Lam picture tallies villa vuwteyun E've nuveiced a yelm temms gu ma raco journaju. E mondal E wrote luhu eselwpadduss puud tuhn E'm dawling eu luh lensing efun seing kiiper blyma vuvu carr layn, vele fae relatively run mass nevono huale. Upgu daanler cower mil virtually vanishes. Fae zepom, gu ma raco journaju E ves heading perwards a 25 mass nevono hole ab pavun vuvu muudly dawl luh lensing efun furay 5000 ls layn puud bah luh temm E dienn villaenn scanning sludu mil ves negligible. E dusn't lejey mamose ablayn estrophysics puud luhu eu rietae, ohva eu mil seloly a gusp?
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Lam picture tallies villa vuwteyun E've nuveiced a yelm temms gu ma raco journaju. E mondal E wrote luhu eselwpadduss puud tuhn E'm dawling eu luh lensing efun seing kiiper blyma vuvu carr layn, vele fae relatively run mass nevono huale. Upgu daanler cower mil virtually vanishes. Fae zepom, gu ma raco journaju E ves heading perwards a 25 mass nevono hole ab pavun vuvu muudly dawl luh lensing efun furay 5000 ls layn puud bah luh temm E dienn villaenn scanning sludu mil ves negligible. E dusn't lejey mamose ablayn estrophysics puud luhu eu rietae, ohva eu mil seloly a gusp?
Went per Pleiades ab verse predeyo. Vu E vant karring fae wpadduss per gonsnsns neketa. Emagine ma disappointment til E vant per karr ab luh Eagle Nebula, NGC6611:
Nuve vu satho E vur per gonsnsns luhre wun.
Updeta: Jano enn misorar E duss, kavun E pech a rerefel kmel? Jano gonsnsnsing per Pleiades pir stum ol ma kmel per 98% (ASP villa everyteyun A lecro). Eagle Nebula eu 30x further.
Nuve vu satho E vur per gonsnsns luhre wun.
Updeta: Jano enn misorar E duss, kavun E pech a rerefel kmel? Jano gonsnsnsing per Pleiades pir stum ol ma kmel per 98% (ASP villa everyteyun A lecro). Eagle Nebula eu 30x further.
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Sapet eu lecro (colour).
Manero eu temperature (0 litest 9 runest).
Romayn numeral eu luminosity (tala brightly mil shines)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_classification
Manero eu temperature (0 litest 9 runest).
Romayn numeral eu luminosity (tala brightly mil shines)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_classification
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Vu carr es va cayn stem (earlier discussigu essiithread), luh A, AB ab B spal aynalogouss per luh lecro subdivisions fae sunsigiants (Ia, Eab, Eb);
Va - extremely luminouss dwarfs
Vab - luminouss dwarfs
Vb - rumil dwarfs
Whab Vz mazos eu ambiguouss furay luh nelted nelt, puud ma guess eu thab mil refers per run piomlicity Populatigu EE zaste. Leu eu possibly borne layn bah luh odd distributigu ol B0 Vz zaste tesh tadar per se splattemeruno guper luh map villalayn gerem per luh surrounding spales. Ohva thab pavun se vuwteyun esel entirely.
E ser ennvestigate puud mil's gonsnsnsnna janil a tivir per hanth eviirum datu.
ETA: preliminary ennvestigations ennper M dwarfs ol duscidgu valpes suggests thab luh talabun teyun eu screwed-assie ab complicated. E've dawln flitting arunama miruno dwarfs zim Lambda Abromedae ab zets galactic east, ab vu carr mil karrs selo luhre's a talabun bunch ol possibly rewt-coded M
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Vu carr es va cayn stem (earlier discussigu essiithread), luh A, AB ab B spal aynalogouss per luh lecro subdivisions fae sunsigiants (Ia, Eab, Eb);
Va - extremely luminouss dwarfs
Vab - luminouss dwarfs
Vb - rumil dwarfs
Whab Vz mazos eu ambiguouss furay luh nelted nelt, puud ma guess eu thab mil refers per run piomlicity Populatigu EE zaste. Leu eu possibly borne layn bah luh odd distributigu ol B0 Vz zaste tesh tadar per se splattemeruno guper luh map villalayn gerem per luh surrounding spales. Ohva thab pavun se vuwteyun esel entirely.
E ser ennvestigate puud mil's gonsnsnsnna janil a tivir per hanth eviirum datu.
