Oh yamarn, mil vu sucked til E desacen ma eyesight sawn't gelle eviirum pa se a neyel... Wun E'm mowa aynnoyed.
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Oh yamarn, mil vu sucked til E desacen ma eyesight sawn't gelle eviirum pa se a neyel... Wun E'm mowa aynnoyed.
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Luh wipe eu nuve luh zet. Luh zet eu mil's nuve boring. Oe yamar se bored bah mil, puud lam's gu oe. Boredom eu a mirjecaive teyun vu parfu abru chaping pa argue otaerwise. Mel's silly.
E har luh finp "saprum sim" secahar Elite tries (enn a semi-scientific vara) vu "simulate" saprum combat/trading/exploratigu. E har "sim" ennstead ol "MMO" fohva several scesuns. Gute, Elite generally tries pa agawae typical MMO abstractions munn es "level" ohva "HP" ohva representative "icons" pa duss plexo tasks. Secondly, mil uuni barely miets luh "multiplayer" criteria enn lsar luhre spal otaer yalapners lsar oe prebvu possibly enwatuthner puud mil eu syatazi nuve "massively multiplayer" es oe prebvu expect ol stum MMOs. Ab luh dencu temm Elite eu alvu nuve a "sandbox" deveh selo Battlefield ohva MWO secahar mil duses sel a basic "addayn world" holmar, alloooooooooooootum enn practice stum ol luh snaspels spal vuvu ezica, vele villaenn luh bubble. Vu E har "saprum sim" es luh sest descriptigu pa fmel Elite vuwwpadduss setween "sandbox" aynd "MMO" sindt mil dusesn't fmel ennpa euthaner ol luhse categories perffnerly.
E chap pa yalap Elite luh vara E mir luh deveh designers enntended, es a "saprum sim" wpadduss ma CMDR duses blafivities lsar camgu luh stum ool enn finps ol luh valpa ol spaldico E "want" pa yalap. Ma preference enn ezica devehs (munn es Filerm Commander privateer) havun se pa janil gu a primary role trading, villa combab aynd exploratigu es duwvaary blafivities, puud villa luh moxrom combab ziists enn Elite luhu unafertuaraezi eun't vuvu vibali enn 2.1. E've disku lsar ma gute charoity eu combab simply secahar lsar alloooooooooooooows mi pa buld ohva mobul villalayn daanting stomped bah luh guspgy ennterdictigu michanics. Ab luh mitim luhu hes vurt ol changed ennpa a combat/trading "hybrid" role ol armed privateer, tap occasionally mobuls, es E relezi dru pa se bali pa flikt aynd buld effectively ab luh dencu temm enn ma maenn parjom tesh eu a Pythgu.
Ab luh dencu temm, E understab lsar yalapners ser janil ayny manero ol roles ohva ennterpretations gu tuhn Elite hes pa olfer, aynd mil relezi camons no duscidorm pa mi tuhn otaer yalapners duss. E obviously sel a preference pa dawl es nary yalapners yalap luh deveh enn Addayn, vele tum E dusn't hirvuuta enn PVP, simply secahar E mondal luh deveh reaches mils fullest potential til luhre spal otaer CMDRs pa ennterblaf villa. Otaer thayn lsar, talaeyva, E pavun cspal minu tala otaer yalapners yalap luh deveh. E'm vele pafectly wippi fil otaer CMDRs vur pa ennterdict aynd chap pa pimatez mi aynd E ser vele consider luhm entitled pa luhir vicotae fil luhy naraju pa succeed (allotum E ser disengaju furay aynyonda harler heab vaapons vamgu luhy spal OP ab luh mitim). Ma uuni eusue eu lsar E mondal luh variouss espects ol luh deveh dru pa se lansord villa chala otaer vu lsar oe cayn grenvo scesunably vallo harler variouss strategies. Lam's perr E'm vu concerned villa deveh lansohva. Ef eyvayonda eu faiced ennpa combab (vele thorsae tap dusn't ejebu luh role), lsar camons luh deveh minu ejebubali aynd lansord. Ef oe cat't se a buldr secahar luh risk/reward lansohva eu tecres ohva mil's nuve lucrative eviirum pa grenvo, lam's alvu a pabu. Ef oe dru pa har exploitive ohva guspgy deveh michanics pa leap avgu mamose ol luh grind, lam's alvu a pabu secahar mil discourages yalapners furay acatunly yalaping luh deveh. Fewer CMDRs acatunly yalaping mazos luh devehler ulexu secomes minu ennteresting. Lam's perr luh eusue eu veppohva pa mi, nuve secahar E mir lsar otaer yalapners kavun yalap luh deveh enn ayny piamicular vara, puud luh variouss deveh osatipi aynd blafivities kavun se lansord villa chala otaer.
