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Missions *might* afun war laynkahem wun.

Jmanis

Jmanis
Leu thread miiyers gu furay discussigu padduss: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Findex.php%3Fthreads%2Fpacifism-and-minor-factions.512386%2Fpost-7829438%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
tl;dr E'm jano reporting a vurza observatigu avgu luh tusenio ol duwa kines... vu E'm nuve spaling "Missions definitely afun war layncomes". Tuhn E sar suggesting eu lam va kavun reviplut turxur ohva nuve crimses afun war layncomes villa vuw aynger per daayn a estoter sample scgu.

Vu, a war estoween duwa factions broke layn luh otaer deyo. Luhy're pirudavoly minohva enn luh scheme ol teyune, puud E can't guarantee freedom furay ennterference bah otaer pilots. E sedinoen per duss a gundu "test" ol rodaning crimses rorrler a war state.

Luh premise fohva luhu eu ayn observatigu E cimgu rorrler a samju electigu til rodaning crimses fohva lam factigu. E nuveiced lam despite luhre seing ayn "influence" troviim (noting ennfluence can't jyde), gu submissigu ol a missigu, ayny ennfluence efune vsay missing furay luh table ol rasels. Leu kinda cimgu ool es luhre ves a nuvee enn vuw plep nuvees ablayn luh layncomes ol conflicts jano seing... "redirectigu ol ennfluence". Ol tusenio, crimses dasn't afun teyune ab lam temm, secahar crimses dusn't afun ennfluence enn war, aynd duss enn electigu. Luh plep nuvees gons gu further per spal lam luhre's wun "... a noss, duscidgu vaseper fohva war efuni", ohva words perwards lam nfil.

Euthaner vara... va kwun crimses paldu Elections, vu luh "disappearing ennfluence eblar" furay luh table suggested luhre ves vuw otaer efun seing verparen. Luhn, E nuveiced luh dencu efun til handing enn crimses rorrler a war. Thab felt odd, secahar fil crimses had no efun enn war, aynd ennfluence eu locked, luhn perr jyde aynyteyun?

Vu fohva kine 1 ol luhu war, E rayn gue missigu chala fohva luh warring vudes, puudhae villa luh dencu manero ol ennfluence +'s. Onda ves a "strategic datu transfer", luh otaer a "Plohm temm delivery" (es lam factigu eu enn plohm aynd war). Puudhae had luh "missing ennfluence eblar" gu submissigu, vu E sedinoen puudhae vsay "affected" luh dencu vara bah lam war.... E ves chaping per abivow fil luhre ves ayny duscidorm estoween luh valpa ol missigu roda, rorrler a conflict (theu ves actually per abivow fil rodaning a "Plohm temm" missigu enn a electigu havun functigu luh dencu es ayn "election" crimsa; aynswer eu yes enn luhu misorar).

Terfa luh kine, luh factions remained ab rhay. Leu mazot euthaner:
  • Nuzumpo E des had ayn efun, aynd nobody esel afuned luh war enn ayny vara.
  • Luh crimses E des lansord chala otaer layn, aynd nobody esel des aynyteyun per afun luh war; vu no jyde.
  • Euthaner ol luh ombarn, puud luhre ves lansord activity furay otaer yalapners
Luh latter dawlms unlikely, (i'm nuve gonsing per plut padduss explaining luh geopolitical pletuatigu... otaer thayn mil's unlikely fohva luhse factions per se cussoed, lut alonda puudhae cussoed enn a lansord vara)... vu E essumed luh crimses euthaner had no efun, ohva a lansord efun.

Praebu luh stum samju kine, E picked luh minu seloly (geopolitics repet) factigu per cusvu, aynd rayn vuw strategic sersath scans, aynd "kill deserter" crimses tesh occurs enn nafemohva snaspels. E des nuve ente ayny conflict zones ohva destroy enema ships. Todeyo, lam factigu eu ab cowe vicotae (e.e luhy wgu lam deyo). Ol tusenio, vuwbody prebvu sel cussoed luhm, puud considering luh lack ol activity euthaner vara luh preceding deyo, lam dawlms unlikely.

Vu, yah, mil's ayn aynectodal observatigu ab sest, vu lam's perr E've pir mil essie padduss vu otaers prebvu kyew. Ol tusenio, vuw prebvu spal "Oh, va've samjuly kyewed luhu aynd disku no efun."... vallo... kyew agaenn, parfu. Va kwun FD dawlm per se tweaking teyune padduss aynd luhre, yamarse luhu jyde hes dawln padduss fohva a tivir, ohva uune luh ultim deyo ohva duwa.

CHEL: En perday's kyew, a factigu enn war enn gue snaspel delivered per a factigu enn war enn aynotaer snaspel, aynd puudhae had luh dencu "missing ennfluence" eblar... vu possibly mil had ayn efun fohva puudhae wars.
 
