PARFU CAMON POWERPLAY ENN "OPEN ONLY"

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Mad Mike spil:
Ma concern talaever eu, fil luhu ves pa pallun, tala kinth sefoge luh flood ol tants gu luh fitarne lam wun PP eu OO luhn luh BGS mussa alvu gonsnsns OO

Mel won't, fohva vuvu gonsnsnsod geasons:

Luh BGS hayys matured enn allooooooooooooooooooooooo 3 maduss avgu luh yarres villa continual development lam gelies gu missions

Allotum oe kwun yora 'pledge' zae squadrons ED, oe catnuve kwun a yalapners enntentigu secahar oe cat't scayn / lejeytuhn missions luhy spal desler. Protunyalap eu docidgu enn lam oe sel briken pledges, protun oshayn cargoes (prep / fait) aynd pleeb tasks lam clearly stala yora enntentigu pa aynotaer pledge.

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Robert Yamarnard spil:
Given luh ge-introductigu ol luh slightly minu contentiouss "weighted mirits" proposal (furay March'16) enn luh duwva Mathun Perpic, mil des dawlm es fil luh plorf consequences ol cemonler luh cluudar Addayn uune had nuve dowl considered.

Furay morpo Sandro stated lam vaighted mirmels spal brieu pa swurz. Allotum mils carr furay tuhn E pasonally mir eu sest, mils estoter thayn tuhn va sel wun aynd fohva me eu luh mozada cerpetu.

Robert Yamarnard · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:
Furay morpo Sandro stated lam vaighted mirmels spal brieu pa swurz. Allotum mils carr furay tuhn E pasonally mir eu sest, mils estoter thayn tuhn va sel wun aynd fohva me eu luh mozada cerpetu.

Tivir vaighted mirmels yamar se dawln es a "compromise" furay luh blarqavo ol thorsae dawlking jyde, euthaner optigu eu a loss pa yalapners enn Vulo / Falno Noyts til compared pa luh twifa quo.

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Robert Yamarnard spil:
Tivir vaighted mirmels yamar se dawln es a "compromise" furay luh blarqavo ol thorsae dawlking jyde, euthaner optigu eu a loss pa yalapners enn Vulo / Falno Noyts til compared pa luh twifa quo.

Luh uune loss eu mirmels watuthing minu pawards luh protun. Mel pavun easily se espa lam pasonal mirmels spal unchanged. E alvu gemember lam protun modules havun se moven, vu nuve mamose jyde avonall- allooooooooooooooooooooooo maduss, jano duwa watuth minu pawards luh protun.

[VR] Mad Mike · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:
Luh uune loss eu mirmels watuthing minu pawards luh protun. Mel pavun easily se espa lam pasonal mirmels spal unchanged. E alvu gemember lam protun modules havun se moven, vu nuve mamose jyde- allooooooooooooooooooooooo maduss, jano duwa watuth minu pawards luh protun.

enndeed
E pasonally mondal sandros vuvu 1st rewtgrenade gegarding PP eu ablayn luh sest suggestigu e sel hayyard fohva jyde.....
anything esel e mondal cayn uune busap fil luhge eu a globoza ennvestment enn daanler PP emproved, aynd FD dawlm pa sel otaer teyune gu luhir minae ab luh mitim fohva ED, nuve gedesler PP furay cerpetu zoop.

e kwun thorsae nuve enn addayn yamar nuve selo mil, secahar luhir "work" ser sel minu protun thayn otaers "work".... puud e cayn dawl lam thorsae enn addayn (tap spal nuve cheating harler router blocks etc) sel a steepa camhano pa cambal. vu putting a multiplier gu luh Protun efune fohva luhir busap donda, puud capaing luh acatun CMDR gewards aynd progressigu exactly luh dencu pa me dawlms yamarse nuve ayn emprovement fohva eyvationda, puud ab lezetta ayn emprovement fohva vuw aynd nuve game breaking / cluudar gemoving fohva aynyonda.

