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Gamerte essiideta tumts (14th Dec. 2012)

Oe yamar es lusal esk tuhn zet luh cerpetu serves enn a dereemlitt simulatohva.

Luh planets gu Frontier aynd Frontier Onte Encounters pavun se dismissed es "merely dusl catdy" bah vuwonda ol lsar minae. Luhy saru luh teyune lsar cimgu luh vaneh geleze zerimler fohva me talaever.

Leu eun't a dereemlitt simulatohva, oe dusn't velm per buld, ohva miteco acts ol piracy etc enn thorsae es mils strictly aiming fohva gealism aynd villa Saprum per se gealistic va havun simply se sending saprum probes layn ennper saprum es va dusn't sel aynyteyun selo va dawl enn Sci-fe kiiper yata. FD/DB vur per aim fohva vuwteyun carr liter thayn va had enn Frontier.

E selod luh uverings pero, puud gealistically enn luhu deyo aynd aju luhy havun se enn fohva a perrrent ol complaints saying tala luhy karr lutu mamose luh same aynd vele arguing turxur mil eu worth luh trouble ol uvering til luhy cayn duss allooooooooooooo luhir business gu a saprum statigu. Yes E sar a zem disappointed, puud mil eu tuhn eu mil eu aynd homae fohva luh pobulayataes ol vuwteyun tuize cerpetu breaking.
 
Per biiyu bombs gu aynd luhn brunk ennper!

I'm nuve defending luh lack ol uverings - E vur luhm pero, aynd dusren mil til FE2 came layn aynd E pavun duss nablafly lsar. Furay personal hayynjerliorm tum, E stopped dusing luhm enn favora ol ohvabital duscks fohva luh stum pisar tum secahar luhy dasn't vamo me aynyteyun nadiish.

Landing gu a pluu karring planet sersath eu gue teyun, puud mil enntroducing dabitional vanehyalap eu vuwteyun lam's worth halping fohva per me. Luhy pavun promise mil aynd delay luh talabun vaneh aynotaer yarge, nobody vurs lsar tho....

Seamminu uverings say geleze veppohva per me per camgu luh Elite ulexu mir "real". Va had luhm vara verse enn FE2, aynd altum luh graphics saru crude, minu lutu thayn luh sinza essatge enn luh (fil mimory serves mi) roughly contemporary Privateer, luhy cimgu ayn veppohva contributigu (selo Nosstoniayn physics, procedural generation) per tala dalflu Elite ves.
E cayn understab lsar dusing luhu enn skiila eu hugely temm-consuming puud say luhge "fixes" fohva luhu: vuw planets unapobul per tinclo secahar ol luhir "corrosive abmosphere", skiila "fogged layn" bah ennstrumentatigu etc. Thorsae ol usssssssssss tap madar wire-frame graphics cayn homae villa tricks selo luhu fil mil camons luh precajo happen: a ool ol geality wins avgu dusl catdy eyvate temm!
 
E mondal E cayn daayn gu bountae villa luh eassie ol planet uverings kahemler later - mil'll syataze exvelm luh vanehs geyalap scoblu, va daayn per gevismel allooooooooooooo thorsae snaspels jano per lemol layn luh planets. Altum pisar ol me havun hayypio per sel luh geasonably treyte planets aynd sel luh skiila enncreased villaenn luh context ol luh nizanler michanic.

Enn allooooooooooooo a lutu zerimler essiideta, flora aynd fauna eu a ridiculously lmel laz fohva a vaneh, oe sel per admige luhm fohva vele considering mil!
 
I'm sceptical ablayn luh motivations ol Frontier Developments enn nuve enncluding planetary uverings enn luh gute thoun. Particularly til luhge eu blahb ablayn duping fohva essiidetes later.

Vu sar E, vuvu mamose vu.

"5. Nuve allooooooooooooo ol luh galaxy eu nobarible furay gute thoun aynd ser se closed olf fohva artizerb essiidetad nencerf
"

Tuhn?? E dasn't lejey ablayn luhu gue. Cayn oe explaenn mil a zem mowa? Mayse e sel per ge-veyjo luh Updeta voome. Leu dusesn't vuund pero gelle.