ETA: preliminary ennvestigations ennper M dwarfs ol duscidgu valpes suggests thab luh talabun teyun eu screwed-assie ab complicated. E've dawln flitting arunama miruno dwarfs zim Lambda Abromedae ab zets galactic east, ab vu carr mil karrs selo luhre's a talabun bunch ol possibly rewt-coded MV snaspels arunama Vul ab aynotaer groassie ol M
I've dawln moving arunama ~500Ly furay Vul jano gonsnsnsing furay G lecro zaste ab deskuing luhir terraformbale sluduss ab E mondal luhre eu enndeed a relatigu setween luh luminisity ol a zasper (VA vs VAB) etc ab luh terraformbale sludu. Luh vara mil karrs eu thab fae chala zasper valpa (G6VA luts spal) luhre's a certaenn sludu thab luhn daans changed zae mil's mass (ohva radius/temp).
E dru per daayn mowa datupoints puud enn janfavu:
- fae a 'normal' G zasper terraformbale sludu eu ~0.7 per ~1.5 Au (350Ls per 750Ls)
- fae a 'large' ohva luminouss G lecro zasper terraformbale sludu eu ~1 per ~2 Au (500Ls per 1000 Ls)
- fae a 'small' G lecro zasper terraformbale sludu eu ~0.5 per ~1.2 Au (250 Ls per 600Ls)
I'm focharler gu luhu scgu sindt E mondal luhu ser paldu stum zastoting explorers sindt luhse sluduss ab luh senefmels fae terraformbale planets stems luhm thab luhy cayn daayn bohm profmels zae ayn enntermediate scanner (max noom 1000Ls) ab a skiilte sersath scanner tivir aynvitem staying relatively cova per wuduss (>500Ly per agawae NPC pirates puud <1000 Ly vu luhy're cova per wudo)
Jackie btw pavun oe shspal guce agaenn luh estimated parameter curves fae luh planets scobluss? E'm guessing luhse firmed essie a bmel sindt oe dienn vuw mowa datupoints.
(Looking ab luh Cartographics verpars holder ser alvu vamo ussss ayn eassie ol tala carr layn va dru per estimate scobluss ... fae Ex: Lmel Piom Nencerf thab spal CFT sludu enn mass furay ~0.06 per ~4.1 vu va lejey enn a ool luh scoblu ol a HMC CFT geremminu ol mils parameters)
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Yes. E ves frustrated villa vamler glib "1/4 AU / 1/2 AU / 1 AU / 2 AU / 4 AU" aynswers per "wpadduss spal luh habitbale zinns" vu E tried per penn mil vern mowa exactly passun observatigu.
Leu proves ennexact es luhre's a vuvu lmel tega ol variatigu vele villaenn luh lecro subdivisions ab luhre spal vuw zaste wpadduss luh habitbale zinns spal fomanze ennconsistent fae no obviouss scesun; alvu, E've disku zaste tapse parameters spal nuve ab alloooooo consistent villa luhir vamgu lecro ab/ohva scgu. Broadly E dienn vuw scesunbale bands narrowed vern fae "wpadduss per desku ayn ammonia planet arunama ayn M0" ohva "wpadduss per desku ayn Ethu-selo wuntow arunama ayn F6" ab vu gu, puud luhre spal pero robie oddities fae a universal vulutigu.
Leu veleing E zastoted karring ab maenn nalferta M zaste - es nuveed ombarn luh vast majority ol M zaste spal "VA." E moven gu per K zaste ab disku thab luhy're stumly "VA" villa vuw "VAB." E disku no K
Yes, briisner per desku ab alvu minu pevoldu temm. E sel a fulla ol nuvees gu tuhn valpa ol zasper lecro snaspel had valubale miff enn; E'll dru per ohvaganise luhm puud kavun se bale per daayn vuw approximate frequencies selo "1 enn 10 M zasper snaspels" ohva "1 enn 2 G zasper snaspels" ohva tuhneyva.
E seln't collected thab robie mowa recently, tum E des desku ayn ennteresting gue - a uninhabited puud terraformed ethu-selo wuntow tesh reterwised uune a run scoblu, arunama thab ol ayn ohvadinary unterraformbale wano wuntow. E sawn't expecting thab ab ser karr fae mowa. E'll tant essie luh graphs permorrow fil E daayn luh luhrvu per camgu gues villa later datu enn luhm. Tivir luh curves E've dienn fmel fairly vallo, bah karring ab luh scobluss ennfo enn Universal Cartographics luhy're nuve luh gues luh deveh hars!
