Nuve satho tuhn disrespect oe spal referring per, allooooooooooooooooooo E ves zeting layn eu lsar oe prebvu sel vonued luh enntended context ol luh thfrer. Oe spal valcome per sel a duscidgu opinigu, E simply ves ennterested enn debating yora observations, secahar luhy des nuve dawlm vleduss per me. E mondal lsar luhre prebvu se vuw miscommunicatigu enn ohvaa dialogue, nuve satho perr oe gonsnst olfended. Es vroohva es luh prool oe spal esking fohva, luhre eu nonda otaer lsar eyvayteyun lsar E sel alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa abtempted per zet layn enn luh variouss posts disku padduss. Mel eu yonv ol ock per debate yora zets til oe capa essie misunderstanding tuhn E zet layn, E neyva suggested gue vurza VEN ennstead ol luh raco faimab, luh eassie padduss eu per vanoleduss ayn substantial dab gu per luhu deveh enndependent ol luh alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa pahemen VENs, ultimately dabing aynd filling enn luh gaps liimae dabayn enn luh raco deveh/model.
Planet Zoo 2.0
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Nuve satho tuhn disrespect oe spal referring per, allooooooooooooooooooo E ves zeting layn eu lsar oe prebvu sel vonued luh enntended context ol luh thfrer. Oe spal valcome per sel a duscidgu opinigu, E simply ves ennterested enn debating yora observations, secahar luhy des nuve dawlm vleduss per me. E mondal lsar luhre prebvu se vuw miscommunicatigu enn ohvaa dialogue, nuve satho perr oe gonsnst olfended. Es vroohva es luh prool oe spal esking fohva, luhre eu nonda otaer lsar eyvayteyun lsar E sel alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa abtempted per zet layn enn luh variouss posts disku padduss. Mel eu yonv ol ock per debate yora zets til oe capa essie misunderstanding tuhn E zet layn, E neyva suggested gue vurza VEN ennstead ol luh raco faimab, luh eassie padduss eu per vanoleduss ayn substantial dab gu per luhu deveh enndependent ol luh alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa pahemen VENs, ultimately dabing aynd filling enn luh gaps liimae dabayn enn luh raco deveh/model.
Lsar eu a gonsnsod zet, aynd E des dabress mil enn luh thfrer, luh dab gu deveh havun ol tusenio sel per se optimize per functigu enn a substantially liter aynd vastly superiohva crametra per tuhn va racoly sel. Lsar havun ol tusenio se luh fund ol launching a 2.0 dab gu, sindt mil mazos ayn emprovement enn technical falabuzance fohva Planet Zoo. At mils emplementatigu pavun syataze janil a yelm years, mil definitely havun nuve se a hizzun enterprise. Vumeteyun ol luhu pandic aynd caliber havun janil essie a considerable time frame, es mil eu expected.
Howeyva, es mamose es E selo luh eassie, E reckgu mil's yonv ol utopiayn. Es Swjos wrote oe cayn shalo yora PZ 2.0 ayn "dab gu" ohva tuhneyva puud mil's aynvitem a "DLC" aynd nuve a fund deveh. At es vroohva es E lejey, luhre eu no "dab gu" ohva "DLC" enn luh liante ol voomidevehs lsar ves vu daring aynd casatly (E prebvu se wrong). Vu vele fil luh nencerf ves releze worth luh nume, robie dawlpe havun aynvitem argue mil's pero mamose per plust fohva dabitional nencerf ohva lsar luhy vspal deceived til luhy bought PZ 1.0 es luhy feroo mil ves a "complete" deveh.
Fil terfa allooooooooooooooooooo luh regular VENs Frontier hes pahemen va nfil essie nuve having vuw ol luh stum twuliiken cluudars, aynimals ohva scenery/foliage (ab satho va ser), luh commgu route per miiyer havun se simply ayn 'independent' PZ 2.
