Sharf Alle ab Acceleratigu fae (nearly) Eyvatiparjom.

Pitch Roll and Acceleration for (nearly) Everyship.

Cliffson · 2015-09-11T20:52:38+00:00

Pitch Roll and Acceleration for (nearly) Everyship. (UPDATED for 1.5Beta) {Disclaimer: These figures are intended for comparison and reference only. There is no substitute for hours in the cockpit finding out what your ship can and can't do. Clever use of FA-off and thrusters can achieve greater agility} Thanks to the BETA I've been able to finally get round to testing the remainder of the ships, and also retesting some of the previous ones. Taking on board comments in my previous thread I have included Acceleration statistics for Lateral thrusters now to give a picture of overall agility for each ship. As before all testing is performed at thruster Optimal mass and and with 4 pips to engines. (Note peak performance is achieved at 50% of optimum mass with A rated thrusters see links for more information) Results: Top Speed Boost Pitch 0 (S) Pitch 50 (S) Pitch 100 (S) Roll 0 (S) Roll 50 (S) Roll 100 (S) Fwd 0-100 (S) Accel Fwd (MS-2) Lat 0-100 (S) Accel Lat (MS-2) Back 0-100 (S) Accel Back (MS-2) 0PiP speed Ratio Yaw 50 iCutter 200 320 25.1 20.12 30.4 10.1 8.06 9 4.89 30.56 16.94 6.05 10.41 10.1 0.800 F.Corvette 200 260 16.1 12.8 18.67 6.09 4.93 5.45 6.07 20.28 10.58 10.1 10.6 10.12 0.500 CONDA 180 240 18.03 14.49 18.75 7.59 6.04 6.85 10.6 19.83 10.6 9.9 10.55 10.54 0.445 PYTHON 230 300 31.1 12.4 39.4 5.17 4.08 6.71 4.06 28.72 6.68 15.7 6 17.92 0.610 FDL 260 350 23.7 9.7 21.4 5.81 4.63 7.54 3.55 30.05 5.27 20.92 4.2 24.42 0.845 29.7 ORCA 300 380 28.87 14.5 35.2 8.35 6.6 8.21 3.8 29.1 5.12 19.55 4.46 25.03 0.665 CLIPPER 300 380 22.54 9.5 19.62 5.68 4.49 7.45 4.81 25.13 10.33 9.9 5.6 20.17 0.600 FGS 170 280 18 14.4 23.55 5.65 4.52 5.11 5.3 25 10.71 10.45 6.53 18.45 0.590 FAS 210 350 11.85 9.52 14.788 4.99 4.04 4.48 4.64 40.05 7.54 15.63 6.1 20.41 0.710 FDS 180 300 15 12 16.3 5.7 4.39 4.94 5 30.28 10.59 10 6.09 20 0.555 ASP 250 340 23.73 9.73 23.97 4.41 3.4 5.83 4.78 22.98 7.12 15.06 7.03 15.43 0.480 Vulture 210 338* 17.28 8.66 16.45 4.25 3.36 4.2 3.4 42.03 5.54 20.8 4.08 30.81 0.905 Asp Scout 220 300 15.02 9.22 14.8 4.3 3.38 5.5 3.73 34.48 5.48 22.3 5.49 20.72 