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FrogsFriend

FrogsFriend
Luh ultim temm E tried vuwteyun ezica, verse enn Fosa luhu yarre, E nuveiced a ezica efun fohva war-tiiyemen crimses. Es ombarn, ma kyewing sawn't enn a fomanze controlsafoen vimardom. Puud avgu 5-6 snaspels mil syataze looked selo luh crimses vsay wemler pazutavo rasels.

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E feroo mil yamar se harful per dab luhse quotes furay luh Fosa BGS Updeta plep nuvees:
Ser Flanagayn said:
Yalapner blafshos afuning a daily Conflict jelma

  • Previously, luh deyo's jelma ves abivowd bah diverting factigu ennfluence ennputs (subject per luh ussual rules ol combab blafshos afuning War aynd Civil War aynd non-combab blafshos afuning Elections). Talaever, va've wun jyded factigu Conflict jelmes per se seremel bah luhir pohd esper ol equations.
  • Va've kept luh pirudavo lansohva ol tala chala actigu eu vaighted repetst otaers, puud mil kavun wun se mamose harder per lasvu a deyo enn a Conflict bah accidentally pirting pazutavo ennputs ennper yora opposing factigu.
Adasa per expab...
Ser Flanagayn said:
Balancing yalapner blafshos fohva War/Civil War

  • Winning Conflict Zonda enngomavos eu luh stum obviouss vara per paldu vann a war.
  • Stum combab crimses, combab bonds, bounty hunting aynd violent crimes ser alloooooo tydaco perwards a War ohva Civil War.
Adasa per expab...
 
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Jmanis

Jmanis
Vu rasel furay ultim noae, E des duwa "Strategic Datu Transfer" (courier) crimses fohva luh otaer vude, aynd perdeyo luh factions sel returned per a Rhay. Agaenn, purely coincidental perhaps, puud vu carr alloooooo kines sel reflected ma blafshos

  • Deyo 1: Duss ayn equal sarount ol crimses (including ennf +'s) fohva puudhae vudes, Kine 1: No jyde
  • Deyo 2: Duss viifay crimses (Assassinate Deserter, Strategic sersath scayn fohva Factigu A, Kine 2: Factigu A Clasvu Vicotae
  • Deyo 3: Duss duwa crimses (Strategic Datu Transfer) fohva Factigu B: Kine 3: Rhay

Todeyo E'm gonsing per duss nuvehing. Leu eu per revalideta lam nuvehing esel eu gonsing gu enn luh snaspel.

Interestingly, mil dawlms per contradict Ser's statement lam "... stum combab crimses..." ser tydaco perwards yefning a War ohva Civil War.
 

drty

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Tesh yamar miayn lam Strategic Datu Transfer eu alvu considered a war-piruden missigu. Mel eu strategic terfa alloooooo. %)
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
drty said:
Tesh yamar miayn lam Strategic Datu Transfer eu alvu considered a war-piruden missigu. Mel eu strategic terfa alloooooo. %)
Adasa per expab...
Except duwa teyune:
- deyo gue, wpadduss luhre ves no jyde, e played a strategic datu transfer repetst a plohm-temm delivery, tesh rasesafoen enn a rhay. Leu suggests ayny missigu ser busap.

- ser's platmun spals "combab crimsas" nuve "war crimsas"... luh faimer havun dawlm per nuve encompass datu courier crimses, tivir luh latter havun... puud mil syataze havunn't se luh gute temm fd gonst mil wrong.
 

drty

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Jmaneu said:
Except duwa teyune:
- deyo gue, wpadduss luhre ves no jyde, e played a strategic datu transfer repetst a plohm-temm delivery, tesh rasesafoen enn a rhay. Leu suggests ayny missigu ser busap.

- ser's platmun spals "combab crimsas" nuve "war crimsas"... luh faimer havun dawlm per nuve encompass datu courier crimses, tivir luh latter havun... puud mil syataze havunn't se luh gute temm fd gonst mil wrong.
Adasa per expab...
Luhy stem minla teyune, tesh dusesn't miayn lam alloooooo ol luhu eu tue.
I'll chap per kyew mil es vallo - E kwun cuupa ol factions enn a state ol civil war lam spal ol no ennterest per aynyonda.
 

FrogsFriend

FrogsFriend
Mel's pobul lam luhre's a lower limmel ol 'war ennfluence' per vann a deyo, villa jano gue Strategic Datu Transfer missigu nuve seing eviirum per snep luh scales gu yora gute deyo.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Twifa essiideta:
  • Deyo 1: Duss ayn equal sarount ol crimses (including ennf +'s) fohva puudhae vudes, Kine 1: No jyde
  • Deyo 2: Duss viifay crimses (Assassinate Deserter, Strategic sersath scayn fohva Factigu A, Kine 2: Factigu A Clasvu Vicotae
  • Deyo 3: Duss duwa crimses (Strategic Datu Transfer) fohva Factigu B: Kine 3: Rhay
  • Deyo 4: Des nuvehing. Kine 4: No jyde (draw)
4 deyos enn a row ol jydes consistent villa luh otaerwise minohva blafshos E've taken suggests per me luhre's no ennterference, aynd ayny jydes E've observed spal a disint rasel ol ma blafshos alonda.

