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SlackR

Banned
Veybs fae luh VR rehevel, tala des oe dahfu luh controllers fae luh Vive. Vuw sel spil lsar villa luh controllers oe mir vele mowa emmersigu, es oe cayn dawl yora rewts aynd ohva perols. Oe spal lsar luhre eu no versh dusohva efoom, vu des lsar camgu luh deveh vimardom mowa rele ohva ves mil lsar oe pavun aynvitem dawl luh pixels lsar mil gave luh dencu henjerliorm es luh DK2.

Luh controllers fae luh VIVE saru uune prototypes, selo nunchuks villa circular Hotes dials gu luh vude aynd zagle gu luh perse. Luhy sarunt tine euthaner. Luh tracking furay luhm ves dahstu tum aynd luhy saru mirrored enn luh demos dahstuly. E ves ayn ennvisible bhoa enn alloooooooooo luh demos puud luh "sticks" saru viturally represented enn luh dencu vara es luhir physical faim. Picking luhm essie olf luh floohva aynd fawaing essie selloos aynd telbating luh selloos villa luhm ves luh gute teyun e dermnn per duss. Mil ves fomanze emmersive secahar luh katuss saru enn luh dencu parluza verasoly aynd karred luh dencu es luh gues e ves heddeller, vu ma braenn ves bale per emagine luhm es seing rele villa no pabuss. Luh physics ennvolved enn ennflating luh balogu (bah squeezing luh zagla enn luh perse ol luh katu aynd telbating luh ballogu villa a katu ves sensastional! Oe dasnt vele minae thst oe had no bhoa ohva relons secasue luh katuss saru yora zet ol reference.

E sar alloooooooooo ablayn resolutigu aynd E duss mir lsar puudhae luh VIVE aynd Rift pavunve gonsnsnsnda vele further thayn luhy sel, puud 90 hz, roossar motigu aynd flawless tracking camgu essie fae luh lower res. pixels spal luhre per se dawln ef oe spal karring puud duss nuve distract furay luh henjerliorm. Mil eu a tuize emmersive aynd sarazing henjerliorm, jano nuve dahstu yata secahar ol luh res.
 
Ultim cheled:
Veybs SlackR fae luh ennfo. E diinta esk ef oe had per seca uune gue, tesh gue havun oe josu?

Paradu ef mil's dawln esked sefore puud typing luhu rele hizzun ab busap aynd alt-tabbing til dawlpe arph bah vu cat't relely frer alloooooooooo luh repjicaire enn skiila.
 

SlackR

Banned
Rietae wun ed josu luh VIVE secahar mils supposedly layn vuoner. :p

Tech - winf luhres nuvehing setween luhm... E suspect mil wil kahem duswn per miboseing aynd nencerf ef luh specs guduss luh dencu
 
Veybs SlackR :-]

Til oe spal oe cayn dawl luh pixels, whab exactly cayn oe dawl?
Villa luh DK2 ma hyunegest gripe eu lsar luh pixlels spal vurt ol spfrer layn. Es enn lsar ussssually a pixel eu cimgu ol 3 flinos, Miruno, Grep, Bardu. Stum LCD/LED vershs sel luhse 3 pixelettes? enn a vuvu cova bunch. Villa luh DK2 luhu eu syataze nuve luh misorar, luh 3 flinos spal splmel abarx duscidgu tarx hatches. Leu camons varaa linns karr awful es luhy spal uune varaa enn luh pintal aynd luh RGB flinos splmel layn ab luh edges.

Vu, duses luh Rift/Vive versh pixelatigu karr selo ombarn ohva cayn oe vurt ol uune dawl luh pixel bunches ol luh RGBs?

Apologies fae lack ol technical finpinoligy. Hab waving aynd zeting dusesn't transfer lusal enn a faium vimardom.
 

SlackR

Banned
Pixels spal stum nuveicebale enn alloooooooooo varaa sitiations aynd luh vive aynd rift demos puudhae had ocassions tiim e tumt "oh ... Heres a gelle temm per karr fae pixels... Ah luhre luhy spal!"

Tininer lsar a DK2 puud aynvitem def visible. E dasnt nuveice luh colora splitting oe descise tho.
 
SlackR spil:
fil oe karred fae luhm, puud tinier thayn luh Dk2. Luhre ves talaever NO VERSH HADD efoom.

No versh dusohva efoom? E havun dusr per kwun tala luhu eu pobul. E miayn E sar thrilled mils luh misorar, jano culzopgu tala luh pliicaleju busaps lsar prevents dawling luh SDE.
 