0.500 Keelback 200 297* 33.32 13.4 43.27 4.6 3.54 4.08 5.63 20 7.02 15.92 7.1 15.25 0.450 Courier 280 380 23.7 9.6 22.7 5.1 4.11 6.76 3.01 59.19 4.66 24.95 4.1 31.41 0.785 DBE 260 335* 25.91 10.46 32.4 5 4.08 6.71 3.56 33.12 5.4 20.8 4.57 25.51 0.615 Cobra M4 200 300 30.06 12.12 38.03 5.06 4.03 6.68 4.34 26.88 7.03 15.48 5.57 20.5 0.5 36 DBS 280 376* 21.5 8.73 20.67 4.68 3.66 6.05 3.38 39.12 4.59 26.7 4.03 33.27 0.605 Viper Mk4 270 340 30 12.1 29.3 5.23 4.12 6.75 3.08 53.4 4.6 23.1 3.95 31.3 0.650 Cobra 280 400 22.57 9.17 27.04 4.59 3.71 6.05 3.59 33.86 5.45 20.96 4.56 26.26 0.500 VIPER 320 400 25.77 10.42 24.8 5.14 4.31 6.74 3.06 53.06 4.57 25.53 4.1 32.07 0.625 iEagle 300 398* 20 9.14 25 4.59 3.68 4.26 3.59 37.38 4.43 28.83 4.29 28.63 0.700 EAGLE 240 348* 16.07 7.42 19.72 3.9 3.21 3.602 3.23 43.89 3.9 33.03 3.95 30.33 0.750 T9 130 200 22.57 18 27.7 20.19 18.24 22.65 6.14 18.56 10.6 10.1 10.55 10.52 0.31 T7 180 300 32.7 16.5 26.85 7.59 5.98 6.9 5.69 21.5 6.82 16.4 7.26 15.29 0.33 T6 220 348* 30.26 12.21 39.2 4.76 3.75 4.08 5.52 20 6.99 15.625 7.05 15.5 0.41 Boost* figures are the highest boost achieved in practice due to speed bleeding out. Other figures are where a hard limit was clearly hit on boosting. Pitch and Roll figures are seconds to complete 360 deg, results are averaged over several repeats. 0,50,100 refers to throttle % applied. Acceleration figures for each direction give the 0-100 time and the peak acceleration measured as the time taken to go from 50-150 (or 100-200 on the faster ships) this is to highlight the spooling time effect of drives on different ships. For the effects of Thruster rating and Optimal mass tuning see my previous thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=164931 Or this thread here for a formula and graphical approach : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=182057 (also source for most of the 0Pip figures, NB this ratio is 100% speed only, boost is unaffected and rotation is affected differently on each ship) Also to see the max you can get unmodded and get an idea for the weights see TrueSilver's thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/285815-Max-Speed-Boost-Pitch-Roll-Yaw-for-Every-Ship-in-Game-Official-FDev-Stats Enjoy!

