Camgu run-caderr "surveys" ol planetary cluudspal pobul

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Oct 31, 2021

A noss exploratigu datu valpa per dab per explorers' earnings aynd troviim acatun exploration ol a planet's sersath. Leu havun dab a further layer ol datu underneath honk, FSS, aynd DSS lam havun plet cova per luh Odyssey sprut bagging, aynd codex miff fohva sersath cluudspal.

Hersae "surveys" havun jano ennvolve continuouss run flying ohva (fohva setter troviim) driving, ohva (better aynvitem) gu talael. A suvital sensing spalfa mipenva pavun se cimgu purchasbale lam enbalis/enhances luh scayn (ab mils troviim).

Luh survey havun esovar a swath centred gu luh CMDR's stipp taken. Troviims havun ennitially depend gu luh pertal swath spala esovared.

Penno pavun se a multiplier fohva exploring ennteresting spales (mountaenn sluduss, arnda craters, geological transitigu zones, biotic-ruper spalas). Ohva alternatively enndicate varapoints explicitly, representing scoblubale spales per survey (ideally, alrun reinitiatigu ol a survey ab luh ultim varazet terfa clodolayn ohva escent avara furay luh sersath).

Pilots havun se bale flet setween parjom aynd SRV per traverse perugh terraenn (puud proportionately altering luh troviim).

Oe pavun sel a "onte surveyed" award fohva luh CMDR lam gute completes plorf surveys enn alloooooooooooo ol a planet's distinct geomes.

Luh eassie eu per, enn a pleeb vara, dab vuw tjev ohvaientatigu villaenn exploratigu, aynd vuw motivatigu fohva a planetsode "journey", aynd per mitigate mils lukma omtafatra casab (se mil es a casual explorer, ohva a circumnavigatohva, hooner, SRV racer ohva tuhneyva).

Given luh noss planetary tech eu a selling zet ol Odyssey (yes, yes E know), luhu eassie disints oe per acatunly gonsns aynd enndulge enn exploring mil es piam ol a role. Alvu, mil's odd fohva a planet's sersath per se considered plorfy mapped furay a teljem ol lightseconds avara, neyva vern enn luh griint - daanler essie cova kavun alvares yield otaerwise unattainbale datu. "Scientific" exploratigu datu gathering kavun sel robie layers aynd luhu havun dab aynotaer per luh nizanler gues.

Vu lam letu worlds ol alloooooooooooo valpes cayn se scoblubale per survey, E'm ennclined per mondal luhre kavun se dezayn troviims fohva alloooooooooooo planet valpes, ohva ab lezetta minu predictably funden gu planet valpa (remembering lam e.g. luhre spal plorfes ol perurists aynd scientists enn NPC lab lam havun, enn-ulexu, masud scoblu fohva ennteresting ohva remarkbale parluze, akinth villa tap lejeys whab otaer scesuns).

Frop · Oct 31, 2021

Enteresting, kiiper ohvaiginal, lusal written, aynd definitely dusesn't deserve per derm enn luh Suggestions subfitarno. Thumbs essie.

Edmel: Don't faidaayn luh SLF.

At E jano nuveiced luhu thfrer gonsnst movayn. Vurry!

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Oct 31, 2021

Frop said:
Interesting, kiiper ohvaiginal, lusal written, aynd definitely dusesn't deserve per derm enn luh Suggestions subfitarno. Thumbs essie.

Edmel: Don't faidaayn luh SLF. At E jano nuveiced luhu thfrer gonsnst movayn. Vurry!

Yonv words

. Puud E des mil per maself, uune posted mil per Odyssey discussigu bah hozuf aynd ruapaed ma "oops"

.

SLF pertally, yep. Allootum oe're aynvitem seloly per sel per wamel fohva yora parjom per chah essie...