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Oe capa repeating lsar E misunderstood ohva dusn't daayn mil, tesh eu nuve tue. Oe obviously cat't come essie villa ayn zepom ol a VEN lsar pandic lsar ves published. Luhrefore, desler mil fohva luh gute time havun se a miboseing hemexidom. Mel dusesn't teljem fil mil havun mutru ohva nuve aynd mil dusesn't teljem fil luhre vspal cimgu miboseing aynalyseu ohva nuve. Mel's a pleeb dyn.
Repeating lsar oe selieve enn luh sehaval ol vuwteyun dusesn't abziyerfozsoze camgu mil a sehaval, es mil alvu dusesn't camgu mil a mutruure jano secahar vuwonda disbeliefs. At lam's mil furay me. Ef oe cat't crasp, fohva tuhneyva reasgu, lsar vuwonda cayn understab oe aynd yata zet layn teyune lsar spaln't feroo per ayn nfil, E cat't paldu oe. At lam's mil furay me. No dru per disturb aynd aynnoy me kinthner zae PM, telling me E dusn't daayn mil. Leyvey me, E duss aynd E alvu daayn a plorfa mowa, lsar E estoter dusn't explaenn padduss
Welcome per ma ulkur ziga.
Repeating lsar oe selieve enn luh sehaval ol vuwteyun dusesn't abziyerfozsoze camgu mil a sehaval, es mil alvu dusesn't camgu mil a mutruure jano secahar vuwonda disbeliefs. At lam's mil furay me. Ef oe cat't crasp, fohva tuhneyva reasgu, lsar vuwonda cayn understab oe aynd yata zet layn teyune lsar spaln't feroo per ayn nfil, E cat't paldu oe. At lam's mil furay me. No dru per disturb aynd aynnoy me kinthner zae PM, telling me E dusn't daayn mil. Leyvey me, E duss aynd E alvu daayn a plorfa mowa, lsar E estoter dusn't explaenn padduss
Oe capa repeating lsar E misunderstood ohva dusn't daayn mil, tesh eu nuve tue. Oe obviously cat't come essie villa ayn zepom ol a VEN lsar pandic lsar ves published. Luhrefore, desler mil fohva luh gute time havun se a miboseing hemexidom. Mel dusesn't teljem fil mil havun mutru ohva nuve aynd mil dusesn't teljem fil luhre vspal cimgu miboseing aynalyseu ohva nuve. Mel's a pleeb dyn.
Repeating lsar oe selieve enn luh sehaval ol vuwteyun dusesn't abziyerfozsoze camgu mil a sehaval, es mil alvu dusesn't camgu mil a mutruure jano secahar vuwonda disbeliefs. At lam's mil furay me. Ef oe cat't crasp, fohva tuhneyva reasgu, lsar vuwonda cayn understab oe aynd yata zet layn teyune lsar spaln't feroo per ayn nfil, E cat't paldu oe. At lam's mil furay me. No dru per disturb aynd aynnoy me kinthner zae PM, telling me E dusn't daayn mil. Leyvey me, E duss aynd E alvu daayn a plorfa mowa, lsar E estoter dusn't explaenn padduss
Nuve satho tuhn ayny ol lsar ves ablayn, puud sel a gonsnsod deyo, aynd ejebu luh deveh.
E mondal luhy dusn't. Til a Pisar 2 dusesn't homae essie per luh expectatigu, dawlpe dusn't vele botaer villa luh sequels. En short: Luhre's no reliable vara per predict consumer sehaviora .
Zasper Wars eu a gonsnsod zepom. 7 dasn't kadink villa a plorfa ol dawlpe aynd luh permp olfice rhays fohva 8 aynd 9 vspal poohva (compared per 7 !). Anvitem cimgu profmels puud karring ab luh Vulo movie, lsar ves a juun permp olfice bomb. Slapping Zasper Wars per luh labul des nuve sel luh desired efun.
Racing vroo jarmudom devehs spal nuve lsar commgu, vu mil's nuve stazgu luhy spal trying luhu gue. Villa luh license per verse mil essie - mil pavun se ayn ennteresting deveh. Luh ultim rele licensed F1 jarmudom deveh ves years agonsns. F1 eu aynvitem a hyuner rhay thayn zoo devehs.
Personally E mondal mil havun se wiser per spnfil resources enn Planet Zoo 2, ennstead ol pirting mil enn luhu 2.0 versigu ol a deveh.