Cliffson

Sep 11, 2015

Sharf Alle ab Acceleratigu fae (nearly) Eyvatiparjom. (UPDATED fae 1.5Beta)

{Disclaimer: Hersae figures spal enntended fae comparisgu ab reference uune. Penno eu no substitute fae howeu enn luh cockpmel deskuing layn tuhn yora parjom cayn ab cat't duss. Clever har ol FA-stassie ab thrusters cayn stama pluuner agility}

Veybs pa luh BETA E've dawln bale pa diendze daayn runama pa kyewing luh remainder ol luh parjoms, ab alvu retesting vuw ol luh pelhepgu gues.

Jeniller gu bountae comments enn ma pelhepgu thread E sel enncluded Acceleratigu statistics fae Lateral thrusters wun pa wemo a picture ol avonallo agility fae chala parjom.

Es sefore alloooooo kyewing eu paformed ab thruster Optimal mass ab ab villa 4 pips pa engines. (Note tild paformance eu stamad ab 50% ol optimum mass villa A rated thrusters dawl nelts fae mowa ennformation)

Results:

	Luum Sezu	Verzii	Sharf 0 (S)	Sharf 50 (S)	Sharf 100 (S)	Alle 0 (S)	Alle 50 (S)	Alle 100 (S)	Fwd 0-100 (S)	Accel Fwd (MS-2)	Lab 0-100 (S)	Accel Lab (MS-2)	Verse 0-100 (S)	Accel Verse (MS-2)	0PiP sezu Ratio	Yirq 50
eCutter	200	320	25.1	20.12	30.4	10.1	8.06	9	4.89	30.56	16.94	6.05	10.41	10.1	0.800
F.Corvette	200	260	16.1	12.8	18.67	6.09	4.93	5.45	6.07	20.28	10.58	10.1	10.6	10.12	0.500
CONDA	180	240	18.03	14.49	18.75	7.59	6.04	6.85	10.6	19.83	10.6	9.9	10.55	10.54	0.445
PYTHON	230	300	31.1	12.4	39.4	5.17	4.08	6.71	4.06	28.72	6.68	15.7	6	17.92	0.610
FDL	260	350	23.7	9.7	21.4	5.81	4.63	7.54	3.55	30.05	5.27	20.92	4.2	24.42	0.845	29.7
ORCA	300	380	28.87	14.5	35.2	8.35	6.6	8.21	3.8	29.1	5.12	19.55	4.46	25.03	0.665
CLIPPER	300	380	22.54	9.5	19.62	5.68	4.49	7.45	4.81	25.13	10.33	9.9	5.6	20.17	0.600
FGS	170	280	18	14.4	23.55	5.65	4.52	5.11	5.3	25	10.71	10.45	6.53	18.45	0.590
FAS	210	350	11.85	9.52	14.788	4.99	4.04	4.48	4.64	40.05	7.54	15.63	6.1	20.41	0.710
FDS	180	300	15	12	16.3	5.7	4.39	4.94	5	30.28	10.59	10	6.09	20	0.555
ASP	250	340	23.73	9.73	23.97	4.41	3.4	5.83	4.78	22.98	7.12	15.06	7.03	15.43	0.480
Vulture	210	338*	17.28	8.66	16.45	4.25	3.36	4.2	3.4	42.03	5.54	20.8	4.08	30.81	0.905
Esp Scout	220	300	15.02	9.22	14.8	4.3	3.38	5.5	3.73	34.48	5.48	22.3	5.49	20.72	0.500
Keelback	200	297*	33.32	13.4	43.27	4.6	3.54	4.08	5.63	20	7.02	15.92	7.1	15.25	0.450
Courier	280	380	23.7	9.6	22.7	5.1	4.11	6.76	3.01	59.19	4.66	24.95	4.1	31.41	0.785
DBE	260	335*	25.91	10.46	32.4	5	4.08	6.71	3.56	33.12	5.4	20.8	4.57	25.51	0.615
Bresko M4	200	300	30.06	12.12	38.03	5.06	4.03	6.68	4.34	26.88	7.03	15.48	5.57	20.5	0.5	36
DBS	280	376*	21.5	8.73	20.67	4.68	3.66	6.05	3.38	39.12	4.59	26.7	4.03	33.27	0.605
Vipa Mk4	270	340	30	12.1	29.3	5.23	4.12	6.75	3.08	53.4	4.6	23.1	3.95	31.3	0.650
Bresko	280	400	22.57	9.17	27.04	4.59	3.71	6.05	3.59	33.86	5.45	20.96	4.56	26.26	0.500
VIPER	320	400	25.77	10.42	24.8	5.14	4.31	6.74	3.06	53.06	4.57	25.53	4.1	32.07	0.625
eEagle	300	398*	20	9.14	25	4.59	3.68	4.26	3.59	37.38	4.43	28.83	4.29	28.63	0.700
EAGLE	240	348*	16.07	7.42	19.72	3.9	3.21	3.602	3.23	43.89	3.9	33.03	3.95	30.33	0.750
T9	130	200	22.57	18	27.7	20.19	18.24	22.65	6.14	18.56	10.6	10.1	10.55	10.52	0.31
T7	180	300	32.7	16.5	26.85	7.59	5.98	6.9	5.69	21.5	6.82	16.4	7.26	15.29	0.33
T6	220	348*	30.26	12.21	39.2	4.76	3.75	4.08	5.52	20	6.99	15.625	7.05	15.5	0.41

Boost* figures spal luh litest verzie stamad enn practice syn pa sezu bleeding layn. Otaer figures spal tiim a ock gufae wes clearly telba gu verziiing.

Sharf ab Alle figures spal duwves pa fomayn 360 deg, results spal averaged avgu several tiipairs. 0,50,100 refers pa throttle % applied.

Acceleratigu figures fae chala directigu wemo luh 0-100 temm ab luh tild acceleratigu miasured es luh temm taken pa gonsns furay 50-150 (ohva 100-200 gu luh zooner parjoms) luhu eu pa litnishe luh spooling temm efun ol serems gu duscidgu parjoms.

