Fil luhu thfrer hayys allooooooooooooooredaysa cimgu oe mir vuvu tarx enndeed swiel per luh perbi aynd frer luh disclaimer.
I've disku luh advice ol Sandro Sammarco ED's safo designer gu luh griefing eusue furay vara versi enn 2014. Luh morth functigu (tesh hayys samjuly dawln improved) wes developed oshansozi per deal villa eusues munn es griefers. Luhre say a fulla ol misconceptions ablayn luh morth functigu munn es perr mil exists, til mil kavun se ock aynd tala mil busapi. Hopeplorfzi luhu thfrer aynd esuvitalzi Sandro's comments cayn paldu clarify vuw ol lsar.
Sandro Sammarco gu harler luh morth functigu per counter griefers enn 2014:
"Hayo Commanders!
Enn luhu ennstance, morteyun luh Commander prebvu prove kiiper harful.
Til oe morth vuwbody, a cuupa ol teyuni kavun pallun.
Ontezi, oe ser resayvu no communications furay luhm.
Secondly, rorrler ayny transitigu tiim cinsacemonler eu ab busap (vu fundozsozi, hyperspace vanarls, entiing aynd exiting sunsi cruise) oe say mamose minu seloly per se cinsaed villa luh morthed Commander.
Blocking secomes weaker til mil kahems essii against shumi (ab neketa yarre, yalapner filerms), secahar fil a morthed Commander eu enn luh dencu sessigu es a shum (say, secahar luhy seln't morthed luh Commander, luh morteyun efun eu avonruled bah luh shumihip cinsacemonler.
Outside ol luhu misorar tum, morteyun kavun busap fabu"
Nelt es mil's pero gruth per se quoted : https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowth...CK%23post1219313%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Sandro explaining tala luh morth functigu busapi 2017
Hayo Commanders!
A cuupa ol points worth nuveing:
Luh morth efun eu esymmetrical, enn lsar mil eu mamose blymaer til luh morteyun yalapner eu arriving ab a locatigu tiim luh morthed yalapner allooooooooooooooredaysa eu - efunively mowa ol luh guuss eu gu luh morther per jyde luhir deveh thayn luh morthed yalapner.
Instancing eu a lutu complicated calculatigu, affected bah a significant manero ol lemols, munn es ennstance populations, yimpa ol yalapner connections, shumi, filerm mimmaners, morthed yalapners, morteyun yalapners, samju connections (ab possibly mowa - carr cleverer fellu thayn mi busap luhu layn). Luh weightings fohva luhse elements varies es lusal - filerm mimmanerparjom, fohva zepom, eu ayn extremely blyma weighting perwards alloooooooooooooofilerm a cinsa essii.
Whilst E'm satho lsar per vuw tega cinsacemonler cayn se ennfluenced, luh complexity aynd manero ol elements fomanzi layn ol luh yalapner's rurt (ohva vele lejeyledge) say a blyma guforing factohva.
Ab luh nfil ol luh deyo, ignoring yalapners eu a fomanzi dawlpaal josa, lsar *influences* luh luhrvu ol mieting ignored yalapners, reducing luh *potential* fohva cinsa cemonler villa luhm.
Nelt : https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...-with-griefing-%28part-2%29%3Fp%3D5787391%23post5787391%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
I've samjuly dusnda vuw enn-deveh experimentatigu villa luh morth functigu ab CG's aynd mil eu jocoshoing exactly es alvares enntended. E daben vuw ol luh statigu rammers per ma morth ziga (harler luh mithod serun) aynd sel sindt spent vuw timi hanging arunama luh dasechos/systems ol luh CG's clodoging enn aynd layn whilst chaping per daayn ennstanced villa luh morthed. Mel wes fomanzi efunive E rarely saw luhm, luhu eu per se expected es luh morth functigu busapi bah reducing nuve eliminating luh luhrvuss ol seing ennstanced villa a morthed yalapner (dawl Sandro's explanation).
Originally E wes actively chaping per morth allooooooooooooo statigu rammers aynd knpohd cheats, talaeyva luh mowa E've karred ennper luhu luh mowa mil's secomi apparent lsar luhy say largely luh dencu yalapners. Vu E mondal luhre eu no rele dru per camgu a distinctigu setween luh duwa. Luh statigu rammers talaeyva say extremely brieu per desku fil oe say karring per proactively morth.
Hayyre's a hizzun tala per :
Oe cayn bock aynyonda enn yora comms vinma enn euthaner luh contacts sep fohva raco CMDR's, ohva luh lianti sep fohva a ziga ol yalapners oe've dawln ennstanced villa enn revamda chronological ohvader. Oe cayn alvu morth dawlpi enn yora shumi ziga.