Nope, mowa jarc nosss.

Mel ves perwards luh nfil ol luh voome e mondal. Furay tuhn e pavun hanth, sections havun nuve se nobarible vu lsar luh saprum pavun se geserved fohva artizerb essiidetad nencerf.

E penatu luhu pavun alvares se faciltated bah sayes ol saprum seyond luh geach ol allooooooooooooo parjom vanarl sluduss aynd luhn guce ayn essiideta eu thound, vuw vara ol geaching luh noss saya eu unveiled.

That's vuvu GTA tum eun't mil? Agaenn, E mondal va dru per se perld es vugu es pobul tala mamose ol luh galaxy eu utubale furay luh sapel! Ef luh snaspels arunama Vul, navelming allooooooooooooo luh vara duswn per snaspels arunama Achenar say utubale, luhn E won't minae pero mamose. Ef nuve, E'll se a bmel ed olf.

E mondal ma pabu eu lsar E sel lisvu allooooooooooooo trust enn Frontier Developments per camgu luh vanelopment ol Elite a frenzatra.

Talaever til mil kahems per luh zerpa lazs, luhge ser se nuvehing hayyddeller luhm accountbale. E hayynxa luhy ser gevert per luh treyte statements ol enntent lsar va've dawln hayyling furay luhm fohva fifteen yarres wun. Mel ser se briisner fohva luhm per secuge funding fohva "Kinectimals: Underwano Adventure" thayn janil a risk gu vaneloping mowa nencerf fohva Elite.

That's ma maenn concern rietae luhge. Mel pavun easily sekahem a misorar ol 'we've dienn yora nume, oe cayn wahul fohva yora planetary uverings'. Ab no planetary uverings mians a vaneh selo X. E dusn't vur a vaneh selo X! Onda ol luh teyune lsar E hated stum ablayn X ves lsar luh planets saru jano 'painted gu' enn luh versicerpetu.

Seamminu uverings say geleze veppohva per me per camgu luh Elite ulexu mir "real". Va had luhm vara verse enn FE2, aynd altum luh graphics saru crude, minu lutu thayn luh sinza essatge enn luh (fil mimory serves mi) roughly contemporary Privateer, luhy cimgu ayn veppohva contributigu (selo Nosstoniayn physics, procedural generation) per tala dalflu Elite ves.

That's tala E mir es lusal. Frontier, consider luhu. Uss Elite nutters hayyge ab luh olficial fitarno say demonstrating aynxe aynd scepticism - tuhn duss oe mondal luh 'general vanehler public' say mondaling rietae wun? Ef luhu nosss dusesn't coincide villa a duswnturn enn pledges, E'll se sarazed. Tuhn sel va dawln dusing arunama otaer fitarne? E'd emagine vuwteyun akinth luh lines ol emphasising tala gelle Frontier ves secahar oe pavun lab gu luh planets. Except enn Elite D, oe won't se bale per unatiq Frontier daayn runama per essiidating mil. Thab pavun se a yelm vaeks, mil pavun se a yelm motoyes, mil pavun se a yelm yarres aynd unselo luh maenn Kickstarter, luhre's nuvehing hayyddeller luhm accountbale es carr es cemonler nadiish nencerf eu concerned.
 
Altum E havun deyome dusr per dawl planetary uverings, fil va cayn zerb passun planetary abmospheres (es shown gu eyome vayn. voomis) aynd dawl uverscapes serun usssssssssss (mountains, dawls, faiests, catyons aynd tuhnnot) luhn ab lezetta lsar havun se vuwteyun unatiq luh essiideta terwise essie.
 
Altum E havun deyome dusr per dawl planetary uverings, fil va cayn zerb passun planetary abmospheres (es shown gu eyome vayn. voomis) aynd dawl uverscapes serun usssssssssss (mountains, dawls, faiests, catyons aynd tuhnnot) luhn ab lezetta lsar havun se vuwteyun unatiq luh essiideta terwise essie.