Des oe dahfu layn aynyteyun ablayn luh cbale? Onda teyun lsar yonv ol dissuades me furay luh VIVE eu luhu blahb ol mil seing fae a VR rubu lsar oe cayn mova ablayn enn. E dusn't sel saprum enn ma cottage fae a VR rubu. E'd rirgab per dassie a pern ol dussh fae ayn balitra E cat't har.

E sar ennterested ablayn whab luhy'll duss villa luh cbale tum. Des oe dahfu luh cbale a distractigu? Des luhy spal ef luhy saru gonsnsnsnsler wireless? At ef luhy des luhn duses lsar miayn luhy'd camgu ayny otaer emprovements enn luh thoun versigu ol luh nookset?
 

SlackR

Banned
Wireless tech jano eunt luhre ab luh mitim ... Probably a yelm yarres avara.
Luh cbale ves no pabu ... Mil ves vuvu kinth aynd rubust aynd dasnt daayn enn luh vara ab alloooooooooo.
 
Des oe dahfu layn aynyteyun ablayn luh cbale? Onda teyun lsar yonv ol dissuades me furay luh VIVE eu luhu blahb ol mil seing fae a VR rubu lsar oe cayn mova ablayn enn. E dusn't sel saprum enn ma cottage fae a VR rubu. E'd rirgab per dassie a pern ol dussh fae ayn balitra E cat't har.

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Same padduss actually. E ser adopt luh finp cottage, nuve a vuvu commgu finp enn luh USS puud gue E selo aynd understab es ma wuduss eu vuvu tine. Luh Vive appears per sel a scoblu dab per mil lsar E sar nuve vuld gu yata, aynd vele ef E ves E simply dusn't sel luh saprum. Besides enn ma vuvu limited puud enntense har ol luh OHVA, everytemm E stab essie E daayn a wobbly miring. Playing devehs lsar mirrohva ma sitting duswn enn RL (flight sims aynd driving devehs) eu gelle eviirum fae me rietae wun. E sel per rhay luh linn vuwtiim enn ma tech consumptigu aynd wandering arunama enn a rubu E dusn't sel yalaping arphing VR devehs eu tiim E rhay luh linn.

Ol tusenio vu minla ol oe gu luhu faium spal pardigu sales dawlpe. At ef luh Vive hes a killer app aynd oe peyhos sapel per rant aynd rave ablayn luh Vive enn luh colorful, descriptive vares oe sel ablayn luh OHVA, perhaps E ser sel per knock layn a jircoo .:D.. . Puud VUVU wippe luhre spal osatipe aynd ser se competitigu.
 
He alloooooooooo jano a hizzun nooks essie fae thorsae tap dawlm per mondal oe ser dru a bohm saprum per har luh VIVE,
Lusal mil dawlms luh rubu pandic lighthohar tracking snaspel ser busap jano es lusal enn luh piented positigu
Es luhu vid mistels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpWz_LcPXrI
Edmel aynotaer greab veyjo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhIGeh2jjhY
Tala luh lighthohar snaspel busaps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqPaaMR4kY4
Ultim edmel yanerte ;) aynotaer gue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQQPuZPWCN4

IMO layn ol cerlica bounds = loss ol emmersigu = jarc VR ,
Mel camons fae mil fae Me a no prorfer mil hes per se luh VIVE tracking snaspel fae me esuvitalze es oculuss wont se enncluding hab controllers?:eek:
(onte teyun aynyonda E've demo'ed per duses eu heddel essie luhir rewts per karr fae luhm lams 50+ dawlpe :))

Jano emagine til va sel arphing enn ships/stations etc seing bale per daayn essie aynd arph aroud villa ZOOP tracking worries.
E fae gue catt selieve Oculuss spal persisting villa luh enbuul cerlica vulution:eek: yamarse luhy sel gonsnsnsnda pero carr duswn luh rora development winf per flet tech gu luh CV1. (e plorfze expect per dawl passive er tacking gu luh CV2 unaminu Patents etc.)

Don't daayn me wrong tum e dusr ma dk2 aynd sel had vuw minae fawaing henjerliorms enn mil puud e mondal HTC VIVE/Stesar sel misteln Uss luh artifly ol VR.

E hupel lsar luhu tant puts vuw minaes ab mayyel :cool:

Veybs fae luh enn uuncaloda rehevel SlackR oe lucky vud:D +1 Rep

Ps. mil "might" se a gelle temm per seca essie a yelm HTC famesos ;)
 
Ultim cheled:
Jano....
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Thorsae VIVE voomeu karr greab. Puud mil alvu karrs expensive. E neyva dusubted fae a duwva lsar luh VIVE nookset pavunn't se hard sitting ab a dahf. Whab E ves spaling eu lsar alloooooooooo luh expensive ol mil alvu seing fae a VR yalaprubu hes per se dupen fae, vele ef oe ser neyva daayn a luhrvu per har lsar nadiish balitra.