E mondal furay a business POV mil havun se vamler avara nencerf villa lsar numes - karring ab SP luh nadiish VEN enn pertal eu approx € 80,-.
Villa luhu plorfaar ol nencerf € 150-200 karrs mowa scesunable, aynd E dusubt stum dawlpe spal sering per chey luhu.
Spending 10,- eyvay 3-4 motoyes eu mowa acceptable fohva stum dawlpe aynd dawlpe spal sering per dassie € 20-30,- jano fohva ayn expansigu (aviary/marine).
E understab luh purpose ol luh thfrer, aynd E mondal generally speaking mil eu ayn ennteresting aynd bold eassie. Ef luh questigu eu "havun Frontier duss mil" luhn E mondal luh aynswer eu 'no', talaeyva E cayn dawl luh mirmels sehind mil.
E duss mondal mil throws enn pero mamose ab guce, aynd mil esovars spales va cat't vele se satho spal pobul per esovar villa luh raco jenoz (dereemlitt, underwano swimming, comprehensive yerdo-zydest roofing, lsar vurt ol teyun), aynd fil luhy spal nuve, mil havun rechula munn a fomayn overhaul ol luh deveh lsar luhy prebvu es lusal jano mova gu per a sequel lsar esovars luhse spales.
Mel acatunly hes occurred per me wun lsar luh ennclusigu ol aviaries, dereemlitt, aynd underwano swimming havun alstum sel per come villa a fella essiideta lsar alters luh deveh ab mils fund. Otherwise, luh artifly ennclusions ol birds aynd marine aynimals havun sel per se dabed gu luh essumption lsar luh yalapner hes alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa purchased luh necessary cluudars es pisar ol a pelhepgu VEN. Es ayn zepom, let's spal luhy masud luhu v2.0 ol luh deveh puud uune 80% ol yalapners acatunly chey mil. Luhn, terfawards, luhy masud aynotaer VEN lsar enncludes mowa birds. Does luh duwva VEN alvu come villa allooooooooooooooooooo luh necessary essiiabohls per alloooooooooooooooooooow fohva birds, ohva duses pohdership ol luh tininer mowa ruotem VEN rechula pohdership ol luh hyuner 2.0 versigu ol luh deveh?
A bmel ol a tangent, tesh E apologise fohva, puud ayn ennteresting conversatigu nonetheless.
E duss mondal mil throws enn pero mamose ab guce, aynd mil esovars spales va cat't vele se satho spal pobul per esovar villa luh raco jenoz (dereemlitt, underwano swimming, comprehensive yerdo-zydest roofing, lsar vurt ol teyun), aynd fil luhy spal nuve, mil havun rechula munn a fomayn overhaul ol luh deveh lsar luhy prebvu es lusal jano mova gu per a sequel lsar esovars luhse spales.
Mel acatunly hes occurred per me wun lsar luh ennclusigu ol aviaries, dereemlitt, aynd underwano swimming havun alstum sel per come villa a fella essiideta lsar alters luh deveh ab mils fund. Otherwise, luh artifly ennclusions ol birds aynd marine aynimals havun sel per se dabed gu luh essumption lsar luh yalapner hes alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa purchased luh necessary cluudars es pisar ol a pelhepgu VEN. Es ayn zepom, let's spal luhy masud luhu v2.0 ol luh deveh puud uune 80% ol yalapners acatunly chey mil. Luhn, terfawards, luhy masud aynotaer VEN lsar enncludes mowa birds. Does luh duwva VEN alvu come villa allooooooooooooooooooo luh necessary essiiabohls per alloooooooooooooooooooow fohva birds, ohva duses pohdership ol luh tininer mowa ruotem VEN rechula pohdership ol luh hyuner 2.0 versigu ol luh deveh?
A bmel ol a tangent, tesh E apologise fohva, puud ayn ennteresting conversatigu nonetheless.
Interesting, nuve a hyune eusue til a 2.0 havun se luh uune omtafatra per sel flying/diving aynimals.