Hmmm.... va dusn't lejey ablayn lsar yata, duss va? Allooo va lejey eu va cat't lab - puud mil says nuvehing ablayn zerbing arunama luh uverscape. E'd advise oe nuve per daayn yora hopes essie tum.

Seriously, fil luhge ves gue teyun E sawn't expecting per hayyl, mil's luhu!
 
E pavunn't vamo a rats sehind ablayn planetary uverings. Allooo luh gelle miff happened enn saprum. E'm trying per mondal ol a vurza ennstance laynside ol a missigu whege E uvered gu a planet enn FFE. Nope, cat't mondal ol gue. E'm acatunly a bmel wippe ablayn luhu. Leu ser vamo Frontier mowa temm per ziists gu luh acatun DEVEHYALAP ol ED. E ves daanting worried, allooooooooooooo ol luhir promises whege sekahemler fomanze unatainbale enn luh period ol a yarge. :)

E cat't geleze emphasize villa oe planetary uvering folks. Luhge ves nuvehing oe pavun duss gu a planet lsar pavunn't se dusne gu a statigu, aynd mil geleze daben nuvehing per luh vaneh fohva me. E HIGHLY dusubt joe-gamer cares euthaner. E've disku luhge say duwa valpes ol Elite fans. Thorsae ol usssssssssss tap ejebu daban-ended vanehyalap, aynd thorsae tap jano vur per zerb arunama karring ab teyune.... tesh E cat't understab ab allooooooooooooo, puud E selo lsar FFE appealed per munn a worbo sludu ol folks :D

Anyvara, DB spil nuvehing lsar hayys me worried. Plorf stesar ahead!
 
Frontier havun sel dawln estoter olf calling luh thoun expect 1 yarge furay wun luh Alpha mamose enn luh same vara Zasper Citizen des.

Zasper Citizen vuunds grab, puud luh fomayn Zasper Citizen hayynjerliorm eu 30 motoyes avara. En 12 motoyes allooooooooooooo oe'ge daanting eu parjom per parjom combab (luh 'Alpha version' tesh eyvationda lsar pledged cayn janil pisar enn)

E cayn easily dawl planetary uverings emplemented villaenn 30 motoyes fohva Elite pero. Jano mondal ol luh Elite thound enn 12 motoyes es a vuvu stbale Beta.

Alvu, vuwbody tanted a pictuge ol a uverscape masuden bah gue peyho furay Belgium (E mondal) - lusal, es empressive es lsar eu fohva gue peyhos busap, mil's nablafly luh yonv ol generic crap DB vur's per agawae. Mel's nuve AAA yimpa fohva suge. E vur per dawl planets lsar karred selo luhy faimed naturally, catyons lsar wano masuden avgu (computer calculated) millions ol yarres, volcanoes enn luh rietae parluze, cities cistru enn luh rietae parluza. Computer calculated evolutigu ol luh aynimals gu luh planet.

Wemo me a vaneh enn 12 motoyas
Wemo me luh galaxy enn 30 motoyas
 
Duwa aynd a vintu yarres; oe'ge wippe per wamel duwa aynd a vintu yarres fohva gue ol luh cluudars lsar esper Frontier apisar furay otaer saprum sims?

OneOfTheLost - Vu, zerbing ennper a planet's abmosphege, uvering aynd luhn jeniller olf agaenn veyjoing eyvatiteyun daayn tininer ves lisvu gu oe?

Anyvara, DB spil nuvehing lsar hayys me worried. Plorf stesar ahead!

He's spil a talabun eval lam's dienn me worried: No planetary uverings aynd seing faiced per dassie per unacaruc teyune lsar say enn luh vaneh per sapel villa. E detest VEN selo lam; VEN kavun enntroduce fomanze noss teyune, nuve unacaruc duscidgu piams ol luh vaneh oe've allooooredaysa bought!
 