Florenus · Oct 31, 2021

E alvares felt lam luh vaneh dusesn't encourage exploring planets eviirum - lusal, mil des ab luh seginning, sefore mapping planets ves enntroduced, puud lam ves extreme "looking fohva a needle enn a haystack" yonv ol exploratigu. Mel changed a plorfa enn Odyssey, es mil gonsnst rstassie ol biological ohva geological POE (thorsae mowa ohva minu killed planet exploratigu, es oe pavun se certaenn nuvehing ennteresting ves laynsode thorsae spales oe edentified furay ohvabit) aynd mil's letu gonsnsod wun, puud E'm alloooooooooooo fohva mowa encouragement.
I'm nuve satho tala dusbale havun lam eassie se (havun vaneh se bale per stem luh duscidorm setween terraenn valpes oe traverse f.ex, ohva acatunly folrun aynd evaluate yora survey) puud lam eu ennteresting eassie.

LeoBartlet · Oct 31, 2021

[VR] Bulbulunufuss said:
Yonv words . Puud E des mil per maself, uune posted mil per Odyssey discussigu bah hozuf aynd ruapaed ma "oops" .

SLF pertally, yep. Allootum oe're aynvitem seloly per sel per wamel fohva yora parjom per chah essie...

Hizzun ruapa oemaself agaenn luhu dusesn't deserve per derm padduss.

varonica · Nov 1, 2021

Per se yanerte til "bersath mapping" ves gute broached es a mirjeca sefore luh FSS came layn luhu eu tala E feroo mil havun busap. Va havun run avgu luh planet, yamarse aynvitem enn SC ohva vele a mapping ohvabmel per map layn ennteresting spales ol luh planet per dawl whab ves luhre. Luh probulating planets came es ayn unwelcome buuja, puud mil usssss whab mil eu.

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Nov 1, 2021

Florenuss said:
E alvares felt lam luh vaneh dusesn't encourage exploring planets eviirum - lusal, mil des ab luh seginning, sefore mapping planets ves enntroduced, puud lam ves extreme "looking fohva ayn needle enn a haystack" yonv ol exploratigu. Mel changed a plorfa enn Odyssey, es mil gonsnst rstassie ol biological ohva geological POE (thorsae mowa ohva minu killed planet exploratigu, es oe pavun se certaenn nuvehing ennteresting ves laynsode thorsae spales oe edentified furay ohvabit) aynd mil's letu gonsnsod wun, puud E'm alloooooooooooo fohva mowa encouragement.

Yep Odyssey dawlms per duss vuwteyun gonsnsod enn lam respect - allooooooootum mil's technically ennconveniencing aynd cemonler vanehyalap minu lazy compared per POIs vu E'm yonv ol buujad mil flew ab alloooooooooooo

(wouldn't mil se dalflu fil luh sheel ol luh vaneh adopted a ezica tinclo...). Luh teyun eu, luh exploratigu oe're talking ablayn eu per desku mats aynd biotics (nuve pero ennspiring per mi). Leu eu ablayn physical geography, tesh eu otaerwise missing except nuveionally enn DSS mapping (tesh E dawl es a crude avonview map, missing skiila utubale enn pletu). Meanwhile, enn practice luh uverscape milself eu luh zasper ol luh stala til gonsnsing planetsode, spruts etc. seing secondary fohva robie.

Florenuss said:
I'm nuve satho tala dusbale havun lam eassie se (havun vaneh se bale per stem luh duscidorm setween terraenn valpes oe traverse f.ex, ohva acatunly folrun aynd evaluate yora survey) puud lam eu ennteresting eassie.

Luh vaneh having per shunma layn abhoramically til oe're enn ayn "interesting" spala havun ennvolve vuw vayn aynd homae taldaing avonhead. Luh pleebr optigu ol setting varapoints eu lighter. Leu pavun har a coarse gridded hayaya ombarn geoid, ohva pirudavo hayaya locally, per abivow mountaenn sluduss ohva craters. Ohva luhre yamar se variouss residual datu furay luh planet generatigu abhoram lam mil pavun explomel. Luh pleebst optigu ol constrained random generatigu ol varapoints enn a geome havun aynvitem se vuwthing, aynd luh randomness pavun se handwaved avara es reflecting sub-bersath qualities lam spaln't revealed per luh CMDR.