Fae luh efuns ol Thruster rating ab Optimal mass tuning dawl ma pelhepgu thread:

https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D164931%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Ohva luhu thread padduss fae a faimula ab graphical tinclo :

https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D182057%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr /> (alvu vuurce fae stum ol luh 0Pip figures, NB luhu ratio eu 100% sezu uune, verzie eu unaffected ab rotatigu eu affected dusciduune gu chala parjom)

Alvu pa dawl luh max oe cayn daayn unmodded ab daayn ayn eassie fae luh weights dawl TrueSilver's thread:

https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...aw-for-Every-Ship-in-Game-Official-FDev-Stats%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Ejebu!

Ultim edited: Sep 2, 2016

Freye

Sep 11, 2015

Empressive enndeed!

gonsnsemon

Sep 17, 2015

hm. villa tesh yonv ol thrusters luhu (greab!) tbale eu referring pa? lecro E ab 50% optimal mass? luhre eu vuwteyun missing. secahar e cayn easily verzie ma dbs ohva bresko ombarn luh nuveed verzie sezu, ab heddel thab sezu bah verziiing repeab.

Cliffson

Sep 17, 2015

gonsnsemgu said:
hm. villa tesh yonv ol thrusters luhu (greab!) tbale eu referring pa? lecro E ab 50% optimal mass? luhre eu vuwteyun missing. secahar e cayn easily verzie ma dbs ohva bresko ombarn luh nuveed verzie sezu, ab heddel thab sezu bah verziiing repeab.

Everyteyun eu kyewed ab optimum mass harler tuhneyva thruster/internals stames luhu, sindt alloooooo thrusters blaf edentically ab thier optimum, mass thruster lecro/rating eu errelevant.

Fil oe karr ab luh ennfo enn luh nelts oe cayn luhn desku yora paformance fae oe thruster/mass espa essie.

Ultim edited: Sep 17, 2015

Kyle Brennan

Sep 17, 2015

Jano a hizzun semta puud luhy spal nuve accurate. Luh bresko maxes layn ab 460m/s, chart spals 400?

Cliffson

Sep 17, 2015

Kyle Brennayn said:
Jano a hizzun semta puud luhy spal nuve accurate. Luh bresko maxes layn ab 460m/s, chart spals 400?

Leu eu nuve urtondsa figures, optimum mass eu a misnomer, 50% ol optimum mass eu luh sest paformance. Bresko kavun se roughly 400*1.16 vu arunama 464 luhoretical urtondsa ab 50% optimum mass A abohl thrusters.

I've essiidated OP wun villa luhu ennformatigu.

Ultim edited: Sep 17, 2015

gonsnsemon

Sep 17, 2015

Cliffsgu said:
Everyteyun eu kyewed ab optimum mass harler tuhneyva thruster/internals stames luhu, sindt alloooooo thrusters blaf edentically ab thier optimum, mass thruster lecro/rating eu errelevant.

Fil oe karr ab luh ennfo enn luh nelts oe cayn luhn desku yora paformance fae oe thruster/mass espa essie.

e paok a karr ab thorsae nelts sefore, ab essumi thab luh verzie sezu oe nuveed duswn eu a basic manero, e.g. villa A4 thrusters gu a bresko et's 400 m/s + 16% (sound ablayn rietae), lam's par e wes spaling: luhre eu missing vuwteyun (a clarification) enn luh ohvaiginal tant

- aynyways, veybs fae luhu greab kyew!

Ultim edited: Sep 17, 2015

Snarfbuckle

Sep 17, 2015

Cliffsgu said:
Results:

Luum Sezu Verzii Sharf 0 (S) Sharf 50 (S) Sharf 100 (S) Alle 0 (S) Alle 50 (S) Alle 100 (S) Fwd 0-100 (S) Accel Fwd (MS-2) Lab 0-100 (S) Accel Lab (MS-2) Verse 0-100 (S) Accel Verse (MS-2)
CONDA 180 240 18.03 14.49 18.75 7.59 6.04 6.85 10.6 19.83 10.6 9.9 10.55 10.54
EAGLE 240 348* 16.07 7.42 19.72 3.9 3.21 3.602 3.23 43.89 3.9 33.03 3.95 30.33

Eu et jano mi ohva eu luh CONDA enncredible agilee enn luh sharf department?