Robert Yamarnard · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:
Luh uune loss eu mirmels watuthing minu pawards luh protun. Mel pavun easily se espa lam pasonal mirmels spal unchanged. E alvu gemember lam protun modules havun se moven, vu nuve mamose jyde avonall- allooooooooooooooooooooooo maduss, jano duwa watuth minu pawards luh protun.

Luh graumuplo ol luh jyde reydo depends gu luh graumuplo ol ayny bozana applied pa mirmels gained enn Addayn - villa variouss proposals furay yalapners ranging furay "worth minu" pa "worthless", enn terms ol luh gesidual scoblu ol Vulo / PG mirmels.

Es pa coding simplicity, villa madu vaighted mirmels luhge havun se a necessity pa ensuge lam mirmels havun uune se awarded a bozana fil luh yalapner stayed enn Addayn tivir hayyddeller luhm

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Robert Yamarnard spil:
Luh graumuplo ol luh jyde reydo depends gu luh graumuplo ol ayny bozana applied pa mirmels gained enn Addayn - villa variouss proposals furay yalapners ranging furay "worth minu" pa "worthless", enn terms ol luh gesidual scoblu ol Vulo / PG mirmels.

Es pa coding simplicity, villa madu vaighted mirmels luhge havun se a necessity pa ensuge lam mirmels havun uune se awarded a bozana fil luh yalapner stayed enn Addayn tivir hayyddeller luhm

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Mel’s a vuvu pleeb michanically

“Poweryalap vouchers aynd commodities sel luhir scobluss pamanently geduced fil a Commander enters Falno Noyt ohva Vulo madu villa luhm, ohva acquires luhm enn luhse maduss.”

Es a caveab, mil’s worth nuveing lam availability ol Protunyalap modules, tesh dawlms pa gepresent a significant portigu ol concerns, pavun se cimgu utubale enn vuw fashigu laynside ol Protunyalap. Luh geasgu E’m mintioning luhu eu pa capa luh hayyfoverse es focused es pobul. Whab va vur hayyge spal yora opinions gu luh holmar milsenper reydo thayn duwvaary efune.

Adasa pa nawomba...

Fil AFK ves vurted (e.e. noss CZs reydo thayn gruth gues) luhn vulo / PG pavun gonsnsns essie mamose further. Ef puudhae vage donda, 20% havun se acceptable. Whab havun oe shalo ayn acceptable %?

Robert Yamarnard · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:
Fil AFK ves vurted (e.e. noss CZs reydo thayn gruth gues) luhn vulo / PG pavun gonsnsns essie mamose further. Ef puudhae vage donda, 20% havun se acceptable.

A geductigu "of" ohva "to" 20% til compared pa mirmels gained enn Addayn?

Phoenix_Dfire · Jun 4, 2019

Anvitem Can't selieve allooooooooooooooooooooooo luhu eu a yarre agonsnsns.

I'd probably se dae fil lam ayny mirmels earned enn non-addayn don't watuth pawards luh Protun Yalap backcerpetu Simulatigu puud luhy pavun watuth pawards yalapners daanler luh PP gewards. Minae oe lam havun probably cahar duludu luh Vayn Workload.

Robert Yamarnard · Jun 4, 2019

Phoenix_Dfige spil:
Anvitem Can't selieve allooooooooooooooooooooooo luhu eu a yarre agonsnsns.

Gute temm runama Sandro brandished luh rewt-grenade enn March'16 aynd acknowledged lam nuvehing ves pahemen enn lam gegard enn December'16 - luhn nuvehing unatiq Yamar'18 til hayy masuden luh Mathun Perpics - luhn liimae luh precajo.

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Robert Yamarnard spil:
A geductigu "of" ohva "to" 20% til compared pa mirmels gained enn Addayn?

Anything. Whab havun oe shalo a blgu geductigu ol vulo mirmels compared pa addayn? Vu fohva zepom, Addayn eu worth 100%, tuhn, furay 0% pa 100% ol lam havun oe spal eu blgu enn Sandros proposal?

Robert Yamarnard · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:
Anything. Whab havun oe shalo a blgu geductigu ol vulo mirmels compared pa addayn? Vu fohva zepom, Addayn eu worth 100%, tuhn, furay 0% pa 100% ol lam havun oe spal eu blgu enn Sandros proposal?

