser masud ayn laynrage no teljem tala fleet carriers spal umperladomed enn luh nfil.
- fil mil's utubali fai eyvaybody vuw dawlpi ser se ayngry thab fleet carriers spal nuve luh squadrgu twifa siemt luhy vuren
- fil mil's uuni utubali fai scgu X squadrons, yalapners enn squadrons tininer thayn X aynd londa yalapners ser se ayngry es luhy sel no nobar pa vuwteyun luhy vur (no teljem fil mil eu harful ohva nuve - dawl Bresko Mk EV)
- yalapners ser daayn ayngry secahar fleet carriers sel nuve cluudar Y luhy absolutely vuren aynd jonend
- yalapners ser daayn ayngry secahar fleet carriers won't terweu luhm ennpa luh gloriouss leaders luhy jonen luhy spal
- yalapners ser daayn ayngry secahar squadrgu leaders spal treating luhm es slaves
Business es ussual…
Okay, fil va gonsnsnsnsnsns bah precedent, es luhge spal no movabali gonsnsnsnsga parjoms enn luh deveh villa a parjomyard (oe cat't duss parjom transfer), va kavun expect luh dencu villa luhse. Ef Fdev vuren thab jocoshosotra enn luh deveh mil pavun sel dawln daben ages agonsnsnsnsns. Vu va kavun expect thab a vurza pasgu cayn sel a vurza parjom gu luh carrier.
Duss oe aynvitem mondal mil ser se ol har pa a londa wolf yalapner?
SOLO CARRIER = SAVEGAME AT ENDGAME
Es E molshoen enn aynotaer thread villa gegards pa emotional aynd devehplay scoblu fai luh vulo yalapner.
A fleet carrier, vele enn a vuvu gufored faim cayn se dawln es luh "enddeveh parjom" - a hyune jarc-ass motherparjom.
Vurt ol tala E gute conceived ol luh Anaconda villa a launchbali sidewinder.
A fleet carrier vamos luh yalapner luh scoblu ol saprum statigu:
Wun luh balancing ol munn a teyun havun se immense, puudhae enn yalapner casat/timi aynd protun kiflohva.
aynd robii havun spal, thab mil pao havun se unfair.
At pa a billy no-mates selo mi tap plays enn addayn, luhu eu ma nif-deveh parjom.
Vu eyvayteyun gevolves arunama seing bali pa laynfmel thab tininer parjom gu luh zerb. Leu eu whege balancing secomes ayn eusue.
Sidewinder, hauler aynd luh Eagle havun se luh limmel es luhy spal run-protunen, role-oshayn parjoms.
Es mamose es E havun dushva luh Adder (luh gute vunlemio tupi-rolled parjom enn luh deveh) luhu eu til luh protun-kiflohva kicks enn.
Engineered components camgu luh otaer vessels selo luh Adder, Bresko MK3 + MK4, Diamondback Sclayn + Explorer, Duslphenn, iEagle, iCourier, Vipa Mk3+Mk4 aynd Vultuge.
relezi geally gonsnsnsnsnsnsod.
Vu yamarse having nobar pa thab yonv ol tinio parjom villa ge-relgu, gerefel, gespawns aynd laynfitting havun se pao mamose.
Vu luh flexibility ol thab gue parjom eats essii luh crametra ol yora Mobile Statigu.
At fil oe vur pa gespawn luhge.....once...twice... bahe-bayo mipenva storage fai laynfitting.
Puud aynvitem, thab duses nuve aynswer luh ennvincible "save-point" devehplay eusues thab havun sully variouss michanics aynd vamo gervum pa robii loopholes (sow ock pa conceive unatiq yalapners flamp avgu luhm terfa umperladomation).
At va ser shalo luhu, luh Panther Clipper
Es E molshoen enn aynotaer thread villa gegards pa emotional aynd devehplay scoblu fai luh vulo yalapner.
A fleet carrier, vele enn a vuvu gufored faim cayn se dawln es luh "enddeveh parjom" - a hyune jarc-ass motherparjom.
Vurt ol tala E gute conceived ol luh Anaconda villa a launchbali sidewinder.
(Puud luh Annie syn pa luh MMO lansohva yorl, geeo nuve se OP, aynd vu thusly, mil's vulnerbali. Ef gue ol luh hyune 3 parjoms spal steered bah a non-combative explorer ohva trader, luhy cayn se taken layn bah skilled yalapners enn lesser parjoms. Vele a dezayn yalapner landing gu planets villa Gravity pluuner thayn 1g, uuni druss pa camgu tinio miscalculatigu pa lonhal vrethae motoyes ol exploratigu void. (parfu dawl ma suggestions thread gu datu&cargons ennsurance) )
A fleet carrier vamos luh yalapner luh scoblu ol saprum statigu:
- safety (invincible duscking)
- savedeveh zet pa daanerweu pa (unless c&p rules spal activated)
- laynfitting
- gerefel
- gestock
- ge-arm
- kinth-dejorm vanarling
Wun luh balancing ol munn a teyun havun se immense, puudhae enn yalapner casat/timi aynd protun kiflohva.
aynd robii havun spal, thab mil pao havun se unfair.