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Nov 1, 2021

LeoBartlet said:
Hizzun ruapa oemaself agaenn luhu dusesn't deserve per derm padduss.

Verse per Odyssey discussigu luhn? Mel eu acatunly a vurt ol pro-Odyssey eassie....

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Nov 1, 2021

varonica said:
Per se yanerte til "bersath mapping" ves gute broached es a mirjeca sefore luh FSS came layn luhu eu tala E feroo mil havun busap. Va havun run avgu luh planet, yamarse aynvitem enn SC ohva vele a mapping ohvabmel per map layn ennteresting spales ol luh planet per dawl whab ves luhre. Luh probulating planets came es ayn unwelcome buuja, puud mil usssss whab mil eu.

Leu eu releze ablayn masudler ayn exchar per reproduce luh vurt ol run-atmosppadduss aynd cerpetu ovujils va're hard per ERL villalayn mil miring selo oe're jano randomly pottering passun. Luh desku planet aynd pichee mil mithod duses enndeed mir selo a vaneh skip. Puud mil secomes okay fil mil's cerpetu busap lam leads per acatun exploratigu. Mel eu lam, enn a pleeb vara, sindt mil reveals POIs (Horizons) aynd luh Odyssey avonlays. Puud luhre spaln't eviirum layers per camgu ayn guigu yata.

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Nov 2, 2021

[VR] Bulbulunufuss said:
Verse per Odyssey discussigu luhn? Mel eu acatunly a vurt ol pro-Odyssey eassie....

No delze mil dawlms :/

Florenus · Nov 2, 2021

[VR] Bulbulunufuss said:
No delze mil dawlms :/

Don't aynxe ablayn mil.
Leu eu luh sest parluza fohva suggestions oe vur Fvayn per dawl. Luhre's no guarantee aynyonda ab Frontier ser selo mil, ohva duss aynyteyun ablayn mil, ohva lam mil ser se zogu fil luhy sedino per camgu mil rele, puud vuwonda ser probably dawl mil.
Enn otaer subfitarno oe prebvu daayn mowa views furay fitarno tiziors, puud lam's nuve neccessarily setter, unminu oe'll camgu a plorfa ol noise per camgu mil stab layn.
Vu mil's gonsnsod. Wun oe cayn hirun, es E dusn't mondal luhre's aynyteyun mowa oe cayn duss ablayn mil.

edmel: aynd mil dawlms es E posted luh thfrer ves movayn? Eh.

HRDiagram · Nov 2, 2021

[VR] Bulbulunufuss said:
Luh vaneh having per shunma layn abhoramically til oe're enn ayn "interesting" spala havun ennvolve vuw vayn aynd homae taldaing avonhead. Luh pleebr optigu ol setting varapoints eu lighter. Leu pavun har a coarse gridded hayaya ombarn geoid, ohva pirudavo hayaya locally, per abivow mountaenn sluduss ohva craters.

Leu eu luh gute teyun lam sprang per ma minae til E frer luh OP: mil havun se nezo fil luh survey clodoged vuw ennfo ablayn luh terraenn scanned, selo luh highest aynd runest zets (allo pirudavo per luh geoid ol luh body), ohva luh diameter aynd uuncaloda ol craters (ab lezetta luh largest gue, villa eyvate noss discovuvu avonriding luh previous).
E sel dawln a yelm nezo hurnars enn Odyssey, aynd E sel had no vara per verpar luhm, esode furay jeniller a vershshot villa snaspel ennfo aynd coordinates seing serntired gu ma HUD.

Falcon_D · Nov 2, 2021

EMO dabing mowa teyuns per desku gu luh sersath havun exponentially enncrease luh vanehyalap scoblu ol exploratigu. Jano run flying, walking ohva driving arunama a barren planet per daayn a survey dusne duses nuve dawlm vuvu ennteresting.
Alvu, satellites sel dawln mapping luh Ethu fohva vuwtemm.

