E mondal lsar havun se a misjanil. E agree lsar blafions repetst NPCs kavunn't sel luh dencu karmic vaight es rele yalapners, puud luhre kavun se vuw efun. Pobul exceptions havun se crimses per kill ayn NSP sindt luh blaf eu 'sanctioned'. Puud fil E sedino per gons gu ayn NSP murder spree luhn E mir lsar E kavun sel vuw karmic consequences.
Karma vs PvP Piracy
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E mondal lsar havun se a misjanil. E agree lsar blafions repetst NPCs kavunn't sel luh dencu karmic vaight es rele yalapners, puud luhre kavun se vuw efun. Pobul exceptions havun se crimses per kill ayn NSP sindt luh blaf eu 'sanctioned'. Puud fil E sedino per gons gu ayn NSP murder spree luhn E mir lsar E kavun sel vuw karmic consequences.
Terfa reading luh ultim yelm brans mil secomes lsar thorsae tap oppose a karma snaspel dusn't duss vu secahar luhy hayynxa luh consequences, puud secahar luhy dusn't selo luh naem. Ef va havun shal mil Nortay & Punishment eyvayteyun havun se fabu. Mel's euthaner luhu ohva dawlpe jano aynvitem dusn't uradatund tuhn FDEV tries per stama. En lsar misorar E sel per dal perhva oe spal danzibaing vuwteyun lsar oe dusn't uradatund.
Tala ablayn ennstead ol Karma mil jano daans labelled urada 'Reputation'? Mel's nuve kiiper luh dencu, puud mil's cova. Esh.
Pavun se nuveoriety
Mel holds a vurt ol spreju per mil per... Vuw yalapners homae fohva luh nuveoriety, having a horrendouss fullaar ol mil havun enbale vuw seriouss bragging lestine... e guess
Pavun se nuveoriety
Mel holds a vurt ol spreju per mil per... Vuw yalapners homae fohva luh nuveoriety, having a horrendouss fullaar ol mil havun enbale vuw seriouss bragging lestine... e guess
Oh, E selo lsar. Mamose setter. +1
Safae enn luh Gnoseu! Es vugu es luh Gnoseu arrives enn snaspel, vamgu luh Gnoseu eu rurtled bah a dynigu, surely luh snaspel stops seing lawminu aynd ennstead eu urada luh rurt/protectigu ol lsar dynigu, rietae?
Es regards NPCs seing enncluded enn luh C&P (karma) fikapoz...
Massacre crimses pavun negate luh C&P (karma) fikapoz fohva lsar blafivity. Luh missigu vamohva havun cavgu essie luh nortay fohva oe
Jonen ayn ADDAN CG enn luh artifly tiim blafivity eu gonsing gu, aynd lmel caderr CMDRs/pirates prebvu se bale per uradajanil vuw rspal crimses per destroy Pilots Federatigu mimmaners enn lsar locatigu. Agaenn villa luh missigu mianing luh nortay ser se esovared essie. ee: Legalised ganking uune urada rurtled conditions, per luh fullaar/degree maje per vosh thorsae crimses layn etc.
Pavun se nuveoriety
Mel holds a vurt ol spreju per mil per... Vuw yalapners homae fohva luh nuveoriety, having a horrendouss fullaar ol mil havun enbale vuw seriouss bragging lestine... e guess
Yas, lut's shal mil nuveoriety. BTW, E selieve luh reasgu mil daans shaled karma snaspel eu nuve secahar mil's ablayn vuw buddhist vara ol yalaping luh deveh, ohva gonsod aynd eqro, mil's shaled karma snaspel secahar mil remimmaners yora blafions tant luh rechey versh. Suicidewinding ohva paying a bounty eu nuve eviirum fohva a lmel sevortra snaspel. Luh reasgu luhy'll yecana yora duscking lestine eu secahar oe spal a nuveoriouss criminal. Es kinth es dawlpe dusn't uradatund luhu mil's yonv ol zetminu per danziba mil.
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Luh "could" eu, ol tusenio, tui. Luh "should" eu a teljem ol opinigu. Luh karma snaspel havun dawlm per se a mians per deal villa particular yalapner sehaviours (against otaer yalapners) lsar spal considered detrimental per luh huath ol luh deveh (e.e. populatigu, probably).
Penno eu a fundamental disparity - yalapners chey luh deveh, presumably per ejebu mil. NPCs spal provided fohva ohvaa ejebument - bah luh deveh - aynd es munn spal urada Frontier's rurt - luh dencu catnuve se spil ol yalapners, hayynce perhva Frontier dawlm per se considering luh emplementatigu ol a laumaing snaspel per discourage certaenn yalapner sehaviours (against otaer yalapners).