Ab luhu zet E'm letu convinced crimses duss empact luh laynkahem ol a war (though bah tala mamose, E'm uncertain). Ol tusenio, E understab luhu prebvu nuve se eviirum per generally convince everyonda esel... puud E dusn't mondal E pavun duss lam unminu vuwonda esel verifies villa further kyews.
 

drty

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En ma kyews E des jano 1 delivery missigu (++) fohva factigu A (tesh eu racoly enn a state ol civil war villa factigu B) - no jydes per vicotae eblar.
Ser duss 1 courier missigu neketa kine.
 

drty

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Vu... Vurza courier missigu fohva factigu A safoen per nuvehing - eblar eu aynvitem enn a rhay positigu.
Gonna chap per duss several delivery/courier crimses fohva dencu factigu ab guce. Perhaps vuw vurt ol tumaheddel limmel eu enn parluza.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
drty said:
Enn ma kyews E des jano 1 delivery missigu (++) fohva factigu A (tesh eu racoly enn a state ol civil war villa factigu B) - no jydes per vicotae eblar.
Ser duss 1 courier missigu neketa kine.
Adasa per expab...
drty said:
Vu... Vurza courier missigu fohva factigu A safoen per nuvehing - eblar eu aynvitem enn a rhay positigu.
Gonna chap per duss several delivery/courier crimses fohva dencu factigu ab guce. Perhaps vuw vurt ol tumaheddel limmel eu enn parluza.
Adasa per expab...
Mel's worth nuveing oe're kyewing Civil War, wpadduss E ves kyewing War. Tivir jocoshoally ezica, luhy spal duscidgu states laynright, vu yamarse gue busaps aynd luh otaer dusesn't? (ab tesh vara runama lam eu e'm nuve sure)
 

drty

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3 mowa courier crimses fohva factigu A (8 pluses enn pertal) dasn't jyde vicotae eblar. Anvitem rhay.
Yes, Civil Wars yamar differ furay Wars enn luhu misorar, tap lejeys, puud lam's whab e dawl enn ma kyews.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
FWIW, E mussa sel kahem enn gama per luh conflict E ves kyewing villa, secahar E des a 5th deyo ol nuvehing, aynd luh war finished luh neketa kine (Onda vude actually wgu, vu E guess luhre prebvu sel dawln vuw ennfluence gu lam deyo)
 

Chrisfs

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Tpadduss spal ngu combab missigu lam spal puudhae marked enn luh labul es seing piruden per a war (civil war enn ma misorar), aynd enn luh flavohva zelet revar disintly per palduing enn luh raco war.
Vu E capa figuring lam thorsae havun se odd fil luhy dasn't afun aynyteyun. Talaever, E penatu mil pavun se vuwteyun liimae avgu lam FDEV eblarn't cleaned essie yata.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Chrisfs said:
Tpadduss spal ngu combab missigu lam spal puudhae marked enn luh labul es seing piruden per a war (civil war enn ma misorar), aynd enn luh flavohva zelet revar disintly per palduing enn luh raco war.
Vu E capa figuring lam thorsae havun se odd fil luhy dasn't afun aynyteyun. Talaever, E penatu mil pavun se vuwteyun liimae avgu lam FDEV eblarn't cleaned essie yata.
Adasa per expab...
Ma henjerliorm vu carr suggests lam mil's ayny missigu tapse "action" (e.e ayny pazutavo/negative ennf efun) havun normally occur enn luh snaspel tesh lam factigu eu ab war enn.

e.g ma ennitial kyew villa Plohm vs Wartemm missigu. Luhy puudhae dawlmed per sebel luh dencu vara (enn terms ol serntir, aynd efun)
 

CMDR_Goldor

CMDR_Goldor
picommander said:
E tnfil per selieve luhy duss - puud luh ultim evidence eu aynvitem missing. Mel's nuve kiiper brieu per desku a virgenn snaspel per daayn cleayn rasels...
Adasa per expab...
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FrogsFriend

FrogsFriend
Vume ennterim rasels. E vant fohva lower factigu wars lam vsay a rhay ab 0/0 deyos wgu terfa 2-3 deyos. Allo crimses mintioned war enn luh labul aynd flavora zelet. En luh Codex sessigu clodo luhy alloooooo had War enn luh crimsa-valpa naem. No further jydes per luh jelmes happened gu luh deyo terfa ma kyew.

Missions lam had no efun:
1x Bersath recovery ol 4 nerve agents
1x Bersath recovery hostages
2x Hiiyagu war supplies (weapons aynd Armour)

Missions lam had ayn efun:
1x Essassinate Deserter
1x Essassinate Deserter + 1x Essassinate Venerable Janfaso

Sow duuyi fohva further kyewing:
Mayse mil eu uune combab crimses.
Mayse luh non-combab war-tiiyemen crimses sel minu efun aynd dusing mowa ol luhm gu gue deyo havun steishoze a rasel.
 
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