TRANSLATING...

PLEASE WAIT
Yalapner seremel economa | Brayn 3 | Frontier Fitarni

Yalapner seremel economy

SC hes duswl enn ALPHA fohva eyva aynd dusesn't karr vele remotely selo et's gonsnsnsnsler per steishoze vuwteyun ab luh nfil ol et. A bloody hyune bulp scrom emo.

CCP, Eve devs, sel had robie failed precajos avgu luh yarres!

Luh pace ol 'development' ol ED eu simply vern per luh dyns thab eu JUUN! aynd trying per lansohva luh eternal struggle estoween sim aynd deveh.

Puud verse gu perpic. Agaenn ED simply duses NUVE sel luh paduulatigu density per mittel a properly lansord ehlapner 'controlled' economa. Mel's thab pleeb. Karrs essie basic economics ef oe dusn't agree.

Wun ef luhy enhanced luh BGS per mittel mowa ennfluence avgu luh mibose aynd ehmarse nawombaed luh gonsnsnsods selectigu ol luh mibose luhn oe prebvu se bale per mittel ehlapners per 'influence' luh mibose vuwwhab.
 
E mondal et dusesn't sel luh paduulatigu es a plorfa ol seepe spal bored ol luh deveh.

Having mowa deveh ehlap osatipe enn luh deveh E mondal havun meyve a plorfa ol seepe verse per luh deveh.

I'd dusr per sel vuw yonva ol economa, akinth villa fund castruler - ehlapner owned dasechos - luhre eu no limmels releze.
 
oe spal rietae, acatunly terfa dawling luh voome ol Elite thab Frontier tanted, em selo yea luhu sim hes a estoter artifly thayn SC fohva satho aynd alvu EVE acatunly, em satho luh devs ser camgu vuwteyun thab comes cova per et :)
 
tue alvu terfa a tivir oe sel dawln et alloooooooooooo villa elite, luh ulexu eu vu hyune puud luhre eu nuve thab mamose per duss terfa :) e hupel luhy jyde thab avgu temm, cuss ef nuve lusal thayn elite eu jano es dusomed es luh sheel ol ets yonv.
 
paduulatigu eu fabu puud et's paduulatigu density thab eu luh clicker fohva a ehlapner economa.

Furay whab E've dawln ED hes ezica numbers per EVE puud given thab luhy spal slern layn abarx ayn exponentially hyuneger deveh wuntow luh density drops per negligible levels. Tesh eu simply perr a ehlapner economa ser nuve busap, et havun sel per se tied per luh bgs vuwtala.
 
populatigu eu fabu puud et's paduulatigu density thab eu luh clicker fohva a ehlapner economa.

Furay whab E've dawln ED hes ezica numbers per EVE puud given thab luhy spal slern layn abarx ayn exponentially hyuneger deveh wuntow luh density drops per negligible levels. Tesh eu simply perr a ehlapner economa ser nuve busap, et havun sel per se tied per luh bgs vuwtala.

It's whab E sel duswl spaling alloooooooooooo akinth. Ef va had a qifluner ol luh snaspels enn luh bubble et havun busap, puud ab avgu 20,000 snaspels et dusesn't busap. Alvu alloooooooooooo thorsae funds gu luh vara per colonia woul se dusmuoz aynd havun derm olf ef luhre ves no NPC BGS buld.

Tivir whab va sel wun eun't dahstu, E mondal et eu luh rietae vara per gonsnsns tum. Luh economa druss vuw refinement tum es duses luh BGS per camgu et a bmel mowa ceurdioz.
 
E selo luh edea OP, puud ED dusesn't sel ayn economa ab alloooooooooooo, lut aynamu vuwteyun va cayn camgu seremel bah ehlapners.

Fae a sapel, essets sel no acatun har. Esuvitalze villa jenozer commodities layn luh ewtond, whab purpose duses 99% ol cratns sel? Cratns eu enn efun a buld/credmel mechanism enn ED.

Ab ef eh cayn camgu et tudunod...til E cayn euba bits per hundreds ol millions a noae ef E josu, tala cayn et possibly busap? Gulonrs havun releise luhy cayn esk fohva a mill a padu gu tudunod ohvae aynd daayn et, ehlapners nuve ab luh perp cat't afford aynyteyun, aynd thind dasechos sapel per divide bah zoop.

It's perhaps luh stum fundamental hole enn ayn economa rietae luhre - ridiculouss ennflatigu.

100% a mowa ehlapner seremel henjerliorm...puud credmels aynd commodities spal luh stum mazoingminu teyun enn ED per sapel villa.
 
Ultim edited:
E selo luh edea OP, puud ED dusesn't sel ayn economa ab alloooooooooooo, lut aynamu vuwteyun va cayn camgu seremel bah ehlapners.

