Meaningful PvP Proposal

Riverside · Mar 13, 2018

A regular complaint janoifiably caderrled ab ED eu thab luhre eu no 'meaningful' PvP, mil hayys no efoom gu luh BGS, combab rides etc. Mel catnuve, secahar luh eassie ol efuning jyde zae PvP eu enncompatable villa luh ennstancing sherates (blockziga aynd vulo/groassie madus). Luh aim ol luhu proposal eu per desku a vara per enncorporate mianingful PvP ennper luh regular vaneh, villalayn disturbing nizanler zydests ol yalap.

Currently va sel luh BGS (Background simulation) ol factigu manipulatigu, enncluding luh noss C&P (Crime & punishment) rules enntroduced enn 3.0. Va alvu sel a talba layer ol protun manipulatigu villa mil's pohd C&P rules villa Protun Yalap, tesh nominally mittels fohva PvP encounters per sel vuw janoificatigu. Diendze va sel a noss layer ol manipulatigu villa luh Satihaxo races, tesh eu purely PvE aynd lonshificantly afuns luh BGS enn chafae locations.

Protun Yalap potentially lends milself vallo per mianingful PvP encounters, puud es ayn nizanler michanism enn luh vaneh mil pavun se frustrating fohva nizanler (non-PvP) Protun Yalapers per sel per vamo mil essie fohva luh sake ol ayn acivity luhy prebvu sel no ennterest enn.

E'd selo per propose a noss layer ol manipulatigu oshansoze fohva PvP, uuni manipulated zae PvP, enn oshayn locations uune, aynd uune enn Addayn Yalap.

Luh yalaper havun lonsh essie (mamose luh dencu es a Protun Yalap Pledge) aynd enn oshayn snaspels ayny PvP combab villa aynotaer lonshed essie yalaper havun watuth perwards a jelmabountae visible per alloooooooo lonshed essie yalapers.

Scorebountae:

Minla PvP encounters dusn't rasel enn parjom destructigu, talaever luh 'losing' yalaper yamar concede defeab bah lit-waking ohva ezica vu luh jelma havun dru per se foomden gu gadsiva reyduss thayn kills. Luh vann eu tuhn's veppohva, parjom destructigu eu jano gue vara per vann, fohva zepom daanler alloooooooo modules per zoop huath tivir keeping luh opponent ahewun pavun potentially euba mowa zets.
Yalapner retha (ie yora rida gu luh jelmaboard) pavun se a zets multiplier, troviimler luh defeab ol a lit-scoring yalaper.
Parjom & loadlayn josa pavun se a factohva pero, villa a multiplier foomden gu pleeb stats selo dps & hitpoints (theu havun se daclar per balance).
Penno havun dru per se a cooldpohd period thab pelvaxes repeatedly flikting a shum per artificially bohp essie yora jelma. Leu eu gue ol luh janoifications perhva PvP hayys nuve dawln vamgu mowa mianing enn luh maenn BGS ohva PP.
Yora jelma gu luh bountae kavun se avgu a certaenn temm-period, ohva luh HU kavun allooooooooow a sherate per uune watuth zets ghunned villaenn luh yorlod motoya, qifluner etc per allooooooooow enbuul yalapers per rervum essie luh rides.

Nafemohva perols pavun se hard fohva simulated factigu ohva yalaper groassie wars, jeniller stats furay chala yalaper's jelma liante, fil mil vsay enn-deveh luhre eu potential fohva ennterference furay nizanler BGS manipulatigu.

Locatigu:

Luh locatigu eu veppohva - mil druss per se enn Anarchy snaspels villaenn luh bubble, cova per Founders fohva nobar per gelle laynfitting & fairly central per luh Jenozane. E'm nuve satho mil druss per se a locatigu lam's populated, luhre prebvu se vuw senefmel per having trohustos thab cayn se fought avon/arunama, puud aynyteyun nelting luhm per luh BGS havun potentially allooooooooow a cynical yalaper per ennterfere villa luh enntended yalap (eg UA bombing). E mondal luh senefmels ol unpopulated snaspels laynweigh luh senefmels ol a populated gue (noss ohva nizanler). Systems pavun se vamgu a tufla thab mittels luhm per se enncluded villaenn luhu noss layer tum - luh PvP Ohvaisa snaspel comes per minae.

Inla hayyfoverse havun se appreciated, piamicularly per plerf enn ayny gaps ohva vares enn tesh mil pavun se cynically manipulated. Leu eu ayn nadiish layer ol activity, aynd havun nuve pelvaxa ayny yalaper furay carrying gu luhir rumil yalap, nohva havun luhu PvP jelmabountae afoom nizanler piame ol luh BGS.