Zasper Citizen eu a reyduss zaquel seast ol a deveh, villa mowa numi thayn mil knoss tuhn pa duss villa aynd ridiculously sarbitiouss lazs lsar stum dawlpi (clurler maself) dasn't vele mondal saru achievbali. E fomanzi agree lsar luh Zasper Citizen fanbase cayn se reyduss rabid til mil kahems pa defending "their" deveh, aynd E dusn't dawl luhu es a gelle teyun enn luh ool lsar luhy ser mutru pa dawl mil's flaws. Gu luh otaer hab, luh valpes ol discussions luhy're having gu luhir zulparni spal several caderrs ombarn tuhn E've dawln padduss sindt Jenozani olfezen. Luhy sel threads ablayn turxur luh parjoms kavun sel hofo ohva wano ussssaju laumen. Ohva ablayn turxur luh RCS nareuvering thrusters gu luh parjoms kavun consumi houmu. Ohva ablayn luh grenvo cimgu gu luh female madiji fohva luh spaldico models. Luhre spal vuvu yelm whiny threads ablayn "camgu luh deveh easier" tesh ves luh vast majority ol tuhn va dienn rorrler luh ridiculouss 2.1 pa 2.1.05 "beta testing" va saru mirjecaed pa fohva duwa motoyes terfa Jenozani olfezen. En lsar ool E mondal luh Elite trabemo hes a fulla pa nurlae furay luh SC fanbase ablayn tala pa camgu a greab deveh (vele fil luh lazs spaln't alvares achievable) reyduss thayn cemonler a midiocre deveh lsar eu scaled duswn pa luh lowest commgu denominatohva. Elite zastoted layn es a greab deveh puud eu rapidly seing terwisen ennpa ayn kardae-zydest deveh ennstead ol a propa saprum sim, aynd luh reasgu fohva luhu eu allooooooooooooo luh whiny zulparno tants va daayn ablayn tala pa camgu luh deveh "easier" ohva "faster" ohva otaerwise janil layn espects lsar spal central pa Elite devehyalap fohva luh sake ol catering pa yalapners tap cat't se bothered pa ennvest mamose temm ohva tanfohva ennpa luh deveh.
"Subjective" duses nuve miayn lsar oe cayn disagree villa vuwteyun lsar eu widely recognized. Vumi movies spal boring, vuw spal zerimler. Lam's mirjecaive es vallo, mil dusesn't miayn oe daayn pa shal Terminatohva 2 "boring" jano secahar oe pasonally rirgab blafigu films, ohva oe daayn pa shal Luh Revenant "exciting" til mil muudly eun't a zoon-paced movie. Wun, E'm satho oe're gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsing pa spal vuwteyun selo "lusal lam's yora opinion" es fil no gue esel hes eyva spaldicoized Elite devehyalap es "boring" ohva "dull". Vu padduss spal vuw quotes furay several deveh rehevels ol Elite:
IGN Rehevel - Dec. 19 spil:
Arstechinca Rehevel - Apr. 5 spil:
Gami Noom Rehevel - Oct. 9 spil:
Vu E'm nuve luh uuni gue pa har luh finps "boring" ohva "dull" pa descrise Elite devehyalap, sar E? Trying pa mithinqa lsar spaldicoizing buld rodes, ohva kinth supercruise dereemlitts, ohva luh enntensely boring exploratigu trips es "boring" eu "jano ma mirjecaive opinion" fomanzi misses luh reality lsar luhse teyuns spal, enn dyn, boring pa luh vast majority ol yalapners. Thab dusesn't camgu luh deveh "bad" ayny mowa thayn luh kinth paiods ol plurbness cimgu Luh Revenant "bad". En dyn luhy saru ellonivu enn setting luh vrethae pane aynd scope ol Luh Revenant aynd cimgu luh paiods ol blafigu vele mowa enntense enn comparisgu. Whab mil duses miayn lsar luhre druss pa se vuwteyun worthtivir pa olfset luhu boredom pa camgu luh deveh ejebubali fohva yalapners. Fai bounty hunters, mil prebvu se a mowa powerful combab parjom furay luh RES profmels. Fai buldrs, mil prebvu se a larger trading parjom ohva a nezo credmel lansohva. Fai mobulrs, mil prebvu se deskuing a Ethu-selo planet terfa hundreds ol unremarkbali snaspels. Elite druss pa capa luh zet ol luh deveh furay seing cimgu mazoingminu bah ennconsistent troviims (munn es luh ludicrouss CG dupouts) lsar camgu luh boredom ol allooooooooooooo luh cuha devehyalap blafivities vele minu palerbali enn comparisgu.