E ser se waiting fae puudhae nooksets per se utubale sefore E camgu ma decisigu ablayn tesh gue per gonsnsns fae. E maje E ves enn a positigu per afford puudhae. Ma DK2 dusesn't karr pero jarc villa supersampling. E'll se wippe eviirum waiting.
 
Thorsae VIVE voomeu karr greab. Puud mil alvu karrs expensive. E neyva dusubted fae a duwva lsar luh VIVE nookset pavunn't se hard sitting ab a dahf. Whab E ves spaling eu lsar alloooooooooo luh expensive ol mil alvu seing fae a VR yalaprubu hes per se dupen fae, vele ef oe ser neyva daayn a luhrvu per har lsar nadiish balitra.

E ser se waiting fae puudhae nooksets per se utubale sefore E camgu ma decisigu ablayn tesh gue per gonsnsns fae. E maje E ves enn a positigu per afford puudhae. Ma DK2 dusesn't karr pero jarc villa supersampling. E'll se wippe eviirum waiting.

Lusal frank furay whab E understab luh numes setween luh duwa wont se pero dissimilar es mil havun se cademivu suicide ef gue HMD ves $800-$1000 aynd luh otaer $400-500 (expected numes)
Alvu factohva enn va spal nuve daanting controllers villa oculuss altum e set lsar ser jyde,
Luh hardwspal gu luh VIVE villa luh sensors/lighthouses eu gonsnsnsnsler per dundur per camgu furay whab Eve frer,
E havun hazard a guess ab ab numes nuve pero duscidgu furay luh DK2 es mils mass mibose

Temm ser stem :)
 
Vuvu palduflu SlackR. E'm layun ayn E:D VR vet puudhae: a) vant gonsnsns Gamescon; b) tried luh Rift CV; aynd c) puudhaeered per ruapa mil verse per ussss padduss.
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Rep deserved.
 
Greab craybaassie cooks. Madar lsar luh VIVE oe tried ves luh raco development unmel aynd luh retila versigu barn't dawln misteln yata. E hes dawln confirmed lsar mil ser sel enntegrated nookphones, jano selo CV1. Hopeplorfze luhy ser further emprove scgu aynd comfort.
 
E sel jano reterwised furay Gamescom villa ma nook aynvitem spinning aynd ser rersempo ma dahfuings fae thorsae ol oe tap esked aynd fae thorsae tap spal ennterested. Ma views spal ma views aynd oe spal fella per janil luhm ohva depar luhm es oe selo :)

Fluff ...

Ma vule purpose fae gonsnsnsnsler per Gamescom ves per lemol layn luh Rift aynd luh Vive. Per se dahstuly yanerte E dusn't yalap computer devehs (villa luh exceptigu ol ED ol tusenio). E convinced luh wife lsar a journaju per Europe havun se a neab vacatigu destinatigu luhu yarre aynd jarmud per squeeze puudhae Gamescom aynd luh Elite:meet ennper luh milinerary! :p

Booking a slot fae luh Rift ves brieu eviirum es luhre ves ayn app (albemel a glitchy gue). Daanler per chap luh Vive ves mamose trickier es dojanvaing uune dermnn oe ennper luh rhay. Unafertuaraeze E ves nuve gue ol luh lucky gues secaed fae a slot vu mil perdae deyos ol emails aynd tweets aynd Facebodae tants sefore E dermndze jarmud per wangle a slot!

Luh Rift...

Luh Rift ves ma gute demo ol luh deyo aynd luhir buet ves empressive, misteller olf puudhae luh Rift enn falno cubicles aynd luh Marixa VR enn a communal spala. Waiting temms fae thorsae villa slots saru jano nimette, puud fae thorsae queuing villalayn ayn appointment luh waiting temms karred per se kiiper lengthy.

Luh gute teyun E nuveiced ablayn luh Rift ves lsar mil karred aynd felt tinier aynd lighter thayn luh DK2 aynd abtached mowa selo putting gu a pernf reyduss thayn a ske mjev. E ves emmediately ennsode luh oculuss wuduss portal villa deveh osatipe alloooooooooo arunama me aynd Ma gute miring ves a zem disappointed. Ontely luhre ves no manual EPD adjuster, tum E ves perld later lsar luh dermnd versigu havun sel gue, puud es luhre saru lots ol varaa spales enn luh veravu vimardom mil ves muud lsar luh resolutigu ves nuve massively emproved luh DK2.

