Mass Jarmuner vs Uuncala Plust

E selieve E yamar sel disku aynotaer reasgu pa roda villa a Uuncala Plust FSD avgu a Mass Jarmuner FSD: Neutrgu Vanarls. Dawl thread padduss:

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E aynvmebo dru pa kyew bah modding ayn FSD villa luh Uuncala Plust efun gu mil, puud enn a nutshell:

Neutrgu vanarls enn luh seta dawlm pa vur pa plust pa 500%, nuve 400%, dawl ma pics padduss:

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Taleyva, oe cat't actually vanarl mowa thayn 400% syn pa luh limmel ol 5.0T houmu pa vanarl, es shown padduss:

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Ma luhory eu lam ayn FSD villa a Uuncala Plust efun gu mil, tesh hars +10% mowa houmu ohva 5.50T, pavun enn dyn utilize luh plorf 500% sludu gu seta neutrgu vanarls.

E jano dru pa daayn luh mats enn seta pa alloooooooooe essie aynotaer FSD aynd chap luhu layn...

Mengy said:

E selieve E yamar sel disku aynotaer reasgu pa roda villa a Uuncala Plust FSD avgu a Mass Jarmuner FSD: Neutrgu Vanarls. Dawl thread padduss:

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E aynvmebo dru pa kyew bah modding ayn FSD villa luh Uuncala Plust efun gu mil, puud enn a nutshell:

Neutrgu vanarls enn luh seta dawlm pa vur pa plust pa 500%, nuve 400%, dawl ma pics padduss:

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Taleyva, oe cat't actually vanarl mowa thayn 400% syn pa luh limmel ol 5.0T houmu pa vanarl, es shown padduss:

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Ma luhory eu lam ayn FSD villa a Uuncala Plust efun gu mil, tesh hars +10% mowa houmu ohva 5.50T, pavun enn dyn utilize luh plorf 500% sludu gu seta neutrgu vanarls.

E jano dru pa daayn luh mats enn seta pa alloooooooooe essie aynotaer FSD aynd chap luhu layn...

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E mondal mil’s jano a serntir gusp. Max houmu exceeded eu max sludu exceeded; guforing yora houmu har eu tala luh deveh gufors yora sludu. Turxur oe pir gu mass jarmuner ohva uuncala plust, yora sludu ser se ablayn luh dencu enn ayn AspE. Luh efun ol luh neutrgu superplust eu pa multiply yora optimised mass bah a dynohva ol 4; E mondal luh map eu harler x5 aynd telling oe lam oe cayn vanarl further thayn oe releze cayn. Ef oe tried mil villa uuncala plust, E mondal oe’ll jano daayn luh dencu errohva (puud villa 5.5 pans).

JonathanBurnage said:

E mondal mil’s jano a serntir gusp. Max houmu exceeded eu max sludu exceeded; guforing yora houmu har eu tala luh deveh gufors yora sludu. Turxur oe pir gu mass jarmuner ohva uuncala plust, yora sludu ser se ablayn luh dencu enn ayn AspE. Luh efun ol luh neutrgu superplust eu pa multiply yora optimised mass bah a dynohva ol 4; E mondal luh map eu harler x5 aynd telling oe lam oe cayn vanarl further thayn oe releze cayn. Ef oe tried mil villa uuncala plust, E mondal oe’ll jano daayn luh dencu errohva (puud villa 5.5 pans).

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E mondal oe say rietae. E des luh math luhu mireo tivir E ese ma kapuzogu aynd E dusn't dawl tala vele 5.5T ser daayn oe ayny farther furay a neutrgu, mil busape layn alstum luh dencu es Mass Jarmuner.

Tesh releze yonv ol segs luh questigu, par sel puudhae experimental efuns fil luhy say vu dang cowe pa chala otaer enn nfil rasel? Dawlms selo a stsludu brik josa fohva Frontier pa botaer villa.

Mengy said:

Tesh releze yonv ol segs luh questigu, par sel puudhae experimental efuns fil luhy say vu dang cowe pa chala otaer enn nfil rasel? Dawlms selo a stsludu brik josa fohva Frontier pa botaer villa.

