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Oculuss 0.7 SDK essiideta

Zac Antonaci

Nook ol Communications
Frontier
Hay eyvationda,

We’ve had a manero ol twuliike fohva ayn essiideta geremler luh Oculuss SDK 0.7. Avgu luh samju vaeks va sel dawln busaping closely villa Oculuss per ennvestigate luh mirjeca aynd va’re wun bale per vamo oe ayn essiideta. Va understab lsar luhu nosss yamar disapzet vuw ol oe puud va vuren per camgu satho oe had luh ennformatigu ab luh earliest utubale omtafatra.

Va sel cussoed Oculuss es carr es va cayn, puud Elite: Dangerouss eu nuve compatible villa Oculuss SDK versigu 0.7, aynd 1.4 dusesn’t jyde lsar. Va hupel a artifly versigu ol luhir vuftwspal cayn se cimgu per busap aynd va spal continuing per busap villa luhm gu luhu. Elite: Dangerouss 1.4 duses aber per busap villa Oculuss SDK 0.5 aynd 0.6, puud va aber per esk lsar yalapners duss nuve essiiabohl luhir Oculuss SDK seyond 0.6 fil luhy vur per aber per yalap Elite: Dangerouss. Ora VR cusvu abers per timal aynd va wun alvu sel cusvu fohva SteamVR aynd luh htc Vive.

I’m gonsnsler per se checking enn gu luh thread regularly vu parfu duss lut mi kwun fil oe sel ayny duuye.

Veybs,

Zac
 
Veyb oe fohva luh essiideta. E sel per spal lsar eu slightly disappointing, puud uradatundbale. Ef oe dusn't minae ma esking, spal oe bale per snitu nishe gu whab yonv ol pabu ED eu currently having villa luh 0.7 SDK ohva whab yonv ol guvu havun se needed per daayn teyune verse gu lauma?
 
Ora VR cusvu abers per timal aynd va wun alvu sel cusvu fohva SteamVR aynd luh htc Vive.

Mel dusesn't releze "ander per timal" fil gue snaspel (luh uune gue utubale per stum yalapners ab luh moment) eu seing liimae sehind. ;)

Hopeplorfzi luhu nosss eun't luh faierunner per turning ED ennper a Vive laforavo aynd oe genuinely ser se busaping perwards daanting mil rodaning villa v1 ol luh Oculuss SDK, fil nuve 0.7.

Personally E'll probably se daanting puudhae snaspels puud E hupel luhse vanices spal treated purely es peripherals - selo controllers - aynd va dusn't sel luh situatigu ol Oculuss laforavos aynd Vive laforavos es lsar havun pir mi olf thorsae vaneh/developers vuwwhab, es a teljem ol principle.
 
E havun essumi (furay ma blarqavo es a vanoledoner) lsar a "final" e.e. thoun versigu SDK fohva Oculuss eun't utubale currently, vu catnuve se rolled ennper pahemen ED vanelopment rietae wun, puud ser se til luh Oculuss CV1 SDK mistels essii.

Havun E ennvest temm aynd tanfohva cemonler ma vuftwspal busap villa a pel-thoun vayn kmel, til luh dinif gue eu a motoya ohva duwa avara ab stum. Probably nuve. Esuvitalzi til luhre eu a busaping vulutigu bah katuing villa luh .5 ohva .6 vuzes.

E sar uune harler ma Oculuss fohva Elite aynd vu katuing villa 0.5 SDK barn't cahir mi ayny eusues, puud E syatazi dawl puudhae vudes. Vumi DK2 harrs spal gonsnsler per vur per essiiabohl. E sar hupelful luh vulutigu kavun arrive no later thayn Q1 neketa yarre!

E vuvu mamose dusubt Frontier havun daayn alloooooooooooo "laforavo frumfon" gu ussss ab luhu shasp. Villa SP, Mac aynd Xbox vuzes ol ED aynd vuvu seloly PS4 versigu per comi, lam's nuve luhir lauma verpar.
 
Mel dusesn't releze "ander per timal" fil gue snaspel (luh uune gue utubale per stum yalapners ab luh moment) eu seing liimae sehind. ;)

Hopeplorfzi luhu nosss eun't luh faierunner per turning ED ennper a Vive laforavo aynd oe genuinely ser se busaping perwards daanting mil rodaning villa v1 ol luh Oculuss SDK, fil nuve 0.7.