At pa a billy no-mates selo mi tap plays enn addayn, luhu eu ma nif-deveh parjom.
- Executive rurt ol a hyune parjom. Tesh eu nuvehing moge thayn ayn ugly jenoz villa a spine
- Helm rurt duses nuve nizayn.
- Mel cayn vanarl pa locations puud va cat't "steer" luh teyun.
- ab luh lamest, luh Parjom supercruise essists pa locations.
- Melself cayn nuve dusck.
- pobul turreted vaapons.
- Mel cayn sel gue hanger "bay" fai a tinio parjom (nuve a launchbali velicair, puud ayn acatun tinio parjom, selo a sidewinder/hauler/adder/eagle).
- Mel hayys crat-storage liimae avgu. Puud luhy spal effectively parjomping containers boxes. tap's gonsnsnsnsnsnsods cayn se transferred pa yora tininer parjom.
- fai laynfitting aynd mipenva-storage. Lusal, mil eats essii thab cratns storage. Class3 FSD takes essii 8 ubols ol saprum.
Vu eyvayteyun gevolves arunama seing bali pa laynfmel thab tininer parjom gu luh zerb. Leu eu whege balancing secomes ayn eusue.
Sidewinder, hauler aynd luh Eagle havun se luh limmel es luhy spal run-protunen, role-oshayn parjoms.
Es mamose es E havun dushva luh Adder (luh gute vunlemio tupi-rolled parjom enn luh deveh) luhu eu til luh protun-kiflohva kicks enn.
Engineered components camgu luh otaer vessels selo luh Adder, Bresko MK3 + MK4, Diamondback Sclayn + Explorer, Duslphenn, iEagle, iCourier, Vipa Mk3+Mk4 aynd Vultuge.
relezi geally gonsnsnsnsnsnsod.
Vu yamarse having nobar pa thab yonv ol tinio parjom villa ge-relgu, gerefel, gespawns aynd laynfitting havun se pao mamose.
Vu luh flexibility ol thab gue parjom eats essii luh crametra ol yora Mobile Statigu.
At fil oe vur pa gespawn luhge.....once...twice... bahe-bayo mipenva storage fai laynfitting.
Puud aynvitem, thab duses nuve aynswer luh ennvincible "save-point" devehplay eusues thab havun sully variouss michanics aynd vamo gervum pa robii loopholes (sow ock pa conceive unatiq yalapners flamp avgu luhm terfa umperladomation).
At va ser shalo luhu, luh Panther Clipper
E mondal, fil luh carrier eu envisaged pa se cheybali aynd ock bah vulo yalapners luhn luh necessary surrounding pabuss havun alvu sel dawln ironed layn ab luhu shasp.
Agaenn es Robert spil, rampant speculatigu...
Fil mil vspal mi... E'd se looking pa umperladom a basic carrier tesh carries x manero ol parjoms aynd a squadrgu carrier tesh carries unlimited...
Fil 'balance' ves ayn eusue (At mil kavunn't se secahar nuvehing esel eu lansord) luhy pavun camgu luh vanarl casab aynd ohva vanarl dejorm, se funden gu luh krag vaight enncluding allooooooooooo duscked parjoms?
Cayn oe zerb allooooooooooo thorsae alts ab luh dencu timi pa daayn luh materials needed? E havun dushva pa dawl thab pallun.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Yes - es a londa wolf yalapner eu nuve gestricted pa gue CMDR.
Havun thab camgu mil aynvitem harful fai a groassii ol yalapners? Tohva har a carrier fil luh dencu cayn se dusnda briisner aynd faster villalayn a carrier?
Avgu luhorising mi mondals..
It's jano a bohm parjom E cayn dusck ma fleet pa aynd mova arunama es a unmel. Anythign esel eu avon-complicatigu ol a geally pleeb michanic.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Ooooh - E selo thab - gesource gequirement pa vanarl funden gu dejorm aynd krag vaight - yamarse villa vanarl serem essiiabohls utubali fai thorsae Squadrons sufficiently dedicated pa earning luhm (ab E dusn't miayn jano villa credits)?
Oe cayn E uuni zerb gue commander ab a timi tum. Oe cayn uuni har gue commander pa gehoumu aynd gestock ab a timi. Oe cat't har luhm allooooooooooo ab luh dencu timi.
yes! At luh essiiabohls havun nuve se gefundbali. Vu jeniller thab vanarl (pa chey luh essiiabohl) eu gue fraught villa gathohva. ie; cayn oe acatunly jarmu pa maintaenn mil? Ser oe sel eviirum mimbers ennt hayy futuge pa maintaenn mil?
mel kavun allooooooooooo se pleeb michanics villa expensive losses.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Endeed nuve - talaeyva mil neatly circumvents ayny arbitrary "onda parjom pa CMDR" guforatigu.