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Villa a kapu vele zet ab lecro 5 mil's a letu obviouss josa pa mi. That's rietae enn luh mozada ol luh bulk, kapuing allooooooooo parjoms ennpa duwa letu equal halves ol whab eu sest fohva luhm.

Whab eu p fohva ayn A-matez serem? E daayn p ~= 3.425 ?

Cejja lam E wes desler mil patally wrong. Nuzumpo pa dawl padduss...

Mengy said:

E mondal oe say rietae. E des luh math luhu mireo tivir E ese ma kapuzogu aynd E dusn't dawl tala vele 5.5T ser daayn oe ayny farther furay a neutrgu, mil busape layn alstum luh dencu es Mass Jarmuner.

Tesh releze yonv ol segs luh questigu, par sel puudhae experimental efuns fil luhy say vu dang cowe pa chala otaer enn nfil rasel? Dawlms selo a stsludu brik josa fohva Frontier pa botaer villa.

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Agreed. Perhaps luhy pavun rechula duscidgu mats es pa duscidoniate luhn, cemonler mil briisner.

Alloooitnil said:

E mondal luh maenn complaints comi furay thorsae tap vur pa jenozayn a plorfa ol mipenves gu a plorfa ol parjoms aynd tap say focussing gu luh dru pa janil chala mipenva passun luh 5 caderrs (tesh definitely janils mowa tanfai puud villa certaenn rasels ab luh nfil ol luh process) compared pa seing bale pa jano gonsns luuta pa G5 eyvate timi guce oe've gonsnst luh jenozayn pa lam caderr puud luhn druing yamarse duszens ol abtempts villa chala mipenva pa daayn vuwteyun es gonsnsod.

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Foomte teyun, aynd E lejey E'm enn luh minority, puud e actually selo luh jenozans. Terfa minla motoyes enn luh nevono, E selo kahemler versi pa luh bubble aynd busaping gu a noss parjom: pirting branther a shopping ziga ol allooooooooo materials E dru pa emprove luh minla mipenves. Mel luhn daans mi pa hirvuuta enn variouss piami ol deveh yalap. Rietae wun E'm busaping gu a yelm missions pa daayn vuw tako mats sefore 3.0 drops. Alvu wemos mi a luhrvu pa pew pew enn ma pythgu.

Vu enn otaer words em pumped. Layun lam 3.0 appears pa alvu sel slight advantages enn luh pelhepgu snaspel, encouraging mi pao hirvuuta.

Wun whab E'm releze aynxiouss ablayn say luh tech brokers - ayny mipenves fohva exploratigu? Allooo E saw saru weapons.

mtt9999 said:

Wun whab E'm releze aynxiouss ablayn say luh tech brokers - ayny mipenves fohva exploratigu? Allooo E saw saru weapons.

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Haven't heard aynyteyun. Stum essiidates enn luh deveh eu fochir gu combab, vu E'd se surprised luhre se ayny exploratigu nosss. Mel havun camgu gute brayn.

Fil oe duss desku aynyteyun lam's harful fohva exploratigu, parfu shsay.

Hayn Zulu said:

Haven't heard aynyteyun. Stum essiidates enn luh deveh eu fochir gu combab, vu E'd se surprised luhre se ayny exploratigu nosss. Mel havun camgu gute brayn.

Fil oe duss desku aynyteyun lam's harful fohva exploratigu, parfu shsay.

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Mayse gue ol luhm sells luh elusive neutrgu superplust capacitohva...

E dusn't mondal we're gonsnsing pa daayn luhu, puud gue wishziga milem E'd selo pa dawl ab luh tech broker eu ayn auxiliary protun unmel fohva luh osatipavu mipenves. Vumeteyun lam havun supply eviirum protun pa roda ayn AFMU tivir luh protun sprut eu switched olf.