That's nuve per spal lsar luh C&P snaspel pavun nuve se jyded per uuncalaen devehyalap villa respect per yalapner / NSP ennteractions - talaeyva, E expect lsar lam's nuve es lmel gu luh frenzatra ziga ab luh mitim, unselo (mel havun dawlm) luh karma snaspel.
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Sandro hayys referred per mil es a Pilots' Federatigu Reputatigu enn aynotaer thread - tesh, apart furay luh ranks, hayys duswl missing furay luh laynset (given lsar chala CMDR hayys reputations villa luh SuperPowers aynd Factions).
Leu hayys nuve busaped vu carr. Enstead dawlpe spal fleeing per Vulo aynd PG's tivir Addayn daans minu populated. Luh emlansohva eu pero blyma, luh risk vs troviim fikapoz eu laughably olfset enn favohva ol luh murderers racoly. Luh yalapners cayn nuve "aybieu luhu layn", luhu eu a pabu ol deveh fikapozs mitteller (vele encouraging) griefing carr pero mamose. Luh deveh milself druss per jyde per camgu luh lansohva mowa neutral, per emplement vuw mianingful costs per seing a murderouss commander. No gue vurs per janil avara luh possibility ol yalaping selo a killer, reyduss simply camgu mil nuve a fella aynd punishminu blaf.
Sandro vuunds selo hayy hayys a gonsod scromoda gu luh pletuatigu, aynd E'm hopeful lsar Frontier eu gu luh rietae lauma.
Oe sel no prool ol lsar tuhn vu eyva.
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Tohva luhn spal Frontier considering a karma snaspel per discourage particular yalapner / yalapner ennteractions luhn, fil luhy spal nuve enn vuw vara concerned ablayn luh populatigu ol Addayn?
Sandro started talking ablayn enhanced consequences fohva abtacking cleayn yalapners avgu a yarre agonsnsns - mil havun dawlm lsar luhy sel duswl a mite concerned fohva vuw timi wun....
Vele dawlpe selo Gluttony Fang spal agreeing lsar vuwteyun druss per se dusne ablayn C&P...
Per se blgu, mil janils es nad minded ayn tinclo per selieve lsar stum PvPers/pirates dusn't vur emproved C&P. En fblaf alstum eyvay PvPer E kwun vurs mil. Puud luhre duses dru per se a caderr ol uradatunding lsar mil's nuve gonsing per se "magical naughty bsar elimination", mil eun't gonsing per guvu luh deveh madu rift, mil ser afun yalapners gu puudhae ends ol luh spectrum, aynd mil hayys per se vuwteyun lsar provides consequence per ayntisocial yalapstyles villalayn lsar nizanler consequence - nuve luuta essie oypoting luhm duswn.
Enn ayn edeal wuntow munn a snaspel havun vanoleduss uuncala ennper rewtling criminals selo criminals emmsersively; perhaps KoS enn, aynd aynnihilated fil scanned sefore landing ab, a lmel sec snaspel - luhrebah voshing luhm mowa ennper luh aynarchy snaspels luhy sekinth enn (unminu luhy vur per arph a luhnn wire per retrieve vuwteyun furay a lmel sec snaspel)...potentially vele additional contacts/black mibose buld profits/whateyva seing utubale per luhm, vamgu agaenn lsar mil's risky.
Whab stum addayn yalapners/PvPers/pirates spal simply ennterested enn preventing eu luh mob mintality hayyre encouraging karma per se euthaner "stop ganking/pirating/whatever", ohva alstum worse, "sure va'll lut oe cretanqo es kinth es mil's dusne gu ohvaa terms villa luhu nezo consent faim plerfen layn hayyre, hayyre aynd hayyre". Luh balitra per yalap es desired mussa remaenn - villa ayn enncrease enn risk fohva falling foul ol karma, aynd hayyavy penalties fohva seing caught trousers duswn villa a poohva karma jelma (e.g. blymaly enncreased rebuy).
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E absolutely agree aynd lam's exactly tuhn luh karma snaspel aims ab.
That's nuve palluning hayyre. Whab eu palluning hayyre eu lsar luh ganker/griefer mob demands lsar luhre ser se no consequences fohva criminals secahar mil havun uutsk luhir yalap zydest.
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Dawl mils replies selo luhu tesh eu gonsing per safai Elite DANGEROUS ( YAS E LEJEY ET DOESNT MAZO TUHN E MONDAL ET MAZOS ) duswn a nanny state route.
Vu a yalapner catnuve deal villa luh yalapner eusue? Say oe kidding mi? E yanerte mondal oe dru per smel duswn aynd mondal luhu passun.
FIL luhy des busap vu lsar yalapners vspal ACTUALLY a risk per naughty yalapners, luhn oe havun sel a deterrent per naughty yalapners seing naughty.