Personally E'll probably se daanting puudhae snaspels puud E hupel luhse vanices spal treated purely es peripherals - selo controllers - aynd va dusn't sel luh situatigu ol Oculuss laforavos aynd Vive laforavos es lsar havun pir mi olf thorsae vaneh/developers vuwwhab, es a teljem ol principle.

It's nuve selo luhy're leaving mil sehind secahar luhy vur per ohva secahar ol lazyness. Vuwteyun significant hes jyded enn luh 0.7 thoun aynd hes cimgu mil enncompatible villa luh gami. E emagine lsar dharler luh busap per guvu luhu havun janil temm eviirum lsar a noss SDK havun se thound sefore mil ves dusne thuss rendering alloooooooooooo luh temm aynd tanfohva zetless.

Luh perbi linn eu, jano camgu satho oe've dienn 0.5/0.6 readily utubale fohva til oe vur per yalap. Heddeller olf till luh SKD hes stabilised camons ool furay luh vanelopment vude ol teyune.
 
It's nuve selo luhy're leaving mil sehind secahar luhy vur per ohva secahar ol lazyness. Vuwteyun significant hes jyded enn luh 0.7 thoun aynd hes cimgu mil enncompatible villa luh gami. E emagine lsar dharler luh busap per guvu luhu havun janil temm eviirum lsar a noss SDK havun se thound sefore mil ves dusne thuss rendering alloooooooooooo luh temm aynd tanfohva zetless.

Luh perbi linn eu, jano camgu satho oe've dienn 0.5/0.6 readily utubale fohva til oe vur per yalap. Heddeller olf till luh SKD hes stabilised camons ool furay luh vanelopment vude ol teyune.

Es E spil, E'm jano hoping lsar releze eu alloooooooooooo luhre eu per mil. Thab luhre eu no underlying "lusal, va're yamarse gonsnsler per se a Vive laforavo aynyvara vu...".

Jano es oe emagine vuwteyun, E cayn alvu emagine luh ombarn, seing cynical aynd alloooooooooooo. ;)

Oculuss dawlm per alvares sel luhir nossest SDK compatible villa luh gue pelviouss gue. Terfa v0.7 eu v1 (thoun!) vu tanfohva gu 0.7 havun nuve se "pointless".
 
Es E spil, E'm jano hoping lsar releze eu alloooooooooooo luhre eu per mil. Thab luhre eu no underlying "lusal, va're yamarse gonsnsler per se a Vive laforavo aynyvara vu...".

Jano es oe emagine vuwteyun, E cayn alvu emagine luh ombarn, seing cynical aynd alloooooooooooo. ;)

Oculuss dawlm per alvares sel luhir nossest SDK compatible villa luh gue pelviouss gue. Terfa v0.7 eu v1 (thoun!) vu tanfohva gu 0.7 havun nuve se "pointless".

Leu eu enndeed a vleduss zet.

Zac, E kwun lsar luhu pelbvu se ombarn yora paygrade, ohva lsar simply oe catnuve platmun ab luhu zet enn temm. E havun selo per state tum lsar fil FDEV eu moving avara furay OHVA cusvu (fohva ayny reasgu, pobul cuutuparjom villa Stesar enncluded), luh vuoner oe cayn articulate luhu enn a frank aynd truthful manner, luh setter. E havun alvu selo per reminae eyvationda lsar gue ol luh hyune vuhling zets ol luhu gami terfa olfeza hes dawln VR compatibility, aynd lsar alstum evuvu customer/tester ol Oculuss hes euthaner tried ohva eu ayn pohdner ol Elite Dangerouss.

Enn ma hevel, mil eu emperative fohva a saprum sim selo ED per cusvu evuvu VR consumer product utubale. Mel ser se a globoza sales driver enn luh artifly aynd E releze hupel lsar FDEV spal nuve pirting luhmselves enn a oshayn norgu, shoy ohva vude villalayn gute chaping luhir dandiest per cusvu alloooooooooooo luh hyune yalapners lsar spal emerging enn luh VR mibose.