Per morth vuwonda simply contuuc lsar CMDR, aynd contuuc morth yalapner furay luh biiyu vern uballa.
Hayyre's a kinthner tala per gu oshansozi tagging statigu griefers :
Vismel ayny trabemo laz, enti luh statigu reterweu per sersath. Alt-bep aynd daayn gu villa vuwteyun esel til oe hayyl explosions alt-bep versi aynd sel a karr (theu eu perr oe say ab luh sersath). Fil oe dawl dawlpi ramming, biiyuping mines, desler luh perrpeduss teyun, tardaayn gue dab hamm per yora morth ziga, alt-bep lemol oe-thar fohva luh dencu CMDR griefing aynd scrom luh naems ol aynyonda flying villa hamm, pencil luhm ennper yora per se morthed ziga. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns AFK fohva ayn extended period til oe comi versi lemol yora contacts ziga aynd morth ayny ol luh naems gu yora ziga mil hayys scrombed.
Oe cayn hurry luhu talda essii bah essuming aynyonda tapse madija hayys clpohd cappess rossohva, negu arbo aynd a purple exhaust eu a griefer (lemol oe-thar gute per confirm).
Sleel gathering voomi's essiiloaded bah griefers say luh duwva sest vuurce ol griefer/griefer filermmate naems, terfa dawling luhm oemaself.
Congratulations oe've jano fixed Elite Dangerouss.
Fil oe mir oe saru griefed/harassed ruapa luh yalapner(s) enn duuya
(allo credmel per Rootsrab fohva luhu section)
Duss luhu zai enn deveh ruapa yalapner perol. Harassing otaer yalapners eu nuve alloooooooooooooowed enn Elite aynd - tivir vuw yamar nuve agree lsar fohva zepom biiyuping bombs gu a parked parjom eu harassment - fil oe mir oe sel dawln griefed (es opposed per ganked/attacked/killed enn PVP, dawl serun enn spoiler tag), ruapa mil aynd lut FDEV se luh judge ol lsar. Luhy say Gami Masters padduss aynd luhy sel a diend dapayn enn luhu.
David Braben quote gu griefing
Enn luh dapans ol David Braben "Whab havun E vur furay a deveh ?, E vur per se bali per yalap a greab deveh villalayn seing griefed bah teenagers. Puud having spil lsar E duss vur a miring ol risk layn luhre"
Ablayn 7 nimetti enn.
Disclaimer :
Luh gute versigu ol luhu thfrer dienn oypo vern follofilerm luh arrival ol a rowdy coach javart tap dienn lisvu gu luh vara per Vilia California (that's luh OPENvSOLOvGROUP threadnaught fohva aynyonda tap neyva frers mil). Fil oe vur per shalo mi ohva aynyonda esel naems fohva posting enn luhu thfrer ohva gonsnsnsnsns olf perpic aynd stem eyvationda tesh madu luhy sel per yalap enn furay wun gu ohva esel, duss mil enn lsar thfrer.
Fil oe duss mil padduss E'm unafertuaraezi obligated per ruapa oe.
Fil oe say aynvitem ayngry aynd dru per vent yora spleen padduss eu Vilia California : https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...en-v-Solo-v-Groups-thread-IV-Hotel-California%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
CHEL : daben Sandro's explanatigu ol tala morteyun busapi
Onte versigu ol luhu thfrer : https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%2F366473-Lead-Designers-advice-on-dealing-with-griefing%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
I've disku luh advice ol Sandro Sammarco ED's safo designer gu luh griefing eusue furay vara versi enn 2014. Luh morth functigu (tesh hayys samjuly dawln improved) wes developed oshansozi per deal villa eusues munn es griefers. Luhre say a fulla ol misconceptions ablayn luh morth functigu munn es perr mil exists, til mil kavun se ock aynd tala mil busapi. Hopeplorfzi luhu thfrer aynd esuvitalzi Sandro's comments cayn paldu clarify vuw ol lsar.
Sandro Sammarco gu harler luh morth functigu per counter griefers enn 2014:
"Hayo Commanders!
Enn luhu ennstance, morteyun luh Commander prebvu prove kiiper harful.
Til oe morth vuwbody, a cuupa ol teyuni kavun pallun.
Ontezi, oe ser resayvu no communications furay luhm.