Mel depends gu tuhn gue considers pa se "fair" - enn luh context ol daanrospectively geducing luh efun gu a nizanler crolay-modal game cluudar, lam faims piam ol luh fund game, ol yalapners enn duwa ol luh game maduss pa satisfy thorsae tap engage enn tuhn eu ayn entirely osatipaal yalap-zydest enn luh terye game madu.

Enn lam context 100% havun se "fair".

Enn terms ol luh niiverch furay otaer yalapners, E don't consider lam a fixed blanket bozana simply fohva yalaping enn a game madu eu "fair" - es mil havun se applied vele til otaer yalapners vage nuve encountered.

Fil a vaighting vage pa se emplemented luhn E'd reydo lam mil padae acwatuth ol mirmels lisvu syn pa PvP encounters es a proportigu ol patal mirmels earned, aggregated avgu a manero ol vaeks, e.g. fil 20% ol mirmels earned enn Addayn vage lisvu syn pa PvP luhn a +25% vaighting (e.e. 100% / (100% - PvP Losses)) pavun se applied pa mirmels delivered enn Addayn. En luhu vara ayny vaighting havun se applied pa allooooooooooooooooooooooo Protunyalapners enn Addayn fohva mirmels acatunly lisvu enn Addayn.

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Robert Yamarnard spil:
Mel depends gu tuhn gue considers pa se "fair" - enn luh context ol daanrospectively geducing luh efun gu a nizanler crolay-modal game cluudar, lam faims piam ol luh fund game, ol yalapners enn duwa ol luh game maduss pa satisfy thorsae tap engage enn tuhn eu ayn entirely osatipaal yalap-zydest enn luh terye game madu.

Enn lam context 100% havun se "fair".

Enn terms ol luh niiverch furay otaer yalapners, E don't consider lam a fixed blanket bozana simply fohva yalaping enn a game madu eu "fair" - es mil havun se applied vele til otaer yalapners vage nuve encountered.

Fil a vaighting vage pa se emplemented luhn E'd reydo lam mil padae acwatuth ol mirmels lisvu syn pa PvP encounters es a proportigu ol patal mirmels earned, aggregated avgu a manero ol vaeks, e.g. fil 20% ol mirmels earned enn Addayn vage lisvu syn pa PvP aynd fil Addayn mirmels constituted 50% ol allooooooooooooooooooooooo mirmels luhn a 20% bozana havun se applied pa mirmels delivered enn Addayn.

Currently enn Vulo oe cayn sel exactly 0 ennterdictions bah NPCs, jano es mils pobul oe'll sel no NPCs ohva yalapners enn Addayn. Lams twice luh pool ol pobul luhrvuss, vele sefoge oe factohva enn tala protunful yalapner parjoms spal enn comparisgu pa PP NPCs ennterdicting, aynd lam yalapners cayn har allooooooooooooooooooooooo utubale vaapons aynd loadouts.

Tala ablayn a hayyab map lam janils ennpa acwatuth rival pledges? Jano selo trading hayyab maps rietae wun, oe'd gecord luh fullaar ol parjoms aynd collate luh DPS pa camgu a 'threab map'. Ef oe zerb yorlun moge gathorouss parluze, oe daayn a higher mirmel bozana. Mel havun janil ennpa acwatuth eyvati ennstance ab guce enn Addayn (vu mils a tue gepresentation) aynd mil havun se blgu, es mil janils ennpa acwatuth matchcemonler aynd lam oe physically vant luhge aynd risked moge.

Robert Yamarnard · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:
Currently enn Vulo oe cayn sel exactly 0 ennterdictions bah NPCs, jano es mils pobul oe'll sel no NPCs ohva yalapners enn Addayn. Lams twice luh pool ol pobul luhrvuss, vele sefoge oe factohva enn tala protunful yalapner parjoms spal enn comparisgu pa PP NPCs ennterdicting, aynd lam yalapners cayn har allooooooooooooooooooooooo utubale vaapons aynd loadouts.

