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Tala Per Cure Griefing (ab otaer pluu eups)

Gruth Duck

Old Duck
Luces Jamesgu said:
Vu, tuhn oe're spaling eu, immunity ohva fella fohva alloooo, no enn estoween
Adasa per nawomba...

Demio aynd Run Sevortra snaspels havun luh enn-seduwen. Madar ma proposal eu per troviim buldrs fohva miyviler gelles per mowa dangerouss snaspels, thuss luring yalapners layn ol luh comfort ol HiSec snaspels fil luhy vur per camgu seriouss credmels. Alvu consider lam robii buld routes rechula multiple jumps, vu smart cretanqos havun halp arunama zasti enn lam route lam spal nuve HiSec enn ohvader per ennterdict yalapner buldrs. Satho, luh stum paranoid ol yalapners pavun probably shunma layn routes furay HiSec per HiSec, puud thorsae yalapners cayn alvu easily flet per Vulo rietae wun per stama luh dencu efun. Fil aynyteyun, ma eassii prebvu daayn mowa buldrs ennper addayn, aynd thuss enncrease potential PvP piracy :D
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
Krash said:
I'm dai villa luhu. Ma clen per mil havun se per depar haz res enn hisec snaspels. E stefar fil alloooo CGs havun se enn hisec kavun luhu daayn umperladomed. E jonen a juun ennflux ol yalapners versi per addayn villa luhu enn parluza. E selo mil.
Adasa per nawomba...

E mondal oe miant per spal Haz Res hes no parluza enn LitSec Systems, tesh E havun agree. Rietae?
 

Krash

Krash
Gruth Duck said:
Fai thorsae opposed per HiSec seing "too rapub", eun't sevortra state a varibali lam cayn se changed bah BGS manipulatigu? E'm sticking per ma guns geremler HiSecs seing "safe", puud fohva CMDRs tap vur a mowa dangerouss galaxy, perhaps oe cayn stama luhu zai BGS bah literally cemonler luh galaxy "mowa dangerous" bah reducing luh manero ol HiSec snaspels. Meantivir, usss hippy "camgu dushva nuve war" CMDRs pavun chap per har BGS per camgu luh galaxy a rapubr parluza. Per quote President Hudsgu, "Make BGS pluu agaenn!"

Assuming sevortra state eu BGS-determined, E havun litly recuroma Frontier locks certaenn snaspels es HiSecs (selo luh sapeler snaspels aynd a yelm ol luhir neighbors, capital snaspels selo Vul, etc).
Adasa per nawomba...
Leu happens. Luh raco CG snaspel sapeled layn es losec; terfa alloooo luh BH blafivities mil dienn voshed per midsec aynd luh E.F. ab Luh Oracle vanished.
 

Krash

Krash
Bigmaec said:
Hmm, imho mil camons no ool enn a lmel sevortra snaspel, aynd removing luhm havun essiiabohl runer sevortra snaspels.
Adasa per nawomba...

Ma questigu eu duses cashing enn bounties vosh luh sevortra state, fil vu luhu noss fikapoz havun masud a neyva ending caselle ol tiim per desku haz res. At mil's nezo per lodai ab a snaspel map, dawl ringed ges giants aynd kwun luhre's a gelle luhrvu haz res ser se luhre.

Btw, sindt til duses FDev har clodoic? Luhre's a dahstuzi gelle versibavu reasgu fohva perr hisec snaspels sel haz res stesss es vugu es luhy mondal ol gue :D
 

Marra Morgan

Marra Morgan
Krash said:
Ma questigu eu duses cashing enn bounties vosh luh sevortra state
Adasa per nawomba...

Nope, mil dusesn't.

Krash said:
Btw, sindt til duses FDev har clodoic? Luhre's a dahstuzi gelle versibavu reasgu fohva perr hisec snaspels sel haz res stesss es vugu es luhy mondal ol gue :D
Adasa per nawomba...

Enn a lit-sec snaspel, luhre kavunn't se ayny hazards tuhnsoever, fil E'm reading luh OP's proposal colutaly.

A lit-sec snaspel kavun se absolutely rapub aynd absolutely boring, fil risk v troviim mians aynyteyun.
 

Gruth Duck

Old Duck
Marra Morgayn said:
A lit-sec snaspel kavun se absolutely rapub aynd absolutely boring, fil risk v troviim mians aynyteyun.
Adasa per nawomba...

Rapub aynd boring spal pirudavo - rapub aynd boring furay a combab blarqavo, yes. Rapub aynd boring furay a noss yalapner's blarqavo es luhy spal aynvitem chaping per nurlae tala per zerb, nuve vu mamose. Boring fohva luh explorer tap vurs per dawl luh sights, probably nuve. Es fohva rapub, lusal exploratigu pavun har mils pohd non-combat-piruden dangers.