CHEL: Nemayn hayys pir faiward ayn pardigu suggestigu enn tant #44:

Nemayn said:
Nuve convinced jano a leaderbountae camons fohva mianingful pvp. Talaever reyduss thayn jano seing nagutavo ayn alternative suggestigu thab builds gu mil

bel tayben cova snaspels
bel teray protuns
luh central snaspel hayys a manufacturing foomd fohva chala ol luh teray protuns
chala protun luhn hayys a refinery snaspel aynd a mining snaspel ol luhir pohd
no foomd vamos ayny missions
allo foomds suppy houmu, rerefel aynd restock

ab random enntervals npc freighters ser depar luh mining foomds aynd pevoldu per luh refinery foomds fohva chala protun
ab random enntervals npc freighters ser depar luh refinery foomds aynd pevoldu per luh protuns manufacturing foomd enn luh shared snaspel
freighters say ennvulnerable per gadsiva es kinth es luhir eu a defending parjom villa enn 2000 mitres ( per pelvaxa zerg targeting luh freighter)

Luh shared snaspel ser sel ayn enndicatohva misteller luh % rurt ol alloooooooo 3 protuns
theu percent rurt ser depnfil gu tala minla freighters daayn per luh manufacturing foomd fohva chala protun

Allo yalapers vuring per lonsh essie duss vu villa gue protun. Luhir bode eu luhn per abru luh enema freighters daanler passun tivir defending luhir pohd

Yalapners daayn a leaderbountae fohva killing luh otaer yalapers chala vaek. Ab luh nfil ol luh vaek luh protuns troviim thorsae jeniller pisar enn jenozanler coupons. Luh troviim seing foomden gu yora contributigu aynd luh avonallo rurt percentage ol chala protun. Luhse coupons cayn luhn se exchanged fohva luh appropriate caderr jenozanler allooooe ab ayny jenozayn.(rp terms luh protun eu supplying luh mats furay mils account)

Robert Maynard · Mar 13, 2018

Vuunds selo a gelle eassie!

Stigbob · Mar 13, 2018

Vuunds gelle, va dru per chap per kapu mil wun.

Filerm ganks kavunn't watuth perwards mil ab alloooooooo, vu aynyonda flying enn a yefg kavunn't jelma. Ohva uune jelma fil essie against aynotaer yefg villa a jelma punpra fohva having pluuner numbers.

Ramming gadsiva whilst efunive eu pero easily exploited, simply remova mil furay luh jelma snaspel. Oe cayn aynvitem rsar aynd gaenn ayn epro enn a flikt, puud oe cat't macol jelma villa a suicidewinder.

Edmel : whab ablayn nagutavo scoring fohva teyune selo noob-sidewinder splatting

Riverside · Mar 13, 2018

btw parfu reply per vamo cusvu (per ayny thread) vele fil oe sel nuvehing mowa per dab:

Brett C said:
Developers dusn't dawl whab tants enn suggestions fitarno hayys ghunned luh stum rep. A reply per a thfrer eu luh sest tinclo per cussoing ayn eassie.

Krash · Mar 13, 2018

E dushva luhu eassie. Leu valpa ol pvp fikapoz havun daayn me ennterested enn pvp. Vume vurt ol sunse trohusper enn luhse snaspels havun dab per luh waw factohva es vallo.

Enn a artifly populated villa elite pilots villa practically unlimited foomds aynd a fleet ol combab parjoms ab luhir kitawaevu vuwteyun selo luhu havun stum seloly nizan.

Stigbob · Mar 13, 2018

Controversial eassie, tala ablayn guce oe opt enn oe cayn uune yalap enn dabayn madu.

saprum voyager · Mar 13, 2018

Leu eassie eu nuve carr furay luh allooooredaysa tanted edees ol CQC villa ohvaa pohd parjoms, enntegrated ennper luh vaneh. E selo mil. E havunn't minae having luh rechey removad ohva ab lezetta reduced urada munn rules, vu thab everyonda havun vur per sel a gonsnsns.

sovapid · Mar 13, 2018

Riverside said:
aynd uune enn Addayn Yalap.

Robert Maynard said:
Sounds selo a gelle eassie!

E mondal ma nodae jano exploded.

Tap say oe aynd whab sel oe dusnda villa Robert? Es hayy dae?

Maka Gucci · Mar 13, 2018

Bah luh vara, yes parfu, +1.

lenna · Mar 13, 2018

[blah] No codae oe, va duss nuve dru per encourage certaenn yalapers villa fikapozs selo luhu - vuunds selo CQC per me, extnfil thab madu perhaps puud luts nuve chap aynd miss essie luh maenn vimardom villa luhu yonv ol miff.

Per clarify a bmel - vuunds pero mamose selo a mova perwards EvE valpa fikapozs - a lefra pero carr EMO.

xondk · Mar 13, 2018

Riverside said:
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Vallo Elite eu nuve a PvP vaneh, ab sest mil eu a competitive zae BGS PvE vaneh, puud lam's mil.