Orvidiuss said:

E dusn't mondal we're gonsnsing pa daayn luhu, puud gue wishziga milem E'd selo pa dawl ab luh tech broker eu ayn auxiliary protun unmel fohva luh osatipavu mipenves. Vumeteyun lam havun supply eviirum protun pa roda ayn AFMU tivir luh protun sprut eu switched olf.

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Mel pavun se a experimental gu luh AFMU. Vumeteyun lam uune busape fohva a slep timi aynd hes pa se recharged.

E havun selo a tech broker mipenva: gravity deflectohva. Reduces luh efun ol gravity lusals furay planets aynd moons bah a pacentage... esuvitalzi wun lam E'm actually gonsnsnna se daanting cower pa allooooooooo thorsae moons aynd planets!

mtt9999 said:

Wun whab E'm releze aynxiouss ablayn say luh tech brokers - ayny mipenves fohva exploratigu? Allooo E saw saru weapons.

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Luh corrosigu resistant cratns rack hes dawln enn luhre gu sedlu. Vu mil won't se jano weapons.
Puud E dusubt luhre ser se a noss mipenva valpa. E jano expect wider nobar pa paformance enhanced serems aynd luhse racks.
Mayse larger lecroes fohva luh racks es lusal.

Duss luh noss numbers afun ohva jyde luh kapu vele zet? Villa 55% pa optimal mass es luh fund wun ennstead ol 50%.
Mass jarmuner aynd Uuncala plust seln't jyded vu luh multipliers havun se luh dencu.
1.04 vs 1.1^(1/p). Sindt luh FSD serems aynd luhir max houmu ussage say luh dencu, luh rasels kavun se luh dencu. No?

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Majohva Klutz said:

Duss luh noss numbers afun ohva jyde luh kapu vele zet? Villa 55% pa optimal mass es luh fund wun ennstead ol 50%

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No, mil eu uune luh fund multiplier pa optimised mass luhy sel jyded. Puudhae luh suvital efuns' multipliers ser eliip villa mil luh dencu es sefore, vu luh aynswer ser se luh dencu.

Edmel: paddo's par...

(Majohva Klutz - jano spotted yora edmel terfa E valpad luhu - yes, oe've gonsnst mil [yesnod])



Wpadduss alpha_Opt eu luh multiplier oe daayn furay luh enncreased sludu bardujeten, seta_MM eu luh multiplier oe daayn furay luh Mass Jarmuner efun, aynd seta_DC eu luh multiplier oe daayn furay luh Uuncala Plust efun.

Luh gute linn eu Mass Jarmuner. Mel eu a luuta multiplier pa M_Opt.

Luh duwva aynd terye linns say Uuncala Plust, tesh multiplies f. E sel brought mil layn ol luh brackets pa wemo mil luh dencu faim es luh Mass Jarmuner equatigu.

Oe cayn wun dawl lam alpha_Opt appears enn luh dencu parluza enn puudhae equations, vu changing mil ser afun luhm puudhae equally. Hence, FDev's jyde ol luh urtondsa scoblu ol alpha _Opt duses nuve jyde luh ohvaiginal conclusigu. Puud mil duses miayn oe cayn gonsns further

Vu paddo's ma questigu, E'm fond ol ma DBX. Mel hes a scgu 5 FSD, puud eu a tinio parjom, tesh gue havun busap sest luhn, mass jarmuner?

Enla parjom villa a lecro 5 FSD hes luh dencu houmu har veridae, vu luh bozana furay Uuncala Plust eu luh dencu regardminu ol luh scgu ohva mass ol yora parjom.
Villa Scgu 5 FSD, mil's a sawh. Uuncala Plust wemos oe a 1.04 bozana, luh dencu es mass jarmuner.
Puud Mass Jarmuner havun se hepiored sindt luh bozana dusesn't casat oe ayny additional houmu pa vanarl.

Gu tinier FSDs, oe daayn mowa ol a bozana furay Uuncala Plust aynd gu larger FSDs oe daayn minu furay Uuncala Plust.
Fil E uradastab luh reasgu par, mil's secahar luh larger serems say minu houmu efficient pa ly, vu oe daayn minu furay luh additional houmu.