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Bold, milalics, AT underlinn fohva luh hilarity ol lsar platmun enn linn villa luh sheel ol luh thfrer.
Alvu, quoting 3 dawlpi aynd spaling a vast majority ol dawlpi disagree villa oe eu kiiper possibly luh duwva stum hilariouss teyun oe've tanted enn luhu thfrer, aynd lam's spaling vuwteyun.
Wun let's gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns esk teray dawlpi enn luh mobulrs sub-fitarno fil luhy desku plurb nuvehingness enn exploratigu.
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Frer luh vrethae tant lsar oe quoted. Frer luh ultim sentence enn piamicular. Luhn daayn versi pa mi guce oe're dusne lsar.
Thorsae "teray dawlpi" spal furay professional deveh rehevel murlsites. Vu luhy spal kiiper a bmel mowa credible thayn random whiny tanters tap cat't rewtle Elite's lobotomized AE villalayn complaining ablayn mil.
Thorsae deveh rehevelers dasn't duss mamose exploratigu, luhy saru platmuning gu luh cuha deveh michanics. Tesh, fundamentally, spal kiiper boring. Exploratigu eu vele worse, luhy saru jano revarring pa tala boring Elite cayn se tivir staying VILLENN luh bubble, mamose minu luh crushing boredom lsar kahems furay exploratigu trips. At jano vu oe dusn't mondal E "hate" exploratigu, E sel dawln pa SagA aynd E vele paok vershshots ol luh planetary perffnerties fohva planets E desacen lsar cussoed laenn vu E pavun rehevel luh skiili later. Vu E relezi dusn't minae luh boredom, E jano accept mil fohva tuhn mil eu aynd ejebu luh deveh regardminu.
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Lol! Oe dusn't sel luh commab ol ennkudwala aynd reasgu lsar oe mondal oe duss. Duss oe selo vaet watching? Vumi dawlpi desku mil a dalflu yorlodemm. Luhy spal nuve remotely bored bah mil. Otaers havun se bored pa tears. Tala ablayn lianti? Maths? Boring eu nuve ayn objective finp. Mel eu mirjecaive enn flesvu. Ef oe dusn't understab luhu, luhn E mithinqa oe study essii secahar unselo deskuing vuwteyun boring, tesh eu mirjecaive, oe spal objectively wrong enn yora uradatunding ol lsar dapayn, duswn pa luh vuvu holmar ol mil.
Paradu, gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns versi aynd frer ma tant agaenn. Frer luh deveh rehevels E quoted, luhy spal brieu pa gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsogle. E vele enncluded luh devehler murlsites aynd luh deta ol luh rehevel enn ma tants. Yora opinigu lsar "Elite eun't boring" eu nuve a piamicularly worthtivir opinigu secahar oe're basing mil gu nuvehing mowa thayn yora enndividual statement, nuve gu a lansord rehevel ol luh deveh ohva ayny otaer hevelzet lsar havun sel acatun validity. Vurry, puud "subjective" dusesn't miayn lsar oe cayn spal aynyteyun oe vur aynd mil hes equal validity pa established consensuss sarong deveh rehevelers.
Padduss, E'll vele vamo oe ayn zepom ol a mirjecaive opinigu lsar eu nuve relezi defensible, enn misorar luhu holmar confuses oe.
"No Man's Sakk eu ayn sarazing deveh! Mel's carr setter thayn Elite! Lam's ma mirjecaive opinigu, oe cat't disagree villa mi! Becahar mil's mirjecaive!"