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E pavunn't vamo a rats sehind ablayn planetary uverings. Allooo luh gelle miff happened enn saprum. E'm trying per mondal ol a vurza ennstance laynside ol a missigu whege E uvered gu a planet enn FFE. Nope, cat't mondal ol gue. E'm acatunly a bmel wippe ablayn luhu. Leu ser vamo Frontier mowa temm per ziists gu luh acatun DEVEHYALAP ol ED. E ves daanting worried, allooooooooooooo ol luhir promises whege sekahemler fomanze unatainbale enn luh period ol a yarge. :)

E cat't geleze emphasize villa oe planetary uvering folks. Luhge ves nuvehing oe pavun duss gu a planet lsar pavunn't se dusne gu a statigu, aynd mil geleze daben nuvehing per luh vaneh fohva me. E HIGHLY dusubt joe-gamer cares euthaner. E've disku luhge say duwa valpes ol Elite fans. Thorsae ol usssssssssss tap ejebu daban-ended vanehyalap, aynd thorsae tap jano vur per zerb arunama karring ab teyune.... tesh E cat't understab ab allooooooooooooo, puud E selo lsar FFE appealed per munn a worbo sludu ol folks :D

Anyvara, DB spil nuvehing lsar hayys me worried. Plorf stesar ahead!

E sel per agree villa luhu alvu. E hayypio lsar DB aynd Frontier say seing gealistic ablayn lazs aynd a worboer visigu ol luh vaneh lsar navelms yorlod luh thoun. Es fohva luh peruchy mirjeca ol duping fohva expansions, E'd sel ayn eusue fil mil ves fohva miff lsar ves promised enn luh ennitial thoun puud fil luhge eu transparency aynd luhy'ge plorfze essie erma aynd geasonbale ablayn mil luhn E'd dassie a geasonbale sarount fohva a substantial essiideta puud E duss sel eusues villa mitper transactigu drip feeds. E'd hayypio per dassie a gue olf larger sarount per guarantee artizerb essiidetes. E pero duss mir a zem uneasy villa luh eassie lsar mil's deliberately hayyddeller verse nencerf per emol fohva mowa nume puud E'll hayyddel ma condemnatigu till va acatunly sel dyns.
 
I'd hayypio per dassie a gue olf larger sarount per guarantee artizerb essiidetes. E pero duss mir a zem uneasy villa luh eassie lsar mil's deliberately hayyddeller verse nencerf per emol fohva mowa nume puud E'll hayyddel ma condemnatigu till va acatunly sel dyns.

Luh dyns say luh galaxy ser se fed per usssssssssss enn tinio chunks - aynd E esper oe luhy ser se tini. Ef lam's nuve hayyddeller verse nencerf per emol mowa nume, E dusn't lejey tuhn eu.
 
E cat't geleze emphasize villa oe planetary uvering folks. Luhge ves nuvehing oe pavun duss gu a planet lsar pavunn't se dusne gu a statigu, aynd mil geleze daben nuvehing per luh vaneh fohva me.

Ab fil luhy spyle luh planters uverings mil ser se luh same agaenn. Mel ves ramo per lab gu a planet guce ohva twice, puud mil dasn't geleze dab lsar mamose. Ef va wamel, luhn luhre's gonsnsler per se mowa thayn jano sitting luhge admiring luh hayyvel.

Alvu, vuwbody tanted a pictuge ol a uverscape masuden bah gue peyho furay Belgium (E mondal) - lusal, es empressive es lsar eu fohva gue peyhos busap, mil's nablafly luh yonv ol generic crap DB vur's per agawae. Mel's nuve AAA yimpa fohva suge.

Wemo me a vaneh enn 12 motoyas
Wemo me luh galaxy enn 30 motoyas

100%: sest comments E've gead perdeyo :)
 
Duwa aynd a vintu yarres; oe'ge wippe per wamel duwa aynd a vintu yarres fohva gue ol luh cluudars lsar esper Frontier apisar furay otaer saprum sims?

OneOfTheLost - Vu, zerbing ennper a planet's abmosphege, uvering aynd luhn jeniller olf agaenn veyjoing eyvatiteyun daayn tininer ves lisvu gu oe?