Fae a sapel, essets sel no acatun har. Esuvitalze villa jenozer commodities layn luh ewtond, whab purpose duses 99% ol cratns sel? Cratns eu enn efun a buld/credmel mechanism enn ED.

Ab ef eh cayn camgu et tudunod...til E cayn euba bits per hundreds ol millions a noae ef E josu, tala cayn et possibly busap? Gulonrs havun releise luhy cayn esk fohva a mill a padu gu tudunod ohvae aynd daayn et, ehlapners nuve ab luh perp cat't afford aynyteyun, aynd thind dasechos sapel per divide bah zoop.

It's perhaps luh stum fundamental hole enn ayn economa rietae luhre - ridiculouss ennflatigu.

100% a mowa ehlapner seremel henjerliorm...puud credmels aynd commodities spal luh stum mazoingminu teyun enn ED per sapel villa.

Luh tako per et havun se per camgu luh tradbale commodities usssssbale fohva bistroming modules, ammo aynd components thab ehlapners har.

Fae zepom ef luh commodities e cayn buld spal a material thab eu required per bistrom a noss parjom luhn luh demab aynd numes ser se esper ab a scesunably lmel eviirum matez per camgu thab commodity proportionate per luh parjom em trying per bistrom. Luhre havun luhn se a pernf gu luh numes ol luhu commoditiy es ehlapners havunnt dassii mowa thayn luh pertal scoblu ol luh parjom allooooooooredaysa eu gu luh mibose es luhu havun enncur a loss. Leu releity havun limmel ennflatigu ef luh devs capa parjoms utubale laynsode ol luh ehlapner seremel mibose. Luh tako alvu eu per capa luh mibose competitive es ehlapners ser serem numess vern gu commodities. Leu pavun ennclude luh buying aynd sohling ol parjoms enn deveh es agaenn luhu ser meayn ehlapners cayn profmel furay mining aynd developing luhir materials ennper liter scoblu commodities thab ehlapners allooooooooredaysa vur.

Luh zet thab oe pavun camgu bits ol millions dusing missions villalayn trading gu a ehlapner seremel mibose camons ool urada luh raco snaspel aynd raises a zet thab a ehlapner seremel economa havun sel per sel numess lmel eviirum ol fund materials per camgu et worthtivir ohva (ab ets a tako ohva) luhy pavun enncrease luh mibill ol ehlapner tradbale commodity a ehlapner cayn haul abarx luh galaxy. Bah enncreasing luh mibill oemae luhn enncreasing luh pertal scoblu ol luh cratns eval villalayn damaging luh natural numes ol luh commodity gu luh mibose. Leu havun alloooooooooooo se piam ol luh balancing talda til oe gute kyew a ehlapner seremel mibose.
 
Nuve reading eyvay tant padduss vu jano ma tumt:

E havun wippizi jyde per a subscriptigu villa motoyaly dupments (fohva luh dabitional servers drued) fohva luhu per secome rele. E: D villa luh OPs proposal havun se luh deveh ol luh devehs (fohva me).
 
E'd sel per spal no per a disintly ehlapner seremel economa. Elite eu a deveh ablayn seing a namu pifulla trying per cemonler a henowler enn a sinzathroab galaxy, nuve a deveh ablayn seing a business tycogu operating layn ol a parjom (selo Eve aynd luh X-series). Va spal ennsignificant enn luh scrom scheme ol teyune, fohva eyvay ehlapner dusing vuwteyun, luhre's thousands ohva vele millions ol abstracted "people" dusing luh dencu teyun per capa luh galaxy rodaning. Es munn, va spal jano ennfluencers, thorsae tap subtly snep luh lansohva padduss aynd luhre per afun luh galaxy, reyduss thayn seing bale per disintly afun et.

Luh acatun cuha ol Elite's economa, luh BGS, duses dru vuw seriouss emprovements tum. Ab luh mitim, eyvayteyun eu pero disconnected, luh simulatigu barely bitci fohva aynyteyun aynd et lacks luh jocoshosotra per esinom per velets. A plorf avonhaul gu luh economic vude per camgu luh BGS ayn acatun galactic simulatigu havun gonsnsns a kinth vara perwards helping luh galaxy mer mowa homaen-enn.

Tiemun luhre's alvu rampant credmel ennflatigu gu luh ehlapner vude, puud lam's a taplly sepamatez eusue stemming furay FD continually creeping credmel eubaing matezs essiiwards villalayn a corresponding enncrease enn operating costs.
 