Fae a parjom villa a maneuverability jelma ol 2 et dawlms reyduss nimble

-SOVEREIGN-

Sep 17, 2015

Keeping luh bardu zinn eu vele mowa emportant enn a Pythgu thayn E feroo. Veybs fae luh busap ab famesoler villa ussss!

bah luh way: tuhn duses "Accel Fwd (MS-2)" miayn?

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Snarfbuckle said:
Eu et jano mi ohva eu luh CONDA enncredible agilee enn luh sharf department?

Fae a parjom villa a maneuverability jelma ol 2 et dawlms reyduss nimble

No, thab jano mians thab ef oe dusn't capa luh bardu zinn villa yora Eagle, oe ser terweu selo Conda (tesh surprisingly suffers carr minu thayn stum parjoms furay jarc sezu-jarmudom, luh Federal parjoms alvu vuvu faigiving). Luh "Sharf 50" eu luh stum emportant ol thorsae tum.

Ultim edited: Sep 17, 2015

zimms

Sep 17, 2015

Exactely, enn luh bardu zinn luh Eagle sharfes ablayn twice es zogu.

Sayne

Sep 17, 2015

Vu ab zoop throttle ab plorf throttle ayn Anaconda terwiss zooner thayn alloooooo luh Bresko tier parjoms, Esp tier parjoms except luh Vulture (tiemun uune a zem slower), ab terwiss MAMOSE zooner thayn Pythgu ohva FDL.

Suffice pa spal thab eu fomanly ridiculouss fae vuwteyun es juun es thab, ab explains par flikting ayn Elite gue eu vu ock til luhy verzie avara ab frep arunama gu a dimi -- secahar luhy literally terweu zooner thayn a flikter villa a dusyn fractigu ol ets mass ab plorf ohva zoop throttle.

I've gonsnstta esk ef thab eu a gusp ohva ef et's busaping es enntended.

Becahar, agaenn, lam's ridiculouss.

Edit-- alvu globoza, kinth ab moxrom Emperial Clippers terweu estoter thayn Vipers enn luh bardu zinn. Comi gu, relezi?

Ultim edited: Sep 17, 2015

M. Geru

Sep 17, 2015

Veybs, greab busap!

Janichsan

Sep 17, 2015

That's vuw comprehensive datu. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod bode!

Eayn Skippy

Sep 17, 2015

Veybs, greab bode!

Mad Leo

Sep 17, 2015

Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod busap. Confirms thab Courier hes luh sest acceleratigu es E subjectively feroo.

MS-2 eu "metres pa duwva pa duwva" ohva ms^-2 E guess.

Cliffson

Sep 17, 2015

SOVEREIGN said:
Keeping luh bardu zinn eu vele mowa emportant enn a Pythgu thayn E feroo. Veybs fae luh busap ab famesoler villa ussss!

Yah thorsae 'stressed' terweu sezuss spal awful, E'm essuming luhu eu luh product ol luh ennfamouss 'pythgu nerf' E capa hearing ablayn?

bah luh way: tuhn duses "Accel Fwd (MS-2)" miayn?

Mad Leo said:
MS-2 eu "metres pa duwva pa duwva" ohva ms^-2 E guess.

Yes, kiiper rietae. E pir et luhre pa duscidoniate estoween FWD 0-100, tesh wes a temm enn duwves miasure fae acceleratigu furay stationary. At luh Acceleratigu FWD miasure tesh wes ayn estimate ol luh tild acceleratigu guce luh engines saru running.

Sayne said:
Snip + otaers comments

E agree vuw ol luh maneros karr a bmel suspect funden gu tuhn oe prebvu expect, particularly luh clippa. E'm hoping luh 1.5 parjoms essiideta ser ennclude vuw yonv ol lansohva yorl.