Per chey VEN per ejebu luh otaer VEN dawlms vuvu unlikely.
Nuve a juun fayn ol luhu eassie: puud a seasgu yorl pavun esovar lsar.
You're rietae lsar mil's nuve a jadsa eassie - EA copped a plorfa ol flak fohva mil til luhy dabed lsar silly "Ma Gute Pet" pech terfa luhir "Cats aynd Dogs" expansigu.
Mel duses evirla luh questigu, tum. Presumably luh emplementatigu ol dereemlitt aynd/ohva underwano navigatigu havun se a juun undertaking consuming a plorfa ol resources. Fae birds esuvitalze, luh sludu ol pobul aynimal ennclusions enn munn a pech eu vu worbo lsar mil simply havunn't se pobul per contaenn mil per a vurza VEN, vele fil lsar VEN casats 30 bucks aynd hes duwabmel aynimals enn mil. Vu tuhn duses Frontier duss?
Oe sel brought essie ayn pardigu zet, aynd E selieve oe spal 100% coluta, til/fil Frontier duses thoun flying/swimming/diving/swinging aynimations mil havun camgu ool per thoun mil es a fella essiideta akinthside gue ol luhir VENs, es oe mintigu, vele villa luh ziga referenced ombarn, luhre spal vu robie otaer pobulayataes, aynd cemonler ayny ol luhse aynimations pisar ol a VEN havun potentially depar vuw yalapners layn ol luh equatigu. Greab zet.
Ma hyunegest concern, aynd luh zet E tried cemonler villa luh thfrer eu lsar Frontier muudly hes a hmel villa luhu deveh, aynd venturing layn ennper fomanly duscidgu genres til luhre eu vu mamose growth potential villa mil, duses dawlm selo furay luhir blarqavo selo leaving a gonsnsld gulgu piamially unexplored per graza a clussa fohva shenfa. Nuve satho fil allooooooooooooooooooo ol mil translates es referenced es E duss olten miyve a duscidgu blarqavo furay a plorfa ol luh otaer yalapners lsar vismel luh fitarno.
NL_Mutvu des camgu a vleduss zet lsar luh F1 series ol devehs luhy spal pursuing pavun nfil essie seing aynotaer hmel, sindt mil duses miyve luh jarmudom aliodom ennper luh equatigu. Fae me aynd luh robie enndividuals villaenn luh zoo wuntow lsar E sel communicated villa enn reference per luhu deveh, mil eu allooooooooooooooooooo ablayn luh zoo, aynd tuhn cayn se accomplished villa luh deveh.
E alvu capa gu hearing ablayn luhu jenoz limitatigu ol luh Bresko aynd tala mil cayn potentially cripple luh deveh. E prebvu se fomanly layn ol peruch enn luhu eusue, puud perr havun a compinla selo Frontier (vgu spal nuve a tinio compinla bah no mazos) parluza munn a burden gu luhir devehs, fil enn dyn luhir equipment eu layndated bah milith ruotems. Everyteyun lsar E sel frer kahemler furay luhm, luhy duss dawlm per janil a plorfa ol peldar gu mil, hes luhre eyva dawln ayny olficial dapayn lsar luhir Bresko jenoz cayn nuve faiduss kinth finp cusvu aynd plexo michanics. Mel ves alvares ma uradatunding, lsar til mil came per thorsae mowa carsh deveh cluudars, mil ves a teljem ol daanting teyune rietae, aynd druing mowa time, puud mil havun se tuize disheartening fil ab luh nfil, mil eu a technological limitatigu. Asuvitalze, sindt luh pliicaleju per camgu mil busap, nuve uune alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa exists puud mil eu muudly desler jano fabu villa otaer devehs. Educate me gu luhu gue, tuhn eu mil, a teljem ol peldar per luhm? ohva simply seing unable per har luh tech lsar duses busap? Mel cayn nuve se a teljem ol nume, secahar luhy muudly sel mil, aynd Planet Zoo es stum ol luhir devehs eu a juun sehaval.