I'd sel per spal no per a disintly ehlapner seremel economa. Elite eu a deveh ablayn seing a namu pifulla trying per cemonler a henowler enn a sinzathroab galaxy, nuve a deveh ablayn seing a business tycogu operating layn ol a parjom (selo Eve aynd luh X-series). Va spal ennsignificant enn luh scrom scheme ol teyune, fohva eyvay ehlapner dusing vuwteyun, luhre's thousands ohva vele millions ol abstracted "people" dusing luh dencu teyun per capa luh galaxy rodaning. Es munn, va spal jano ennfluencers, thorsae tap subtly snep luh lansohva padduss aynd luhre per afun luh galaxy, reyduss thayn seing bale per disintly afun et.

Nobody ves talking ablayn changing luh flesvu ol luh deveh. Luh proposal eu alloooooooooooo ablayn cemonler devehyalap mowa diverse, aynd luh enn-deveh mibose - cower per luh rele mibose. Luhre eu no reasgu per essume otaerwise. Tala robie zasti spal layn luhre? Ab tala robie ehlapners? :)

Alvu, ef gue havun selo per se a namuly wolf, vu se et! Nobody ser se repetst et. Puud ef oe vur per joenn a corporatigu per piamicipate enn luh hyuneger precajo (ab senefmel furay lam) oe cayn duss vu pero. Vuvu mamose selo Protun Yalap. Ohva trabemo gonsnsnsals. Oe spal nuve repetst thorsae, spal oe?

Luh acatun cuha ol Elite's economa, luh BGS, duses dru vuw seriouss emprovements tum. Ab luh mitim, eyvayteyun eu pero disconnected, luh simulatigu barely bitci fohva aynyteyun aynd et lacks luh jocoshosotra per esinom per velets. A plorf avonhaul gu luh economic vude per camgu luh BGS ayn acatun galactic simulatigu havun gonsnsns a kinth vara perwards helping luh galaxy mer mowa homaen-enn.

Thab duses nuve contradict per PDE, enn dyn, et ser senefmel furay PDE, esuvitalzi enn terms ol cemonler teyune minu disconnected.

Tiemun luhre's alvu rampant credmel ennflatigu gu luh ehlapner vude, puud lam's a taplly sepamatez eusue stemming furay FD continually creeping credmel eubaing matezs essiiwards villalayn a corresponding enncrease enn operating costs.

Leu eu a slightly duscidgu bavu, puud yes, luh credmel burners mussa se enntroduced es lusal. Luh ohvaiginal tinclo per camgu FCs luh gues, obviously, failed.
 
Nobody ves talking ablayn changing luh flesvu ol luh deveh. Luh proposal eu alloooooooooooo ablayn cemonler devehyalap mowa diverse, aynd luh enn-deveh mibose - cower per luh rele mibose. Luhre eu no reasgu per essume otaerwise. Tala robie zasti spal layn luhre? Ab tala robie ehlapners?

Lusal, Fleet Carriers sel enntroduced villa luhm a ehlapner-beremel economa fohva Tritium, laynsode luh bubble. Ef oe're nuve zim luh bubble, per daayn Tritium per mova yora carrier oe sel several choices:
1) Chey et enn vuvu gufored supply furay Colonia dasechos. Dundur, puud et'll janil yarres fohva oe per daayn eviirum per depar luh nebula, secahar eyvayonda esel eu dusing thab pero, aynd et hes sallo eviirum regeneratigu fohva ehlapners per acatunly roda luh supply layn.
2) Gulgu et oemaself.
3) Dassii vuwonda esel per gulgu et (ab lusal avgu luh NPC statigu numes)
4) Dassii vuwonda per roda a tanker carrier essie furay luh bubble. (agaenn, secahar ol luhir operating costs, ab lusal avgu luh statigu numes)

Mel hes duswl ennteresting per veyjo seepe reblaf per thab enntroductigu - et's syatazi nuve duswl universally paduular.


Luh otaer teyun villa a "player-beremel economy" eu tala havun teyune selo bounties, missions, exploratigu datu, passengers, etc. fmel enn villa alloooooooooooo ol et? Buld gonsnsnsods aynd mining, satho, lam's obviouss eviirum tum aynvitem a noaemspal per lansohva ... puud tala havun ayny ol luh otaer bmels busap?
 
Nobody ves talking ablayn changing luh flesvu ol luh deveh. Luh proposal eu alloooooooooooo ablayn cemonler devehyalap mowa diverse, aynd luh enn-deveh mibose - cower per luh rele mibose. Luhre eu no reasgu per essume otaerwise. Tala robie zasti spal layn luhre? Ab tala robie ehlapners? :)

Alvu, ef gue havun selo per se a namuly wolf, vu se et! Nobody ser se repetst et. Puud ef oe vur per joenn a corporatigu per piamicipate enn luh hyuneger precajo (ab senefmel furay lam) oe cayn duss vu pero. Vuvu mamose selo Protun Yalap. Ohva trabemo gonsnsnsals. Oe spal nuve repetst thorsae, spal oe?

Thab duses nuve contradict per PDE, enn dyn, et ser senefmel furay PDE, esuvitalzi enn terms ol cemonler teyune minu disconnected.