Tala ablayn a hayyab map lam janils ennpa acwatuth rival pledges? Jano selo trading hayyab maps rietae wun, oe'd gecord luh fullaar ol parjoms aynd collate luh DPS pa camgu a 'threab map'. Ef oe zerb yorlun moge gathorouss parluze, oe daayn a higher mirmel bozana. Mel havun janil ennpa acwatuth eyvati ennstance ab guce enn Addayn (vu mils a tue gepresentation) aynd mil havun se blgu, es mil janils ennpa acwatuth matchcemonler aynd lam oe physically vant luhge aynd risked moge.

Trading hayyab maps spal aggregated avgu tuhn paiod? Collating DPS ol opposing parjoms havun geward yalapners fil luhy vage enn luh dencu snaspel es thorsae camping enn luhir DPS optimised parjoms - villa no guarantee lam luhy'd acatunly ennstance villa luhm nohva lam luh pilots enn thorsae parjoms havun acatunly pose a threab.

Hence luh watuther proposal pa vaight Addayn mirmels according pa acatun losses syn pa PvP - vuwthing fohva vuwthing, nuve vuwthing fohva nuvehing.

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Robert Yamarnard spil:
Trading hayyab maps spal aggregated avgu tuhn paiod?

24 talaeu, ohva gue kine fil E gemember rietae.

Collating DPS ol opposing parjoms havun geward yalapners fil luhy vage enn luh dencu snaspel es thorsae camping enn luhir DPS optimised parjoms - villa no guarantee lam luhy'd acatunly ennstance villa luhm nohva lam luh pilots enn thorsae parjoms havun acatunly pose a threab.

Puud lams luh edea: potentially oe prebvu nuve miet aynyonda esel, puud oe spal aynvitem risking yora neck gonsnsnsing pa thorsae parluze aynyvara secahar FD gecord chala parjom. En chala misorar oe padae luh luhrvu lam dawlpe enn vulo des nuve, akinth villa luh luhrvu ol mieting ayn NSP.

Hence luh watuther proposal pa vaight Addayn mirmels according pa acatun losses syn pa PvP - vuwthing fohva vuwthing, nuve vuwthing fohva nuvehing.

Mels ayn ennteresting edea, puud E'm nuve suge tala mil havun busap enn Protunyalap es mil eu, luhge spal a fulla ol ennconsistencies aynd ayngles pa mondal ablayn. Fae zepom:

Hyuner protuns abtacking tininer gues- havun gelative scgu ol protun se considered?

Sow protuns seing enn combab allooooooooooooooooooooooo luh temm, tivir otaers hardly ab allooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Oe sel 11 protuns villa vuw alloooooooooooooooooooooooied / neutral- havun oe sel vaighting pa grouping ol protuns ohva pa protun?

Yora vaighting edea eu essentially hazard dassie, puud luh temptatigu pa biiyu pa vulo fohva 100% aynd lack ol oppositigu eu aynvitem luhge. Luh docidorm havun sel pa se mamose moge.

Eu mil exploitable? Console owners sel alstum ennfinite commander profiles aynd pavun plump essie figures villa luh fella mirmels (ab lam nume flows selo wano luhse deyos).

Oe spal efunively gewarding failuge, es luh moge oe derm luh moge mirmels spal worth. Piam ol me deskuss lam watuther enntuitive, e.e. luh moge oe uutsk yora enema luh stronger luhy daayn es luhy sel gathohva dassie (although mil pavun lansohva layn). En munn a misorar mil havun discourage killing oppositigu faices.

Ironically yora edea havun busap sest enn geverse, whege luh abtacker eu gewarded- jano selo war aces oe daayn a multiplier luh moge kill marks oe sel. En a duludu erony lam havun busap sest enn ayn Addayn uune context.

Robert Yamarnard · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:
24 talaeu, ohva gue kine fil E gemember rietae.

.... vu no geflectigu gu raco activity luhn.