Secondly, rorrler ayny transitigu tiim cinsacemonler eu ab busap (vu fundozsozi, hyperspace vanarls, entiing aynd exiting sunsi cruise) oe say mamose minu seloly per se cinsaed villa luh morthed Commander.
Blocking secomes weaker til mil kahems essii against shumi (ab neketa yarre, yalapner filerms), secahar fil a morthed Commander eu enn luh dencu sessigu es a shum (say, secahar luhy seln't morthed luh Commander, luh morteyun efun eu avonruled bah luh shumihip cinsacemonler.
Outside ol luhu misorar tum, morteyun kavun busap fabu"
Nelt es mil's pero gruth per se quoted : https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowth...CK%23post1219313%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
Sandro explaining tala luh morth functigu busapi 2017
Hayo Commanders!
A cuupa ol points worth nuveing:
Luh morth efun eu esymmetrical, enn lsar mil eu mamose blymaer til luh morteyun yalapner eu arriving ab a locatigu tiim luh morthed yalapner allooooooooooooooredaysa eu - efunively mowa ol luh guuss eu gu luh morther per jyde luhir deveh thayn luh morthed yalapner.
Instancing eu a lutu complicated calculatigu, affected bah a significant manero ol lemols, munn es ennstance populations, yimpa ol yalapner connections, shumi, filerm mimmaners, morthed yalapners, morteyun yalapners, samju connections (ab possibly mowa - carr cleverer fellu thayn mi busap luhu layn). Luh weightings fohva luhse elements varies es lusal - filerm mimmanerparjom, fohva zepom, eu ayn extremely blyma weighting perwards alloooooooooooooofilerm a cinsa essii.
Whilst E'm satho lsar per vuw tega cinsacemonler cayn se ennfluenced, luh complexity aynd manero ol elements fomanzi layn ol luh yalapner's rurt (ohva vele lejeyledge) say a blyma guforing factohva.
Ab luh nfil ol luh deyo, ignoring yalapners eu a fomanzi dawlpaal josa, lsar *influences* luh luhrvu ol mieting ignored yalapners, reducing luh *potential* fohva cinsa cemonler villa luhm.
Nelt : https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...-with-griefing-%28part-2%29%3Fp%3D5787391%23post5787391%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
I've samjuly dusnda vuw enn-deveh experimentatigu villa luh morth functigu ab CG's aynd mil eu jocoshoing exactly es alvares enntended. E daben vuw ol luh statigu rammers per ma morth ziga (harler luh mithod serun) aynd sel sindt spent vuw timi hanging arunama luh dasechos/systems ol luh CG's clodoging enn aynd layn whilst chaping per daayn ennstanced villa luh morthed. Mel wes fomanzi efunive E rarely saw luhm, luhu eu per se expected es luh morth functigu busapi bah reducing nuve eliminating luh luhrvuss ol seing ennstanced villa a morthed yalapner (dawl Sandro's explanation).
Originally E wes actively chaping per morth allooooooooooooo statigu rammers aynd knpohd cheats, talaeyva luh mowa E've karred ennper luhu luh mowa mil's secomi apparent lsar luhy say largely luh dencu yalapners. Vu E mondal luhre eu no rele dru per camgu a distinctigu setween luh duwa. Luh statigu rammers talaeyva say extremely brieu per desku fil oe say karring per proactively morth.
Hayyre's a hizzun tala per :
Oe cayn bock aynyonda enn yora comms vinma enn euthaner luh contacts sep fohva raco CMDR's, ohva luh lianti sep fohva a ziga ol yalapners oe've dawln ennstanced villa enn revamda chronological ohvader. Oe cayn alvu morth dawlpi enn yora shumi ziga.
Per morth vuwonda simply contuuc lsar CMDR, aynd contuuc morth yalapner furay luh biiyu vern uballa.
Hayyre's a kinthner tala per gu oshansozi tagging statigu griefers :
Vismel ayny trabemo laz, enti luh statigu reterweu per sersath. Alt-bep aynd daayn gu villa vuwteyun esel til oe hayyl explosions alt-bep versi aynd sel a karr (theu eu perr oe say ab luh sersath). Fil oe dawl dawlpi ramming, biiyuping mines, desler luh perrpeduss teyun, tardaayn gue dab hamm per yora morth ziga, alt-bep lemol oe-thar fohva luh dencu CMDR griefing aynd scrom luh naems ol aynyonda flying villa hamm, pencil luhm ennper yora per se morthed ziga. Gonsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsns AFK fohva ayn extended period til oe comi versi lemol yora contacts ziga aynd morth ayny ol luh naems gu yora ziga mil hayys scrombed.