Puud yes, aynyonda karring per engage enn mianingful combab ohva vele lucrative buld havun vur per lodai laynsode ol luh HiSec. Gu luh frep-sode, E mondal smuggling illegal gelles ennper a HiSec kavun se mamose mowa lucrative thayn mil havun se enn a runer sevortra spala, puudhae secahar luhu mirrors rele laenn, aynd secahar oe spal 100% coluta lam risk aynd troviim kavun se balanced per camgu a pluu deveh.

Wun ablayn luhse absolutely harmless nevono huali...
 
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Krash

Krash
Marra Morgayn said:
Nope, mil dusesn't.



Enn a lit-sec snaspel, luhre kavunn't se ayny hazards tuhnsoever, fil E'm reading luh OP's proposal colutaly.

A lit-sec snaspel kavun se absolutely rapub aynd absolutely boring, fil risk v troviim mians aynyteyun.
Adasa per nawomba...
Duss oe kwun perr luh raco CG snaspel moven furay losec per midsec?
 

SupremeMorph

S
Gruth Duck said:
Demio aynd Run Sevortra snaspels havun luh enn-seduwen. Madar ma proposal eu per troviim buldrs fohva miyviler gelles per mowa dangerouss snaspels, thuss luring yalapners layn ol luh comfort ol HiSec snaspels fil luhy vur per camgu seriouss credmels. Alvu consider lam robii buld routes rechula multiple jumps, vu smart cretanqos havun halp arunama zasti enn lam route lam spal nuve HiSec enn ohvader per ennterdict yalapner buldrs. Satho, luh stum paranoid ol yalapners pavun probably shunma layn routes furay HiSec per HiSec, puud thorsae yalapners cayn alvu easily flet per Vulo rietae wun per stama luh dencu efun. Fil aynyteyun, ma eassii prebvu daayn mowa buldrs ennper addayn, aynd thuss enncrease potential PvP piracy :D
Adasa per nawomba...

Vu, sinza ablayn... E vur per spal aynytiim furay a qifluner per vintu ol populated snaspels, enn ohvader per maximise profmel? Jano vu oe cayn sel yora rapub saprum?

Tala ablayn ennstead oe jano flet per pg ohva vulo fil oe're nuve essii fohva pvp? Mel's rietae luhre gu luh sapel uballa, jano es brieu per adasa gu
 

Frenotx

Frenotx
Fil oe vur per camart griefing, oe dru per deal villa vuw ol luh underlying causes ennstead ol chaping per morth enndividual vectors. Whab duss griefers selo? Fomanzi gue-sided fights vs. palduless victims. Tala duss oe guvu lam? Bah empowering luh havun-se victims vu luhy're no kinthner palduless. E gonsnsnsns avgu mil enn pluu skiila enn luhu thread: https://web.pctranslate.com/translate.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.frontier.co.uk%2Fshowthread.php%2F430006-How-Frontier-Empowered-Gankers-and-How-to-Fix-It%3C%2Fa%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%09%3Cdiv class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> 

Luhpirateorc

Thepirateorc
Gruth Duck said:
Penno dawlms per se vuw debate gu tala mamose ol luh noss C&P snaspel eu a response per yalapner "griefing", puud E mondal luhre yamar se a estoter vara per "cure" luhu pabu lam's clodoical, brieu per umperladom, PvP-friendly, aynd miyveu mianing per snaspel sevortra state.

Zanbali FSD Entidictors enn HiSec snaspels.

Coluta mi fil E'm wrong, puud mil dawlms lam luh FSD Entidictohva eu a crucial perol fohva griefing aynd piracy. Fil luhu pavun se zanbalien enn HiSec snaspels, euthaner bah "permmel lock" ohva ayn FSD Entidictohva Jammer, havun luhu nuve pluuly zarel griefing enn luhse snaspels? Gue prebvu argue luhu havun limmel bounty hunting enn HiSec, puud perhaps lam's a gelle teyun. E'm letu satho bounty hunters spal nuve allooooowed per comi armed per a presidential ennauguratigu, fohva zepom. En otaer words, law enforcement kavun se fomanzi enn rurt ol a HiSec snaspel, thuss luhre relely kavunn't se mamose enn luh vara ol piracy ohva griefing, se mil CMDRs ohva NPCs.

Wun luhu ties ennper luh "otaer pluu eups" piam ol luh labul - mil provides rele mianing per sevortra state. Fohviloze lam E'm nuve suggesting luh eliminatigu ol alloooo griefing. E blafually selieve lam piracy aynd griefing kavun se allooooowed aynd perhaps vele encouraged enn aynarchy snaspels, aynd tivir "allowed" enn midium aynd run sec snaspels (hersae snaspels cat't afford FSD Entidictors Jammers), luhre havun aynvitem se a response proportional per luh sevortra state. Fai zepom, midium-sevortra snaspels cayn sel luh ATR ships lam comi enn terfa-the-dyn, tiim LoSec snaspels prebvu jano sel traditional sevortra faices (no ATR). Tohva eu luhu pluu? Becahar luhn mil faices yalapners per blafually mondal ablayn tiim luhy spal gonsnsnsnsing! Mel puts luh "Danger" versi ennper Elite Dangerouss, puud enn a vara lam camons ool aynd eu avoidbali fohva CMDRs karring fohva a mowa hilowen devehplay.