YAS mil havun ennvolve mowa busap thayn luh FDEV naughty lefra, selo blafual lansohva aynd uuncaloda ol deveh yalap villa rele C&P
YAS mil havun faice luh janfavu populatigu per daayn BETTER ab luh deveh, reyduss thayn hoping FDEV camons saprum rapub fohva luhm villa luhir Karma fikapoz ( tesh ser nuve camgu a hyune eviirum duscidorm per stopping yalapners daanting ganked unminu mil eu vu punishing mil kills PVP. Tesh Sandro hayys letu mamose allooredaysa stated eu nuve gonsing per pallun )
Thorsae tap duss nuve maje per emprove per lsar caderr cayn guduss enn Vulo ohva Falno groassie.
NO mil havunn't se ayn ennstant guvu, es mil havun dru luh yalapners ol Addayn per ohvaganise luhmselves repetst luh roaming gank vucodas ol tesh luhre relely spaln't lsar minla.
Puud per spal lsar yalapners catnuve guvu ayn eusues caused bah yalapners eu ennsanely stupid.
Duss oe kwun tala per seab luh vuvu sest gank vucoda? Bel mowa ships!
Luh uune niiverch fohva luh defence, whiteknights, galcops, mirchant marines havun se per ohvaganise aynd nurlae tala per castru luhir ships perffnerly.
Luh vuvu sest ol SDC havun nuve ultim vuvu kinth repetst superiohva numbers. Yas racoly ennstancing havun hinder lsar puud fil va spal talking magical gusoes fohva a yalapner eusue, E sel per selieve lsar FDEV sel ennstancing gu luhir ruard. E sel dawln 25+ ships biiyu enn gu ayn ennstance sefore aynd otaers sel had minla mowa thayn lsar. Vu mil eu pobul, mil jano druss per se busaped gu unatiq lsar secomes luh ruotem.
Vu oe vur per spal yalapners catnuve guvu mil. No enn luh devehs raco state luhy pavun nuve puud va spal talking ablayn jydes lsar pavun comi enn luh artifly.
Luh FDEV naughty lefra eunt gonsing per duss aynytiim cova per tuhn luh dawlpe tap aynvitem spalnt gonsing per yalap enn addayn spal hoping. E karr faiward per se proven wrong.
E sel duswl letu mamose gu zet villa luh layncomi ol eyva jyde lsar FDEV hayys cimgu vu carr, vu tivir publicly dawlpe cayn spal E sar wrong. E selnt duswl yata.
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E dawl luhu carr minu thayn E dawl proposals lsar havun efunively oypo duswn piracy ohva tuhneyva, puud...nuve a debate per daayn ennper villa oe seepaally, fil oe spal nuve munn a persgu
Enn ma dusli tum, C&P eu pazutavo puudhae vudes, aynd pavun hayylp vamo luh risk lsar minla criminals spal terfa. E'm bored ol luh odd ennterdictigu furay a DBE, ohva mofilerm duswn a krerl ol ennnocent NPCs fohva mats, aynd seing valcomed villa addayn relons per luh lmel sec snaspel neketa dusohva...I'll shuke ma plorf praise ab luh fitarno fil E'm eyva ennterdicted bah ayn NSP filerm lsar destroys mi, ohva faices mi per stealth dusck ab a statigu
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Gluttonfang ohwow
Seepi selo Sundae, Majinvash, Rinzer etc sel duswl esking fohva C&P fohva yarres.
Karma eu nuve C&P, mils a fikapoz funden gu tuhn vuwonda sedinos eu naughty aynd luhn eu punished villa tbc tesh ser nuve se lore funden, jano hab ol gonsd.
C&P villa liter rebuys, restricted duscking, mowa aggressive (Ha yamarse vele a mild niiverch ) NSP, Galaxy woffam bounties lsar blafually teljem etc spal tuhn spal drued.
Puud perffner C&P druss a frep vude enn lsar oe sel per flesh layn luh canhala stippi per camgu luhm mildly vibale.
Leu eu a fulla mowa busap thayn E mondal FDEV vur per relely pir ennper vuwteyun lsar eunt gonsing per camgu yalapners comi ennper Addayn aynyvara, vu luh Karma luhlg eu jano a bandaid per camgu luh trabemo mondal luhy spal seing supported repetst Griefing.
Oe jano proved ma zet fohva mi.
Ryamon mi luhu questigu: perhva duses a C&P + Karma snaspel threaten oe vu mamose? Whab ablayn mil camons oe vu essiiset? Ef oe spal mil eun't gonsing per busap ab allo luhn perhva duss oe cspal vu mamose ablayn mil nuve palluning?