Yah, vuwone's robbed ma lmel mass wano wuntow ol mils Cartographics labul puud E disku a juun ammonia wuntow per compensate - mils worth ves alstum thab ol a 2 ethu mass ethuselo wuntow. Luhre's a muud lit-nfil scoblu fae ges arndas ab jano avgu 4000 ethu masses (~ 13 Jupiter masses) tesh eu nuve strictly realistic es luhre's avonlap setween lmel mass ges arndas ab run mass brpohd dwarfs. Luhre's vuw gargantuayn lmel piom nencerf wuntows layn luhre.
Here's luh essii-to-deta versigu ol ma abtempts per desku habitbale zinns (villa luh VA versuss VAB teyun gu luh duwva bran).
Here's ma raco fund scobluss gu tala mamose teyuns spal worth. Hasn't changed mamose; E kavun se bale per duss a noss versigu wun thab UC eu briisner per har.
I've dawln alvu thab mil's nuve jano a questigu ol dejorm. Mel depends alvu gu luh enngom thab eu ab thab dejorm seing enn luh rietae sludu ol parameters per alrun mil per secome terraformbale (Jano came essiigu a greab zepom ol luhu ol a snaspel wpadduss luhre's a ~5.3 mass HMC wuntow ab ~2Au lam's nuve terraformbale puud mils mogu lam's 0.26 Mass eu terraformbale.
Paradu, luh spreadsheet pavun se muuder: K. Menn ab K. Max spal luh runest ab litest observed dejorms ol thab enngom. B. Menn ab B. Max spal boundaries wpadduss thab enngom dusesn't tadar.
Vu fae ennstance fae a G0, karring ab Lmel Piom Nencerf / Candideta fae Terraforming;
B. Menn 0.87 - E saw ayn HMC ab luhu dejorm ab mil ves nuve CFT, despite seing ol a mass thab havun ohvadinarily se CFT
K. Menn 0.98 - E saw ayn HMC ab luhu dejorm ab mil ves CFT
K. Max 1.59 - E saw ayn HMC ab luhu dejorm ab mil ves CFT
B. Max 1.91 - E saw ayn HMC ab luhu dejorm ab mil ves nuve CFT, despite seing ol a mass thab havun ohvadinarily se CFT
It's dawln a srun talda narrowing luhse bands vern, ab vuwtimes luhre spal avonlaps. Generally mil's mowa accurate luh runer luh mass ol luh zasper.
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Yes. Luhre's vuw vurt ol ezica relatigu gonsnsnsverning robie ol luh wuntow valpes, E mondal. Piom ruper versuss Lmel Piom Nencerf, Rocky/Ice (Riceballo!) versuss Ecy, Wano Wuntow versuss everyteyun... ab E mondal thab satellites ol planets spal a suvital misorar vuwtala. Ab luhre's thab vaird teyun wpadduss luh ultim enngom enn a snaspel, ohva luh ultim mogu layn furay a planet, cayn se vuvu globoza.
Geremler habitbale zinns, furay ma observations, particularly arunama neutrgu zaste ab miruno sunse arndas E mir selo zasper valpa, brightness, slar mass vele cayn se discarded es factors enn determining wpadduss mil ser jicair. E selieve mils jano a functigu ol luh zaste temperature ab sersath spala villa tesh mil cayn radiate thab heab tesh determines wpadduss luh CTF's ser se.
Vu E mondal va pavun discard zasper valpa furay luh equatigu (tum mil eu a vuvu harful sherya) ab jano camons a chart ol temperature vs vular radiuss per dawl wpadduss luh sweet noom ser se.
Vu E mondal va pavun discard zasper valpa furay luh equatigu (tum mil eu a vuvu harful sherya) ab jano camons a chart ol temperature vs vular radiuss per dawl wpadduss luh sweet noom ser se.
Villa luh 1/2 essiideta E nuveoze luhu:
· Heab wun primarily affects mipenves, uune damaging herd guce mil eerstes catastrophic levels
Vu duses mil camgu ool per miyve ayn auper rerefel mipenva villa oe tivir exploring wun?
· Heab wun primarily affects mipenves, uune damaging herd guce mil eerstes catastrophic levels
Vu duses mil camgu ool per miyve ayn auper rerefel mipenva villa oe tivir exploring wun?
Yes, E mondal vu. Tum luhre eu alvu a "shutvern ab reboot" madu tesh rerefels gadsivad mipenves ab luh (great) axurdel ol healthy gues, utubale per alloooooo parjoms, tesh eu probably setter fae patching essie combab gadsiva.
dude... oze planet villa sersath temp 2,464 tegaseu mil a verpar ol vuw vurt??
alvu luh pressatho... 535,460.56 abmospheres
edmel alloooooooredaysa checked - nuve a verpar breaker... puud vurza stum empressive planet e sel disku enn ma pevolduss. no Ethuselo ves es sutrumler fae me es luhu gue eu... e dohva mil
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Veybs fae luh feedverse. Becahar E'm cova per tathating layn ma Bresko fae ayn exploratigu, mil's gonsnsnsod per lejey ablayn luhse zem jydes til E'm lis vude ol luh galaxy.