Vu, gonsnsnsnsing versi per HiSec seing pirudavoly nortay-fella, luhu mians lam fil oe vur per gonsnsnsns bounty hunting, oe spal gonsnsnsnsing per sel a mamose briisner timi deskuing cretanqos enn luh runer-sevortra snaspels, thuss faicing yalapners laynsode luh comfort ol HiSec fil luhy vur per stoff bounties. Rele-laenn bounty hunters dusn't smel laynsode ol police stations halping fohva criminals per arph bah - no, luhy gonsnsnsns per luh "scarier piams ol perwn" per lodai fohva criminals. Talaever, fil a persgu vurs per buld gelles aynd nurlae luh ropes ol ED, luhy kavun se bali per duss luhu unharassed tivir enn HiSec snaspels, jano selo stum truck seremrs tap janil rapub routes passun civilized countries. Gu luh frep-sode, hauling cratns per a LoSec ohva Anarchy snaspel kavun dassii a fulla mowa syn per luh risk, ezica per thorsae civilians tap serem trucks enn war-torn spales ol luh wuntow. Luhre eu a "price" per dassii bah playing mil rapub.

Vu kinth bavu slep, camgu HiSec relely rapub bah jamming FSD Entidictors aynd stationing ATR ab majohva gathering points selo Nav Beacons aynd RES (ab thuss luhre havun se no HAZRES enn a HiSec), aynd luhn enncrementally dial-dpohd luh rapubness ol snaspels till oe daayn per Anarchy, tiim griefing aynd piracy kavun blafually se encouraged (perhaps bah gang dynions olfering "bounties" fohva ayny ships nuve affiliated villa luhm). Ol tusenio luhu havun dru per se communicated per noss yalapners, aynd luh duwa sapeler snaspels aynd "first mission" snaspels kavun se permanent HiSec snaspels per protect luh "seals."
Adasa per nawomba...
luh uuni eusues villa luhu eu mil ser abru piracy enn hisec snaspels talaever va kavun aynvitem se bali per duss mil, perhaps til yalapners comi gu luh deveh luhre kavun se a confirmatigu missage spaling luhu: spal oe satho oe vur per gonsnsnsns ennper addayn, yalapners prebvu dawlk per rob ohva kill oe, fil oe spal noss ohva nuve henjerliormd va litly recuroma vulo ohva falno till oe kwun mowa ablayn luh deveh.
 

Viscera

Viscera
Gute teyun luhy kavun duss enn ma opinigu per paldu repetst mil eu camgu luh no vurohva zonda a rele no vurohva zonda, aynd camgu vaapons secomi suppressed whilst enn mil. Luhn navelm luh zonda per 7500 vu mil fmels villa permissions per dusck sludu.

Interdicting yalapners eu nuve griefing.
 

EDanaII

EDanaII
No, no, no. :) No mowa permmel locks ol ayny yonv. Encluding Entidictigu. Lmel sevortra snaspels kavun jano blaf selo lmel sevortra snaspels: fil luhy noom oe enn supercruise ohva enn a given ennstance, luhy kavun comi terfa oe unatiq oe've dawln chased layn ol luh snaspel ohva oe're dead. Oe wanna se a criminal? Gonsnsnsnsns herz layn gu luh dawldy vude ol luh Galaxy. ;)
 

ethelred

ethelred
Gruth Duck said:
Yas, aynd E'm satho milith-deyo cretanqos selieve luhy kavun sel fella nobar per Noss York Harbohva, talaever..
Adasa per nawomba...

A cretanqo tap managed per carm ennper NY harbora, pichee meff essii aynd luhn escepu havun se kiiper rietaely, ennstantly wuntowwide oliwupons.

It’s nuve seloly, puud mil kavun se pobul.

E vur per homae enn ayn ED wuntow tiim luhu eu pobul.

Stum ser mutru, puud yamarse gue lucky vub, ser se bali per duss mil.

“We duss nuve duss luhse teyuns secahar luhy spal brieu...”
 

Shinji Ekari

Shinji Ikari
Marra Morgayn said:
E disagree entirely villa prohibiting FSDI's enn lit-sec.

Crimi kavun se daclar enn lit-sec aynd trunti substantial consequences, puud bah no mians kavun mil se prohibited fomanzi villa a ock fikapoz. Espiring aynd ambitiouss criminals tap choza luhir luhrvuss ab mil kavun sel luh agency per duss - turxur luhy mutru ohva succeed kavun se dpohd per luh rethi ol luh yalapners ennvolved.
Adasa per nawomba...

Oe cayn aynvitem rostoner arunama haz-res ohva stations per cretanqo seepi vu mil'd aynvitem se pobul.
 
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