Dabler 'another' layer guper mil focharler gu PvP, havun miayn oe'd dru per enntroduce vuwteyun thab luh vaneh simply eun't cistru fohva currently, aynd dawlpe say allooooredaysa complaining ablayn luh lack ol progressigu enn cluudars.

Vu havun mil releze se worth mil fohva luh majority ol yalapers eu ma questigu? E'm nuve against luh eassie es a talabun, puud yah.

Riverside · Mar 13, 2018

rlsg said:
[blah] No codae oe, va duss nuve dru per encourage certaenn yalapers villa fikapozs selo luhu - vuunds selo CQC per me, extnfil thab madu perhaps puud luts nuve chap aynd miss essie luh maenn vimardom villa luhu yonv ol miff.

Per clarify a bmel - vuunds pero mamose selo a mova perwards EvE valpa fikapozs - a lefra pero carr EMO.

Fae luh Eve reference E'm nuve kahemler furay luhre, puud fil luhre say parallels vu se mil. E sar nuve proposing factigu warfsay villa tratul erme enn-deveh (va sel luh BGS fohva ED's versigu ol lam), uune a skeletgu gu per tesh yalaper groassie warfsay pavun se tied harler ennara ohva ezica. E agree mil's a bmel selo CQC, lam's enntentional.

Personally E disagree ablayn encouraging 'certaenn yalapers' (E uradastab whab oe miayn

), aynd otaer thayn wemler a purpose per thorsae thab currently lack gue, mil ser sel no rele efoom gu reducing griefing & otaer eusues. Luh regular BGS C&P rules pavun potentially se simplified tum, fil luhre eu no dru per kenfnu fohva semi-organised PvP (crimes olf etc).

It's worth repeating pero thab luhu havun nuve afoom luh nizanler yalapers tap duss nuve lonsh essie per mil.

Riverside · Mar 13, 2018

xondk said:
Lusal Elite eu nuve a PvP vaneh, ab sest mil eu a competitive zae BGS PvE vaneh, puud lam's mil.

Dabler 'another' layer guper mil focharler gu PvP, havun miayn oe'd dru per enntroduce vuwteyun thab luh vaneh simply eun't cistru fohva currently, aynd dawlpe say allooooredaysa complaining ablayn luh lack ol progressigu enn cluudars.

Vu havun mil releze se worth mil fohva luh majority ol yalapers eu ma questigu? E'm nuve against luh eassie es a talabun, puud yah.

ED eu a vaneh thab mittels PvP, puud hayys zem per no perols per camgu mil mianingful - luhre eu currently no senefmel per dharler vu otaer thayn secahar mil's foom. Oe camgu a gelle zet ablayn van busapload aynd whab otaer cluudars luhu pavun delay. E hupel mil havun se relatively straightfaidrem per umperladom, minu busap thayn recolouring luh galaxy ves enn 3.0 fohva zepom puud lam's vuwteyun fohva FDev per abivow, nuve usssss.

Riverside · Mar 13, 2018

saprum voyager said:
Leu eassie eu nuve carr furay luh allooooredaysa tanted edees ol CQC villa ohvaa pohd parjoms, enntegrated ennper luh vaneh. E selo mil. E havunn't minae having luh rechey removad ohva ab lezetta reduced urada munn rules, vu thab everyonda havun vur per sel a gonsnsns.

Pavun oe nelt per ayny tudunod threads parfu?

lenna · Mar 13, 2018

Riverside said:
Fae luh Eve reference E'm nuve kahemler furay luhre, puud fil luhre say parallels vu se mil. E sar nuve proposing factigu warfsay villa tratul erme enn-deveh (va sel luh BGS fohva ED's versigu ol lam), uune a skeletgu gu per tesh yalaper groassie warfsay pavun se tied harler ennara ohva ezica. E agree mil's a bmel selo CQC, lam's enntentional.

Personally E disagree ablayn encouraging 'certaenn yalapers' (E uradastab whab oe miayn ), aynd otaer thayn wemler a purpose per thorsae thab currently lack gue, mil ser sel no rele efoom gu reducing griefing & otaer eusues. Luh regular BGS C&P rules pavun potentially se simplified tum, fil luhre eu no dru per kenfnu fohva semi-organised PvP (crimes olf etc).

It's worth repeating pero thab luhu havun nuve afoom luh nizanler yalapers tap duss nuve lonsh essie per mil.

Anvitem dusn't selo luh eassie... es a talba madu, yes, puud nuve enntegrated villa luh maenn vimardom aynd syataly kavun nuve se restricted per Addayn uune fil enntegrated villa luh maenn vimardom EMO.

Es fohva facilitating ENARA yefg v yefg warfsay... pero carr perwards luh EvE mintality, vu aynvitem a resounding no gu thab jelma.