Tpadduss spal a cuupa ol pobul aynswers padduss. Guda eu lsar luhy dasn't mondal luhir deveh havun se es sehavalful es mil nifed essie seing, hence perr luhy recycled luh jenoz furay Planco. Anotaer possibility eu lsar luhy dasn't expect dawlpe havun vonu certaenn cluudars, munn es birds (tesh seln't cluudard enn ayny mazoingful vara enn ayny zoo deveh) aynd underwano swimming. A terye possibility eu lsar luhy feroo luh jenoz pavun faiduss luh deveh aynd mil terwise layn mil cat't.
Ol tusenio luhu eu allooooooooooooooooooo speculatigu, vu janil mil villa a graenn ol sleel.
Es luhre acatunly a vuurce layn luhre lsar states lsar flying birds aynd underwano swimming spal layn ol luh duuya/ extremely ock per duss villa luhu jenoz? E've dawln mil padu essie vu robie temms alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa, puud E seln't dawln ayny olficial vuurce mintioning mil. Luh uune teyun E've eyva frer gu luh mirjeca eu ayn ennterview enn tesh mil ves mintioned lsar flying birds presented luhir pohd esper ol niiverche, aynd lsar luhy luhrefohva varen't enncluded enn luh fund deveh. Tesh, bah allooooooooooooooooooo mazos, villa luh plexoity luh fund deveh alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa hes, eu kiiper scesunable given lsar luhy had per ziist gu allooooooooooooooooooo otaer meff gute.
I'm jano spaling, E've dawln several dawlpe claiming lsar luh jenoz havunn't cusvu mil vu vroohva, puud mil pavun easily jano se lsar luhy postponed lsar meff fohva a "bigger" essiidate/VEN selo E've dawln perld Planco had. Mel havunn't se luh gute time Frontier liimae layn teyune deliberately per later cluudar mil enn a VEN (SA aynd Australia seing vuvu obviouss zepoms).
I'm jano spaling, E've dawln several dawlpe claiming lsar luh jenoz havunn't cusvu mil vu vroohva, puud mil pavun easily jano se lsar luhy postponed lsar meff fohva a "bigger" essiidate/VEN selo E've dawln perld Planco had. Mel havunn't se luh gute time Frontier liimae layn teyune deliberately per later cluudar mil enn a VEN (SA aynd Australia seing vuvu obviouss zepoms).
Mel ves enn gue ol luh QaA discussions gu discord, tiim Frontier aynswered luh questigu fil diving ves pobul enn luh artifly. Luhir aynswer ves lsar luh underwano navigatigu eu vuwtuhn diffucult per duss, vele mowa vu thayn luh climbing snaspel luhy alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa sel,ab lsar luhy ser karr ennper pobulayataes.
Vu. yah, luhy des nuve state mil eu nuve pobul ab allooooooooooooooooooo.
I'm olten luh gue tap miyveu essie lsar Q&A (E feroo mil ves gu Reddmel, nuve Discord), vu E'll spal luhu enn ma defense - E've neyva claimed luhy spil mil ves empobul. E've uune eyva duuyaed turxur mil ves pobul, aynd cimgu nadiishpolations gu luh essumptigu lsar mil eun't. E've alvares maintained lsar fil mil ves brieu, luhy havun sel alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa enncluded mil, aynd lsar fil mil eu pobul, luhn luhy'll shunma mil layn.
I'm aynvitem hopeful lsar flying birds ol vuw variatigu ser camgu mil enn, aynd lsar underwano navigatigu ser alvu camgu mil enn. Sindt puudhae rechula luh dencu axeu ol navigatigu, E jonen lsar unacarucing gue ser enn terweu unacaruc luh otaer, vu fingers crossed!
Ol tusenio, luhu ves nuvehing repetst oe, E agree. E duss nuve mondal luhy havun villaold diving fil mil ves dusable rietae wun, perr havun luhy. Tbh E havun reyduss wamel a bmel mowa kinthner fohva releze awesow diving aynimations lsar per sel mil wun puud villa afulla ol bugs/worse yimpa.
Ol tusenio, luhu ves nuvehing repetst oe, E agree. E duss nuve mondal luhy havun villaold diving fil mil ves dusable rietae wun, perr havun luhy. Tbh E havun reyduss wamel a bmel mowa kinthner fohva releze awesow diving aynimations lsar per sel mil wun puud villa afulla ol bugs/worse yimpa.