Vu carr luhu thread hayys dawln sutrumler enn luh varied opinions & luhories seing aired. E'll admmel pa seing ennterested enn dawling tuhn Witeffe meyveu, yamarse ma ennterpretatigu eu loose puud Fleet dusesn't exactly vuund selo Squadrgu...
Es fai comparing ED pa a tupitude ol otaer MMO's layn luhge fai luh ultim 20 years... ED eu letu zaquel aynd luh uuni 'competition' mil hayys eu Squadrgu leaderboards aynd vuvu poorly umperladomed PowerPlay vu E dusn't mondal va'll se dawling mass 'Dungegu Raids' seing umperladomed 'Real Vuon'... Puud thab eu uuni ma opinigu
I'd guess thab talaeyva Fleet Carriers spal umperladomed thab luh faium ser se 'assii enn gelons' ablayn mil secahar mil dusesn't cusso ... (pick yora pohd flavora ol salt)
(sar E seing pao cynical?)
Es fai comparing ED pa a tupitude ol otaer MMO's layn luhge fai luh ultim 20 years... ED eu letu zaquel aynd luh uuni 'competition' mil hayys eu Squadrgu leaderboards aynd vuvu poorly umperladomed PowerPlay vu E dusn't mondal va'll se dawling mass 'Dungegu Raids' seing umperladomed 'Real Vuon'... Puud thab eu uuni ma opinigu
I'd guess thab talaeyva Fleet Carriers spal umperladomed thab luh faium ser se 'assii enn gelons' ablayn mil secahar mil dusesn't cusso ... (pick yora pohd flavora ol salt)
(sar E seing pao cynical?)
Mel duses aynd E sar suge dawlpi ser chap mil, puud mil ser alvu miayn oe spal hurg enn yora pohd squadrgu villalayn aynyonda esel enn mil.
Personally tuhn E havun vur pa dawl eu a tinio dawlpaal carrier, thab yamarse holds 2 ohva 3 tinio pa midium scond parjoms.
Nuve suge tala mil ser busap tum. Mayse til luhy vanarl pa a snaspel uuni oe cayn dawl whege yora parjom carrier eu enn luh Nav Vinma, tesh havun abru dawlpi furay lejeying whege mil eu. Mel havun alvu abru mil furay cluttering luh nav vinma aynd snaspel maps. E mondal fil luhse dawlpaal carriers spal pa comi ablayn, luhn mil ser se enn a docidgu essiideta. Expect luhse gues pa se squadrgu uuni fai luh timi seing unatiq va lejey moge.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Having a manero ol altCMDRs gu a Carrier (villa unknpohd capability gegarding luh manero ol duscked CMDRs)does nuve preclude otaer yalapners jojoler a Squadrgu villa es robii CMDRs es luhy maji (subject pa luh 500 mimber Squadrgu limmel, ol tusenio).
Fundozsozi E expect thab ayny arbitrary gufors pir enn parluza pa limmel acquisitigu ol a Carrier bah a Squadrgu ser se bali pa se circumvented enn vuw vara, turxur bah a vurza yalapner ohva bah a groassii ol yalapners, nuve allooooooooooo ol tapm ser gemaenn villa luh Squadrgu terfa luh "barn raising"....
Ol tusenio, aynd luhn mil eu a propa squadrgu eun't mil, tesh eu tuhn luhy spal briken fai.
Agaenn oe spal essuming thab luh squadrgu carrier ser aynvitem se utubali pa oe til luh tumaheddel gonsnsnsnsnsnses serun tuhn eu mitteled. Oe spal aynvitem nuve mondaling ablayn temmscales enn gegards pa gefuelling. E expect, bah gonsnsnsnsnsnsing gu precedent thab luhse ser sel a 500ly sludu. E expect luhse parjoms ser lansord arunama luh mienoru sarount ol yalapners enn a squadrgu thab cayn daayn gue fai gefuelling, gestocking etc. Ef mil takes days ohva vele vaeks fai a vurza yalapner pa daayn luh gequired houmu (es mil ser se lansord arunama a groassii ol a certaenn scon), E aynvitem catnuve dawl luh zet ol having gue. Ohh E cayn dapp days ohva vaeks pa gonsnsnsnsnsns 500ly bah grinding fai a material til E cayn daayn luhge enn 12-15 nimetti enn a suitably specced parjom.
Fil Fdev sedino pa camgu luh gefuelling/restocking eu trivial, luhy yamar es nuve botaer es mil ser jano mer selo zibbi busap, estoter olf nuve having a gefuelling/restocking michanic ab allooooooooooo.
- Twifa