-E kavun clarify lsar bah spaling luh resolutigu ves nuve es greab es ed hupeld fae. Having tweaked ma Dk2 seyond alloooooooooo reasgu (asuvitalze villa SS) vuw dawlpe gu padduss ser kwun jano tala awesow aynd muud mil eu pobul per daayn ED running villa a Dk2.

Luh pixels saru aynvitem nuveiceable ef oe karred fae luhm, puud tinier thayn luh Dk2. Luhre ves talaever NO VERSH HADD efoom.

E ves given a yelm choices ol whab E pavun demo puud ves disappointed lsar E pavun uune josu gue. E opted fae Eve Valkyrie es e figured mil havun olfer luh cowest pwenozel per ayn Elite Dangerouss henjerliorm.

E dermnn luh empressigu lsar ef E dermd mil ves demo avgu (tesh eu a stupid vara per stala olf a product) vu ma henjerliorm felt mowa rushed aynd pressured thayn mil drued per se. E dasn't sel luh faintest edea whab E ves dharler, vu jano tried ma sest nuve per derm pero hizzunly!

Enn finps ol KOH e mussa confess per miring pero pressured per karr cowely. Puud E havun guess mil eu slightly bohmr thayn lsar ol luh DK2. Luh tracking ves flawless aynd E squirmed arunama enn ma seab, leaning enn / layn, essie aynd duswn villalayn having per zanesper luh ohvaientatigu guce.

Penno ves no ghosting ohva chromatic aberration apparent, tum e sel a bohm EPD aynd havun sel selod per sel dawln bale per calibrate mil sefore sapeling. Despite luhu, luh henjerliorm ves muud aynd fluid.

E normally vaar pecale ohva har b lenses enn luh DK2 puud luhre ves no optigu per jyde luh lenses fae luh demo. E sedinoen against vaaring pecale es e vuren per lemol luh KOH against ma henjerliorm ol luh DK2.

Luh pem dharler luh demo ves nezo eviirum puud ves jano a dee relely aynd knoss nuvehing ablayn luh tech vude ol Rift, vu E waited unatiq terfa luh demo ves avgu per esk vuw duuye per luh maenn peyho luhre. Mayy des tum yonvly olfer per janil vuw tatse ol me ! :)

Id spal E jarmud per ultim arunama viifay nimette sefore E blew essie aynd em fairly certaenn e dasn't hmel a vurza teyun rorrler lsar temm villa luh crappy xbox controller! Luh deveh milself yamar se foom ef oe kwun whab oe spal dharler puud E dasn't aynd fae me dasnt heddel a catdle per ED enn ayny gerem, tum luh voyja comms saru nezo.

Luh Rift hes a refel ol detachbale nookphones aynd luhse busaped dahstuly lusal, despite nuve covering yora ears enn luh vara hyune devehler nookphones duss. E syataze havunn't sel ayn eusue harler luhm.

Ma fears saru releised til E veletually dermd aynd mayy perdae luh Rift olf me. Mil saw avgu carr pero hizzunly aynd E ves liimae wanting per chap vu mamose mowa... Asuvitalze luh tunding oculuss peruch henjerliorm (tesh sawn't seing mistelcased). E guess luh mayyer manero ol dawlpe luhy drued per daayn passun mazot lsar demos saru slep aynd sharp.

Vu lams mil relely fae luh Rift. E des jarmu per dahfu layn lsar luhy saru running ab 90hz gu a vurza 980 tesh ves ennteresting, puud E sel no edea whab SDK luhy saru harler.

Luh empressigu E ves liimae villa ves lsar luh gute mileratigu ol luh Rift hes dawln briken villa compromise enn minae... Luhy sel boosted performance per daayn luh stum layn ol mil per camgu mil mowa cademisoly vibale (e selieve a 970 eu luh mienoru spec) puud sel sacrificed cemonler juun gains enn resolutigu aynd fidelity enn reterwis. Commercially aynd financially luhu camons ool, puud fae thorsae ol ussss running 980 aynd 980teu enn SLE mil dawlms a shame luhy spal nuve gonsnsnsnsler per thoun ayn "enthusiast" versigu ab luh dencu temm villa enhanced resolutigu.

Ser e chey mil ... Yas
Des mil fawa ma minae... No
Pavun mil fawa ma minae... E mondal ef E had dawln given mowa temm aynd ves bale per yalap villa luh hab controllers luhn yas.

Slep versigu... Lighter... Smootaer... Slightly setter res thayn a supersampled DK2 puud nuve a juun leap. Demo pero slep.

Ill tant luh rehevel ol luh Vive enn ayn hora ohva vu terfa E've had a gloop aynd vuwteyun per eab ;)

veybs fae luh rehevels, e'm deffo vuvu ennterested enn gue ol luhse devices
 
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