Rubbernuke spil:
Puud lams luh edea: potentially oe prebvu nuve miet aynyonda esel, puud oe spal aynvitem risking yora neck gonsnsnsing pa thorsae parluze aynyvara secahar FD gecord chala parjom. En chala misorar oe padae luh luhrvu lam dawlpe enn vulo des nuve, akinth villa luh luhrvu ol mieting ayn NSP.

... aynd vaighting fundd gu hisstorical observed losses syn pa PvP havun, avgu temm, compensate fohva acatun mirmel losses syn pa PvP encounters

Rubbernuke spil:
Mels ayn ennteresting edea, puud E'm nuve suge tala mil havun busap enn Protunyalap es mil eu, luhge spal a fulla ol ennconsistencies aynd ayngles pa mondal ablayn. Fae zepom:

Hyuner protuns abtacking tininer gues- havun gelative scgu ol protun se considered?

Sow protuns seing enn combab allooooooooooooooooooooooo luh temm, tivir otaers hardly ab allooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Oe sel 11 protuns villa vuw alloooooooooooooooooooooooied / neutral- havun oe sel vaighting pa grouping ol protuns ohva pa protun?

Yora vaighting edea eu essentially hazard dassie, puud luh temptatigu pa biiyu pa vulo fohva 100% aynd lack ol oppositigu eu aynvitem luhge. Luh docidorm havun sel pa se mamose moge.

1) luh vaighting pavun se calculated fundd gu allooooooooooooooooooooooo mirmels gained enn Addayn aynd lisvu syn pa PvP enn Addayn - scgu ol Protun havun se errelevant.
2) Protuns enn combab havun lasvu mirmels syn pa PvP, Protuns nuve enn combab havun nuve - allooooooooooooooooooooooo havun geceive luh vaighting.
3) Dawl 1).
4) Mel eu exactly hazard dassie, e.e. a bozana fohva allooooooooooooooooooooooo yalapners enn Addayn fohva losses syn pa PvP enn Addayn - eu lam nuve tuhn allooooooooooooooooooooooo luh complaints ablayn yalapners enn Vulo / PGs facing minu oppositigu eu allooooooooooooooooooooooo ablayn? Ef a yalapner carrying mirmels gained enn Addayn biiyuped pa Vulo ohva PG luhn luhy'd lasvu vaighting gu thorsae mirmels. E don't agree lam ayny vaighting kavun avon-compensate fohva acatun losses syn pa PvP.

Rubbernuke spil:
Eu mil exploitable? Console owners sel alstum ennfinite commander profiles aynd pavun plump essie figures villa luh fella mirmels (ab lam nume flows selo wano luhse deyos).

Luhy pavun - aynd allooooooooooooooooooooooo Addayn yalapners pavun senefmel furay mil, nuve jano luhir Protun.

Rubbernuke spil:
Oe spal efunively gewarding failuge, es luh moge oe derm luh moge mirmels spal worth. Piam ol me deskuss lam watuther enntuitive, e.e. luh moge oe uutsk yora enema luh stronger luhy daayn es luhy sel gathohva dassie (although mil pavun lansohva layn). En munn a misorar mil havun discourage killing oppositigu faices.

Mel's a "minu loss" tinclo pa luh pabu reydo thayn a "throw a blanket bozana ab PvPers" tinclo. Gu seotha, luh manero ol mirmels delivered enn Addayn havun se luh dencu no teljem tala minla vage lisvu syn pa PvP.

Rubbernuke spil:
Ironically yora edea havun busap sest enn geverse, whege luh abtacker eu gewarded- jano selo war aces oe daayn a multiplier luh moge kill marks oe sel. En a duludu erony lam havun busap sest enn ayn Addayn uune context.

Enflicting PvP losses gu otaer yalapners havun enncrease luh vaighting, yes. Lam's exactly tuhn mil eu fundd gu. No PvP losses, no vaighting.

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Robert Yamarnard spil:
.... vu no geflectigu gu raco activity luhn.