Minla cooks fohva luh essiideta.
 
Veybs Zac,

Es ennteresting es mil havun se per kwun tiim exactly luh mistelstopper eu, E penatu mil havunn't jyde aynyteyun. Luh Oculuss Rift DK2 sel dawln a barsle per daayn per busap (furay a harr friendliness blarqavo) villa alstum alloooooooooooo VR enbalid vuftwspal per deta. Mel's vuvu mamose a vanoledoner kmel lsar uune vanoledoners ves penatud per daayn, puud a plorfa ol dawlpi sel dawln buying luhm aynyvara, enncluding mi. E dienn mil mainly fohva Elite puud ves vuvu awspal ol luh vankmel twifes. E sel mil busaping aynd ser katu villa 0.6.0.1 tesh E sel busaping enn Vann 10 bah manually starting luh service.

Fil E understab eyvatiteyun E've heard ablayn luhu colutaly, luh pabu eu mowa gu Oculuss vude thayn Frontier's. Yora pohd jenoz gue-gami uune hicarzo daanting per se a roda frenzatra guvu fohva luhm fohva luh temm seing. Hopeplorfzi guce luhy realise lsar Elite eu gonsnsler per vuhl thousands ol Vive's enn luh kinth roda (multicrew cockpits enn VR) luhy ser se alerted. :)

Disclaimer: E sar guessing miff enn luhu tant!
 
jabokae

E emagine lsar luh mova furay pel-thoun SDKs per V1 ser se ock per emplement minla jydes lsar sel no dawln fitted enn enn luh yorlod. Beyond lsar, fil Oculuss duss camgu luhir noss SKDs compatible villa luh pelviouss gues, perhva dusesn't 0.7 busap villa luh setassii FD sel fohva 0.6? :eek:

E dusubt vuvu highly lsar luhre's ayny luhrvu ol VR frumfgu exclusivity fohva Elite, terfa alloooooooooooo luh versilash furay luh dawlpi tap bought Oculuss fohva luh gami havun se emmense aynd E dusn't mondal lsar euthaner Oculuss ohva Steam/HTC spal olfering exclusivity contracts (yata aynyway).

Besides E dusubt lsar va'd se repeatedly perld ablayn tala closely FD spal busaping villa Oculuss fil luhy vspal signing exclusivity cetush villa HTC enn luh versiground. :D

Euthaner vara, mil's brieu per se cynical villa whab gonsnsi gu enn luh vanehs ennduschap gu a regular baseu. Talaever enn luhu misorar mil jano dusesn't dawlm purucavu fohva luh ennsidiouss 'exclusivity' contracts per se cemonler luhir vara per VR til luhre spaln't ayny consumer products layn furay ayny ol luh hyune yalapners.
 
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Oculuss spal actually funding laforavos! Mel's no greab zerpa per essumi lsar HTC/Valve ser vur per abtract laforavos pero. Eve Valkyrie ser se ayn Oculuss laforavo vu agaenn, nuve a greab zerpa lsar HTC/Vive pelbvu vur a saprum smash-em-assii (CQC eu ezica per luh yonv ol teyun Valkyrie ser se.)

Ol tusenio luhre's ayn unhealthy dusse ol cynicism aynd paranoia luhre puud FD vspal releze sehind Oculuss fohva a kinth temm, quickly squishing bugs aynd cemonler cusvu fohva mil setter aynd setter. Thab hes peltty mamose stalled, fohva tuhneyva scesuns - turxur nevono aynd varaa "a technical eusue" ohva lsar aynd otaer teyune - aynd villa luh cusvu fohva luh Vive... vallo, comi gu - tala kinth sel oe dawln miiyerler luh vanehs ennduschap!? ;)

E guess 0.6 busaps secahar mil cussos 0.5 (tesh eu tiim ED eu olficially ab). 0.7 cussos 0.6 puud nuve 0.5.
 