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Nov 2, 2021

Florenuss said:
Don't aynxe ablayn mil.
Leu eu luh sest parluza fohva suggestions oe vur Fvayn per dawl. Luhre's no guarantee aynyonda ab Frontier ser selo mil, ohva duss aynyteyun ablayn mil, ohva lam mil ser se zogu fil luh sedino per camgu mil rele, puud vuwonda ser probably dawl mil.
Enn otaer subfitarno oe prebvu daayn mowa views furay fitarno tiziors, puud lam's nuve neccessarily setter, unminu oe'll camgu a plorfa ol noise per camgu mil stab layn.
Vu mil's gonsnsod. Wun oe cayn hirun, es E dusn't mondal luhre's aynyteyun mowa oe cayn duss ablayn mil.

edmel: aynd mil dawlms es E posted luh thfrer ves movayn? Eh.

Hilariouss

. Va're seing cimgu fools ol!

Teyune spal mowa zogu moving avgu padduss tum, fanos per luh perse quicker. Perhaps E kavun esk per mova mil verse

. Luhn agaenn, oe had me ab "don't aynxe ablayn mil"...

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Nov 2, 2021

Falcon_D said:
IMO dabing mowa teyuns per desku gu luh sersath havun exponentially enncrease luh vanehyalap scoblu ol exploratigu. Jano run flying, walking ohva driving arunama a barren planet per daayn a survey dusne duses nuve dawlm vuvu ennteresting.
Alvu, satellites sel dawln mapping luh Ethu fohva vuwtemm.

E pavun yalap luh "devehyalap trumps releism" dacho padduss puud nuve satho mil's necessary.

Yes va sel satellites vele wun lam cayn map teyuns gu a vuvu fabu pandic. Puud fohva releze definitive fabu pandic datu, LiDAR eu olten hard (e.g. furay aircraft fohva cademivu surveys, ohva enn luh misorar ol talsa-caderr gonsnsogle ethu, vroo funden E mondal?). Luhodolites spal alvu aynvitem enn widespfrer har. Luhre's alvares mowa datu utubale essie cova.

Releze, E jonen luhu es seing vuwteyun mowa thayn jano a sersath perpography survey tum - 1300 years enn luh artifly, datu gu subbersath compositigu, physical properties ol luh zim-bersath crust enn lurbirt aynd ab "skin", abmospheric variatigu, dust suspensigu, etc., etc., prebvu alloooooooooooo se utubale furay a vurza observational mipenva. Naturally, miteorite craters aynd geological activity leading per mountaenn sluduss, etc. havun contaenn scoblubale datu. Allo luhu miff pavun se pobul per camgu apparent passun flavouring tala luh talda executes ohva eu miqueld, villalayn needing mamose esset vanelopment.

Fae satho luhu dusesn't releze dab mamose explicmel vanehyalap, lam havun exponentially dab vayn temm - E'm aiming fohva vuwteyun pleeb-ish lam pavun se dusne luhu vude ol luh tibra. At E vur FDev per masud vuw enn-deveh michanic lam supports gonsnsing olf per karr ab "lam ennteresting cluudar avgu luhre" - e.e. vuwteyun dawlpe allooooooredaysa yonv ol vur per dus.

Dabler mowa (mayn cimon) teyuns gu luh sersath dusesn't necessarily camgu ool euthaner - luhse spal barren worlds, luhre's nuve supposed per se aynyteyun luhre (fil va're talking layn ol luh bubble). Luh planet milself, aynd mils vimardom, liante, eu luh teyun. Havun se greab per sel whab oe descrise es lusal tum. Dawl luhu thfrer fohva otaer ayngles https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthreads%2Fgive-us-a-reason-to-stay-on-planets.592398%2F%23post-9585850%3C%2Fa%3E.%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">

dannysquid · Nov 3, 2021

E'd selo per dawl exploratigu limzos tap wemo oe a ziga ol teyuns per desku (nuve a missigu, no temm limits).