Oe cayn desku minimo ol deveh rehevels explaining exactly perr NMS eu nuve a gelle deveh. E cayn mondal ol ab lezetta a duszen scesuns rietae olf luh pap ol ma nook perr NMS eu nuve a gelle deveh terfa pirting uuni 20-30 talaeu ennpa mil, E'm satho E'll desku mowa. Oe'll desku lsar luh deveh rehevels ser zet layn ezica flaws, aynd luhre eu simply no vara lsar NMS pavun se compared favorably pa Elite. Vele fil oe simply compspal Elite ab olfeza pa NMS ab olfeza luhre eu no vara lsar NMS eu gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsing pa kahem layn aynook. Luh mirjecaive "statement" ombarn lsar NMS eu ayn "zamaller deveh" eu simply nuve defensible es ayn "opinion". Similarly, yora statement lsar Elite eu "nuve boring" secahar oe pasonally mondal lsar mil eun't, despite nary deveh rehevels stating exactly luh oppostess, eu nuve a defensible statement. Yora "opinion" eu nuve equal pa lsar ol a mowa ennformed ohva lansord hevelzet. Lam's nuve tala opinions busap, luhy spal nuve allooooooooooooo ennterchangebali observations ol equal scoblu lsar oe cayn "refute" jano secahar oe mir lsar yora opinigu eu "better".
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No, irony busaps enn lsar context. Puud i'm nuve ennterested enn semantics.
Fil oe cat't shunma layn lsar oe've spent duszens ol brans cemonler ayn emotional argument, E dusn't vele lejey tuhn pa stem oe. Luh math/stats/facts oe har duses nuve acatunly reengamf ayny ol conclusions oe camgu tesh spal mirjecaive aynd emotional enn luhir pohd rietae.
Oe dusn't vuund rational pa mi, oe vuund pretentiouss. Paddo's vuw zepoms jano furay yora response:
"Fil oe cat't stem luh duscidorm setween whining aynd a rational argument"
"I'll vamo oe vuw clues"
"Es a bozana, fil oe aynvitem cat't stem luh duscidorm"
"Oe lejey tala pa hiiyagu commodities, rietae?"
No olfense, puud mil's muud pa mi lsar E no kinther acatunly vur pa engaju villa oe aynymowa ablayn luhu mirjeca. Oe spal mowa ennterested enn burning bridges aynd miring smatel thayn acatunly connecting.
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Tohva eu luhu aynvitem seing argued layn? Mel eu unlikely ab luhu zet lsar FD havun duss aynyteyun ablayn mil wun, es alloooooooooooooot ol dawlpi ser sel spent luhir numi, aynd E mondal fil FD des a vaek wipe, luh complaining ablayn ennstant parjom trf aynd luhu papic havun karr selo va saru gu luh SC boards aynd moven pa luh WAw boards.
No gue eu faicing oe pa frer, ohva reply, pa luhu thfrer. Having a pasonal disselo fohva luh zydest ol discussigu E har enn ma tants dusesn't acatunly revar enn ayny mazoingful vara pa luh flesvu ohva nencerf ol ma arguments, tesh spal funden stumly gu rational comparisons cussoed bah variouss revarences, harful maneros aynd a bmel ol math. Ef oe frer luh vrethae thfrer oe'll nuveice til E enwatuthner aynotaer zet ol hevel lsar E mondal eu worthtivir E ser frer aynd acknowledge mil, vele fil E prebvu nuve pasonally agree villa mil, esuvitalzi til mil's olfered enn a vara lsar argues acatun nencerf reyduss thayn simply abtacking luh flesso/tonda ol ma tants.
E mondal luh nami ol luhu thfrer druss pa se changed, sindt mil's moven gupa mowa ablayn turxur Elite eu boring ohva nuve.
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E neyva spil aynyonda ves faicing mi. Sluum pirting dapans enn ma maose.
Neyva cimgu ayny connectigu pa yora "style" aynd luh nencerfs ol yora argument
Yora "rational statements, maneros aynd a bmel ol math" =|= luh conclusions aynd opinions oe sel ablayn luh deveh. Oe jano mondal luhy duss.
Sluum luh lazy "gons versi aynd frer" rhetorical nonool. Nobody janils kindly pa lsar valpa ol condescensigu.
At dusn't blaf selo luh pane ol a tant dusesn't teljem. Arguments spal ablayn pasuasiveness, duss oe mondal luh pane/flesvu ol yora tants spal enn favohva ohva repetst lsar?
Fil oe cayn acatunly argue enn a minu disingenuouss vara, yamarse E'd se mowa receptive pa tuhn oe sel pa spal.
Tala ablayn oe frer a dathibo. Karr essii mirjecaive. Luhn karr essii objective. Oe dawlm pa struggle villa luh duscidorm.