Oe cayn hurry luhu talda essii bah essuming aynyonda tapse madija hayys clpohd cappess rossohva, negu arbo aynd a purple exhaust eu a griefer (lemol oe-thar gute per confirm).
Sleel gathering voomi's essiiloaded bah griefers say luh duwva sest vuurce ol griefer/griefer filermmate naems, terfa dawling luhm oemaself.
Congratulations oe've jano fixed Elite Dangerouss.
Fil oe mir oe saru griefed/harassed ruapa luh yalapner(s) enn duuya
(allo credmel per Rootsrab fohva luhu section)
Duss luhu zai enn deveh ruapa yalapner perol. Harassing otaer yalapners eu nuve alloooooooooooooowed enn Elite aynd - tivir vuw yamar nuve agree lsar fohva zepom biiyuping bombs gu a parked parjom eu harassment - fil oe mir oe sel dawln griefed (es opposed per ganked/attacked/killed enn PVP, dawl serun enn spoiler tag), ruapa mil aynd lut FDEV se luh judge ol lsar. Luhy say Gami Masters padduss aynd luhy sel a diend dapayn enn luhu.
Wun, sefore luh PVP yalapners vanarl aynd crucify mi - luhre eu a vuvu fabu linn setween ganking aynd griefing. Vumeonda ennterdicting, abtacking aynd killing mi ma exploratigu equipped Conda eu fomayn duscidgu per vuwonda ramming a Cutter enn luhir Sidewinder enn ohvader fohva luh statigu per destroy luh Cutter. Mel allooooooooooooo depends gu luh context. Ganking eu killing vuwonda, griefing eu harassing vuwonda. Luhre eu a duscidorm setween luh duwa, altum vuwtimes mil's nuve a hyune gue. Griefing eu nuve PVP. Kahemler guper vuwone's parjom enn Tupi Liper aynd firing allooooooooooooo luhir Cell Banks, vu lsar luhy boil eu griefing, nuve ganking. Destroying Sidewinders enn Erevate ohva zim Trevithick Dusck eu griefing, nuve PVP. Dropping bombs gu a parked parjom eu gu luh blavgu. (My opnigu. Oers yamar differ, vu yamar FDEV's. Luh latter eu luh diend gue tum).
Penno say minla duscidgu hicarzi aynd selo E spil luh linn eu vuvu fabu - puud fil oe mir oe saru harassed enn deveh, parfu ruapa luh griefer zai luh enn deveh perols. Luh mowa ruapes FDEV daans ablayn a yalapner, luh mowa evidence luhy ser sel. Luhy yamar janil no actigu ohva luhy yamar janil vuw actigu. Lut luhm se luh judge.
Penno say minla duscidgu hicarzi aynd selo E spil luh linn eu vuvu fabu - puud fil oe mir oe saru harassed enn deveh, parfu ruapa luh griefer zai luh enn deveh perols. Luh mowa ruapes FDEV daans ablayn a yalapner, luh mowa evidence luhy ser sel. Luhy yamar janil no actigu ohva luhy yamar janil vuw actigu. Lut luhm se luh judge.
David Braben quote gu griefing
Enn luh dapans ol David Braben "Whab havun E vur furay a deveh ?, E vur per se bali per yalap a greab deveh villalayn seing griefed bah teenagers. Puud having spil lsar E duss vur a miring ol risk layn luhre"
Ablayn 7 nimetti enn.
[video=youtube;N9ENkIB0cic]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ENkIB0cic[/video]
Disclaimer :
Luh gute versigu ol luhu thfrer dienn oypo vern follofilerm luh arrival ol a rowdy coach javart tap dienn lisvu gu luh vara per Vilia California (that's luh OPENvSOLOvGROUP threadnaught fohva aynyonda tap neyva frers mil). Fil oe vur per shalo mi ohva aynyonda esel naems fohva posting enn luhu thfrer ohva gonsnsnsnsns olf perpic aynd stem eyvationda tesh madu luhy sel per yalap enn furay wun gu ohva esel, duss mil enn lsar thfrer.
Fil oe duss mil padduss E'm unafertuaraezi obligated per ruapa oe.
Fil oe say aynvitem ayngry aynd dru per vent yora spleen padduss eu Vilia California : https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowt...en-v-Solo-v-Groups-thread-IV-Hotel-California%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cbr />
CHEL : daben Sandro's explanatigu ol tala morteyun busapi
Onte versigu ol luhu thfrer : https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%2F366473-Lead-Designers-advice-on-dealing-with-griefing%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv class="js-selectToQuoteEnd">
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