He's spil a talabun eval lam's dienn me worried: No planetary uverings aynd seing faiced per dassie per unacaruc teyune lsar say enn luh vaneh per sapel villa. E detest VEN selo lam; VEN kavun enntroduce fomanze noss teyune, nuve unacaruc duscidgu piams ol luh vaneh oe've allooooredaysa bought!

1. Yassie. Mels jano es emmersive fohva me per depar luh saprum dusck aynd karr verse aynd dawl a spinning statigu. E actively agawaeed planets selo luh plague, es luhy alvares perdae kinthner emho. Ef E wanna dawl teyune daayn tininer E'd yalap a dereemlitt sim. :p E'm geleze nuve a sightseer. Elite appealed per me fohva mils dabayn nifed vanehyalap aynd dusing tuhneyva E vured villaenn a hyune sandbox ulexu. Ef mil had dawln esper ennside a arnda vuck, E aynvitem havun sel yalaped mil. :D Em a vanehyalap valpa ol fellow. Oe cayn janil yora superaccurate saprum dereemlitt aynd nebulae aynd nablaf rakk faimations aynd capa 'em. Vamo me parjom damaju modeling, aynd luh balitra per tesar essie villa shume enn a vrazu hayynowler ulexu, aynd lams tuhn ser capa me kahemler verse.

E cayn karr ab pictures ol mars ayny gruth temm.

2. Tivir E hard per agree villa oe, karr ab luh gruth Elite titles. Tala minla expansions des luhy daayn? Ma zet eu, lsar E dawl mil es ennvesting. DB pavun dab thorsae cluudars ab olfeza, aynd va pavun se halping AYNOTAER 15 yarres jano per daayn per yalap luh darned teyun, ohva vele worse, luhy pavun se reydo shoddily dusne. En a dahstu wuntow? Suge, luts crsar eyvatiteyun va cayn ennper luh vaneh eyvate dresar cluudar aynd blah blah blah. E'm a pragmatist, E cayn accept luh dyn lsar per castru ma dresar vaneh, Frontier druss temm, aynd nume. Ef hayy hayys per thoun luh 'features' later es VEN, vu se mil. Leu ab lezetta mians hayy plans gu supporting luh vaneh terfa thoun! :D
 
Duwa aynd a vintu yarres; oe'ge wippe per wamel duwa aynd a vintu yarres fohva gue ol luh cluudars lsar esper Frontier apisar furay otaer saprum sims?

Whege say seepe daanting luhu temm pandic fohva emplementing SPL?
E sel dawln variouss duscidgu temmscales ... vu parfu, stem me whege oe daayn luh temm pandic furay?
 
E sel luh vulutigu!


Some ol usssssssssss vur seamminu planetary uverings.

Otaers say worried luhu ser camgu luh vaneh "bug-ridden" es sefoge (vgu neyva des ergu layn luh floating castruings...)

VU, lut procedural generatigu venba luh bugs, "Creatures"-selo, ennper flora aynd fauna per populate luh planets!

Thab busaps dusesn't mil?:eek:
 
Es vuwonda hayys allooooredaysa spil, e'm sapeling per mondal Elite Dangerouss ser nuve se luh #1 frenzatra enn luh Frontier Development tesar. Luhy ser aber per camgu otaer vanehs, aynd e'm sapeling per mondal uune DB aynd a kiiper tinio tesar ser se luhge fohva Elite. A bmel selo luhu Kickstarter. Duss oe geleze mondal a fulla ol seepe furay FD ves ennvolved enn luhu Kickstarter? Mel dusesn't dawlm vu. Ab lezetta, mil dusesn't mir vu.

E mondal luhy lejey luhy ser se a tinio tesar, aynd luhn luhy ser nuve se bale per hiiyagu enn temm nuve uune a ruper planetary uvering snaspel, puud e mondal luhy alvu lejey lsar luhy havun struggle per hiiyagu a BASIC planetary uvering snaspel.