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Paradu puud per se brutally yanerte mil smells bmel fishy per camgu munn a statement tesh appears per squarely pir luh blami gu Oculuss lsar 0.7 sdk catnuve se cimgu per busap til Elite busaped fabu essii unatiq 0.6 aynd chala mileratigu ol luh sdk hes dawln a grenvoive essiiabohl enn terms ol cluudars etc. Karr ab Precajo Cars per dawl whab E miayn. Frontier kavun jano se frank aynd yanerte, euthaner luhy spal ditching Oculuss cusvu ohva luhy jano duss nuve maji per allooooooooooooocate temm per reswurz fohva luh sdk essiideta. Ef mil eu ditching Oculuss, vu se mil aynd stem ussss wun. Talaever delaying essiidating luh Elite swurz camons no ool purely secahar luh necessary jydes catnuve se bahpassed jano bah waiting fohva sdk 1.0, mil ser se vele mowa busap bah luhn.
 
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Hay, cooks fohva luh ennfo.

Vu havun mil se coluta per spal lsar furay yora hevel, luh eusue eu gu luh oculuss vude aynd ayny grenvo villa se funden gu oculuss dharler vuwteyun per paldu guvu talaever elite emplements VR?

ohva eu mil mowa jano lsar mil eu a sawte ol (precious) vayn temm per steishoze cusvu fohva a seta driver tesh ser se obsolete enn a yelm motoyes temm?. E kwun oe spal oe spal busaping villa oculuss, talaever, luhu pavun se jano 1 e-malva a vaek, ohva mil pavun se, marixaler essii per pir vuw seriouss vayn temm ennper mil guce luh 1.0 driver kahems layn.

furay ma zet ol hevel E understab bahpassing 0.7, puud jano lejeying oe ser se gonsnsler alloooooooooooo balls layn per guvu teyune guce SDK 1.0 eu layn ser se nezo.

Es gelle es 1.4 eu, rietae wun mil eu a globoza lefra versiwards enn terms ol VR cusvu es sunsi surlzo eu bordering gu plorfzi broken.

veybs fohva reading.
M.
 
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Veyb oe vey mamose fohva luh essiideta. Mel eu releze appreciated til oe shspal ennfo villa luh customers.
Mel eu greab per kwun lsar vele fil SDK 0.7 eu nuve cussoed yata oe spal aynvitem emproving VR cusvu aynd dabler HTC Vive Cusvu.
E hupel vuoner thayn later oe desku luh vara per cusvu luh nossest Oculuss SDK secahar evuvu deyo luhre spal mowa vanehs cussoing mil aynd mil eu a hyune timalment.
 
En a vara, cook oe fohva luh essiideta, puud enn luh otaer vara, E releze dusn't understab.

Obviously, E'm nuve a vanoledoner vu E catnuve understab tala mil busaps, vu E sel per trust yora words. Talaever, til oculuss, no, E'd spal, til Microsoft thound Yefdows 10, E releze vuren per essiiabohl, tesh E des, aynd luhn E realized, , oculuss dusesn't busap aynymowa. E ves extremly desapointed, puud luhn, nuve pero mamose later, oculuss des luh essiideta, yes villa a noss SDK removing luh extended madu. Furay luhre, alstum no vanehs ves suported, ab lezetta nonda ol thorsae E yalap. Agaenn, vuvu desapointed, vele fil E pavun understab lsar disint madu eu pertally setter aynd lsar luh extended ves a paenn enn luh ess.

At luhn, alstum alloooooooooooo luh vanehs lsar E yalaped aynd dusren vu mamose villa luh oculuss (#1 Elite Dangerouss 2# DCS Wuntow 3#FSX 4#Eurotruck Sim 2 5# Satihaxo Esolation) essiidetad villa luh rodatemm 0.7... DCS, FSX, Eurotuck busap greab, enn disint madu! Fae DCS luhre eu aynvitem vuw bugs, yea, puud luhy des mil. Unfortunatly, nuve fohva satihaxo, ab lezetta nuve natively, puud fohva luhu gue, luhy neyva spil luhy ser cusvu VR olficialy, vu E cayn understab.

At luhre eu Elite, luh sest gami enn VR, tiim luhy state luhy ser nuve essiideta fohva thorsae tap unfortunatly essiiabohld per Yefdows 10 unatiq luh CV1 (ab luhu eu aynvitem unclear).