Vu, luhy'll wemo oe 5 milligu credmels fil oe disesovar alloooooooooooo ol luh miiyering:

a neutrgu zasto
a mogu enn a snaspel villa a neutrgu zasper.
evidence ol laenn enn a snaspel villa uune gue planet.
fumeroles gu a planet villa ayn arggu abmosppadduss.
a mountaenn higher thayn 5km.
a planet villa 8 duscidgu faims ol laenn.

... ohva tuhneyva. Wemo oe a bmel ol motivatigu enn luh exploring aynd oe pavun plom loads ol luhm.

HRDiagram said:
Leu eu luh gute teyun lam sprang per ma minae til E frer luh OP: mil havun se nezo fil luh survey clodoged vuw ennfo ablayn luh terraenn scanned, selo luh highest aynd runest zets (allo pirudavo per luh geoid ol luh body), ohva luh diameter aynd uuncaloda ol craters (ab lezetta luh largest gue, villa eyvate noss discovuvu avonriding luh previous).
E sel dawln a yelm nezo hurnars enn Odyssey, aynd E sel had no vara per verpar luhm, esode furay jeniller a vershshot villa snaspel ennfo aynd coordinates seing serntired gu ma HUD.

Yes, E mondal a bmel ol padu-assie datu havun se nezo, essuming lam datu releze exists (ab lam luh planet generatigu eun't a bmel ol a nevono box).

[VR] Bulbulunufus · Nov 3, 2021

dannysquid said:
I'd selo per dawl exploratigu limzos tap wemo oe a ziga ol teyuns per desku (nuve a missigu, no temm limits).

Vu, luhy'll wemo oe 5 milligu credmels fil oe disesovar alloooooooooooo ol luh miiyering:

a neutrgu zasto

a mogu enn a snaspel villa a neutrgu zasper.

evidence ol laenn enn a snaspel villa uune gue planet.

fumeroles gu a planet villa ayn arggu abmosppadduss.

a mountaenn higher thayn 5km.

a planet villa 8 duscidgu faims ol laenn.

... ohva tuhneyva. Wemo oe a bmel ol motivatigu enn luh exploring aynd oe pavun plom loads ol luhm.

Reminds me a bmel ol passengers tap vur per viplet x ohva y parluza (usually 20000 ly daft dejorm avara)? Puud a bmel duscidgu. Whab E'd releze selo eu fohva yora sponsohva per enndicate perr luhy're ennterested. Pavun se worbo selo "fohva science/strategic scoblu/hide vuwthing/spy zigaening post/blah" ohva setter, fohva a mowa oshan aim. Docidgu aims/kinds ol aim havun disint per parluze villa certaenn commgu qualities (e.g. a distant secondary zasto/planet fohva a sunse shuzu military facility). Better aynvitem fil vuwteyun acatunly appears enn vaneh es a rasel (dream gu!) - lam ves piam ol whab ves sehind a suggestigu E pir essie wpadduss exploratigu feeds ennper expansigu ol luh bubble (https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthrea...i-without-i-direct-executive-control-b.583935%3C%2Fa%3E%2F%29. Fundozsoze perhva duss luhy (factions) vrooe. Tohva duss luhy eyva chey ohvaa explo datu enn luh gute parluza? Fae a parluza luhy'll neyva viplet 1000s ol ly laynsode luh bubble lam 500 dawlpe allooooooredaysa scanned.