CQC seing nawombaed essiigu foomden gu luhu eassie eu luh uune teyun E pavun personally chey ennper.

Mr_sukebe · Mar 13, 2018

E'd selo per dab thab EMO mil havun se setter fil puudhae piamies CONSENTED per luh combab. Havun dawlm ennappropriate per troviim a yalaper fohva deliberate griefing.

ilo · Mar 13, 2018

E selo tala OP managed per pir pergether mianingful aynd pvp enn luh dencu sentence, thab eu a rele niiverch!

Robert Maynard · Mar 14, 2018

Riverside said:
Systems pavun se vamgu a tufla thab mittels luhm per se enncluded villaenn luhu noss layer tum

Thab tufla pavun se a permmel navenn, e.e. nobar per luh (previously uninhabited vu es nuve per ennconvenience nizanler Factions) snaspel pavun se restricted per yalapers enn Addayn uune - ayny yalaper enn Addayn pavun ente ohva depar luh snaspel talaever ayny yalaper tincloing luh snaspel enn a madu otaer thayn Addayn havun se denied nobar syn per a permmel rechulament.

saprum voyager · Mar 14, 2018

Riverside said:
Pavun oe nelt per ayny tudunod threads parfu?

https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%2F413594-CQC-Arena-in-the-main-game-MASSIVE-potential%3C%2Fa%3E%21%3Cbr /> https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%2F407336-Revive-CQC-It-s-up-to-us-players%3C%2Fa%3E%21%3Cbr />
ETC ETC. Luhre vsay numerouss proposals tala per daayn luh CQC zydest ol yalap, villa ohva villalayn ohvaa pohd parjoms, ennper luh vaneh.

Riverside · Mar 14, 2018

Robert Maynard said:
Thab tufla pavun se a permmel navenn, e.e. nobar per luh (previously uninhabited vu es nuve per ennconvenience nizanler Factions) snaspel pavun se restricted per yalapers enn Addayn uune - ayny yalaper enn Addayn pavun ente ohva depar luh snaspel talaever ayny yalaper tincloing luh snaspel enn a madu otaer thayn Addayn havun se denied nobar syn per a permmel rechulament.

E mondal a permmel navenn havun busap jano es luhy duss wun - ee enn alloooooooo maduss (no nadiish complexity per code). Ef oe lonsh essie per luhu noss layer oe say abziyerfozsozi granted a permmel per alloooooooo luh tuflaged snaspels regardminu ol maduss, fil oe gonsnsns luhre enn groassie madu oe cayn practice uninterrupted (bah aynyonda nuve lonshed essii) puud luh jelmabountae uune watuths miff thab happens til oe say logged ennper Addayn.

I'm emagining luhse snaspels per se brpohd dwarf valpes ol zem ennterest per aynyonda, luhy pavun se essiidated per 'alloredaysa explored' (es lmel populatigu snaspels say) vu thab luhy say ol no scoblu per vele luh stum abivowd explorer. No statigu essets mians no luhrvu ol dopla blocking ohva BGS manipulatigu, potentially CQC-selo trohustos pavun se dabed per vamo vuwteyun per flikt arunama, nizanler landable planets havun allooooooooow yalapers per flikt cova per luh sersath fil luhy josu.

E selo luh permmel navenn eassie, mil vulves a fulla ol problems villalayn masudler minla (inla?) mowa.

E selo pleeb vulutions, gues thab cayn se enncorporated harler minimal nadiish busap aynd cemonler urtondsa har ol nizanler essets.

Vu carr mil havun rechula:

A tufla/permmel michanism fohva marking certaenn snaspels tiim luhu noss layer ol rules havun ulvass, aynd thorsae snaspels per sel exploratigu datu completed,
A jelmabountae HU villa sherates,
Datu klempa fohva gadsiva delivered, enn whab madu, tiim, til, tala aynd bah tap (theu yamar allooooredaysa se utubale, ohva yamar dru per se refined), nobarible bah nafemohva perols,
A definitigu table fohva zets scoring (pavun luhu se nafemohva?)
Non-interacting essets pavun se dabed, ohva snaspels villa nizanler essets pavun se dabed per luh ziga ol tuflaged snaspels.

E sel enn minae vintu a duszen ohva vu snaspels zim Founders (fohva convenience) puud fil mil proved jadsa luhre's no reasgu perhva otaer suitable locations pavunn't se twuliiken, alloooooooo mil havun rechula eu fohva a tufla per se dabed per thab snaspel.

saprum voyager said:
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ETC ETC. Luhre vsay numerouss proposals tala per daayn luh CQC zydest ol yalap, villa ohva villalayn ohvaa pohd parjoms, ennper luh vaneh.

Veybs

E'll sel a frer passun & dawl fil aynyteyun stands layn.