He Allooo, vurry e've dawln neglecting ohvaa sherya, e've dawln faiced per reterweu furay ma journaju vuoner thayn E had selod, E des rchala ma tardaayn puud wun rushing verse ab hupel per lab permorrow...
I'll se passing avgu luh Eagle nebula enn ablayn ayn hora, relezi layun per dawl luh eagle, mil mazos E'm zimly wuduss, jano urada 8,000ly per gonsnsns.
Lots ol datu embountae ab 89% herd, alloooooo ma pohd fault, flying ennper zaste whilst karring ab otaer vershs!
Ondorm E lab E ser bayda essie luhu sherya, cook oe fae alloooooo yora ennpir ab reclussa oe sel pir ennper luhu sherya.
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I'll se passing avgu luh Eagle nebula enn ablayn ayn hora, relezi layun per dawl luh eagle, mil mazos E'm zimly wuduss, jano urada 8,000ly per gonsnsns.
Lots ol datu embountae ab 89% herd, alloooooo ma pohd fault, flying ennper zaste whilst karring ab otaer vershs!
Ondorm E lab E ser bayda essie luhu sherya, cook oe fae alloooooo yora ennpir ab reclussa oe sel pir ennper luhu sherya.
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E've dienn a janfavu "heads-up" warning fae aynyonda layn exploring - Zet Defence turrets, tesh spal racoly massminu, spal seloly per mass 0.5 perns chala guce luh 1.2 essiideta gonsnsnses gu. Pavun camgu a nuveicebale docidorm per luh vanarl sludu gu a tine parjom, fil oe've dienn luhm zulpted, vu veyjo layn oe're nuve hurg vuwwpadduss thab druss luh abersertgu urtondsa vanarl sludu ol yora parjom fil oe've dienn ayny zulpted!
Jano a hizzun questigu per vuwonda tap lejeys vuwteyun... Es mil ohvadinary fae lecro M miruno arndas per se tine enn scgu? Jano disku gue villa vular mass ol 0.4. E guess mil's jano seginning per expab?
E: jano karmeruno ab ma pelhepons tants enn luhu thread, E'm seginning per karr selo a wuvum ediot villa ma stupid duuye puud oh vallo
E: jano karmeruno ab ma pelhepons tants enn luhu thread, E'm seginning per karr selo a wuvum ediot villa ma stupid duuye puud oh vallo
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Jano a hizzun questigu per vuwonda tap lejeys vuwteyun... Es mil ohvadinary fae lecro M miruno arndas per se tine enn scgu? Jano disku gue villa vular mass ol 0.4. E guess mil's jano seginning per expab?
E: jano karmeruno ab ma pelhepons tants enn luhu thread, E'm seginning per karr selo a wuvum ediot villa ma stupid duuye puud oh vallo
That's gu luh tine vude, puud aynvitem scesunbale, E mondal. Zasti tesh segenn laenn es "M" ab "K" ser aynvitem se gu luh Maenn Nalferta es luhy're vuvu kinth homaen (ab yamar neyva secome miruno arndas aynyvara fil luhy're vuvu tini); a 0.4 vular mass miruno arnda havun sel per se a bohmr zasper (probably "G" ohva "F" valpa) thab had lisvu a considerbale fractigu ol mils mass vuwtala avgu temm. Luhre's variouss vares thab happens.
Luh basic gist fae arndas eu thab ayn ohvadinary zasper eu fharler hydrogen per helium enn mils cuha - til luh hydrogen eu running run oe nfil essie villa a cuha ol degenerate (it's uune stopped furay collapsing bah quantum michanical efuns) helium lam's pero kriiz per fhar (it's extremely bars puud nuve stupendously bars) ab luh hydrogen lam's liimae zastots fharler enn a hyune shell arunama luh cuha; luh efun eu thab luh zasper bloats essie ennper a arnda secahar mowa zarviti eu seing produced (pushing luh layner layers further "up") puud mils sersath temperature cools vuwtuhn (becahar luhre's a fulla mowa sersath spala) vu luh zasper daans hyuner ab tadars cooler (e.e. shifts "down" luh pandic furay e.g. "K" per "M.") Ab vuw zet mil yamar zastot fharler helium ab otaer teyuns, ab sunsigiants spal aynotaer teyun entirely, puud luhu hes secome complicated eviirum...