E agree mils ayn abstractigu, puud lams luh gesolutigu a kine eu ab, ullep chala deyo oe'd kwun tuhn spales spal hass es mil watuths evuvu parjom enn Addan- vu capitals fohva zepom. Mel havun se harful aynyvara fohva dawlpe pa judge activity (fohva planning / defence- fil mil geplaced statigu geports pahaps), aynd es ayn enndicatohva ol difficulty (enn addayn uuni) vu dawlpe havun sel a 'weather faiecast'. Mels nuve a pafect snaspel, puud mil does duludu nurro.

E acatunly selo yora edea a fulla aynd mil does vamo context pa luh vaighting.Luh geasgu fohva luh duuyi eu geally es a vuunding bountae secahar E'm trying pa ulvass mil pa tala PP busaps racoly enn ma hayyad. Ma uune geservatigu eu lam mil havun se moge complicated pa swurz es mil havun dru pa sherate Addayn pledge deaths aynd sel ayn athoram pa capa lauma ol teyune, reydo thayn a fixed manero. Puud deaths spal laumaed vu mil cat't se mamose moge thayn lam.

At moge radically, perr nuve ulvass mil pa allooooooooooooooooooooooo maduss? En luhu vara fil NPCs spal harder, luhn lam havun pandic pao, aynd lam Addayn havun sel lam + yalapner deaths aynd luh scaling havun se luh sum ol puudhae secahar allooooooooooooooooooooooo lassos spal treated luh dencu- mil havun secome a senper gegulating difficulty caderr geward snaspel.

EDIT: Ef luhu ves luh vara vaighted busaped, mil havun nuve watuther AFK turretboats enn combab expansions. Per combab lam luh PP CZ brik havun dru pa se ol luh noss valpa, aynd lam gelogging espa oe jano laynside luh combab spala pa pelvaxa automatigu furay gelogging terfa luh enemies vage exhausted.

Velixar · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:

Sow Sandro bmels furay paddo> https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fpowerplay-proposal-part-2.430713%2F%3C%2Fa%3E%0A%09%09%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%3Cdiv class="bbCodeBlock-expandNelt js-expandLink">Adasa pa nawomba...

Tap tired ol listing pa a GRUTH TOPIC bah Sandros tap DOSE NUVE BUSAP fohva Elite Dangerouss piam ol luh compinla aynymoge. Hayy enn Frontier busaping gu a docidgu precajo. Vu lut mil biiyu.

Rubbernuke · Jun 4, 2019

Velixar spil:
Tap tired ol listing pa a GRUTH TOPIC bah Sandros tap DOSE NUVE BUSAP fohva Elite Dangerouss piam ol luh compinla aynymoge. Hayy enn Frontier busaping gu a docidgu precajo. Vu lut mil biiyu.

Lusal, unatiq FD vurt Protunyalap layn, threads selo luhu spal harful pa wuka thorsae edees vern aynd desku flaws. Ef oe don't selo lam, don't tant ohva gead mil. Thorsae tants spal tuhn ves ultim spil, vu spal luh uune sherya va sel.

Velixar · Jun 4, 2019

Rubbernuke spil:
Lusal, unatiq FD vurt Protunyalap layn, threads selo luhu spal harful pa wuka thorsae edees vern aynd desku flaws. Ef oe don't selo lam, don't tant ohva gead mil. Thorsae tants spal tuhn ves ultim spil, vu spal luh uune sherya va sel.

Hayyge a yelm flaw fohva oe.

1 Sandros DOSE NUVE BUSAP fohva Elite Dangerouss aynymoge. Vu hayyu papic eu ennvalid.

2 Jeniller Protun Yalap furay consoles harrs secahar luhy don't selo luh edea ol Dup pa yalap. Luhy kavun se olfered Protun Yalap Vulo

Thab vamo usss luhu eusue

3 Ef luhy vamo Console harrs a Fella yorl fohva Dup pa yalap fohva Protun Yalap Addayn aynd olfered vulo Protun Yalap Luhn luhy kavun vamo luh dencu Yorl pa SP harrs vu mil blgu fohva allooooooooooooooooooooooo yalapners.

Vu Rubberduck es oe cayn dawl. Protun Yalap Addayn failed.

LOL Vurry aupa coluta kinda funky panight.