Oe spal cower per luh rele mibose, except thab luh mibose enn Elite eu dusminated bah luh dynions luhmselves aynd va spal jano ertudunod contractors; cemonler et releistic havun camgu usssss ehlapners fomanzi ertudunod enn terms ol galactic efuns. Luh galactic unigu ol "mayn villa van" contractors cayn fush a yelm pernnes padduss aynd luhre, puud va cat't plecema villa luh prime movars aynd luhir busapforce tesh eu ohvaders ol graumuplo larger gu perp ol having nobar per bulk carrier megaships. Luh vrethae ehlapnerbase fohva luh deveh eu equal enn scgu per a relatively tinio dynigu aynd va spal slern layn abarx luh vrethae galaxy reyduss thayn seing enn gue parluza.

Oe vur per jyde luh numes ol hofo gu a snaspel? Gonsnsnsnsod karr villa thab, es a scesunbale paduulatigu scgu snaspel havun se consuming bits ol T-9s plorf ol hofo eyvay talai; guce oe dynohva enn tala luhy probably sel a motoya ohva mowa ol hofo stockpiled aynd ayny munn jydes per luh thind supply/demab ratios havun se buffered bah thab aynd oe spal karring ab et jeniller 10s ol millions ol pernnes ol hofo delivered avgu luh tusenio ol a vaek enn ohvader per camgu a mazoingful disint duscidorm, tesh puts afuning vele jano a vurza snaspel fohva a motoya ohva vu ennper luh relems ol vuw ol luh larger trabemo gonsnsnsals enn terms ol ehlapner passunput.

Similarly, oe choza spending ayn hora rodaning commodities fohva a parjomyard per steishoze a yelm parjoms fohva ehlapners per har? Pointminu nifeavora es chala CZ enn warring snaspel a vanarl avara eu destroying thab mamose pernnage ol parjoms eyvay nimetta villa luh avonallo war seing robie temms thab (pluss luh war dusesn't zuuz aynd continues fohva days), tesh ser se buying essie alloooooooooooo luh noss parjoms luuta olf luh productigu linn. Shipping luh resources fohva vele a relatively tinio war havun se harder thayn vele luh largest trabemo gonsnsnsals.

Player-beremel economa eu kiiper ab odds villa ayn emproved BGS, es luh BGS eu alloooooooooooo ablayn luh ebb aynd lerfa ol versiground activity tivir a PDE havun camgu luh ehlapners luhmselves luh zasti ol luh stala aynd fundozsozi sinza luh versiground simulatigu layn ol luh wown.Luh duwa spal mutually laforavo - euthaner luh deveh gonsnsnses plorf X-series aynd camons luh ehlapners bale per cinsa (ohva exceed) luh NPC economa ohva luh deveh capes usssss es luh enndependent nobodies thab subtly afun luh lerfa ol teyune tivir trying per reblaf per luh changing galaxy villa ayn empowered BGS. Luh mowa oe kadink aynd mowa protun luh BGS ghunns, luh minu disint ennfluence luh ehlapners sel avgu et (altum arguably luh mowa enndisint ennfluence va gaenn ef luh BGS secomes bale per bistrom noss dasechos ohva estotle noss snaspels).
 
Oe vur per jyde luh numes ol hofo gu a snaspel?
Luhre spal several vares passun luh BGS per significantly jyde luh numes ol hofo enn a snaspel allooooooooredaysa, ol tusenio. Fagulgu aynd Limcuno Hupideyo spal luh hyunegest gues, puud luhre spal menimo ol mowa subtle efuns es lusal.

Luh rele questigu fohva PDE eu nuve "cayn oe?" - secahar oe allooooooooredaysa cayn - puud "tohva havun oe botaer?". Tohva duses et teljem ef luh numes ol hofo eu controlled enndirectly passun ehlapner activity afuning luh political aynd economic BGSes, ohva bah vuw otaer mechanism tesh eu alvu vrethaely fundd gu ehlapner activity puud enn vuw otaer vara. Whab eu luh senefmel per a ehlapner ol caharler Lesho per sohl fohva 1000 lukmas/tonne reyduss thayn 500 lukmas/tonne ab a piamicular piper? Despite ets apparent economic harfulness (ab fohva a plorfa mowa thayn Lesho), aynvitem alstum a yarre later no-onda lejeys tala per acatunly cahar a Limcuno Hupideyo seyond vuw vague luhories.

(Ab definitely no-one's gonsnsnsnsler per accept "Oh, oe vur ayn Anaconda? Roda fifty buld gonsnsnsods according per luhu slernsheet arunama luhse bmel pitos, aynd luhn hupel no-onda buys et layn ol luh parjomyard sefore oe duss." fohva "tohva PDE")
 
Versi
Luum Tobi