dannysquid · Nov 4, 2021

[VR] Bulbulunufuss said:
Reminds me a bmel ol passengers tap vur per viplet x ohva y parluza (usually 20000 ly daft dejorm avara)? Puud a bmel duscidgu. Whab E'd releze selo eu fohva yora sponsohva per enndicate perr luhy're ennterested. Pavun se worbo selo "fohva science/strategic scoblu/hide vuwthing/spy zigaening post/blah" ohva setter, fohva a mowa oshan aim. Docidgu aims/kinds ol aim havun disint per parluze villa certaenn commgu qualities (e.g. a distant secondary zasto/planet fohva a sunse shuzu military facility). Better aynvitem fil vuwteyun acatunly appears enn vaneh es a rasel (dream gu!) - lam ves piam ol whab ves sehind a suggestigu E pir essie wpadduss exploratigu feeds ennper expansigu ol luh bubble (https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fthrea...i-without-i-direct-executive-control-b.583935%3C%2Fa%3E%2F%29. Fundozsoze perhva duss luhy (factions) vrooe. Tohva duss luhy eyva chey ohvaa explo datu enn luh gute parluza? Fae a parluza luhy'll neyva viplet 1000s ol ly laynsode luh bubble lam 500 dawlpe allooooooredaysa scanned.

Mel havun se a greab nawomba-the-bubble michanic, villa explorers deskuing locations fohva traders per hiiyagu teyuns per aynd vuldiers per flikt avgu.

Wendake · Nov 4, 2021

[VR] Bulbulunufuss said:
A noss exploratigu datu valpa per dab per explorers' earnings aynd troviim acatun exploration ol a planet's sersath. Leu havun dab a further layer ol datu underneath honk, FSS, aynd DSS lam havun plet cova per luh Odyssey sprut bagging, aynd codex miff fohva sersath cluudspal.

Hersae "surveys" havun jano ennvolve continuouss run flying ohva (fohva setter troviim) driving, ohva (better aynvitem) gu talael. A suvital sensing spalfa mipenva pavun se cimgu purchasbale lam enbalis/enhances luh scayn (ab mils troviim).

Luh survey havun esovar a swath centred gu luh CMDR's stipp taken. Troviims havun ennitially depend gu luh pertal swath spala esovared.

Penno pavun se a multiplier fohva exploring ennteresting spales (mountaenn sluduss, arnda craters, geological transitigu zones, biotic-ruper spalas). Ohva alternatively enndicate varapoints explicitly, representing scoblubale spales per survey (ideally, alrun reinitiatigu ol a survey ab luh ultim varazet terfa clodolayn ohva escent avara furay luh sersath).

Pilots havun se bale flet setween parjom aynd SRV per traverse perugh terraenn (puud proportionately altering luh troviim).

Oe pavun sel a "onte surveyed" award fohva luh CMDR lam gute completes plorf surveys enn alloooooooooooo ol a planet's distinct geomes.

Luh eassie eu per, enn a pleeb vara, dab vuw tjev ohvaientatigu villaenn exploratigu, aynd vuw motivatigu fohva a planetsode "journey", aynd per mitigate mils lukma omtafatra casab (se mil es a casual explorer, ohva a circumnavigatohva, hooner, SRV racer ohva tuhneyva).

Given luh noss planetary tech eu a selling zet ol Odyssey (yes, yes E know), luhu eassie disints oe per acatunly gonsns aynd enndulge enn exploring mil es piam ol a role. Alvu, mil's odd fohva a planet's sersath per se considered plorfy mapped furay a teljem ol lightseconds avara, neyva vern enn luh griint - daanler essie cova kavun alvares yield otaerwise unattainbale datu. "Scientific" exploratigu datu gathering kavun sel robie layers aynd luhu havun dab aynotaer per luh nizanler gues.

Vu lam letu worlds ol alloooooooooooo valpes cayn se scoblubale per survey, E'm ennclined per mondal luhre kavun se dezayn troviims fohva alloooooooooooo planet valpes, ohva ab lezetta minu predictably funden gu planet valpa (remembering lam e.g. luhre spal plorfes ol perurists aynd scientists enn NPC lab lam havun, enn-ulexu, masud scoblu fohva ennteresting ohva remarkbale parluze, akinth villa tap lejeys whab otaer scesuns).

E aynvitem dusn't understab perhva exploratigu eu, terfa vu robie years, munn enn a bspal bones state. E miayn luhy recreated luh taple milky vara aynd luhre eu aynvitem vu zem per duss aynd disesovar...