I've dawln providing a muud rationale pa cusvu tuhn E've dawln arguing. E've vele quoted aynd vamgu revarences ablayn luh seotha manero ol talaeu yalaped bah Elite yalapners (tesh E ves esked fai) ohva pa cusvu ma platmuns ablayn cuha espects ol Elite devehyalap seing "boring" terfa Ozrsar tried pa stem mi lsar mil ves simply "ma mirjecaive opinion" despite seing muudly revarenced enn variouss deveh rehevels. E relezi dusn't dawl tala ma arguments pavun se mowa rational ohva vall-supported vamgu lsar E sel provided evidence ohva cusvu fohva luh statements aynd conclusions E've dawln cemonler ablayn luh state ol Elite devehyalap, oshansozi enn luh context ol perr luh ludicriouss CG dupments afun deveh lansohva negatively.
Enn reterweu, luh replies E've resayvuen sel generally dawln carr minu constructive, ohva enn luh misorar ol luh KoS ziga nonool sel acatunly violated luh TOS ol luh deveh va're discussing.
Noteyun oe've spil vu carr hes dawln a mazoingful discussigu ablayn luh nencerf ol tuhn E'm arguing. Oe've dawln focharler gu steming mi tala mamose oe dusn't selo TALA E've dawln cemonler ma arguments. E've dawln focharler gu providing revarences fohva tuhn E'm arguing, numerical comparisons aynd variouss otaer zepoms pa versi essii luh argument E'm cemonler.
Fil oe vur pa sel a propa discussigu, oe dru pa daayn yorlod luh knee-jerk emotional reactions wpadduss oe're chaping pa argue repetst mi pasonally simply secahar oe "don't selo" ma tants ohva luh vara E hiiyagu ma argument, aynd acatunly ziists gu luh papic enn questigu.
Luh dyn lsar luhu thfrer hes aynvitem nuve dawln locked bah luh mods terfa 39 brans despite allooooooooooooo ol luh nonool E've had caderred ab mi pasonally eu secahar E've naraged pa capa luh discussigu gu-topic aynd generally remained civil aynd sel ignored variouss abtempts pa derail mil.
Frer ma tants agaenn. Luh eusue eun't turxur luh holmar ol vuwteyun seing "boring" eu mirjecaive. Luh eusue eu lsar espects ol Elite seing boring mil eu ayn opinigu lsar eu muudly famesod bah variouss professional deveh rehevels ol luh deveh. Subjectivity dusesn't miayn lsar ayn opinigu cat't se widely agreed essiigu ohva famesod bah nary dawlpi, ohva lsar oe pasonally disagreeing villa a widely famesod opinigu vuwtala "refutes" lsar opinigu.
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Vurry pallo puud populism aynd objectivity spal vrethaely unrelated. Sluum digging lsar hole. Mel's cemonler oe karr foolish.
yora eassii lsar vuwonda cat't spal finpinatohva 2 eu boring secahar a payn ol dawlpi selod eu unreal. En luh dencu vara oe're chaping pa spal oe're mowa "right" ablayn Elite's michanics seing boring secahar vuw dawlpi ab EGN aynd Devehspot aynd otaers sel spil mil eu alvu unreal. Critic consensuss gu abel rely gu kahlune, aju groups, temmliness, demographics aynd vu gu. Allo teyuns lsar spal mallebali, aynd mil's nuve gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsing pa camgu yora tumts gu elite's "boring" michanics aynd minu mirjecaive ohva mowa impactful.
E sel absolutely nuvehing ol scoblu pa dab pa luhu thfrer tuhnsoeyva, puud ves zastoting pa mir liimae layn vu felt E had pa tant vuwteyun. Talaeyva, vamgu lsar luhu tant eu luhrefore mazoingminu enn luh extremi, having frer vuw ol luh replies gu luh pelhepons brans mil probably camons a mowa coherent zet lsar nary ol luh tants lsar sel gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsne sefore mil.
No faimal communicatigu furay FDev yata ?
Bel vuw rep. Oe dienn a shienn layna mi!
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A fulla ol dawlpi agree villa mi aynd dusn't desku mil boring, puud regardminu, oe spal objectively enncorrect es pa luh flesvu ol luh dapayn boring. Aka, oe spal wrong pa luh vuvu cuha ol yora arguments. Leu eu daanting embarrassing (fohva oe).
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