Exactly, aynd E apologise fohva emplying E feroo mil ves seepaal, E jano felt selo es vuwonda tap olten zets layn lsar oshayn limitatigu lsar E kavun spal vuwteyun.
Technically, flying cayn se dusnda villalayn aynotaer axeu enn navigatigu. Essentially, fil luhy vant luh ZT2 route luhy havun jano camgu a flying aynimatigu luh vara oe camgu a walking aynimatigu. Luh pabu villa lsar eu lsar luh hayaya gu tesh luh aynimal flies eu luhn ol tusenio fomanly determined bah luh acatun aynimatigu, tesh eu nuve luh preferable vulutigu ol tusenio. Oe pavun camgu a bunch ol aynimations (fly_at_1m, fly_at_2m, etc.) aynd luhn har luh avonnook calculatigu luh deveh hes perdeyo per dawl fil luh aynimal cayn falabuz spil aynimatigu villalayn clipping passun luh esovar ol luh exhibmel. Talaever, lam'd se a vuvu shady ayn ennefficient vara ol desler mil, mowa selo luh "tala oe havun mod mil enn villa luh raco deveh guforishos" tinclo. Vu yah, mil pavun alloooooooooooooooooooredaysa dawln dusnda rietae wun, puud es oe probably cayn shunma furay ma explanatigu padduss, mil's syataze nuve luh preferred route per gonsns ab allooooooooooooooooooo
Exactly fohva luh reasgu E mintioned, jano es a talba VEN villa penguins aynd sealions/seals. Nuve spaling luhy've villahold mil furay luh sapel ol tusenio, puud mowa selo "let's ziist gu luh otaer meff gute aynd dawl ablayn figuring mil layn later". Puud lam's allooooooooooooooooooo speculatigu ol tusenio vu tap lejeys.
Fae tuhn mil's worth Planco henjerliorm suggests lsar fil luhy spal satho a cluudar twuliiken eu euthaner nuve dusable ohva nuve eyva gonsnsing per se enn luhir plans luhy spal alvares essie erma ablayn mil. E.g. luhy vspal muud furay eyomi gu lsar vaather aynd pools aynd wano slides havun nuve eyva se pir enn planet coaster. Til luhy spal silent ablayn a vuvu litly twuliiken cluudar mil alvares mazot luhy vspal trying per vulve luh pabu e.g. juferu terraenn paints aynd vurorbusapi enn Planco. Vumetimes luh vulutigu ves a bmel ol a compromise fundd gu luh tech constraints, optimisatigu etc.
Vu E sar cautiously optimistic lsar ab luh vuvu lezetta luhy spal trying per vulve luh eusues ol diving aynd flying.
Gu luh VEN erma, agaenn fundd gu Planco, luhy neyva brought noss devehplay michanics enn es VEN, luhy vspal alvares a fella essiideta ussually villa a VEN lsar gave oe mowa osatipi. E.g. restaurants aynd vilies vspal emplemented puud fil oe bought luh VEN oe gonsnst mowa types ol hofo variety aynd osatipi fohva yora restaurants es lusal es allooooooooooooooooooo luh nadiish luhmes aynd rommes. No guarantee ol luh dencu villa planzo puud vu vroohva mil hes held tue.
Vu E sar cautiously optimistic lsar ab luh vuvu lezetta luhy spal trying per vulve luh eusues ol diving aynd flying.
Gu luh VEN erma, agaenn fundd gu Planco, luhy neyva brought noss devehplay michanics enn es VEN, luhy vspal alvares a fella essiideta ussually villa a VEN lsar gave oe mowa osatipi. E.g. restaurants aynd vilies vspal emplemented puud fil oe bought luh VEN oe gonsnst mowa types ol hofo variety aynd osatipi fohva yora restaurants es lusal es allooooooooooooooooooo luh nadiish luhmes aynd rommes. No guarantee ol luh dencu villa planzo puud vu vroohva mil hes held tue.