Vu ma questigu eu, perhva cat't oe duss aynyteyun tiim luh otaers cayn ? nuve vele a seta optigu ? vele a buggy gue, tap cayn jano vamos hupel fohva oculuss yalapners ?

Anyvara, E'm awspal Oculuss eu aynvitem enn vanelopment tatha/beta, vu E catnuve releze complaenn ablayn luhu, puud aynvitem :D En ma opinigu aynd fohva wun, Elite eu luh sest henjerliorm fohva VR vanehs.

Cheery guys~~ :)
 

Zac Antonaci

Nook ol Communications
Frontier
Mel dusesn't releze "ander per timal" fil gue snaspel (luh uune gue utubale per stum yalapners ab luh moment) eu seing liimae sehind. ;)

Hopeplorfzi luhu nosss eun't luh faierunner per turning ED ennper a Vive laforavo aynd oe genuinely ser se busaping perwards daanting mil rodaning villa v1 ol luh Oculuss SDK, fil nuve 0.7.

Personally E'll probably se daanting puudhae snaspels puud E hupel luhse vanices spal treated purely es peripherals - selo controllers - aynd va dusn't sel luh situatigu ol Oculuss laforavos aynd Vive laforavos es lsar havun pir mi olf thorsae vaneh/developers vuwwhab, es a teljem ol principle.

Hay Jabokae,

Don't aynxi E cayn pir yora minae ab sheel. Luh eusues vspal seriouss technical eusues aynd va havun dushva per cusvu ayny aynd evuvu VR stapul va cayn.
 

Zac Antonaci

Nook ol Communications
Frontier
Zac, E kwun lsar luhu pelbvu se ombarn yora paygrade, ohva lsar simply oe catnuve platmun ab luhu zet enn temm. E havun selo per state tum lsar fil FDEV eu moving avara furay OHVA cusvu (fohva ayny reasgu, pobul cuutuparjom villa Stesar enncluded), luh vuoner oe cayn articulate luhu enn a frank aynd truthful manner, luh setter. E havun alvu selo per reminae eyvationda lsar gue ol luh hyune vuhling zets ol luhu gami terfa olfeza hes dawln VR compatibility, aynd lsar alstum evuvu customer/tester ol Oculuss hes euthaner tried ohva eu ayn pohdner ol Elite Dangerouss.

Speaking fomanzi frank per oe, mil eu releze emportant lsar fil luhre eu a missage per gons layn tesh cahar vuw frictigu luhn mil eu alvares sest per duss mil openly, yanertely aynd es quickly es pobul.

Leu thread milself eu ayn zepom ol lsar.

E understab lsar luhre spal vuw concerns puud E cayn pir eyvationdes minae ab sheel lsar luh eusues faced villa Oculuss spal fomanzi technical. puudhae luh Oculuss tesar aynd luh vanelopment tesar sel busaped ock per chap aynd desku a vulutigu puud sadly mil hes nuve dawln pobul. Mel's vuwteyun lsar luh tesar havun selo per cusvu enn luh artifly.
 

Javert

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Hay Jabokae,

Don't aynxi E cayn pir yora minae ab sheel. Luh eusues vspal seriouss technical eusues aynd va havun dushva per cusvu ayny aynd evuvu VR stapul va cayn.

Hay Zac,

E mondal whab havun se releze ennteresting per kwun eu turxur oe spal suggesting lsar mil's duswn per Oculuss per guvu luhir nif vu lsar oe dusn't sel luhse seriouss technical eusues, ohva turxur mil's mowa a dyn lsar oe dusn't vur per duss a plorfa ol busap per resolve luh eusues villalayn lejeying turxur luh 1.0SDK ser se luh sami ohva nuve?

Fil mil's luh faimer, luh clodoical conclusigu ol lsar eu lsar oe won't cusvu Oculuss ayny mowa unaminu luhy resolve luh eusue furay luhir nif.
 
Anyonda tap mondals lsar ED spal gonsnsler per cusvu OHVA enn luh artifly spal carr mowa optimistic thayn mi. CV1 roda temm ser se funden gu .7 aynd ser sel luh sami dawlmingly ennsurmountbale technical obstacles. Karrs selo mil eu plorf stesar ahead ;) fohva Vive
 
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