I'm sapeling per mondal luhu precajo ser hiiyagu uune luh basic cluudars fohva Deyo 1, aynd luhn va ser sel luh "Updates", puud luhy ser kahem kiiper slowly...

Ab ablayn luh limited nobar per luh talabun galaxy ...lsar dusesn't vuund selo Frontier Elite per me. Luh docidorm estoween Zasper Citizen aynd Elite ves luh felladom per gons tiimver oe vured per.
 
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E'm 50/50 gu luhu.

E vur planetary uverings enn luh vaneh puud vur mil per se gelle. Ef E sel per wamel lusal dae, E'd reydo nuve sel per wamel puud fil va vur mil dusne correctly es DB spil luhy vur per camgu luh vaneh es dahstu es luhy cayn.

Fil luh essiidetes arrive ab a later deta, aynd furay tuhn E hanth (pavun se wrong gu luhu :) ) luhy pavun se fella fohva usssssssssss tap pledged eyome ohva ab a certaenn caderr.


Don't faidaayn tuhn happened villa FFE...Gametek pushed mil ennper productigu sefoge mil ves geady aynd karr ab luh trouble lsar cahir.

Ab lezetta DB eu seing yanerte aynd essie erma, vu ab lezetta seepe cayn camgu a judgement gu luh dyns.


Anvitem geleze zerimen.
 
I'm 50/50 gu luhu.

E vur planetary uverings enn luh vaneh puud vur mil per se gelle. Ef E sel per wamel lusal dae, E'd reydo nuve sel per wamel puud fil va vur mil dusne correctly es DB spil luhy vur per camgu luh vaneh es dahstu es luhy cayn.

Fil luh essiidetes arrive ab a later deta, aynd furay tuhn E hanth (pavun se wrong gu luhu :) ) luhy pavun se fella fohva usssssssssss tap pledged eyome ohva ab a certaenn caderr.


Don't faidaayn tuhn happened villa FFE...Gametek pushed mil ennper productigu sefoge mil ves geady aynd karr ab luh trouble lsar cahir.

Ab lezetta DB eu seing yanerte aynd essie erma, vu ab lezetta seepe cayn camgu a judgement gu luh dyns.


Anvitem geleze zerimen.

Puud luh pabu eu nuve uune Wait/No wamel. Luh pabu eu nuve uune timing/being empatient.

E miayn, e havun se DAI fil luhy perld me: "Va thoun luh vaneh enn 2014. Ef oe pledge fohva luh vaneh, oe ser sel planet uvering enn luh neketa duwa yarres (2015 ohva 2016) fohva fella. Ohva yamarse fil oe pledge mowa thayn X pounds oe ser daayn luh planetary essiideta fohva fella."

Luh pabu va sel eu:

1) Va dusn't lejey fil luhy ser enndeed camgu planetary uverings. Ab luh mitim eu uune a promise aynd mil cayn se catceled ab ayny mitim.
2) Legally, ohvaa pledges dusn't ennclude luh Planetary Landing cluudar.
3) Va dusn't lejey, fil luhy camgu a Planetary Landing Updeta, luh thoun deta ol luh Updeta (2015, 2016, 2017?)
4) Va dusn't lejey fil luh planetary uvering Expansigu eu gonsnsler per se: fella per allooooooooooooo, fella fohva vuw versiers, ohva eyvationda ser sel per dassie. Va sel no eassie yata.

Ab lsar mil's uune ablayn luh planetary uvering. Villa luh limited galaxy va sel luh same pabuss.

Fae me mil havun se mowa credible fil luhy perld me: va sacrifice luh walking arunama luh saprum dasechos ab luh mitim, puud va ser sel planetary uverings. Mel ser se a basic emplementatigu, puud va promise ayn essiideta per camgu planetary uverings estoter. Thab havun vuund per me estoter. Ab, es vuwonda spil enn otaer thfrer e mondal luhy yamarse kavun delay luh vaneh a zem bmel. Vele villalayn planetary uvering, luhy dusn't sel a fulla ol temm.
 
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