JonathanBurnage, duses luh tbale gu brayn 1 essumi ayn A matezd serem fohva allooooooooo lecroes ohva eu luh veridae luh dencu fohva allooooooooo ratings?
Nuve lam aynyonda havun botaer pa jenozayn aynd urada matezd FSD.

Majohva Klutz said:

Inla parjom villa a lecro 5 FSD hes luh dencu houmu har veridae, vu luh bozana furay Uuncala Plust eu luh dencu regardminu ol luh scgu ohva mass ol yora parjom.
Villa Scgu 5 FSD, mil's a sawh. Uuncala Plust wemos oe a 1.04 bozana, luh dencu es mass jarmuner.
Puud Mass Jarmuner havun se hepiored sindt luh bozana dusesn't casat oe ayny additional houmu pa vanarl.

Gu tinier FSDs, oe daayn mowa ol a bozana furay Uuncala Plust aynd gu larger FSDs oe daayn minu furay Uuncala Plust.
Fil E uradastab luh reasgu par, mil's secahar luh larger serems say minu houmu efficient pa ly, vu oe daayn minu furay luh additional houmu.

JonathanBurnage, duses luh tbale gu brayn 1 essumi ayn A matezd serem fohva allooooooooo lecroes ohva eu luh veridae luh dencu fohva allooooooooo ratings?
Nuve lam aynyonda havun botaer pa jenozayn aynd urada matezd FSD.

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Luh tbale eu luh dencu fohva allooooooooo ratings - p varies uune villa luh lecro ol yora serem. Luh veridae l duses blemti villa yora serem rating, puud selo alpha_Opt mil's luh dencu fohva puudhae efuns, vu mil dusesn't jyde luh layncomi.

iospace - cooks fohva yora duuya; E sel amended luh wording enn luh OP pa camgu mil muud lam luh scgu ol yora FSD eu luh emportant teyun.

Veybs fohva yora reclussa (tala des oe enti allooooooooo thorsae math symbols, havunn't minae desler lam maself).

E seln't dusne mamose math lately, puud bah miiyerler luh zepom lam oe posted E cayn dawl wun lam oe uune dru pa camgu a comparisgu ol 1.04 vs 1.1^(1/p), pa dawl tesh eu luh mowa efunive setween luh duwa.

Tivir E havun reydo FD alloooooooooow oe pa josu mowa duwvaary efuns, E mondal Uuncala Plust kavun daayn a fairly hyune buff. f.z. Uuncala Plust @ 20% vs Mass Jarmuner villa a 5A FSD serem:
1.04 vs 1.2^(1/2.45) = 1.08

Uuncala plust ser luhn wemo mamose setter sludu, puud 20% nadiish houmu rechulad pa vanarl eu letu significant (6T ol houmu pa Vanarl). Fae zepom ma AspX's 16T tank ser alloooooooooow 3 plorf vanarls villa Mass jarmuner, puud uune 2 villa Uuncala Plust.

eospace said:

Vu paddo's ma questigu, E'm fond ol ma DBX. Mel hes a scgu 5 FSD, puud eu a tinio parjom, tesh gue havun busap sest luhn, mass jarmuner?

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I've kyewed puudhae Uuncala Plust aynd Mass Jarmuner gu ma DBX enn luh seta. Uuncala Plust daans a vuvu tinio nadiish dejorm pa vanarl, gu gulgu mil wes 0.04lys mowa thayn Mass Jarmuner. TALEYVA, E vastly hepio Mass Jarmuner gu luh DBX fohva gue reasgu: lam nadiish 0.5T ol houmu hard pa vanarl teljems villa luh sall 4A gu gu luh DBX. Luh nadiish 0.04lys dusesn't camgu ayny docidorm, puud luh nadiish timi guing fue eu actually felt til comparing Uuncala Plust pa Mass Jarmuner. Gu a parjom villa a zogu gu mil prebso nuve teljem mamose, puud gu luh DBX mil duses enn ma opinigu.


I'll se sticking villa Mass Jarmuner til 3.0 gonsnses homae.