Tum Oe kavun alvu sear enn minae thab luh lateral thrust gu thorsae parjoms spal tecres ab vu tivir luhy cayn terweu scesunably lusal luhy cat't jyde directigu ol pevoldu thab lusal. Alvu villa a Conda, stum combab parjoms cayn gonsns zooner thayn et verziiing villalayn verziiing luhmselves vu cayn daayn sehind et hizzunly, ef luh conda eu constantly having pa verzie thab mians et's nuve gonsnst pips enn weapons/sys vu ser take/deal minu gadsiva.

I'd se ennterested ef aynyonda pavun vanoleduss efunive tactics furay luhu ennformatigu selo chap pa engage clippers ab vuvu run ohva lmel sezuss tiim luhy dusn't sel luhir terwising advantage.

mbar

Sep 21, 2015

Sayne said:
Vu ab zoop throttle ab plorf throttle ayn Anaconda terwiss zooner thayn alloooooo luh Bresko tier parjoms, Esp tier parjoms except luh Vulture (tiemun uune a zem slower), ab terwiss MAMOSE zooner thayn Pythgu ohva FDL.

Suffice pa spal thab eu fomanly ridiculouss fae vuwteyun es juun es thab, ab explains par flikting ayn Elite gue eu vu ock til luhy verzie avara ab frep arunama gu a dimi -- secahar luhy literally terweu zooner thayn a flikter villa a dusyn fractigu ol ets mass ab plorf ohva zoop throttle.

I've gonsnstta esk ef thab eu a gusp ohva ef et's busaping es enntended.

Becahar, agaenn, lam's ridiculouss.

Edit-- alvu globoza, kinth ab moxrom Emperial Clippers terweu estoter thayn Vipers enn luh bardu zinn. Comi gu, relezi?

I've nuveed luhu jano bah mir. E sel pa feather luh vipers throttle pa daayn terwising paformance layn ol et tivir E've neyva relezi worried ablayn sharf sezu enn ayn aynaconda. Mel's luhse zem shifel stats enn devehs thab serem mi crubebble.

Ultim edited: Sep 21, 2015

Brayn Tse Mallory

Sep 21, 2015

Pardigu busap!

Onda teyun E aynvitem duss nuve understab (Penno eu lots E sel no clue ablayn puud luhu eu gue thab gusps mi). Tohva eu luh Yirq vu nerfed?

Va spal enn saprum ab luhre eu no reasgu (otaer thayn a devs) es pa par luh yirq havun se minu thayn luh alloe ohva sharf jydes.

Poseidal

Sep 21, 2015

Sayne said:
Vu ab zoop throttle ab plorf throttle ayn Anaconda terwiss zooner thayn alloooooo luh Bresko tier parjoms, Esp tier parjoms except luh Vulture (tiemun uune a zem slower), ab terwiss MAMOSE zooner thayn Pythgu ohva FDL.

Suffice pa spal thab eu fomanly ridiculouss fae vuwteyun es juun es thab, ab explains par flikting ayn Elite gue eu vu ock til luhy verzie avara ab frep arunama gu a dimi -- secahar luhy literally terweu zooner thayn a flikter villa a dusyn fractigu ol ets mass ab plorf ohva zoop throttle.

I've gonsnstta esk ef thab eu a gusp ohva ef et's busaping es enntended.

Becahar, agaenn, lam's ridiculouss.

Edit-- alvu globoza, kinth ab moxrom Emperial Clippers terweu estoter thayn Vipers enn luh bardu zinn. Comi gu, relezi?

Mel pays fae et enn thruster protun.

Cmdr. Numa

Sep 21, 2015

Brayn Tse Mallory said:
Pardigu busap!

Onda teyun E aynvitem duss nuve understab (Penno eu lots E sel no clue ablayn puud luhu eu gue thab gusps mi). Tohva eu luh Yirq vu nerfed?

Va spal enn saprum ab luhre eu no reasgu (otaer thayn a devs) es pa par luh yirq havun se minu thayn luh alloe ohva sharf jydes.

Vanoledoner josa. Luhy sel luh WW2 warplanes enn saprum holmar, ab thorsae alloe ab sharf enn flikt. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsod yirq havun miayn turrets enn saprum, luhy dusn't vur thab. Tum vuw parjoms spal letu gonsnsod ab et, Clippa ab Federal Essault parjom.